Thanks for the concise review. I will be considering this station now, along with the Quick 861DW.

Thanks dude, very extensive review and yes, I know what to buy next :o)

Nice review

Excellent review!

So great you took it apart.I wanted to se how it look inside before i buy a tool.Thanks

My old one still works fine. (similar brand to your old one) I did enjoy your review and will take it into consideration when I do have to replace mine. I would disconnect that buzzer for sure

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

buzzer was covered with some hot glue and is now less annoying.

This is a fantastic review. Sadly I already bought a Quick 861DW but I wouldn't have if I had seen this earlier.

@thetechgenie7374

4 жыл бұрын

It pretty much the same, even down to layout. Controller is different layout, but same 32 bit STM and motor controller.

@iorgaflorinelalin8940

4 жыл бұрын

sadly ? be happy you did the right thing.

Good one

Hope you get on well with it. It's so fast, but you need the station high up to avoid stressing the strain relief on the handpiece. Anything greater than 10% fan speed is too much

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

yeah it's kinda awkward for me because I have it sitting on the right side at bench level, like you said, having it higher above would work better but it's crowded above my bench 😁

Will going in with 500 to 550 degrees celcius to remove newer models Iphone cpu shield remove the shield quicker than using a lower temperature without damage?

Hi, I have got a question. I need the 220V version of the station because I live in Europe, but only the 110V version of the station is available on banggood. Is there any difference in the station besides the cable? So has the station both support for both voltages or has other hardware to be installed in the respective station?

It's great that they sent that too you. I bought the Quick station to replace an old unit from Circuit Specialists, right before packing up my lab. I've just gotten around to setting things up at the new house and hope to try out the Quick, I'll open mine up and compare it to the BEST. I like the BEST, except for the ugly/cheap looking logos and colors... I could get used to it for the price and capabilities :-)

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen how the quick 861 looks inside so far, it would be interesting to compare.

@thetechgenie7374

4 жыл бұрын

@@voltlog It pretty much the same, even down to layout. Controller is different layout, but same 32 bit STM and motor controller.

@simonspeaker

4 жыл бұрын

loll put a logo sticker of metcal hahahaha

Most videos I've seen have pointed out 1 unit adjustment. Cannot agree more! If that had rotary switches and perhaps 5 unit adjustment it would be perfect and I'd get one immediately. I've been planning on getting a similar unit of some kind. I with it was made more compact. Space at work bench is premium always. Still, so tempting and more power really makes a difference sometimes and accurate temperature reading (unlike my very compact cheapo) would be so great. I think Quick 861DW too has one unit adjustment resolution (but with real buttons that are bigger) and it is also pretty large and could be made smaller.

@sdgelectronics

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure what it is, but no one seems to be able to design the perfect station. The Metcal is almost perfect, but no auto power-down. This is almost perfect except the UI, same with the 861DW. Others are just too expensive for what they are

This works same like quick 861dw there is no any problem or tell me what is better between them please

Nice and thorough review as always from you. Probably best to have the main unit on a shelf above the bench, and only the nozzle down at the bench. Maybe they went with THT decoupling capacitors because they used THT already for the electrolytics.

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

yes, having the station above the bench is better and more ergonomic but not too high because the hose is not very long.

I wonder what the unpopulated pads are for on the display board? Maybe vacuum control? Overall, looks decent but could be optimized to be great. Can one lower the heating ramp rate? I don't like to thermally shock components, or maybe I should be holding the wand further from the target.....

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

I also wonder what the non populated pads are for..

I have read on the internet that this machine does not allow calibration. is this true? Do not let the temperature calibrate? THANKS I'm about to buy it at banggood. Is your link seller trustworthy?

I get an error A23 could you support me to know what it is?

Like to know your opinion on the Atten 862D. Equal to or slightly better than the quick I heard. Just hard to get.

Awesome video! I wanted to ask you, my pump is completely dead. Any advice what to look for? The heating works but obviously blowing up the thermal fuse in the wand. Everything else works when fuse is okay but nothing from the pump

@pr0xZen

2 жыл бұрын

It's been quite a while. Did you figure it out? If not, are you getting power to the fan at all?

