Absolutely love the ending message. There isn’t many content creators that would empathize with their less competitive/ skilled player base. It really meant a lot to me as someone who deals with tons of anxiety when playing games to hear someone give a positive message regarding that problem. Definitely looking forward towards hopefully years of content from you in the future

@NathanK3945

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That last part was actually great! left a like just for that! great vid too

Thank you for putting this out there. People who make these videos are somehow missing the fact that if you stay lower you have less options, face more mirrors, have less room to surprise and outplay anyone and generally it all devolves into kazar fighting devil dinosaur in the jungle

@soumyadipghosh3440

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Always thought I was the only one with the fear of playing ranked games. Idk why but I feel this anxiety no matter what game I play as long as that has a competitive mode. Truly thankful for his last message

@hellfire6714

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@@soumyadipghosh3440 I think marvel snap should mostly be seen as an unranked game given how matchmaking works and how little even the high rank rewards give its just a casual slow progression collection game with an option to show off some cool deck idea you made. The new titles that got introduced recently show that the devs want the game to be considered more light hearted and for fun

@demontferrat

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Definitely, I want to go on in my rank to have way more decks to play, pool 1 is too restrictive, I am currently on pool 3 and I mostly play movement deck(without cloak because I haven him yet) and it’s fun to play, there are stronger decks but I play what I like and I switch between decks I find fun, I wouldn’t like to play Devil Dino and Kazar 24/7 on pool 1.

@nickyminaj709

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@@demontferrat im in pool 2, and i had already got my cloack. My colection is about 440

@pinobluevogel6458

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People will optimize the fun out of every game. It is up to developers to try and make sure the optimal way to play is also the most fun. Still, some player agency in this is necessary.

Can't express enough how much I apreciate the standards you set and uphold in the CCG community. A good person with good content, love to see it! :)

I had heard about holding off at 214 on Reddit. I did this. It made sense (assuming it was true). I got to almost 60 as I got near that credit cap, then tumbled down to 49. Then I took a step back and was like, "What am I doing? Just advance the collection level and start having fun with new cards." So I did. Ended the season under 60, but that's fine. I hope/plan to hit Infinite someday, such an awesome card back, but getting the mystery card rank is my personal milestone now. Thanks for the video.

@pinobluevogel6458

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Expecting to hit infinite on the first season of play is a little much to ask, even if you are incredibly smart and a fast learner. And even then, hitting infinite takes time, even at very high winrate. I think you made the right choice. Enjoy your time playing, you will always improve over time anyways. At this time, 60 feels way more competative than it was back in closed beta.

@max_6763

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@@pinobluevogel6458 I did the same thing thinking i was smart, held my progress at 215 and managed to get to rank 85, then I hit the cap and was like sure ill upgrade. Really wanted to hit the infinite tho in my first weeks of play

@pinobluevogel6458

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@@max_6763 That is some very nice ranking indeed. As long as you're having fun and enjoy ranking, going for it is a nice challenge. There are quite a lot of good players though, both new and old. Especially when you near 90-95, it could get a little try-hard.

@Viney212

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Learning the new cards, seeing new interactions and figuring out what your opponents can or are likely to play on a given turn is so much more valuable than a few extra credits or a card back. Knowledge will get you so much further in future seasons if you put in the work, have fun, and don't burn out playing the same basic tier stuff over and over again.

@max_6763

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@@Viney212 I agreed but I rushed through it the first weeks so im not sad about getting a lot of experience in the basic tier since it thought me a fair bit about map play and reading opponents etc

You've earned my sub with this video. Been enjoying your videos so far, but I appreciate your candid views and philosophy approaching both content creation and having the most fun with Marvel SNAP. To offer another perspective, I've seen both videos you mentioned in this video, and while I now agree with you on the overall perspective, I do think they make some valid points. The initial point made in the matchmaking video was that two players with full collections matched each other despite being 40 ranks apart. The takeaway here isn't necessarily that rank doesn't matter for matchmaking, but moreso that collection level has a large impact on your available opponents. It's a good thing to know. The player population is largely pool 1/2 right now, so in those pools, you have a healthy matchmaking experience and the other factor probably weigh in more. But people who pay money or were beta players who are accelerating their collection levels have a smaller pool and therefore are more likely to need to search "wide" for opponents. I don't think the actual takeaway is that stalling your collection levels gives you a huge advantage as the video claims, however. On the other video, I think the main point he's making is that experienced beta players playing pool 1 decks on new accounts doesn't accurately represent new player experience. On new accounts, they're basically taking their experience and beating less experienced players. He makes the point that in his own videos, he plays his pool 1/2 decks against other full collection opponents, not on new accounts. I believe you do that as well, but not everyone does. That said, the meta in pool 1 is different, so a pool 1 deck that performs well against pool 3 collection opponents won't necessarily do well in pool 1 if it doesn't do well against pool 1 meta decks like Kazar and Dino. So I think there's some value in showcasing pool 1/2 decks against opponents in the same pool, but only if the meta makes a difference.

