Long live Wales. Our Celtic brothers deserve attention. Ireland loves you. 🇮🇪🤝🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

I'm from Wrexham, it's a friendly, colourful town actually decimated by Westminster and corrupt councils continuously from the 1980s until today. This is not a majority Welsh-speaking town, so if this is happening in Wrexham, I can only imagine the sentiment further west.

Brilliant documentary. So glad that media outside the UK is even aware of the disparities within the UK, it is very much ignored within UK media

@Chequr_Prostate

Жыл бұрын

The poorest communities are in England. The common theme between all the poorest communities is they are governed by socialists.

@pronumeral1446

Жыл бұрын

Well UK media is mostly controlled by English people who live in England and want the UK to remain unitary and dominated by English people.

@isengard1500

Жыл бұрын

@@pronumeral1446 How about you critic people based on their policies instead of their race?

@sharondowney1725

Жыл бұрын

Well said Ben.i lived in North Wales for 20yrs in Ruabon. I was treated like there own .if it wasnt for me being ill i would syill be there.i wish you well for Independent. 🤘🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿x

@stiofain88

Жыл бұрын

​@@Chequr_Prostate Actually this isn't the case. West Wales is technically the poorest region in Northern Europe. That's why everyone leaves it.

❤ Yma o hyd, yn wir! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

I started learning Welsh during covid, I’m not even Welsh but it’s a wonderful language!

@thebarryhorns

Жыл бұрын

You sir are a legend

@gwynevans6440

Жыл бұрын

Da Iawn but, x

@cuuurlyfries5246

Жыл бұрын

I’m Welsh, and I don’t know a single word of the Welsh language. Can’t make the “kch” sounds properly and lack the accent, but it’s cool to have a rare language.

@jthomas7105

Жыл бұрын

@@cuuurlyfries5246 It's just practice.

@huwinio5973

Жыл бұрын

Diolch am dysgu ein iaith ♥️

I hope the Welsh find their strength and regain their independence. Love from the Netherlands.

Best of Luck to the welsh from Australia!!

As someone whose family is a mixture of Welsh, Cornish, Scottish, Scouse and Australian I really do hope that I will live to see the day when the Celtic nations (and Merseyside) become independent nations.

I'm English living in Pembrokeshire 0ast 16 years and I'm all for welsh independence

@Game_Hero

Жыл бұрын

a just amongst the livings, you're doing the right thing and it take courages to do so.

The English think exactly the same way. Our government sucks.

Brilliant u hav my full support 👍💯🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

My Welsh grandfather moved to South Africa and I remember as a kid him speaking the language. I have deep regret of no being able to learn the language of my ancestors, but I am glad to see that it is coming back to life in the place my forefathers are from.

@SuaveWelshy

Жыл бұрын

I recommend getting on Duolingo to learn some basic welsh

@D_Marrenalv

Жыл бұрын

Start learning your language...a little at a time, but learn it.

@LeafHuntress

Жыл бұрын

I'm Dutch, no connection with Wales whatsoever, yet i've started learning the language. There are many online sources, like SaySomethingInWelsh & duolingo.

@user-vj7gp3ip9j

Жыл бұрын

They speak it in Patagonia but that's in S America

@xr2kid

Жыл бұрын

I learned my people's language you can still learn Welsh ! Don't let the empire win!

Thank you abc, I’m sitting here with tears in my eyes. My little country has been trodden on for years and it’s about time we fought back and gained our independence

@crusader8626

Жыл бұрын

As much as I want independence for us aswell, i genuinly don't think much would change if the Welsh government was in charge

@gwynevans6440

Жыл бұрын

@@crusader8626 over a hundred countries declared their independance rom a European nation, sixty of them from Britain. I would imagine none of those countries' citizens would describe their governments as "perfect", but precisely zero of them have come back and asked to be run by Westminster again.

@crusader8626

Жыл бұрын

@@gwynevans6440 I honestly don't think we have enough industry to support us if we went on our own.

@aishalotter9995

Жыл бұрын

How about a ban on English only schools ? Make the Welsh language (Cymraeg) a priority, they forced a language on us with beatings , the pen is mightier than the sword , sign it into legislation, If somebody doesn’t like it they can move out !!! I’m not saying don’t teach English just no English only schools, a generation and it would be normalised , only non Welsh speakers would be up in arms about it , and it’s been proven that being bi-lingual helps with maths and other subjects !!! I can’t see it happening but you never can tell !!! Diolch am Ddarllen !!!

@treidchimney

Жыл бұрын

don't waste your energy on tears :/ never going to happen ..just a distraction

Superb programme. Well done to Nick Dole and ABC for making such a sensitive and insightful documentary that did not resort to tired old cliches that we often seen from broadcasters within the UK when covering Wales and Welsh issues.

@Game_Hero

Жыл бұрын

they are english broadcasters, what's so shocking? They go for their interests, their english empire made by and for England.

As a welshman, I think this documentary is brilliant and very reflective of Wales currently. You don't have to go far to find poverty in Wales and the more neglect we face, the more it'll bite the union in the future. Well done, Da Iawn. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@missthang4982

Жыл бұрын

❤ Sudbury, Ontario, Canada ✌️

@davidcarter4247

Жыл бұрын

My family lived in Wales in the late 19th century but were not Welsh. They were English, Cornish and Scottish doing middle class jobs the Welsh did not do. They were engineers, masons and railway superintendents. They were shipwrights and accountants. The Welsh were labourers, miners and domestic servants. 50 years ago I mixed with Welsh immigrants to Sydney. They had escaped homes with no bathrooms , toilets at the back gate and grinding poverty. None had owned a car before arriving in Australia. Poverty is Wales's normal state.

