Vulcain watches could be so great, but they're not |
The Skinny: Vulcain used to be great. Yes, the market for their vintage models is extremely competitive because, back in the day, they were extremely interesting and well built watches. In fact, they practically invented the modern alarm function in a wristwatch. Fast forward to today and Vulcain still makes some great watches worth owning. But unfortunately, those great watches are sandwiched between mediocre offerings and clear corporate indecision. It's a shame to see such a classic manufacture live in a valley, with their peak far behind. But there's hope...
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The Vulcain Cricket was good enough for Steve McGarett on Hawaii 50.
I was given a Vulcain Tachymeter watch when I was 12 years old I still have and I am 63. It is a handwinding movement with a panda dial. 17 jewel Incabloc, 37mm. I wore this watch all through my youth, basketball, football, skiing, climbing trees, racing, i will never sell it.
Thanks good info on the brand and i do agree.. so what would be advisable as a vulcain watch to buy now days not vintage in there line up?
Great info imparted on the concept of branding. I like Vulcain, owned one for a time. I hear they are on the ropes, that they laid off nearly half their staff. I would hate to see them go away. Most product manufacturers are not fortunate enough to create a recognizable product name like the "Cricket". Too bad they are going to fritter it away.
@TheoandHarris
7 жыл бұрын
Sad to hear!
This was well articulated. Although, as several others have commented, the content of the piece doesn't actually map onto the title. Nevertheless, his points seem to me spot on. Vulcain is a cool brand that should do more to make that known. Narrow the offerings, articulate the narrative, and, for god's sake, fix the website. Appreciated the vid.
@latina3954
4 жыл бұрын
Hugh Marlowe I agree so much with what you said!
Wasn’t the “cricket” brand name sold to Revue Thommen many years ago, in the 1970s and they made different models including a 1997 special edition, however Revue Thommen went bankrupt in the mid 2000s and sold the “cricket” line back to Vulcain, and the rest to Grovana, which in turn sold off Revue Thommen to a private equity group in 2014.
@a.i.5088
4 жыл бұрын
exactly it was the Revue Thommen that actually sold the watch. Google MSR, they are a joint group of Revue Thommen, Vulcan, Marvin, Phenix. I believe the movements were made by vulcain but the watch the presidents were wearing were actually a Revue Thommen branded watch. And also Revue Thommen is now back in Grovana Group.
@tlevans62
4 жыл бұрын
@@a.i.5088 I have a RT Cricket in my collection, as well as a RV Aviator watch.
Greatness as branding and pedigree are concerned. Brilliant points, and exactly the detailed concepts that us real watch guys get hung on!
What is the watch in the watch check here?
I had seen Vulcain watches but didn't know anything about them. Also Chrisitan I sent you a message on facebook about a listing on ebay, it's a simple question. Hope you can find the time to answer. Thank you and great video!
I get ckose to pulling the trigger on one of their alarm watches so many times but get put off by the movement being too small for the case... which is inexcusable if you've been making the same watch for so long
Great vid, Christian. A vintage Vulcain is nearly impossible to date since their archival lists are as incomplete as their website is navigatible. Along the bumpy, twisting research trail (I have a Vulcain pocket watch), I read somewhere that many of their business issues had to do with microcosmic racism i.e. resentment between Northern and Western Swiss--I kid you not.
@tonyr669
2 жыл бұрын
Thats seems to be ethnocentricity rather than racism. Lol
Rolex also changed the name of the iconic Cosmograph, to the Cosmograph Daytona. I enjoyed your perspective on the Vulcain. Thanks for your content.
u know so much....i am very jealous!😚 btw Vulcain should opt ur opinions and make them work! good info,@Christian!🤗
what are the best easy to service Vintage watches? I've been wanting to get one but my budget us very small right now probably less than 100usd if it's cheap to service or up to 150 if its already service. I know probably unrealistic but just wondering.
@TASCOM44
7 жыл бұрын
Check out vintage seiko
Even today, their website is totally useless.