As somebody who has dealt with (and is still dealing with) FOMO in the rank ladder and ladder anxiety, this video definitely helps. It is a wonderful reminder that the most important thing about a game is to have fun with it. Everything else is secondary. Thanks for the advice!

Ummmm no, I just took your advice and level up from 594 to 698 and immediately I am facing WAAYYYYYY more refined Pool 3 decks. At 594 I was facing 95% Pool 2 decks with a Pool 3 deck or card here and there, usually very unoptimized. Now, I'm going up against nearly complete Pool 3 decks with players with Infinity cardbacks from early access meaning they probably have 1000+ collection level where I was NEVER facing that off before. In fact the game would pair me up with a friend that had a similar collection constantly even though we weren't even trying to queue up against each other, so it's clear that the game was taking collection level into consideration very heavily before. So yeah, thanks, now you made my climb harder. EDIT: I just want to make clear how much stronger the decks are now that I'm facing. I just went up against a Death, Wave, Black Panther, Arnim Zola deck. I would NEVER have faced that before. I was mostly facing Dino Destroy and other pool 2 type decks before this. So yeah, this isn't just " a feeling", this is super obviously happening. Sigh. EDIT 2: Just got matched up against my 2nd early access Infinity cardback player. EDIT 3: Patriot Ultron. EDIT 4: Arnim Zola, Wong. EDIT 5: Wong, Doom

@EACru2002

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@@jurajojo2543 Infinite. Also my friend was around around rank 85.

@EACru2002

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@@jefffranklin2405 That's what it's starting to feel like lol.

Been watching a few things, but just subscribed now. I really enjoy your content, and the fact that you are showcasing various deck ideas at different pool levels, sharing solid information and overall your passion for the game really comes through. I love that you are really able to share the sentiment that the ranked system atm can just be for fun!

Thanks for this, and also for your other clear, useful, sensible videos. I started playing a couple of weeks ago at global release, and your channel has quickly proven to be a great resource, both for deck lists but also for some general strategy tips. Your video on "when to snap" is probably something that every 2nd or 3rd week player should watch. The video you refer to came up in my feed when I was still in pool 2, and I spent about five minutes wondering if I should stall my collection level, but ultimately I was too eager to get a chance to try some new cards, so I kept upgrading whenever I had the credits. I don't regret it a bit. Thanks again for the useful, levelheaded content.

A video with a clickbait-y thumbnail to protect from clickbaits is a hustle I have to respect lol Jokes aside, I've been really enjoying your Snap content. You're the main reason I fell in love with the game in the first place. Looking forward to your content!

From my experience, climbing was about managing snaps and avoiding blunders. And the few odd times that [insert random pool 3 card] got me were fun experiences. In fact, it felt the same as when pool 2 cards like Enchantress and Killmonger got me. Just had to acknowledge the fact that people are running those and adapt. And now that I started getting some pool 3 cards, I can play to theirs strengths and adapt to the micro-meta my ladder experience really is. Like, yeah I got lucky and opened Magick and Mystique as my first two pool 3 cards. But it's not like I can just net deck one of Jeff's decks, so I had to build a cheesey Onslaught exodia deck that adjusted well to what I see on the ladder. And guess what, Killmonger and Enchantress still get me. You should either get good, or don't care.

This content is why I love your videos so much. It’s incredibly well thought out and offers a healthy way to look at not just card games, but games in general.

Some people treat the jump to pool 3 like going from your local rec league to suddenly being in the NBA. It's not that scary, you still have a good set of core cards. Every new cache brings something exciting (or depressing). Really well said, great video.

i think this is some of your best content. you seems so much happier whenever you engage in marvel snap over other card games. I like it.

Personally, I like piling up the near-5k creds then upgrading all my greys, then greens, and so on until I run out of creds and do it again. Sort of a weird, organizational thing in my brain. Any new cards that show up are little nuggets of excitement. I definitely agree with the notion some people have mentioned here to simply ignore your rank, focus on the match at hand, and experiment with decks. Hell, the first 'gimmick'(?) deck I made shortly after getting through the tutorial phase was building a Guardians of the Galaxy theme deck, then built around those cards. It's fun and to each there own... Thx Jeff!