@amatvkhmer

Жыл бұрын

You are right

@jrjhughes1233

Жыл бұрын

England also has a lot of poverty. I’m English but of Welsh & Irish ancestry, and it’s like our Celtic neighbours just think the whole of England is Westminster. I’m not against the independence of each country btw. As for brexit, the Welsh voted for it too. I’m not a brexiteer, but this shapes it as if England dragged Wales kicking & screaming

@tomosprice8136

Жыл бұрын

​@JRJ Hughes while its true Wales voted by a slim majority for Brexit, Wales never voted for the Conservative party who implemented a hard-Brexit which has decimated Wales' economy

Free Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales!

@user-vc5qk9tg7u

Жыл бұрын

Westminster will never allow it.

@magicwandson4219

Жыл бұрын

@@user-vc5qk9tg7u it is not ultimately Westminster's decision

Respect to Wales and the Welsh people embracing their history and culture.

Amazing. Diolch o galon. Thank you so much for shedding light on our struggles as a nation. A brilliant documentary that will inspire future generations to keep believing that there IS a better way for Wales ❤

@elinmorgan8218

Жыл бұрын

Struggles? What struggles?

@iangwynne77

Жыл бұрын

@@elinmorgan8218 are you one of those boring people who needs to question everything even though the answers are staring you in your silly face?

@D_Marrenalv

Жыл бұрын

@@iangwynne77 I believe he is.

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

Aaaaah nationalism. The cure for everything 🙄

@Inquisitor_Vex

Жыл бұрын

@@mogznwaz when great empires fall, the people revert to national ethno-states. Just look at what happened to the eastern block counties after the Soviet Union fell. It’s almost like that’s the natural state of humanity. Also, consider what happens if the country itself starts to fail.. will foreigners stay and put the work in to fix it, or would they simply move on to another, more profitable host country? There’s nothing wrong with nationalism.

As an American born and raised in New York City, having no connection to the UK. This story touched me. The power of KZread to educate and inform.

@luns486

Жыл бұрын

I think the credit goes to the ABC before it goes to KZread

@angelicupstart1977

Жыл бұрын

You are the first American I’ve ever read about who doesn’t try to cling on to another countries history 👍

@Kuwandi

Жыл бұрын

I belive it was in 1632 that Wales came under the English rule …just happen to be watching the historical history of the Wales and England …I belive it was under Edward… just a curious American ….

@alynwillams4297

Жыл бұрын

@@Kuwandi indeed. And they try to say “we were United” when really it was invasion, oppression and then annexation. The English twist history so much to suit there narrative and make them look good.

@gwynevans6440

Жыл бұрын

@@Kuwandi Hey Welsh historian here, the military conquest of Wales by The Normans finished in 1282 and there was another century or so of revolts and risings (the big one around 1400), this was followed by the Tudor period where Welsh lords favoured by Henry VII led to much anto-Welsh feeling and an "apartheid" system where Welsh people (and even English people who married Welsh men or women) were legally second class citizens. Basically no one was happy! I think your date might relate to1535 when the Laws in Wales Acts made Welsh institutions and laws English. Not great for Welsh language and culture but effective in ending all those revolts. 👍

The right to self-determination is indeed the right of all nations. How can certain ones have the right to a state but others can't? How can the ones that do benefitted from it and wouldn't ever go back to the way it was yet not all are allowed to get this chance as well? Especially the one dominating you shouldn''t here paternally englishsplains (or whatever is your local equivalent) what you can and cannot do in the hidden name of their interests and empire over you, they're automatically in a conflict of interest and its not about yours. Be proud, Wales, don't be scared to ask what others have, you deserve it as much as they do.

As a Scotsman it makes me glad to know many in Wales are willing to look to new horizons away from the shackles of Westminster

@isengard1500

Жыл бұрын

Away from a powerful Union, straight into the hands of the Anti-West China and marxism. Divide and rule my friend.

@stiofain88

Жыл бұрын

​@@isengard1500 Divide and rule.....now which country have I heard of using that as their default diplomacy tactic? 🤔

@lucindafergusonart

Жыл бұрын

Scottish government is corrupt or haven't you noticed

@Marvin-dg8vj

Жыл бұрын

Wales is one of the poorest regions in the whole of the EU. Once that is sorted then it is realistic to look for new horizons

@lucindafergusonart

Жыл бұрын

@@Marvin-dg8vj its not in the EU

I am from the north east of England, near the Scottish border and from this video and others all I can see is please push for greater autonomy. There is a huge disconnect between the north and south England. At this point I feel like everyone who is English and lives outside of London wants to be a separate state than be part of a broken Westminster system which doesn’t represent anyone from outside the M25.

Whoever made the thumbnail needs a raise. That dragon looks fire!

Nice job. Really nice documentary. I’ve just been in Snowdonia. I heard the language often. The landscape is incredibly beautiful and the mountain biking is fantastic. Every Aussie shouldn’t miss it when they’re in Blighty.

