Emergency meeting.... volition is dead... truly can't believe it. It's over... 🔴Follow me on Twitte... i mean X: x.com/xfl1ppyx
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@Flippy10 ай бұрын
made this vid in kind of a rush, I hope I can gather my thoughts and make a proper video but I've been pretty sick lately :/ still, all this fuss around the SR2 patch has me worried, i know a lot of you guys are left in the dark, but deep silver is reluctant on giving any info because they're starting to get cold feet on the whole thing. its still up in the air, but i just didnt want to be silent anymore, you guys really need an update of some kind.
@bioclassic2330
10 ай бұрын
Real
@xxNiceLeaderxx
10 ай бұрын
It’s all good man thanks for keeping up with the videos man!
@BOXER53
10 ай бұрын
Good we're better off
@kemosabe1313
10 ай бұрын
It's over, they're never going to patch it at this rate, it would be a waste of their time for a fanbase they've despised since sr4
@charlieroberts7031
10 ай бұрын
Just leak the patch for christ sakes!
@nottheo5councildataexpunge10 ай бұрын
“The saints legacy ends here,not with a bang. But with a whimper.” Killbanes quote hits a lot more close to home considering the current situation
@juniorjunior5884
10 ай бұрын
Killbane to volition "You didn't care about the crown, just the paycheck."
@cotyjackson7200
10 ай бұрын
Wow. Killbane WAS right.
@GeteMachine
10 ай бұрын
He was right. The Saints selling out to sell lunchboxes only for them to actually want dumb fast food toys as a plotline.
@compromisedreality8827
10 ай бұрын
it all hit the fan the moment SR3 was released.
@wackyclock
10 ай бұрын
killbane was such a great villain
@xxNiceLeaderxx10 ай бұрын
RIP Volition. Once a great company turned to ashes.
@RetryOfHealGuy
10 ай бұрын
RIP BOZOs
@junkolover9518
10 ай бұрын
Nobody could've seen it coming. All the CEOs are now in complete state of shock, trauma, disarray, and even diarrhea. The reason is still being researched by their best gaming scientists.
@_zigger_
10 ай бұрын
Rest in рiss
@thenoobgamer95
10 ай бұрын
@@junkolover9518LMFAO
@1r0zz
10 ай бұрын
@@junkolover9518 The horror is that you’re probably right…
@sirlimen33310 ай бұрын
"Idol Ninja's legacy is up to Deep Silver" Those are some ominous words there
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
All dat needs to happen now is for dem awful disgraces to be unlisted from digital stores and release source code of sr 2 publicly
@deptusmechanikus736210 ай бұрын
They should rename themselves to "Deep Shitter" with how great they handle their games and studios
@XanderWhovian
10 ай бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't earn themselves that title after Ride to Hell: Retribution.
@fredster594
10 ай бұрын
@@XanderWhovianTo be fair, Ride to Hell is so horrible that it's good. It's like The Room of the video game industry.
@MitchyBoi03
10 ай бұрын
Or maybe Deep Slither because they’re nothing but snakes.
@XanderWhovian
10 ай бұрын
@@fredster594 True, but, i think both The Room and Ride to Hell were lightning in a bottle for their respective mediums. The amazingness of them both could never conceivably carry over into any future projects, but the sheer level of shite-ness would remain. It's why we're most likely never going to see Tommy Wiseau direct a Star Wars movie.
@kerasys25
10 ай бұрын
Same with Embracer Group they should call them self the Graveyard Group they buy IPs to kill them
@cortepapel570610 ай бұрын
As painful as seeing an underrated series be so brutally treated and destroyed, it's even more painful hearing Flippy bring the news. I still remember that distinctive tone he'd bring to his videos way back when. And now? It sounds so lifeless after this whole mess. I wouldn't blame him.
@Roc_Official
10 ай бұрын
Perfectly said. That’s how damn near all of the community feels after all the shit we have been going through since after SR2.
@allthat2556677
10 ай бұрын
didnt he absolutly shit on the reboot though? I mean it wasnt a great game but flippy made it sound like a worse game than it acutally is. Which im sure made some second guess buying it.
@cortepapel5706
10 ай бұрын
@@allthat2556677 He did, and it wasn't the fact that the game was subpar, but the fact that fans like him waited years for the return of Saints Row to only be met with a game about student loans and waffle makers. Not to mention the un-satisfying gameplay, downgrade of story, absolutely NO major antagonists besides one at the end of the game when you're almost finished, etc
@ExoticZah
10 ай бұрын
@@allthat2556677Don’t do that dude, if you’re actually a saints row fan. That wouldn’t even be a question you would ask. Flip didn’t do anything wrong but tell the truth. Him and tons of other saints row fans feel the same exact way. He’s just spreading awareness to the bs. If they wanted to make a stand alone game, they didn’t have to market the game as Saints Row if it was going to be vastly different. This company said fuck their fan base and you’re asking idiotic questions like that? Flip and all of us just want a good saints row game. Stop defending shit companies.