Fair points! Also, if you play this game daily you already get around 4000 credits a week, and that's only considering credits from daily and weekly quests and the 50 daily credits in the shop. Number goes higher if you take into account the season pass, events, etc. By waiting at CL 214 and 474 until you reach the 5000 credits cap, you can gain at most 8-9 days of staying in the same pool. That's maybe gonna garantuee you a few more games against people in the same pool, but that's not always certain (I was in pool 2 until this morning and I faced people with Ultron, Sera, Patriot decks...; like Hoogland said, other factors like MMR are taken into account) and a season only last 1 month anyway, so even if you think you could have won more if you hadn't leveled up, next month you'd be down 30 ranks and inside pool 3 anyway.

Thank you. As someone who was really enjoying this game and now struggling and finding it really hard.... i really enjoyed this video. Its good to hear a different point of view... I'm not sure what I've done to make it so difficult for myself. But clearly there is something. You made me feel better about increasing my collection level.

I'm a qualitative Researcher by day and I really appreciate the small, albeit important, bit of research you did with the community with the players experience on ladder. People tend to think there's only one type of data (quant) and I really enjoyed you bringing that piece up. Ty :) Experience and context are just as important as a statistically significant number.

I tried to reachh infinite roughly at collection level 400 and it was very hard. Starting in the late 80s I faced more and more pool 3 players and in the end I only reached into the 90s and not infinte. But I also held back my CL cause I enjoyed pool 2 meta and knew that I won't get it again once I rank up. I also stayd in pool 1 a bit longer, just to really engage in each pools meta. Was very fun, but now I'm glad I've hit pool 3 and started to get new refreshing cards

Thanks for this video and the reminder to "Have fun!". As a brand new player I've been devouring content and was considering limiting my collection level. For now at least, I'll play normally and try to master the basics. This video and the "Top 5 Decks for First Week Players" made me a subscriber. Thanks!

I absolutely needed this video, thank you! I started a second Marvel Snap account a few weeks ago for the sole purpose of suppressing my collection level and ranking up because of the FOMO you mention at the end of the video, and I gotta say - I found ranking up absolutely NO easier! So I think you're 100% correct about all this. In fact, because I thought it 'should' be easier, I found the whole exercise even more frustrating, if anything. And I wasn't enjoying it. Luckily I only did it for a couple of weeks but I've now abandoned that fledgling second account and gone back to my main account, and am enjoying playing again (and ironically ranking up a little more, though it's not my focus at all) :) I also love your comment about how higher pool/series cards aren't necassarily 'better' than pool 1-3 cards, they're just 'different' - I needed to hear that too, as I get frustrated with content creators saying the best decks have this card or that, which I don't have. Thank you! Liked and subscribed!

I think the main thing with the last season is that most people didn't start on day one, I for example only had six days before it ended. Giving me very little time to learn the game, collet the cards and rank up. Hit gold 46 by the end but had loads of fun getting there. Yeah was gutted I didn't get the venom back but I got the season pass so got the Spidey one so not to sad. Already doing much better this season, don't forget a lot of peeps out there played beta so some will have full collections and lots more experience. But like anything in life we learn and improve each time we win or lose.

Brilliant video. The end message was absolute gold. I've just asked you in another of your videos which cards I should upgrade next and after watching this, the end part specifically, I'm just gonna upgrade the ones I like. Thanks again Jeff. 😊

Awesome video, i really apprecite your advice about fomo, mood, and enjoying the game at the end of the video, thank you for your honesty and friendly advice!

I kinda did this when I was going from pool 1 to pool 2, but the main reason I stopped was because the game became more fun and interesting when those pool 2 cards came in. I was kinda worried to get into pool 3, so I did save up a bit beforehand. But i now that I’m facing pool 3 people, they don’t have fully formed meta decks. They have decks like mine: mostly normal with a couple of pool 3 cards. People are too obsessed with winning. I want to have fun. Playing with and against new cards is fun. Losing is a part of life. Deal with it

I’m at collection level 390 and facing decks with pool 3 cards. It’s been a learning curve to adjust to. A lot of back and fourths on the win, loss, retreat scale. Appreciate the snap content.

Really appreciate this info! I can admit that I was suckered into that info some time ago but luckily gave it up just to have fun with messing around with new decks!

As someone who has been sitting at the top of Pool 2, was ranked 91 before the reset and just capped at 5k today...I definitely encountered plenty of pool 3 at the top of pool 2, so just go ahead and enter pool 3. I agree with this advice!

This was exactly what I needed to hear and when I needed to hear it. Well done!

I watched that video your referencing. Thanks for clearing it up. Much appreciated!