I can see a lot of similarities between Wales and Catalunya.

gotta say, the presenters go at ordering a beer in welsh was really cool! thank you for raising awareness

Goooooooooo Waaaaales!! Gooooooooo Scotland!! Gooooooooooooo Ireland!!

It's funny, reading comments here you would think England has been trying to build Wales up, by investing in Wales so one day Wales will be able to leave, not extracting every last resource, human, natural, mineral..cutting every single budget for 13 years, whislt sending us all of Englands pensioners and oddballs..and putting Wales in complete penury to the extent that lots of the people here are thinking " well what have we got to lose, we are using foodbanks for survival now, and there will always be foodbanks".

Rhondda Cynon Taff has been deprived and bled dry since the late 1800s. We were criminalized for the Miners Strike of 1910-11 and still today get undermined by Westminster to this day. We really need to push for independence in the next few years.

@tommyhassan3545

Жыл бұрын

Always makes me angry when you see people in former mining communities voting for the tories

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

I think you have a rather selective view of history there.

@SuaveWelshy

Жыл бұрын

@@mogznwaz Not like a majority of us from Rhondda had family involved in the strike. How could we possibly know what happened I guess?

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

@@SuaveWelshy Selective about the whole of Welsh and British history and how they intertwine. One thing at one time from one point of view - is a very selective view - as I said.

@SuaveWelshy

Жыл бұрын

@@mogznwaz Ofcourse we are selective because the treatment we've had obviously hurts. There's been a lot of stuff in recent history which really shows nothing has ever changed. As much as I would like independence I truly believe if the right people got into westminister then we'd really have a United Kingdom. The tories have really outstayed their welcome and just keep damaging the entire isle as a whole at the moment so it's only realistic people want independence. We've had a Tory government for bloody years now

Fair play to the Aussie guy, his pronunciation is pretty good.

Wow, as a native Cantonese speaker, hearing about the Welsh people's experiences with language assimilation makes me sympathize with them so much. The Cantonese people have also been suffering being a part of China, and the Chinese government has been trying to destroy our language for a long time through assimilationist policies, such as the example that in schools students are prohibited from speaking Cantonese and are forced to speak Mandarin. I will spend the rest of my life defending, preserving and promoting the Cantonese language. But at the same time, I do wish for a day when the Cantonese people can separate from the oppressive Chinese Empire and form our own independent nation-state and drive out Mandarin! So I've also been supporting the independence of Cantonia.

@mew11two

Жыл бұрын

The difference is the British government has made no attempt to suppress the Welah language for well over 100 years, in fact it's been doing the opposite. As a result Welsh has been slowly making a comeback, you see bilingual signage all over Wales and sometimes even in the border areas between England and Wales. It's even routine to have bilingual English and Welsh government documents mailed to you in ENGLAND as all documents are required to have a Welsh translation available in both England and Wales. The UK supports Hong Kong, do not squander that.

@Clarksville000

Жыл бұрын

​@lenny Cantonese is Chinese language

@Clarksville000

Жыл бұрын

@lenny you mean han? Cantonese and mandarin are both hans they're different in terms of language but racially the same

@Game_Hero

Жыл бұрын

@@Clarksville000 here comes the imperialist dictating to the locals that they don't exist outside their empire...

@chrisjones2625

Жыл бұрын

I didn't know this. Very good luck to you!

I am from Adelaide but my girlfriend is from Wrexham and I visited her family last Christmas with her. What a great town and it's on the up! Great coverage ABC

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

So if somewhere is doing well it’s thanks to Wales if it’s bad it must be the fault of the English. Right.

@WendyJoseph-ww8ws

Жыл бұрын

I'm from NZ but live in Oz. My great grandfather, (Maternal,) was Welsh. He would have been delighted at this move towards regaining Welsh Sovereignty. Stuff Westminster. The sun has finally set on their damned "empire."

@WendyJoseph-ww8ws

Жыл бұрын

@@mogznwaz That's a pretty shallow remark..

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

@@WendyJoseph-ww8ws Not really, that is EXACTLY the attitude we’re dealing with. What did you want, a 100 page essay?

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

@@WendyJoseph-ww8ws BTW I can’t think of anything more shallow than your comment about the ‘damn Empire’, the one without which your comfy Oz/NZ lifestyle would never have existed. Complain all you want but you ARE children of the British empire. Which included Wales and Welsh regiments, engineers and more. You should be a bit more damn grateful frankly.

Not Welsh, but I wish all the best for Welsh independence. When they talk of the Welsh-not... indeed, the English (and English-speaking colonials in the US/Canada/Australia/NZ) have a long history of trying to exterminate other languages. My mom never taught me her birth language (typical self-hating minority schtick), and my dad was raised speaking English at home- and spoke anything else terribly so didn't even try (both came from a former colony). To this day as an adult, it's not something I can ever accept- to not pass on the language that is their heritage, is like intentionally crippling the child. As we move to a more multilateral, less colonial world, I hope to see peoples reclaim their heritage that was stolen from them more, across the world...

Great story! Beautiful country!! The Welsh connection with country and importance of preserving /reclaiming their language and culture is a story that should be more widely known.

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

The English allowed it. They could have just gone in and slaughtered everyone and stamped it all out like Genghis Khan would have done. They didn’t.