Just seen this brand for the first time today and you are absolutely correct, it is such a nice brand but so much they are doing is not helping themselves. Starting with their website like you say it is shocking, maybe they have no money to invest there as they have spent it all in devolping their watches. Real nice watches though.
well, they stop once and they are now stoping again. Very nice complication, but in my opinion they should ahve work on the alarm sound to have a cricket but also a nicer ringing tone for everyday use. a little expansiv and now that an investment has an after sales issues...
As of this minute you have 8888 subscribers. Congrats!
@TheoandHarris
7 жыл бұрын
Ayyyyy!!!!
I just heard they are up for sale! An opportunity?
@TheoandHarris
7 жыл бұрын
Definitely!
They have a "Herbie Hancok" model 160551.302L. That is funny.
An important thing - the first US President that was presented a Cricket by Vulcain was Barack Obama. Prior to this: Truman - White House News Photographers Association Eisenhower - Nobody really knows, but Michel Ditisheim (last remaining link to the original Vulcain) states clearly that Vulcain under Ditisheim never presented a watch personally to a US President prior to. Johnson - Same story, but he became such a fan that he had his aids scour the Geneva area buying (rumors have it) up to 200 pieces. Johnson later presented these to various people, including Secretary of Defense McNamara Nixon - Received his as a thank you from the National Association of Watch and Clock Makers for a speech he gave. Ford - Received his as a gift from the Paajanen family who with the help of Michel Ditisheim ordered 100 Crickets (that at that time were made under the Revue Thommen label). The dials are marked Vulain, the case backs, crowns, straps, buckles and even packaging are marked Revue Thommen. Ford received his while visiting Helsinki after leaving office. Carter - Received his as a gift from the Paajanen family who presented it to him at the US Ambassador's residence in Helsinki. Reagan - Received his while on a brief stop over in Helsinki prior to a summit in Moscow. The watch was forwarded to the US Embassy by the Paajanens. Bush - Received his from the Paajanens. Clinton - Received his from the Paajanens. Bush (the younger) never received a Vulcain Cricket. Obama - Received 2 Vulcains: 1 Paajanen/Ditisheim model from the Paajanens, 1 Anniversary model from Vulcain. Trump - Received 2 Vulcains: 1 Paajanen/Ditisheim model from the Paajanens, and one from Vulcain. The actual model remains somewhat of a mystery. Biden - Received a stainless steel Paajanen/Ditisheim model from the Paajanens when he was Vice President. All photos in various blogs of him and his Cricket have misidentified both the model and the source ; ). Biden has not been presented a Vulcain Cricket from Vulcain in Le Locle. So far, he is the ONLY recipient of one of the Paajanen/Ditisheim Vulcain Crickets who was photographed (multiple times) wearing the gift.
Okay, last double JLC pronunciation video, pick one or the other, both are right IMO....Great vid and great content as always!
@TheoandHarris
7 жыл бұрын
Hahahha I'm all confused now!!
@jasonsawatsky2463
7 жыл бұрын
Theo and Harris lol, the last few videos when you reference the name JLC you say it both ways...
@datAero
7 жыл бұрын
It's Jaeger, not Yaeger, if we are being pedantic, both are not correct. See how they refer to themselves.
@datAero
7 жыл бұрын
I'm french lol, i guess if you're american, thats how you'd simplify it, its just a soft J, dont you guys have that sound in english?
Like your vids! You know your watches. Do you work from an outline? Sounds like stream of consciousness...👍
Harsh but fair
Show me the time pieces and discuss their features and comparisons with other timepieces
Damn, I agree with everything you said. Hitting "subscribe" now.
the benrus wrist alarm is better
Right on the money!
I want one.
Hey T&H, why is it watch brands of the past don't seem to die or go out of business? I've gotten heavily into vintage watches in the last year and every obscure watch brand i find has a website and they still sell watches! (all be it modern cheap versions of what they sold in the 60s,70s) A few examples are: YEMA, FAVRE LEUBA, NIVADA CROTON, Not only are they still around, there websites look like they were made in the late 90's and they make no effort to advertise anywhere? my question is how do they make a business in today's world? Are they living off the past success if indeed they even had any? Its almost like the name needs to live in somehow
its not about how theorteicly statisticly good something is, it is about the alchemy and this is why u r inferuir to us
Breitling says hi.
This brand has sooo much potential. Come on Vulcain. For God's sake, at least provide a way for people to search for an authorized dealer on your websites.