@jabroni7706
10 ай бұрын
@@allthat2556677 The first trailer made the majority of people not want to buy it, not flippy
@FourheadWeapon10 ай бұрын
It sucks that such a great company and franchise was sabotaged by either malice or ignorance.
@BigWheel.
10 ай бұрын
The people who made the SR games years ago are long gone most likely, replaced by fresh graduates from art schools who might've maybe played the games back when they were little kids. But they also probably weren't too invested in the series, and without the fame or skill to create their own ip they have to resort to the body snatcher method of hijacking another series and turning it into their own with zero regard for the existing fanbase.
@RND_Gaming
10 ай бұрын
Obviously Volition is still at fault but I don’t fully blame them, like Flippy said at the end of the day it’s Deepsilver who decides what to do with their IP and deep silver is incapable of realizing the they were wrong
@Winterstormadvisory
10 ай бұрын
@@BigWheel.Yeah blame the 19 year old programmer you just described and not the 52 year old cigar chomper who's never even owned a console, who looked at some numbers and said "hey this Saints row thing is pretty popular we should fart those out as fast as possible."
@m0-m0597
10 ай бұрын
@@Winterstormadvisory Nobody is blaming the 19 year old programmer, we blame the 24 to 40 year old artsy/media people mainly
@GeteMachine
10 ай бұрын
Their parent company ruined them. THQ made them. Deep Silver ruined them.
@Sunshine-tu6cm10 ай бұрын
Man, it would be so funny if the source for SR2 got leaked online for the community to fix and Deep Silver shut it's doors. Not to give any developers possibly reading this any ideas.
@DevinRyanVitek
10 ай бұрын
The good ending.
@Roc_Official
10 ай бұрын
Wink wink
@deepflare1028
10 ай бұрын
And we'll get modding support like Bethesda or Valve games
@ivanrzhanoy9389
10 ай бұрын
Would be cool if we also got full access to the engine and dev tools. Maybe some indie dev could make their own game with them some day.
@Incognito-gh5qi
10 ай бұрын
We can only hope
@BlurXIII10 ай бұрын
What a tragedy. I had a small glimmer of restored hope when they said the patch is their main focus. I don't want IdolNinja's hard work to go down the drain like that. He put every fiber of his being into that patch with his blood sweat and tears. At this point, it's safe to assume that the patch itself was probably put on hold indefinitely. RIP Saints Row, Volition, and especially Mike Watson.
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
His death truly went in pain.
@ihavenoson3384
10 ай бұрын
Goro Majima made them do it. "Kiryu-chan!" :D
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
L I dont just speak on behalf of sr fans but behalf of humanity, we dont want deep silver to do non, just release source code of sr 2 publicly Long live saints row duology 💉💜
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
@@ihavenoson3384 XD
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
@ihavenoson3384 this is Taxi man
@PartyHatDogger10 ай бұрын
RIP IdolNinja, and RIP Volition
@natsutokyosensei2664
10 ай бұрын
Just like for Idolninja
@ultimatecontagion
10 ай бұрын
@@natsutokyosensei2664same here. He's the real G. Fuck Volition.
@VikingPoodle
10 ай бұрын
RIP (peace) IdolNinja RIP (piss) Volition
@sneedclavehere8918
10 ай бұрын
Reminder that the assholes at Volition lied to a man on his deathbed
@ray-tx8yx10 ай бұрын
Not surprising. Saints Row could've easily been a topselling franchise if they focused more on crime families and fleshed them out. The sequels could've focused on british gangs, the Triads, Yakuza and other modern gangs. Instead they went with hipster college kids.
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
Complete idiots how'd they fuck this up so badly.
@GeteMachine
10 ай бұрын
They always seemed to go against the obvious good idea and went with aliens, demons, SATAM agents, and then hipster. Like they didnt learn from AOM.
@Xighor
10 ай бұрын
@@GeteMachineAnd SR4.. Even SR3 was taking a wrong turn and it was like chill
@arcticwolf8150
4 ай бұрын
They should have continued the story after Gat Out Of Hell and went back in time travel to restore Earth
@sgsjspike10 ай бұрын
R.I.P Idol Ninja, a legend, I hope they don't do him dirty and turn his final project in to a scrapped project. Thank you to him and the OG Volition team for giving us countless hours of memorable moments in the OG games.