@user-vj7gp3ip9j

Жыл бұрын

Half the blacks in the W Indies have welsh names, Is Wales going to give them their culture back?

@bannaubrycheiniog1329

Жыл бұрын

@@user-vj7gp3ip9j stay off the brandy

The presenters pronounciations are brilliant!. Thanks for raising awareness of this topic! DA IAWN!

@turtledove4728

Жыл бұрын

Yes, full respect to Nick Dole for actually taking the time & effort to learn how to pronounce Welsh properly. More than any lazy, arrogant reporter from England has ever done. A truly professional approach.

@gwynevans6440

Жыл бұрын

I thought that! Great effort, and he learned how to order a pint so he's made.

Cymru am byth 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿❤️ Annibyniaeth nawr! ❤

The poverty in Wales is shameful. From not only Welsh Labour but also from Conservative Westminster. And an independent Wales can only be free without the English Royal family or for that matter any Royal family. Im fed up of us being a third world country its time to change this!

@Game_Hero

Жыл бұрын

From Québec, fight on, Wales, we're with you! Also learn from our mistakes in trying to change this so you actually can get it in the end unlike us so far :(

@familyseed1555

7 ай бұрын

Royal family from Scotland.

@dianeshelton9592

6 ай бұрын

Yes but remember the Welsh Senaate is only allowed what money Westminster gives it. Which is not proportional to the amount of people

@familyseed1555

5 ай бұрын

free without the English Royal family? What kind of joke?

Wales deserves its own Sovereign ...

@user-vc5qk9tg7u

Жыл бұрын

Not a chance. Westminster will not allow it. Just look at Scotland same thing.

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

It has one already. King Charles III who served faithfully as Prince of Wales for many decades as does his son now.

@Inquisitor_Vex

Жыл бұрын

@@mogznwaz illegitimate though.

@MrBurtonshaw

Жыл бұрын

We don't want or need a "royalty"!!! No vote, no power

@spidos1000

Жыл бұрын

@@user-vc5qk9tg7u Scotland was given a referendum. What are you talking about?

If Wales and Scotland are too small to be sovereign, shouldn't the same be true for the Nordic countries, too?

@maggiepie8810

Жыл бұрын

@@liam1561 I just wanted to put it out there that Europe is full of small countries that depend heavily on the EU and that works just fine. As a Scandinavian, I shudder at the thought of a united Scandinavia as one country, I just imagine the amount of infighting it would lead to. With that said, I'm not sure that whatever is going on in Westminster is representing 95% of England, either, so simply blaming the English for everything wrong with the UK government is possibly a bit unfair.

@stiofain88

Жыл бұрын

​@@maggiepie8810 If you're from Northern England it's more than a little unfair but just like the US, England seem to have got themselves into a position where they get to vote between two parties who are ridiculously similar so only have a choice between power through and power through with some attempts at damage control. I feel sorry for a lot of them but it's up to them to change their system. Ironically Scotland and Wales leaving might give them the kick in the arse that's required to change their system.

@maggiepie8810

Жыл бұрын

@@stiofain88 It's also worth mentioning that the English high and mighty elite don't exactly have a track record of treating white English people particularly well, either, unless they're part of their exclusive club and compliant with their status quo. Blanket-blaming English people is not something that I think that people should be doing.

@stiofain88

Жыл бұрын

@@maggiepie8810 Generally speaking we wouldn't because it's nasty but eventually someone has to be held accountable for actions and Scotland and even Northern which has 42% Loyalists/Unionists didn't vote for Brexit. Wales is trying to blame it on English pensioners who retired in Wales as it's cheaper but this is a complete cop out and shouldn't have gotten the decision over the line. In the end though they are the cause of their own situation, they could change it if they wanted to but they don't. I would never be rude to an English person if they weren't rude to me first. The worst is half the time they don't know they're being rude. Little put downs like " Ireland is a "British Isle" or everyone here is a terrorist etc. It's not even their fault they don't get taught about what the empire was so get sent off into the world to regurgitate imperialist bs.

@maggiepie8810

Жыл бұрын

@SK Getting Brexit done and leaving the single market did throw NI under the bus. There was recklessness and lack of concern for what would happen to NI that's quite disgusting, if you ask me. 'Someone needs to be held accountable for Brext.' I agree, but the people who deserve it the most are the people who decided that leaving the EU is a bit like ripping a plaster off, when it was more like chopping off a limb.

Dear Welsh people I agree the English are pissed off with Westminster as well all real British should get rid of them they have sat long enough and made a giant mess.God Bless.

welsh people are lovely and their culture, language and history is very unique and intresting i had a welsh teacher when i was in year 6 and he is still my favorite teacher ive ever had love from thailand 🇹🇭🤝🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@mariannehancock8282

Жыл бұрын

Diolch.

Give independence! Also give the regions of England more independence from Parliament while at it.

@elinmorgan8218

Жыл бұрын

Yeah... that'll work, we'll just have an island of great and honest politicians

@raquetdude

Жыл бұрын

@@elinmorgan8218 would mean the north is actually represented by politicians not representatives of firms. Same in the south west as that’s looking to flip liberal. The whole M25 area would be represented by representatives of the people not mega corporations.

FREE WALES!!!

We English's feel like our government no longer represents us and has not for a long time both parties . So i understand just how the Welsh feel .