Thanks for being awesome, sir. Always appreciate your content and knowledge. I'm having a blast with SNAP. I will admit that I sat at 474 until I hit 5k credits. I did it to collect as many pool 3 cards at once to form some sort of deck. I did get Dr. Doom to add to me current deck and am having fun with him. :)

Thanks for calling things like this out and offering to be called out if needed. We need more of this. Great video and message.

Also can be fun to save up credits and spend them all at once, getting multiple infinity splits,, unlocking a bunch of new cards at once... The slow climb is fun in its own way since you get cards a bit slowly and can actually play and experiment with each new card for a bit

I needed this video so bad! Thank you m8! Love the content.

I left a comment on that exact video and one of the points I made was that if you're holding off building your collection level just to avoid harder opponents, then just don't play the game then. Because you're going to inevitably end up in pool 3 or get bored living in pool 1. The only reason I'd suggest to avoid raising collection level is if the season is ending soon. To veteran players who knows what every card does it might seem silly, but learning all the pool 3 cards for a new player in a couple of days might be a bit much. Wait for the reset then push and learn!

I've been playing and watching content for for about two weeks. Your channel helps me enjoy the game for sure. Hope it pays cause your doing a very professional job.

Thanks you Especially the last messsage. I'm now trying to let the ranking stuff go and focus on collecting cards, which I came to the game for.

I watched those and I followed them and I stopped building I had 4k saved on credits but eventually started fighting pool 3 decks but my pool 2 was limited, at that point I knew I wasted time not boosting my collection power, subscribed because of this video thank you

@nickyminaj709

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It doesnt work like that today, u wont fight againts pool 3, if u still in pool 1 or 2. And its more simple to climb rank with only pool 1 cards. Its a Fact for now, if u want to climb rank stay on pool 1. But its a damn boring game to play only with pool 1 cards.

I like the challange of hitting the next rank up. I went from 52-58 and back to 52 so many times before I finally broke 60 it was a roller coaster. And now I’m doing it to 70 but a little less dramatic because I’ve learned to retreat more and snap at better times. Also, I don’t mind playing against higher pool decks then I have because it’s exciting. Don’t have to see Electra, iceman, nova openers every single game

thanks for all the info its really good to know all of this to prepare for the future

I think ultimately it doesn't really matter all that much. As you said, I don't think there's an advantage in the sense of "you'll only be playing against noobs/you won't be playing against stronger decks". I did basically max out at pool 1 and then pool 2 in my first season and was able to hit infinite by the end, so it worked for me. That being said, I think it worked more in the sense that there was a more limited amount of cards I was facing against, so I would say that while I wasn't facing "weaker" decks, it was a lot easier for me to gauge what my opponent was likely to be running and what their options were, which was useful information when trying to determine whether or not I should be snapping/retreating. Also just as a new player I felt like it really helped me get familiar with the basic strategies and build a solid foundation before moving on to the higher pools. I was still enjoying the early meta and learning the different matchups, and felt like even by saving up to 5K I was still moving on to the next pool before I had really grown bored with the cards I had. I will say that particularly in pool 2 you can definitely run into some early pool 3 decks, but honestly it was an incredibly rare occurrence for me. The only time I really got wrecked by it was when I went against a cerebro deck and lost 8 cubes to a build I didn't know existed. I don't really think one way is necessarily better, more just personal preference on whether you want to save up and spend all at once with a bunch of new options, or if you want to gradually get more cards added to your collection. I will say though that I really, really don't think that anyone should be robbing themselves of potential credits in order to stay in a lower pool. At that point I think you kind of need to ask why you're playing the game. Just purely from an experience standpoint, if you make to 5K credits and still feel like you're not ready to move on to the next pool, then competitive probably is not for you. Now that I'm in pool 3 I think I'll likely just be spending credits as I get them, as things have really opened up and I find myself wanting to try out more new cards and strategies..

Thanks for the video…I actually watched the videos you referenced a few days ago and had a similar thought on the 2nd video…he actually calls himself out in that video very briefly too for the first one so he was aware of the irony there. As for strategy leveling up CL I’ve settled on waiting until I have 1500-ish credits so I can take a card from Common to Infinity split. I like seeing the progression of the cards all at once so I can decide where to stop the split (for instance, the orange boarder of Legendary pops on a card that has orange in it). Silly? Maybe, but basically agreeing that people should do what is fun for them.

I agree with your perspective. Also, too, enjoy the slow drip of rewards. I enjoy working a card I have been looking forward to into a deck I have or building a new deck around it.