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
All dat needs to happen now is for dem awful disgraces to be unlisted from digital stores and release source code of sr 2 publicly
@koolkid9k10 ай бұрын
Flippy now has a reason to disappear (again)
@smokedlobbies
10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately
@Roc_Official
10 ай бұрын
Tragically
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
He's gonna disappear permanently 😔
@pasha_0791
10 ай бұрын
I don't think he'll disappear, more likely to stay around out of spite.
@Dr.Oofers
10 ай бұрын
@@pasha_0791Nah, he’s gonna vanish. Most certainly
@BigWheel.10 ай бұрын
"This won't sell" "Community interests shifted" = we want to appeal to a completely different market demographic now, abandoning the old one completely.
@uhhcallmejefe10 ай бұрын
The story of volition is genuinely one of the most depressing in videogame history
@GeteMachine
10 ай бұрын
Passion killed by dumb reviewers, GTA stans, bad management, bankruptcy, 2 flops, 2 rounds of lay-offs and a greedy, lazy publisher that but on a toxic community manger to shit on people who warned them about people not liking their twitter simulator.
@shadowx2229
10 ай бұрын
Visceral Studios had a similar tale too. That one really hurt
@DiddyBohlen
10 ай бұрын
Neversoft is among the worst. Went from making Tony Hawk and Guitar Hero to being forced to support Call of Duty.
@flatterghast
10 ай бұрын
@@DiddyBohlen This one is definitely one of the saddest ones. Not just Neversoft, but any company that has shared the same fate.
@Thaltas
10 ай бұрын
@@DiddyBohlenAND some of the greatest 3D Spiderman games that its source code was used for years (up until Spiderman 3). But just like Treyarch, they got stuck in a limbo for COD yeah.
@hoodieninja_720310 ай бұрын
If there's any comfort to be had, it's that in my experience, pissed off devs tend to leak unreleased stuff.
@saturn58010 ай бұрын
AAA publishers act like drunken shopkeepers burning millions of dollars to produce terrible reboots that nobody wants, but when a beloved franchise with a dedicated fan-base falls into their laps, they suddenly sober up and turn into accountants. 🤣
@JohnathanWilliamson849
10 ай бұрын
You seem to forget that Volition was the same company who praised anita sarkeesian back in 2014.
@EvertG8086
10 ай бұрын
@@JohnathanWilliamson849okay and?
@Chingakyckaling
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don't understand why people don't see it as a problem. It's not like siding with a staunch feminist and a liar to boot, will have an affect on their game philosophy or anything /s. Most companies are the same company in name only. Lots of old devs will and do leave eventually, until it's only an empty shell of what it used to be. Don't expect great games.
@GhostRangerr
10 ай бұрын
AAA publishers: "If you don't like the game, don't buy it" *Game doesn't sell well & their revenue/profit plummets* AAA publishers: *Surprised Pikachu Face*
@artair70
10 ай бұрын
@@omega1397Well no, it only explains their issue if they’ve decided to be in contact with her…
@crimsondynamo61510 ай бұрын
“The community shifted interest so that’s why we must meet these new expectations.” Doesn’t actually ask the community what they want and actively shits on the community when they hate the product they are presented.
@ng410710 ай бұрын
5:05 Man, seeing the loading screens for GotR hits hard - I drew and collaged those (heraldic one was a layer-heavy clipart mashup) and some of the weapon icons in prolonged back and forths with Idol back when the mod development was in full swing, and those were the most fun "staying up late" (due to timezone differences) sessions. Idol had that contagious drive y'know. Didn't care much for reboot, but the likely death of sr2 patch just... really sucks.. Damn.
@ogcomingthrough9220
10 ай бұрын
That sounds really cool, cool art btw
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
Awesome art work you have great talent! 👍 ❤
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
All dat needs to happen now is for dem awful disgraces to be unlisted from digital stores and release source code of sr 2 publicly
@Larry10 ай бұрын
Even without Violition, I sincerely doubt there's going to be another Saints Row for at least another six-seven years, even if they started development today, Grand Theft Auto 6 will be out long before they could finish the game, and there's no way a franchise with the current bad blood thr IP has with the audience right now could even hope to match a juggernaut like GTA.
@Roc_Official
10 ай бұрын
Agreed, well said.
@Larry
10 ай бұрын
@@Roc_Official Thank you :)
@Mateus_Carvalho
10 ай бұрын
Oh, totally. Even if the patch they were working on for SR2 comes out and miraculously makes the game properly playable on the PC, even a return to form would probably get run over by GTA 6.
@Matt-md5yt
10 ай бұрын
You are right Larry, good to see yah
@1KQ_
10 ай бұрын
The reboot was their perfect window to pull in those very fans who were yearning for a new open world too and they failed on capitalizing on that. So sad.