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

@@liam1561 So it’s really just ethnocentric hatred then. Nice 🙄

@jjharson7344

Жыл бұрын

@@liam1561 I'm calling BS on that, I would say the reverse is true from the Welsh folk I have known - I love Wales as an Englishman. Governments are crap, I'd support Wales in it's quest to go it alone if that's what they wanted. I've never felt truly welcome in Scotland, but always have in Wales. Caernarfon is truly a beautiful place.

@amandalewis3898

Жыл бұрын

My ancestors came from Carmarthenshire and settled here in Middlesbrough in the north east of England when the town was developed in the mid 1800s, a lot of our sayings are welsh. But don’t believe that here in England we are treat any different. In the north we are ignored by Westminster.

The question of whether or not Wales becomes an independent country really depends on what happens in Scotland. If they vote to leave the UK and Ireland reunifies then there will not much of a union to be part of. A union of just England and Wales? What would be the flag, the anthem of this lopsided union? Would we really want to be the only country in the British Isles without a the ability to govern ourselves, or a seat in the UN? I notice that a lot of people comment here about the incompetence of the current Welsh government. Whilst I share their concerns that's not an argument to oppose independence or devolution but more of an argument to vote them out.

@user-vc5qk9tg7u

Жыл бұрын

except that Westminster will never allow that to happen and if they try, the iron fist of England will return to Ireland.

@angussoutter7824

Жыл бұрын

They might not be great but they aren’t as woeful as the current Tory Government and you’d get to pick your own Government rather than the one foisted on you

@hobbabobba7912

Жыл бұрын

​@@user-vc5qk9tg7u the iron fist of England?? What century are you living in?

@stiofain88

Жыл бұрын

​@@user-vc5qk9tg7u Tell your boys to bring their own body bags this time as we're not providing them.

@user-vc5qk9tg7u

Жыл бұрын

@@stiofain88 Don't mess with the english, we did it once, we can do it again mate.

"Cenedl heb raith, cenedl heb galon"! Ewch Cymru.

I have lived in Wales since 93 and I have come to realise Welsh independence is the way forward for Wales

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

Why? Really? Wales hasn’t been an independent country in at least 1000 years. It’s like Brittany trying to separate from France. And they talk like that sometimes. It’s nuts.

@ktu668

Жыл бұрын

Don't talk dull.

@petarnovakovich240

Жыл бұрын

We don't have the industrial base anymore - how would we be able to support ourselves? The steel industry is gone, so are the coal mines (thank god), we don't manufacture much of anything. I wouldn't mind being independent if we could support ourselves. We don't even own our water, most of it goes to supply England.

@cmg1819

Жыл бұрын

I can't see how wales could support itself. It's by far the smallest of the home nations and with the world moving on from fossil fuels it has no real export opportunities. Its economy is far too small. Maybe if it made itself some kind of tax haven?

@Inquisitor_Vex

Жыл бұрын

@@cmg1819 Luxembourg is the smallest nation in Europe and has the highest GDP/capita and I don’t see anyone saying they are too small to be independent.

Merlin prophesied the Britons (that means Welsh Celts) will liberate Britain from the Anglo-Saxon English.

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

🙄

@MrRolandgent

Жыл бұрын

The Merlin who never existed ?

@grahamfleming8139

Жыл бұрын

@@MrRolandgent marlins grave is at drumelzier by peebles, in the Welsh part of Scotland. Although Scottish I am proud of my Cymbrian bloodlines. We always support Scotland but after that Wales, at rugby. Come on boyos.

Reality check. The majority of Welsh voted for Brexit. The Nationalist party electorally has got nowhere for years and most of country closely tied economically with rest of UK.

@ugh4387

Жыл бұрын

it's been proven that the english people living in wales swung the vote to leave but don't let facts get in the way of your wrong opinion

@PhoeniX199777

Жыл бұрын

@@ugh4387 Love to see a source for that

@Game_Hero

Жыл бұрын

closely tied economically to England for now, you gotta render your conquests submissive and dependant on you so you can better control them (even better if you erase them as an identity). Nations fighting for their rights to enjoy what others have will end such disposition like with Ireland a century ago, and it's not like the rest of the Britannic Isles will go away or stop trading.

@ronnieharford3326

9 ай бұрын

@@ugh4387let’s see the facts, not to mention the thousands of Welsh that moved to England both in the past and now, I suppose they didn’t vote did they? I live in Wales and it’s so stuck in the past too much that’s what holds Wales back.

Diolch yn fawr! Thank you very much! Annibyniaeth rwan! Independence now!

In the future i definitely think the UK will sadly break apart into independent nations. For the other nations like Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales they can escape Westminster and the ridiculous politics going on in London while England have no escape from it.

@Game_Hero

Жыл бұрын

sadly? It'd finally be the end of the English/British empire with all the legacy that comes with it. National self-emancipation is not a beautiful thing?

@familyseed1555

8 ай бұрын

@@Game_Hero English/British empire? Welsh and Scottish are British Empire. Not only English.

@familyseed1555

8 ай бұрын

@@Game_Hero Welsh are the British Empire.

@Game_Hero

8 ай бұрын

@@familyseed1555 started by and for England, Wales being its first conquest.

@familyseed1555

8 ай бұрын

@@Game_Hero Wales are the British Empire. Many Wales and Scotland are profits from Slavery of British Empire.