The last point is so key. In EVERY ranked game of any type, most folks are somewhere in the middle of the skill curve. Enjoy the game, and continually try to get better. Even when I lose in this game I'm still having fun, and sometimes I just smirk at a well played move by my opponent.

Also worth mentioning that the rewards you get from climbing ladder is pretty small compared to the rewards you get from daily missions and other constant sources. Even if this trick worked you'd need to ask yourself if holding off on gaining new cards is worth those few extra credits/gold you get each month from ladder.

I thought this idea was nuts. Worked my way up to infinite starting from scratch on launch day. Seems insane to cut yourself off from all the fun cards just for a marginal advantage anyway. Currently running Black Panther + Zola combo deck. Grabbing many 8 cube rounds since people rarely see it coming.

Yeah, I think holding off is mostly bunk. I went to like the 490s before hearing the advice, but was mostly facing mostly pool 2 decks. I probably surprised a few folks with an unexpected Doctor Doom, and I'd see a few decks with some pool 3 cards, but I wasn't really facing full collection Death/Wave or Wong Ongoing or anything like that. I've started to see a few more pool 3 decks after getting up past CL 600-650, but high 400s and low 500s didn't really feel that different from mid 400s.

Subscribed for vids like this. Thank you!

The reason I hold at a certain level is because of the quests. There are quests that require you to level up. I hate that those can tend to bottleneck my progress by not freeing up the quest space. I try to carry around 2k as my floor level.

I am considering doing this at the end of pool 2, but not for competitive reasons. the reason I am considering it is to gain a whole bunch of P3 cards at once, therefore improving my chances of actually drawing into cards I want to use. I only have a few cards left and still no agent 13, no shang chi and no infinaut (not having shang chi being the biggest kicker) I'd like to avoid this happening again if possible, so gaining as many cards at once will at least give me some stuff I can use. Also I am just learning the game still, and staying in pool 2 to get better seems logical. If I jump right into P3 then I'm going to have a ton more cards to learn, before I even know the pool I'm in properly. If I was to do this however, it would actually go against my usual style of play in a collecting game. I usually want to keep a steady flow of new cards coming in, as the collecting is a large part of the game for me. So with this in mind I am still on the fence about what to do.

@pinobluevogel6458

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As I think Jeff correctly stated during the video, staying in pool 2 doesn't give you a whole lot, outside of having a whole bunch of goodies saved up to open all at once. The delayed gratification (while a healthy thing for humans) can be worth it, but it has very little effect on the opponents you face. I can only speak for myself and from what I've heard from my friends, but I haven't noticed any difference in the quality of opponents moving from pool to pool while leveling up. I was in the beta a bit earlier, so I faced a lot more bots, which makes ranking up easier. Now though, I hardly notice any difference with the new influx of players, apart from having less bots.

While not perfect I feel the matchmaking for the most part is adequate. After the patch I have certainly noticed matches of pool 2 players facing those of those pool 3. As to one progressing their account that's an individual choice made. I feel progression should take place when you become comfortable with the environment. I currently have 4 non smurf accounts and have had no problem climbing the ladder as well as completing dailies. The more you play the cards " the easier it becomes to make your choices". Not to mention the wealth of information you impart to people on a daily basis. Navigating pool 1 & pool 2 decks against pool 3 decks is not an impossible task. Just like in cooking " sometimes less is more ".

Hey Jeff, loving the snap content! I started out watching you test jeskai nahiri in what looked like someone’s basement a while back. I was pretty heavy into mtg at the time. Then I had twins……

Love how the title of this video is anti-clickbait. No burying the lead or implying something that isn't technically true or whatever; just the whole point and thesis of the video summarized.

I've watched the first video you mention, and I believe it raises a valid point. Waiting in pool 2 does force the match making system to pair you with pool 2 opponents, and at that point you can basically play in a sub-meta. Now, the guy from the video claim that playing in that limbo is easier because you can spend more time refining your strategy in a sort of playground. Even if - as you say - by design there are no cards strictly better than others, it is also true that with a much larger pool finding a winning strategy for the game and the meta-game is a much more complex problem. That said, I ultimately agree with your critic. Some points against his argument: 1. As you say, also the MMR comes into play. You don't really play against weaker opponents. 2. By my experience and my tests, you get matched with people who have “approximately” your same collection, and I think that the jump from pool to pool is not so steep as he claims. When I was at the top of pool 2 I got matched against opponents with some cards from pool 3. When I was in the middle of a pool I was matched with opponents with very similar decks, I rarely saw decks with more than 6 cards that I didn't own. 3. Most importantly, waiting at the end of pool 2 is boring …

So something I've learned in these first few weeks of playing marvel snap is to simply ignore my rank. Like, I'm not playing to get rank and get to infinity, for now I'll just focus on getting the cards and evolving my collection, once I get several cards from pool 3 then I think if I'm going to play to get rank or for fun (I'll probably keep playing for fun)

As someone who did not play in the beta, but has played a ton of card games in my career. As I reached ranks around 85 last season I started play tons of pool 3 collections despite only being pool 2 myself.