@extrememod_ahu

2 жыл бұрын

@@pr0xZen I ended up selling it on eBay and got Quick 861DW instead. However, the guy who bought it, left this comment on how he fixed it: I found the problem (why the fan stopped working). It is all fixed now, very pleased. This was caused by the RoHS lead free solder. There had grown microscopic Tin whiskers around the fan connector terminals. Because of the high pulsed current of the fan motor. (this is what grows the metal crystals, very small and easy to miss). So it shorted the motor contacts and killed the fan driver IC. Replacement chip came from digikey, and it works now. (what they should have done is protected the terminals with a paint or other coating). Hehe so I hope you liked the story behind that.

Is there a way to calibrate the bst 863?

Hy ,where can we buy the heating element from, no parts available for now on any website for it !?

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

try contacting the sellers that offer the bst-863 station, I'm sure they will have access to spare parts.

Hello bst 863 vs quick 861dw or 861de? How next good ??

A rookie question would you recommend this air station to someone who is starting in microsoldering before others, for example: 1-quick 2008 2-ksger hot air 3-yihua 995d (baku, mechanic) or similar I understand that the best would be the quick 861dw and then the best bst 863 would follow, could you give us a top of the best or which would you recommend to start in microsoldering THANKS

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

It depends on the budget as well, because it you can afford the BST-863 get it from the start, you will get all the advantages from the start and you will save the money spent on the cheaper one that will probably be replaced later. If you cannot afford the BST-863 than you will have to go with one of the cheaper options with the fan integrated in the handle and I think any choice from the ones you listed would perform similar but inferior to the BST-863. It also depends on how much work you are going to with hot air, if you will use it rarely than it might not be worth it to invest in a good hot air station and instead it might make sense to go for a cheap one.

@giancarloramirezholguin4986

4 жыл бұрын

@@voltlog THANKS another question how important or how important are the wats (1200w power) if the machines all get above 480 degrees? Is it just a matter of time, that is, some will arrive at a certain temperature first? or affects other details that we do not know the newbies. For example between a quick 861 vs a cheaper machine what is it difference? THANKS per your time

I believe their is a way to set it to change in 5 degree increments but could be wrong

I bought this station 2 weeks ago. It looks basically the same inside but in my case the mains connectors were not loose at all. Instead they forgot to put in the resistor for the esd-socket to ground connection and the rubbermounts of the blower were not correctly fitted to the case. Still 5/5 rating from me. Super happy with it.

@TheFelix63

Жыл бұрын

is it possible to unsolder a mosfet without damaging it? If the max temperature is around 300 C, the component doesn't desolder quickly, with the risk of breaking it, right?

@V3T9

Жыл бұрын

@@TheFelix63 Max Temp you can set is 550°C

Hi, how it works after 4 months? Is it still great? What about noise? Can we buy parts for it?

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

still working like new but I haven't seen any parts sold, you should try contacting the distributors to ask if they can sell you replacement parts.

Looking at my Quick 861DW (Chinese model) It is very similar. I could send you some pictures of quick internals. Saw BST-863 soon after ordering quick and could not trust it without review like yours :)

Hi, you can add hot glue to the buzzer hole it will work quitter :)

I like the temp and air control switches on the Quick 861DW, but for the money saved I would probably have gone this route since it appears to be the same design. Also, 45 degree nozzles are available from other vendors.

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know what is it, but I always seem to prefer physical buttons and may continue to do so for my entire life even though we are slowly getting served with 100% touch controls.. That being said, I have to agree, for the money saved, I can live with the touch controls.

10:12 i need this tubine for my station coz it stop working....help if someone have one orknow were to get it please contactme

@mirrored_

4 жыл бұрын

at aliexpress

Great video! I actually bought this unit after watching it but to my big despair, when I turned it on it got hot but no air blow and now it doesn't even get hot and the temp stays at close to zero... Is that normal?

@voltlog

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think that's normal. I'm guessing either a problem with the pump or bad settings but the heater shouldn't be on with no circulating air, it might overheat and destroy itself. Maybe it got dropped during shipping? You should open it up and check.