To learn more about the village that was flooded its worth watching the film THE WELSHMAN.

It won't be an independent Wales Going alone, it will be the poorest and weakest country in the EU. With no military defense.

@stiofain88

Жыл бұрын

The only ones likely to attack them are you lot.

Didn't a majority of Welsh vote for Brexit?

@alynwillams4297

Жыл бұрын

Brexit and independence are two separate issues.

@janetmalcolm6191

Жыл бұрын

Paul Allen....yes they did.

@alynwillams4297

Жыл бұрын

@@janetmalcolm6191 52% for and 48% against. Not a big majority, especially when you consider that it was the English that have moved to Wales that swayed the vote. which Oxford University discovered and did an article about it.

@pablo19136

Жыл бұрын

@@alynwillams4297 about the same percentage vote in England. I'm proud working class English life long socialist and in fact pro independence if the Welsh and Scottish people want it. I would to escape Westminster and the English working class fawning to their masters lol voting for the Tories for crying out loud. Any sane country would want to escape . Hopefully one day Ireland will be united as well. Cheers.

@Game_Hero

Жыл бұрын

Now they majoritarily regret it.

Great report. Wales is a country and a people I’m very fond of. I’m Irish and so they’re kin. It’s not my place or anyone else’s, to tell the Welsh people what to do. My own opinion is that independence is the way to go but whatever they choose I wish them all the best. Cymru am byth!

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

And why are they ‘kin’? Oh yeah because of generations of inter Celtic warfare between clans and raids across the sea

One thing, it’s not just Wrecsam. It’s been ongoing since Tryweryn, 60’s onwards

@mothermovementa

3 ай бұрын

Remember Tryweryn

I’m Welsh, I live in Scotland though. Here’s the problem, Wales voted for this. Don’t give me that rubbish that “This wasn’t what we voted for” because it was. It’s why Scotland didn’t vote for this.

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

A million Scots also voted for Brexit

The Welsh are lovely people, nothing but good things to say about them. Loyal to the bone as friends

@elinmorgan8218

Жыл бұрын

As are probably a huge percent of people across the known world, thats not a unique characteristic to the welsh !

@transittramp51

Жыл бұрын

And they vote for the likes of drakeford the Welsh are not the brightest spark in the fire . I live in Wales 30 years ago it was a special place to live in now it's a mess and rapidly getting worse thanks to people who vote with there hearts and not with there heads

@Inquisitor_Vex

Жыл бұрын

@@elinmorgan8218 they never said it was unique, just that that’s their experience. Why’d you have to be such a negative Nancy about it?

@kria9119

Жыл бұрын

@@elinmorgan8218 where did I say that was a Welsh-only characteristics? Aren't you a ray of sunshine..

When this American country bumpkin first moved to the UK I moved to Cardiff. I fell in love with Wales from previous visits. Castles on every corner and nature. I'd move back to Wales in a split second if I could.

@user-vc5qk9tg7u

Жыл бұрын

things have changed, it would be like moving to Gary IN. years of neglect by Westminster

@ahuddleston6512

Жыл бұрын

@@user-vc5qk9tg7u Nooooo!!! Thanks for the warning. I'll keep my magic fairyland image also for Chepstow and Caerphilly especially after a few months of clubbing back in '97 in Especially after a rugby win!😜 This is a lady's opinion. I'm not sure of others view

"They look at Brexit" Well, the Welsh voted for it. As for Westminster, they should sort out the shower in Cardiff first

@ugh4387

Жыл бұрын

it's been proven that the english people living in wales swung the vote to leave but don't let facts get in the way of your wrong opinion

@adventussaxonum448

Жыл бұрын

@@ugh4387 Where was that proved ? Don't English people living in Wales get a vote, then? 😅 Nobody asked me where I came from when we had the Referendum.

@Game_Hero

Жыл бұрын

Vote for Plaid Cymru, I know from experience people all about loving your own nation and therefore its wellbeing to push it to a country are a right choice for that.

Even many of us English want to leave Tory Britain. Republic of Brighton and Hove sounds good.

@lancyr_2009

Жыл бұрын

Peoples Republic of South Yorkshire ✊

Ces i fy ngeni a ces i fy magu yn Awstralia a dw i'n byw yn Awstralia nawr, ond dw i'n dysgu Cymraeg. I was born, brought up in, and now live in Australia, but I'm learning Welsh. It's not because I have any prospect of ever living there - I don't. As a middle aged Ausie, that's impossible. Rather, my reasons are partly to honour an ancient culture, partly to connect with my ancestors, partly because it's so unique, but mostly in order to do my bit to help revive an ancient language that was almost extinguished, and lost forever. I do hope that more Welsh people can learn to value themselves and their country more. Instead of listening to the derogatory jokes and condescension that come out of England even to this day.

Let’s go independent 💪🏽

@amatvkhmer

Жыл бұрын

ok

@scrittle

Жыл бұрын

A second BREXIT will do you no good, it'll end in more economic recession

@facebookmary7502

Жыл бұрын

​@@scrittleI'm sure you say that about Tibet in China also

@facebookmary7502

Жыл бұрын

​@@scrittleI'm sure you say that about Tibet in China also

It's always interesting to hear an outsider's perspective. Da iawn [well done] especially for including so much Cymraeg! Yma o hyd!