Made it to the end 😁 thank you for all the content mate! I'm one of the people who likes to keep their credit for massive upgrade. Currently at around 3k credits 😃

I'm about to complete pool 1 and i was wondering this...... Thanks man!!!!!!

I watch a lot of videos on your channel and the other one you mentioned. He went on in later videos to walk back some of what he said, suggesting his "It's a Trap!" video was potentially part of the problem. Both of you guys are some of the best Snap creators, so I don't wanna' be too hard on him. That being said, everything you've said here is true. I'm in early Pool 3 and find myself queuing into the same small group of players anymore. I just assumed a lot of people were staying back to try and hit infinite. Hopefully that changes soon.

So what I’m did is sandbag at the end of the season so I could push a higher rank for credit rewards without having to learn any of the pool 2 cards. Now that the season is over I will be upgrading to max so I can experiment with cards and stuff. Anecdotally once I stopped upgrading my collection I started winning a lot more. I don’t necessarily think it was because of easier MM but there is also the benefit of getting to micro optimize your deck without needed to adjust to changing card pools. The way I see it increasing your collection level will introduce variance which perhaps on average doesn’t impact winrate but if you’re having success with a deck that won’t necessarily get better with the addition of new cards there’s no reason to add a complicating factor.

in a recent video also hooglandia said something close to,”don’t optimize the fun out of the game” and that alone helped me the most. end of the day it’s a game and a mobile one at that, if you don’t like playing with a movement deck even if it’s ‘meta’ then don’t play it(: (I know movement deck isn’t meta just an example) same goes for holding back on upgrading cards and such though, even though it’s optimal to get all to green then wait till you enough to get it to infinite, that’s boring just upgrade what you like and get variants if you like it enough. bound to get every card eventually, have a fun time along the way

I 100% agree with everything Jeff said in this video. I live in the Philippines so I have been playing since beta launch. Since Global release I have made 3 F2P accounts and I have made it to Infinite on all of them with all Pool 1 decks. Before getting to infinite I have faced players with pool 2 and 3 cards. Even if the strategy did work, you are robbing yourself the opportunity to learn the game. Only facing easy players will not help you at higher levels. Biggest mistake I see players make is overextending into one lane, and committing to lanes too early.

Idk man, as soon as I got my first pool2 card I started facing decks with all pool2 cards… kind of got me afraid of getting my last pool 2 card and start facing the full Meta pool3 decks KZreadrs keep posting on here that are “absolutely broken”. Before I got my first pool2 I got to 70 all vs pool1 opponents, after I entered pool2 I was lucky enough to get sunspot/infinaut and that took me to 81 for zany season. I was happy there now at 463 with 1900 credits saved cause I don’t wanna face Sara/surfer or DeathPool decks without having access to those cards. Maybe it was different for you since nobody started playing months before you as is the case for some of us. Not saying it makes getting to infinite any easier, post 80 the matchmaking gets brutal, but it is something to consider. I liked the vid btw, keep it up! ❤️

I, for one, appreciate having picture-in-picture via Jeff's glasses. 😄

I'd say it depends how much the weighting of collection level matters. If it takes a LOT of rank to offset the low collection level, then perhaps it would face you against easier opponents. Eg. High MMR pool 1 can only face mid MMR pool 2. But it all pales to literally just playing the game for fun! Think that often gets lost not just in games with rank tied progression, but any game that has rewards tied to gameplay.

I waited to go into pool two because the most painful part of the game is playing against cards you don’t know and don’t have yourself. Waiting let me minimize that period of not having cards. Knowing when and how to snap is greatly dependent on knowledge of the card pool. Playing more with that base pool was helpful and fun. I NEVER encountered a pool two deck before I passed level 214. I did encounter very skillful players and peaked at level 69. When I went into pool two (with 5,400 credits) I got enough cards to build the better version of devil dinosaur. It was great.

I did slow down for a few days at the top of pool 2 for just a few days (didn't cap it) but I liked being on the same collection capability as others for a bit. I did have some frustration after moving forward until I got a few lucky pulls but I am having fun with it now.