@dimitryledin3996

3 жыл бұрын

@@voltlog yeah what happened was the pipe on the heater turned really red and then the temp went down to 0 so I fear it's beyond my skills of repair. The air did never flow. Completely silent. Just such a shame and I'm not sure if I should order replacement or ask for refund.

@extrememod_ahu

3 жыл бұрын

@@voltlog so I figured out what the problem was. It was the thermal fuse inside the wand. I changed it but it blew again. The wand heated up but there was no airflow. Is it the pump then?

@voltlog

3 жыл бұрын

@@extrememod_ahu You should check why the pump isn't turning on.

@pr0xZen

2 жыл бұрын

@@extrememod_ahu Thermal fuse blowing is _not_ the cause. It's a sympthom. It blows because there's no airflow so the heater element overheats (or it might be burnt out by now) - the thermal fuse is working as it should. I would suggest checking on all the wires, connections and solder joints between the blower fan and the the board. These fans are pretty durable parts, so it's more likely the fan gets no power rather than being broken. Also check the board for accidental solder bridges. However, this is obviously either a manufacturing defect or shipping damage. So this is on the manufacturer, seller and/or their logistics partner(s). I hope you requested a refund or replacement.

What it really matters in every hot air tool is the power of the heater and the ability to work on smd parts using high heat with the slowest air speed to prevent the tiny components from launching to nowhere.The exactly temperature adjustments is not so critical because every component on different pcb materials need different heating times and the rule is heat it up until the solder melts.

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

with this station you have it all

Thank you. It's very, very important to see the insides of any equipment before purchase, especially if chinese. I would definitely not consider buying anything that has not been approved by an intelligent DIY guy, no matter how much strangers praise it in onsite reviews.

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

I'm doing the same thing when I want to buy something new, I look for reviews and teardowns from someone that often deals with the subject.

@serialskeptic

4 жыл бұрын

@@voltlog 😁😁 I have identified a handful of people (like you) whose opinion I trust & value because their approach & attitude is similar to mine, and I know that I will never regret following their footsteps in choosing equipment. Thanks & Regards

Hi Florin, nice video! How does it hold after 1 year? Did you use it intenisvely?

@voltlog

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it's used every week at least once and after one year is as good as new. My only problem with this model is the rather short length of the hose which means you need to keep it close to your working area bench level. You can't really place it above on a shelf or anything like that. But for this price and performance that's something I can live with.

@DarthMaul41

3 жыл бұрын

@@voltlog Thank you, and keep up the good work!

@pr0xZen

2 жыл бұрын

@@voltlog TL;DR You can just replace the hose with a comfortably longer one you know..? Nothing special about it. With how powerful the fan is, if you use a small adapter in each end, you can use a thinner, more nimble hose too. - I did mine with 35 cm extra, in 15 mm (OD) silicone hose, just some AliExpress knockoff'ish of the blue Samco ones you see in 80% of tuner cars. Paid like $4/m including shipping. 11mm ID IIRC. 1 or 1.5 mm walls leaves too thin a wall with straight silicone being so soft, it kinks too easily (although this is generally less of an issue with the added length). I did use the type _without_ (!) thread armoring in the tube wall. The thread armored type is too stiff for this purpose IMO, in large part because they rarely come with wall thickness _less_ than 2.5-3 mm for this range of OD size hose. If you _do_ find thread armored silicone hose with 1.5 mm walls however, that would probably be ideal. It would not easily kink, and be near half the weight. Or you could step down to 13 or even 12 mm OD and get the same airflow. I did use very thin-walled coupling adapters though, to not add 2 additional airflow bottlenecks on top of the hose. I also scavenged some size and flexibility appropriate strain reliefs from an E-waste dumpster. Though, the original ones were a little too stiff for the smaller, softer silicone hose, at least at the handle end.

I wonder how this will work out for you on the long run - the whole thing looks extremely cheap, minimalistic and ugly, but still, it can be a reliable tool. Those oldschool caps are strange indeed, especially seeing them sitting near an SMD chip. Nice video as usual!

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

It certainly looks better than the older one or the other models currently available on the market so that inspires confidence that it could serve me well for years to come.