Bout time this country of ours got some fire in its belly

Well made doc and a much better attempt at Welsh than most English ever do

@chrisjones2625

Жыл бұрын

Ond dw i'n bod i Lerpwl ac dw i wedi bod yn dysgu Cymraeg am tua dau mis rŵan. Yr iaith Gymraeg mae'n dfyddol. Sorry for all the errors!

@MabDarogan2

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisjones2625 no need to be sorry. Two months is nothing. Do you mean "...byw yn Lerpwl..." or "...dod/dwad o Lerpwl..."? If you're from Liverpool, you'll definitely have Welsh ancestry anyway. And you're name's Jones, which is a bit of a clue. Da iawn am ddysgu.

There are plenty of people in England who want to see the break up of the Union too, a lot of those people want to have nothing to do with Westminster and the conservative party. Good luck to Wales, Scotland too. However, in Wales, and I’ve worked in various places, in Wales and find that South Wales less likely to support independence. It’s good to see Brexit getting mentioned too. I’ve always wondered why people voted for Brexit when the EU have done so much more for Wales, Yorkshire etc than Westminster has ever done. But they were warned.

@mixodorians12

Жыл бұрын

English immigrants here pushed brexit over the line. English people who come here because they hate foriegners, and think England is a Foriegn country to them...(I know). Many academic studies have shown this to be the case.

@Cantbearsed447

5 күн бұрын

So they should stick around in Birmingham for their children to be "assimilated" rather than flee to wales? Youre hating the wrong people, as usual.

No Welsh ancestry AFAIK but some Celtic. In general, I support whatever let's people prosper. Fight on, Y Cymry!

From what I've heard Wales is using "the alternative vote" (a form of the mixed member proportional electoral system). If so then yes, Wales would probably run itself better then the UK, simply because there would be more variety in the views represented in the parliament.

Scotland already wants out of that mess. Wales was forcefully taken by England it has to be noted.

@WalesTheTrueBritons

Жыл бұрын

Nope! The Occupation of Wales any England ended in 1409, then A Welsh Man by the name of Harri Tudor conquered England at the Battle of Bosworth Field in 1485, His Son would then go on to annex Wales to The Kingdom of England in Peace time around 1536-1542. Another worlds, Wales isn’t a part of English law because of Conquest, well, it is, but not England to Wales…but Rather Wales to England.

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

Umm the English as we know them now didn’t really exist back then, they were a nascent combination of Anglo Saxons, Normans and Vikings who invaded. Norman French drove the native Celts back into Wales and went across the sea to Ireland, taking Catholicism with them and kickstarting centuries of tit for tat wars and conflict. The Irish used to invade England and Wales too. To me all of this us just interesting footnotes of history, this obsession with victimhood is just more ethnocentric tribal nonsense.

My ancestors came from Carmarthenshire and settled here in Middlesbrough in the north east of England when the town was developed in the mid 1800s, a lot of our sayings are welsh. But don’t believe that here in England we are treat any different. In the north we are ignored by Westminster.

It's time for Wales to wake up. End Westminster rule! Cymru am byth 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Y Wladfa supports Wales ❤ 🇦🇷🤝🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Beautiful country and it's people deserve their independence 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 like us Scots do 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@vodaredhill1704

Жыл бұрын

I agree and I'm English.

@user-ir1lu1ei4n

Жыл бұрын

The obsession of trying to break up the uk is embarrassing

@sandrapaterson8678

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ir1lu1ei4n Only for the deluded!!

Great Documentary! Thank you

It's fantastic to see Wales more and more represented around the world, and being a part of the independence movement it's energising to hear conversations and see references to an independent Wales more and more. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Cymru am byth! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@phoebsc5993

Жыл бұрын

Cymru am byth from an Ebbw Valley Welsh witch.)❤

@BusyAndySings

Жыл бұрын

@@phoebsc5993 Bore da, Phoebs

Kingdom against kingdom Nation against nation 🥠🔮

the language is different, obviously the Welsh culture is different too ... if it was to be Welsh, I would fight for independence

The Late Great Britain. RIP.

Poor buggers, it maybe time to go it a lone. Best wishes from Australia,

We were the people running Gigs Cefn Car, the event for welsh music day at 7:30 :) Thank you for covering us and massive thank you for celebrating our culture and showing the amazing story behind the drive for Welsh independence :)

@Inquisitor_Vex

Жыл бұрын

Diolch I ti for keeping the culture alive. 💪 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🐉

As much as I love my Country I have major doubts that the south Walian council has the ability to govern us. They've wasted 250 million pounds (increasing every day) on Caerdydd airport just to satisfy a few thousand people around south Wales whilst we have third world NHS and education systems. 150 million just reclaimed by Westminster because Welsh labour didn't use it. Shambolic

@bannaubrycheiniog1329

Жыл бұрын

And the tories in westminster waste far more

Wales should go it alone, vote plaid cymru and get rid of Westminster for good

@familyseed1555

8 ай бұрын

plaid cymru are the Westminster.

Good on those chapels and kind people helping the poor. Support the farmers and buy directly from them your eggs, meat veg not those greedy foreign supermarkets

For what it's worth, I'm 100 percent behind your cause. Press on and don't back down. Your cause is a righteous one.