I will say that I kept myself in pool 1 intentionally because I ran out of credits around that time and I wanted to save up credits for quickly leveling in pool 2 (side note, I had no idea there was a credit cap until this video). The games WERE a lot easier before I pulled the trigger on pool 2. Just win after win with kazoo.

Jeff “I have a video for that” Hoogland is truly the best overall content creator for Snap

What is a good pool 2 deck to go toe to toe in pool 3?

Another banger Jeff. I think you're the best Snap content creator right now by far!

I got to infinite this season while I was in pool 2 and I was playing people with tons of pool 3 cards around 80-infinite And started seeing them at around 60-70. Lowkey makes me feel a little better to know rank also plays into matchmaking because I feel a little more accomplished.

good video, i also ran into pool 3 decks when i was in pool 2.

I really appreciate the point at the end about maintaining enjoyment in the game, not having FOMO on ranked rewards and approaching the ladder with a healthy mindset. Not doing these thing is what ruined Hearthstone for me - getting to place where all I cared about was “ranking up.” Consciously approaching SNAP differently and it’s so much more enjoyable. I think the fun is building decks, trying different cards and progressing the collection. Echoing what you already said really well - thanks for the content!

Hi. Do the thoughts in this video still apply to someone that is in pool 1 as an Infinite player? I ask because I just got there and I've been saving credits. I notice that once I hit Infinite the queue times are much longer. I guess I have nothing to lose though? Just curious as I'm a new player looking for some more advice and this video is from 5 months ago. Thanks in advance to any that answer.

I never comment on videos (forever lurking and thumbs upping 😁) but I felt compelled to commend you on your spirit and message here. Well done, good sir. 🤘🏼

as a dnd creator I enjoy says, “having fun is optimal”

I appreciate you taking the time to clear up this misinformation!

which headset you use? I can see its a beyerdynamic

Here’s my experience, while below collection level (cl) 610 I was facing mirror opponents all the time, ongoing, odin and dinos everywhere… But after cl 610, out of nowhere my opponents have new portraits, playing cool pool 3 decks, which I really don’t mind, I want to play vs cool decks and skilled opponents, but what bothers me is that most of my opponents are now BOTS! I’ve asked second dinner about the bot system, no response… I wish I could have stayed below 610… I’m now 1100+ and bots are still the majority of my opponents.

I'm a new player so I'm gonna be in pool 1 for some time anyway but in my experience watching many Snap content creators when they're playing on streams their Pool 2-3 opponents always using the same meta decks they show on their channels while in Pool 1 you can do silly decks to have fun and still win without worrying about meta decks and players that escaping battle every time they didn't get the card they needed on turn 3 because that's apparently how games work now...

Great message!

Right now I'm sandbagging to 5k+ because I heard about the upcoming collectors tokens and I don't want to spend tokens to level right before they get added, I want to get some tokens early so I can pick up a card or two that I've been hoping to open until now. I had not been sand bagging before, just leveling as fast as I could manage with a low budget (but not f2p anymore). And in general my goal is still to get to collection complete as fast as I can. I also haven't had any real trouble with climbing, though I didn't hit infinite last season I believe it was just a lack of time/matches, and not my winrate. I was still going up fast in the final days of the season.

Thanks for making this. I’ve definitely been playing “the game.” Got 30+ upgrades. Ready to collect prizes now

This is accurate. Im currently in pool 2 collection level 460 and have reached rank 70 and now that i am in rank 70 i keep getting matched with infinite players that have many pool 3 cards as stated by their title "herald of galactus" which is this season's infinite rank reward.

Pool 1 I made it to infinite spent my 5k credits almost back in pool 2 after reset. I have no seen any other cards besides pool 1 when I was there or 2 now, I understand I could still make it if I went into pool 3. I understand that there are counter cards given early and can be used effectively. My argument too stay is the “meta” is so defined in pool 1 and 2 I don’t need to have a counter deck, I need to know what’s most successful pkay that and counter the other possibilities. Pool 3 really opens the door for like you said “wacky” and unseen things. If I’m trying to max rank consistently it’s a lot easier to do in a well defined meta where I don’t have to run a counter deck for stuff I have never played against. You did say it well when you talked about it being a game and just have fun and enjoyment, but I enjoy winning and getting the top stuff so I will continue until I have 5k again then dive into pool 3 but not until I hit infinite again. Thanks for the video.