Looks like a good hot air station small amount costs. Use lump Blutack over the sounder hole, as the mass will reduce the sound more than tape.

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

I ended up using some hot glue 👍

At 11:21 in the video it looks like the power transformer is loosely mounted to the chassis, not very good QC.

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

thanks! The screws are not too loose, I had a go with a screwdriver and they turned maybe 180 degrees until tight so yeah it might be worth checking those if you get this station but I think the wobble you see is due to the thinner metal being used.

The high airflow is needed when working on heavy groundplane PCBs, I use 120 on my quick from time to time when fixing MacBooks. It looks like that is a copy of the Quick 861DW, apart from the touchscreen, they even copied the case design. I did a review of the Quick 861DW earlier this year.

@sdgelectronics

4 жыл бұрын

Agree, but you can feel the airflow 3 meters away 😂

@Todestelzer

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's obviously a copy of the Quick. I wonder how long it takes till they get sued for this lol. Even inside it looks identical to the Quick.

@sdgelectronics

4 жыл бұрын

@@Todestelzer I think it's all the same source, just different branding.

@MassimoFantinato

4 жыл бұрын

@@sdgelectronics i think too because also the screws are the same on quick and bst. But there are three more similar hot air station JABE 861D, NT-762E and nt-761DW. All of them with the same case.

why no shipping to UK

It would have been nice if you actually tested it on some circuit boards. Does it have enough power to remove large BGA packages from multi layer PCBs with lots of ground and power plains?

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

If this does not have enough power at 1200W then I don't know which station does better.

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

@@MatthiasWelwarsky yeah a back heater will help a lot and will prevent putting too much stress on the pcb and/or the BGA chip.

11:21 quando tocca il trasformatore si nota la grande solidità 😆

The entire time I was watching this, I was picturing Triumph, the Insult Comic Dog.

@Aethelbeorn

3 жыл бұрын

FOR ME TO POOP ON!

A user created a logic board swap to correct all the annoying things that BST did to make it less pleasant to work with. i will be soldering it together and purchasing a BST to install it on.

Don’t know why but the link says cannot ship to the United Kingdom.

188usd for the quick on Aliexpress

Did Banggood send you the item from China or from the EU warehouse?

@sdgelectronics

4 жыл бұрын

If you choose EU Priority Direct, it gets locally shipped once it's arrived from China with all the other shipments

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

I've got this shipped from the EU.

I don't really see the benefit over say my Yihua 2008D. It has pretty much the same features (including a holder with reed sensor for auto shutdown) but is a whole lot more compact, way cheaper and has a much better user interface with physical buttons and a big quadrature encoder wheel. It is also available from reputable sellers in Europe which means it comes with real warranty and tested electrical safety and looks much nicer, too. The massive hose on your unit would honestly annoy the crap out of me while the hand piece seems to be about the same chunky size. I also have a feeling that the cable on mine still offers longer range when I need it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

I would hate to have that fan in the handle and when it comes to performance this BST-863 will perform better in any way you can think off. You really need to try both to see the advantages or you might not see them at all because there might be things which you don't care about in which case it's better to stick with the cheaper unit because it already does all you ever need it to do.

@danielegger6460

4 жыл бұрын

@@voltlog I've used expensive versions of such units before and but even there the difference is not quite as extreme as you make it seem. The only real advantage of a professional version is the much lower noise level, but the hose is really a bummer compared to a flexible power cable; the performance is pretty much identical. With my Yihua I can also make 0603 (and of course smaller) fly away and heating up to 320°C takes only a few seconds. If I'd go for a station I'd take a combo which includes a pre-heater and some intelligence to automatically balance the heat; that makes a huge difference in reworking.

13:40 grounding to the handle is in series with the chassis. Typical.

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

I would be curious to see how that's done on the Quick 861DW (I would guess it's the same)

@bwack

4 жыл бұрын

@@voltlog good video btw!

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

@@bwack thanks!