Billions and billions of pounds were taken out of Wales by coal masters, iron barons etc.. Then with the collapse of these industries in the 70s and 80s Wales was abandoned especially the industrial south and it hasn't recovered.

From england and support the uk, but we need a change of leadership and improvements to be made in the post-brexit era or the kingdom won't be so united and wales would be better off independent

We've been under the boot for generations, the EU did nothing for us, Westminster has done nothing for us, the shared wealth didn't reach any part of Wales I have ever lived. Cymru Am Byth! 💪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@andrewelphick2304

Жыл бұрын

Welsh Independence. The joke with no punchline.

@WalesTheTrueBritons

Жыл бұрын

Yma O Hyd Andrew! Are we Scared?

@commonsense9176

Жыл бұрын

EU did nothing? Have you seen how many buildings were built with EU money

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

Cardiff does pretty well though, it’s had a lot of investment in recent decades. I guess all the money the Welsh get went there, thanks to your devolved left wing government

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

@@commonsense9176It’s not EU money it was OUR money coming back to us with an EU flag on it

Good luck to Wales on their way to Inderpendence with a good football team and a lot of good singing . And the steelworks a lot of sheep, so no financial support from Westminster. GOOD LUCK

West Walian, living in Scotland now, still got my pulse on the 'Yes Cymru' movement. 🤟😎

I am English. If the Welsh people really want to secede from the UK then I think that they should be perfectly free and able to do so (I'd be quite happy to see England do the same, as it happens), but if I were a gambling man - which I am not, as a matter of fact - I'd rank such a secession to be about as likely as Rhode Island electing to become part of the Russian Federation.

@alynwillams4297

Жыл бұрын

That’s because for some reason you believe that Wales is for some strange reason, the only country in the world that can’t survive being independent? Even tho there are smaller country’s in Europe and the rest of the world.

@neilsaunders6009

Жыл бұрын

@@alynwillams4297 No it isn't. I do not believe that. Why are you attributing opinions to me that I have not expressed?

@alynwillams4297

Жыл бұрын

@@neilsaunders6009 so do you believe that wales could be independent?

@neilsaunders6009

Жыл бұрын

@@alynwillams4297 I can see no practical reason why it cannot.

@bobbod8069

Жыл бұрын

@@alynwillams4297 He didn't say that. I believe an independent Wales would do fine, but accusing someone of saying something that they didn't is not on.

Excellent. We just don't get this degree of honest representation of our situation from British television channels.

Sat at home on the North Wales coast watching this. Diolch, ABC. Yma o Hyd. Cymru am Byth. Big up Launceston. Born in Wales, raised in Ravenswood.

@jwasterp

Жыл бұрын

That's the beauty of opinions cariad. Right or wrong you're entitled to it. Don't call me English though cos that's just offensive. ✌️ and ❤️

Great documentary, the sooner Wales gains independence the better

Typical to hear the 'the English aren't native' rhetoric.

@anglosaxon4571

Жыл бұрын

I don't think the Welsh are native either because there were folks here before the Celts.

@Cantbearsed447

5 күн бұрын

Its just stupid. Were genetically the same. Its like northern ireland. Put 1 million actual foreigners over there and theyll forget about fighting each other quite quickly

I don't understand Why is a lot of people's solution to the crisis to just leave the union (quit) and hope things get better without any viable plan and fueled by hate for the Tories. By quitting they just make things worse for themselves and everyone who remains. England is in the same boat as everyone else; ruled by incompetence.

Great language

Give the English a vote on the union. I suspect Wales and Scotland would have a nasty shock. 🤣

@neildoig

Жыл бұрын

i hope that nasty shock is you can leave the union

@roy9816

Жыл бұрын

@@neildoig It certainly is. Wales is like the sidecar to our motorbike, we have the engine.

@stiofain88

Жыл бұрын

Ye keep saying that...but still never let anyone go.

@Game_Hero

Жыл бұрын

goes to show it's their (english) country before all, an empire if you will, and they'll keep their colonies chained to them for their sole benefits, infantilizing them and englishsplaining them what they can and cannot do in the process in a clear conflict of interest.

If you don't stand up for what you believe? Then it doesn't much matter what you believe. I support the Welsh people. Feel horrible for the situation that was rammed down their throats. Brexit is a black eye that seemingly will never go away. My heart to your country and the suffering you all have gone through and continue to go through. Sudbury, Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦 ♥️✌️

@andrewelphick2304

Жыл бұрын

Wales and England were the two regions of the U.K. which returned a majority in favour of “Brexit”.

@WalesTheTrueBritons

Жыл бұрын

True, however, C4 proved that it was the English retirees who reside in Wales who contributed to Wales voting 51% in favour.

@amatvkhmer

Жыл бұрын

Welsh people

@elinmorgan8218

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't t trust channel four they're not known for their truth before opinions and anyway ... The Welsh Government is massively pro-immigration... no problem then

@mogznwaz

Жыл бұрын

The Welsh voted for Brexit

America 🇺🇸 has Welsh independence on its back

@familyseed1555

8 ай бұрын

America should help Afghanistan and Iraq first.

@mcdavius4452

8 ай бұрын

Hawaii should get their independence from US and so should Alaska, Wyoming, Montana, California and all the other states that have independence movements. Only fair.

Its over for the Brits babe 🤣