@waterfordrs22
Жыл бұрын
Unlikely there is a single AD. Around 2017 Vulcain was sold. That’s roughly the time this video was produced. Five years later, the lineup is quite paired down to the extent where there’s not much left. They seem to be operating under a similar model to the way the Airains and Lebois names have been revived. Covid might but have been kind to the transition. Seems as if they’ve moved and scaled down. The Cricket in two forms, several flavors each is about all they’ve got at the moment and none are available until December in batches of 100. Hindsight is 20/20. I’ve just come to learn about Vulcain, it would be interesting to learn a little bit as to where they’ve been since this was first posted.
I used to buy from a jeweler who had these watches, new and vintage. He had one gifted to him by Trump's campaign team since he was involved in the 2016 election as a volunteer. The watches are unique because of the cricket sound. They also have a history of being tied to past U.S. Presidents. But there are way better brands of watches at similar price points to the Vulcain Cricket.
VULCAIN is the one brand that really could be great again. Great video
@nathanmagnuson2589
2 жыл бұрын
They fixed their website and appear to be getting ready to produce watches again. I'm excited.
@ryantannehill2830
Жыл бұрын
I saw the new cricket last week and it was great looking.
Everything you just criticized about the brand makes me like them even more (I realize this video is old so don't know if they have changed).
Please cover their new releases
Yo Christian, I've loved your show for some time. I want to find out why no one seems to rate the Omega Globemaster. Tim Masso did a good review, but then he was trying to flog one in his shop. I know you're not into Speedys and love your vintage Seamasters. but you have nothing to say about the new Constalation, bar your video slating the one with the months complication. and it's not because you focus on vintage as you plug the Railmaster. i'm saving for either the Globemaster or the Fifty Fathems Batho... but feel that the much more affordable Globemaster (blue face, steel on a strap) is being dismissed as a DateJust homage. thoughts?
@TheoandHarris
7 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that watch!! Definitely plan on getting one to review in a video!!
@charlesingham7757
7 жыл бұрын
Excellent - I'm looking forward to it already
To the hardcore watch enthusiasts, they will know the connection with the "Cricket" to the US Presidents who wore them; however, I can understand how the average watch consumer would not know that and that this is just a way to get that narrative across. I don't necessary believe they're doing a good job executing that, but it doesn't completely not make sense either.
@jackeytam7700
6 жыл бұрын
I believe they should head in a micro brand direction like sinn and squale only the enthusiasts know what they are
Facebook just changed their name to Meta
Thought you were just going to bitch but you actually made really good points I agree with. Love the brand too and want them to fix the things you mentioned.
Vulcan is great. Period.
@TheoandHarris
7 жыл бұрын
I love alot about them!
LOL, they're impossible to follow. But who are they, where, why?
Christian for Vulcan CEO!!!!!!!
Hi Christian, I'm Muslim, nice review 👌
@yannthomas566
3 жыл бұрын
Took me 5 seconds to understand , good one
Their horrible website tells you everything you need to know about the brand. A sad case of underachievement and ridiculously poor business strategy
It was Revue Thommen watches with vulcain movement. Google MSR group. It was the Revue Thommen Cricket watch that were actually worn by the presidents.
Huh?
Vulcain are expensive.
@TheoandHarris
7 жыл бұрын
But second hand they can be hand around $3.5!
@samadrid6321
7 жыл бұрын
Theo and Harris That's a little better, don't know enough about the watches.
@9647245626
7 жыл бұрын
Theo and Harris really???😮😮😮
First of all why are you so mad and aggressive !! It takes from your credibility and from the idea you want to deliver to your audience ,now I handle one of their watches I own a cricket and I think it's one of the greatest watches out there and I think for the size of their production and how bad is the market for watchmaking nowadays they're doing ok ( if a great watch price go down in the market that's just a plus for me as a customer ) Relax
Their web site is still shit
Don't the watches cost 8000 dollars? That's not too affordable and at that price a little movement decoration would be more standard.
@TheoandHarris
7 жыл бұрын
But second hand they can be hand around $3.5!
Snowflake generation pms review.
pretentious guy
Vulcan is great. Period.