@krellft

4 жыл бұрын

@@voltlog Check out Dave's video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gJOtqs2rhrzYcqg.html

For what it's worth, I just got one of these and my experience is not good, the blower motor would not run out of the box but it happily continued to supply current to the heating element anyway so while the motor controller doubtless knows that the motor is not running, this information is not shared or used by the main controller. The blower motor just whines like you would expect a jammed brushless motor that cannot start up to do, for just a few seconds, when the handle is picked up. It's not an expensive unit, but with no functioning blower and no source of parts that I can locate, it is money thrown away. I regret not buying the Quick.

It would be more useful if Banggood would send these units for free only in exchange for useful feedback on how to improve the product. Everyone sees their shortcomings, but the product remains the same...

man were are you based? you sound european

A copy of the quick unit. The handle is huge....

Oh look, weller. It has a fuse.

I don't like the units with fans in the hand piece either. It looks cheap... like crappy cheap.

@JanCiger

4 жыл бұрын

Try one, maybe if you don't buy the cheapest junker it won't look "crappy cheap". I have one of those (Atten 858D) and it certainly works well, even though it doesn't have as much power as this Best or the Quick. I have bought it to replace an older station that also had a thick hose like the Best in the video, because the thick stiff hose is extremely annoying on the bench when not in use. A thin cable to the handpiece on the Atten is much easier to manage. That's kinda important if you don't have a large bench and don't use hot air every day.

no thank you.....that's not alternative that is a copy of quick 861 series including the internal parts with a lcd panel why lcd ? you don't need . Best company is not that great i guarantee that will fail very soon if used daily as most of their products Starting with the fan noise is already a fail.

Banggood are good at sending free stuff to KZread creators but they treat their customers like rubbish. I would never spend that much money on anything from banggood it is not worth the risk, if it is not delivered good luck with their customer service! Beware of buying anything from banggood!

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

There is no risk involved if you pay with paypal, no matter what amount you pay or if you choose banggood's insurance service. You just open a dispute and you get your money back, every single time. Now if you choose to pay with a credit card and you don't take the insurance service, well you've accepted the risk.

@gregsmith2262

4 жыл бұрын

@@voltlog They closed my account because I had to lodge a dispute to get my money back. That to me is unacceptable after being a customer for many years.

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

@@gregsmith2262 I am a customer of banggood since before I had the youtube channel and when I had problems I disputed the payment through paypal and I easily got my money back. They did not close my account and even if they did I would have just created a new account and continued to order from their shop for as long as I thought it made sense to me financially and logistically.

@gregsmith2262

4 жыл бұрын

@@voltlog So you would be willing to do business with a company that has such customer service and recommend people buy from them? It is crystal clear where your loyalty is and it is clearly not with your subscription base, bit sad really. I think people should be cautious regarding companies where you have to open disputes via external services. Your view wouldn't be different if you were not getting free "gifts" would it?

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

@@gregsmith2262 I think you need to be real and acknowledge the fact that every online shop this size, especially ones from China have their problems and often those problems happen outside their shop, specifically with shipping services. If you were to exclude buying from these shops based on your criteria there wouldn't be any left where to order stuff. I just told you the solution to the problem but you seem to ignore the solution and focus on the problem only.

Cheap copy of the Quick. Would pay the extra money for the Quick. I can't afford cheap stuff. :)

You only make comercial and unpack videos now? If yes so pls answer then I quit my abo. It was a good channel, 1 year ago, but now, Bangood here, bangood there, It's enough now.

@robertomartin8731

4 жыл бұрын

He didn't even used it. He's shop will look like the other wood worker shop now like a showroom of equipment.

@madrian_hello

4 жыл бұрын

BYE.

Goodbye

@Thor_1872

4 жыл бұрын

Bye :D

OMG THATS STAF SHOULD COST NO MORE THEN MAX MAX 100$ WTF FULL OF PLASTIK THINGS CHEAP VERY CHEAP CINSTRUCTION NEVER WILL BUY IT THX FOR THE VIDEO I WAS THINK TO GET 1 IOF THES BUT NO NEVER

Kind of an ugly color scheme.

@voltlog

4 жыл бұрын

well now that you mention it, it's kinda cold and industrial but I'm not gonna complain about that when it's about tools.