I‘ve started to postpone opening collector caches so I don‘t get Pool 3 opponents with full collections as long as possible - but I keep increasing my rank, when credits allow. I‘ll see whether I keep this up, but fttb, I prefer being able to predict better than with all the wacky shit I possibly don‘t have.

when i was at pool 1, i was rushing trough the ranks, and as soon as i got the first pool 2 card, i started to get matched with ppl with full pool 2 decks wich was a pain. so now im at 474 to avoid pool 3 decks, at least that what i wish for. i was thinking about saving everything untill 20k at least, so i had a chance to get most of the cards at once but thats not posible? 😢

All I know is only fought pool 1 opponents up to rank 77. As soon as I upgraded my collection to 218, I immediately started seeing pool 2 opponents. If your on a time crunch I think it is worth it to stay in pool 1 as there are less things to think about when playing matches.

I did hold back my collection level at the end of a pool, but this was not with the purpose to rank up more, it was to learn the pool 2 cards, and experience playing against others with access to the full pool as well, since I had used money to accelerate my way to that point. I still got to see some cards from pool 3 to ease myself into it, from agent 13 etc. Once I hit cap I got to use all my credits at once which was also enjoyable, and not just be 1 or 2 cards into pool 3. Playing against any card in the game. I would agree if you're doing it just to rank up, you're doing yourself a disservice, but I enjoyed doing it the way I did.

I’m mid pool two and a couple of days ago, i went on a winning streak and all of the sudden i started getting matched up against ultron patriot decks, agatha, dare devil pr. X and other shenanigans, and here i am playing jessica jones and iron man, i got genuinely pissed off. I lost 2 ranks before it went back to devil dinosaur and ongoing decks. So it seems that mmr is a part of the matchmaking system. And btw, i thought the same thing about that content creator, no need to mention his channels name

Totally agree man gotta rank up staying in pool 1 or 2 would be sooooo booooooooring. I also spend my credits asap and I use My gold to Buy more missions to plow through that weekly challenge rewards because getting a new card is like Christmas indeed. Only time I might save credits is to maybe upgrade a specific card to infinity rank. The ladder reward system does kinda irritate me sometimes…I can’t get to 70 rank I’m always stuck in the 60s each season 😢

Thank you for making the video, keep up the good work! Are you able to debunk this question of mine? Does the game give booster to lower tier cards more often than high tier cards or is it not true at all?

@HooglandiaSnap

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Previously the game favored giving boosters to green/Grey cards. It was changed in the last patch to favor cards with less than 20 total boosters though.

@casualberoi3146

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Thank you! Looking forward to more game plays, it helped me understand how a deck is supposed to be played.

I love your videos, and am a regular in your twitch streams. One thing I see how people get frustrated is newly entering pool 3 (CL 690 rank 42) and facing opponents (you, infinite) that have full collections. It's happened a few times in your streams and just feels bad especially with the "grind" that pool 3 can be. That being said, I used one of your pool 2 decks into pool 3 and was able to reach infinite! My thoughts are more to do with the "feel" and less with the impact on win or loss.

@HooglandiaSnap

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One sentiment I often see is people assuming just because their opponents have pool 3 cards they have full collections. Like obviously when you hit me - you know that is the case - but reality is most people have similar hodgepodge collections for a long while. I did as well.

On the other hand, what is your feeling on slowing progress/not spending credits quickly to only advance cards you enjoy the art for/playing with toward getting their infinite splits? I’ve got a Nightcrawler variant that I love and I’m slowly but surely trying to get it to infinite :)

@aliittayem2244

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That’s what I’ve been doing as well, only using credits on the artworks I want to split and saving credits for some cards for possible future variants

@DuncanMolloy

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Having watched Jeff's content for months now, I think it's fair to summarise his take as "Do things that are fun for you, and don't do things that aren't fun for you". I spent my credits on anything I could, but once I hit a depth in pool 3 I was happy with I started prioritising nice variants and getting all the cards in specific decks to the same level of upgrade.

Best snap channel out there no competition!

I definitely got frustrated with game during the beta. Then I just had to learn how to let go & enjoy. I still haven't hit infinite & I am still hooked and enjoying what I do get.

I knew I wasn’t crazy…at the end of pool 2 I was holding back getting to pool 3 until I hit the next 10 level rank and played against pool 3 cards multiple times. My buddy didn’t believe me

I find it strange from a game-design perspective to include both a separate, visible "rank" and an invisible MMR. Having a hidden metric that affects your matchups that is distinct from your rank (which includes tangible rewards) is understandably going to make people want to find ways to game the system, or at least, worry that their own play and progression is sub-optimal and feel less like they can just try to play the game as well (or as enjoyably) as they can. What's the reasoning for having two distinct "skill" ratings?

I jumped right into 2 and 3 with zero issues. Even getting the lesser cards from my first few grabs, like Hazmat and Yellowjacket, I've been able to still use pool 2 decks with a good winrate.