@firstconsulvergil420010 ай бұрын
I'm tired of people coping and refusing to give the developers and writers blame but putting everything on the publisher.
@StarlightLancer0110 ай бұрын
The lifelessness in Flippy's voice is the perfect representational result of all gamers who experience their favorite franchises go down in flames.
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
All dat needs to happen now is for dem awful disgraces to be unlisted from digital stores and release source code of sr 2 publicly
@Noelle_Holiday
10 ай бұрын
"How does it feel to live long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames?"
@starstruckp4808
10 ай бұрын
@@Noelle_Holiday”Feels great.” 😅
@qui-gonsgin8747
10 ай бұрын
"Modern Gaming" yeah what a joke
@wuhlfzebayne
10 ай бұрын
@@qui-gonsgin8747 spider man 2 baldurs gate 3 starfield battlebit remastered Alan wake 2 you're smoking crack my guy
@SammEater10 ай бұрын
Volition thought their ESG masters would protect them the same way they protect Disney from going under. Unfortunately for those clowns, the powers that be don't care about a mid tier game studio the same way they care about a huge movie studio.
@PaladinThizz
10 ай бұрын
You really think Disney would go under when they have theme parks and TV studios?
@JonnyHorseman
10 ай бұрын
@@PaladinThizzYou really think those TV Shows and theme parks aren't bleeding customers as we speak?
@onemorescout
10 ай бұрын
@@PaladinThizz We know Disney's in trouble, it's rumored Bob Iger's trying to sell Disney to Apple
@BurgertubeFounder
10 ай бұрын
@@onemorescout Disney is shrinking its' umbrella, selling off properties and IPs it bought, but I don't think Iger is trying to sell the conglomerate itself. But yeah, Dissey is still hurting right now. And they deserve it.
@PaladinThizz
10 ай бұрын
@@JonnyHorseman Did I say they weren't bleeding customers or did I say they weren't going to go out of business? Because I don't think you understand that getting money is the way to stay in business and that's exactly what they're doing. It's not about your feelings woman
@DivingHawker10 ай бұрын
They had a foot in the grave since Saints Row 4. Who knew consistently going against what fans want would end up badly for them?
@PaladinThizz
10 ай бұрын
They had a foot in the grave since SR3.
@necrotic25610 ай бұрын
Good Riddance honestly. I'm sure all these "No U" responses to the fans bringing up concerns paid out
@1KQ_10 ай бұрын
Hilarious how that Steph chick's Twitter account is now private
@seb2750
10 ай бұрын
Haters gonna hate, Steph have spoken.
@Stoooopid10 ай бұрын
Fuck dude, its so over. When Embracer Group announced the downsizing of their gaming division, I knew it was only a matter of time before some sort of announcement came out about Volition having layoffs in some fashion, but a full studio closure?! Man, I'm so devastated that it came to this. Rest in Peace Volition. At least I can still go back to SR1, 2, and The Punisher and have a good time remembering the good ol days before AoM and the reboot. Thanks for keeping the community updated on this whole thing and the SR2 patch. Its such a shame that we all had to watch something we love slowly crash and burn.
@GeteMachine
10 ай бұрын
They scrapped them to make up for the loses after falling out with Embracer hard because of Deep Silver.
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
All dat needs to happen now is for dem awful disgraces to be unlisted from digital stores and release source code of sr 2 publicly
@NexusKin
10 ай бұрын
I love the original Saints Row games, The Punisher, and the original Red Faction games. Volition was the king of environmental interaction, physics and destruction mechanics, especially at its peak with Red Faction Guerilla.
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
@@NexusKin rip volition 1993 - 2009 Long live saints row duology 💉💜
@PunishedDante10 ай бұрын
If anything, I am surprised it took this long for them to flop. They had so many chances to do things right and make a proper Saints Row game, but they pissed it all away at every turn. May Saints Row get the rest it deserves, cause it's about time.
@Roc_Official
10 ай бұрын
Perfectly said.
@Subreon
10 ай бұрын
It can't rest until another one is properly made. And until I get my own game company running, it's the only other ip that has a chance of competing with gta.
@theobell2002
10 ай бұрын
Clearly you didn't watch the video.
@JohnathanWilliamson849
10 ай бұрын
@@theobell2002 did you? Volition was the same company who praised Anita Sarkeesian back in 2014.
@omega1397
10 ай бұрын
@@JohnathanWilliamson849That's it? That's the example? Anita Sarkeesian? Are you 14?
@KodiMochi10 ай бұрын
At this rate, they should just give the community the source code and let the fans make a patch and fix the port. that way everyone gets atleast some kind of compromise on this. But companies like DeepSilver don't want compromise they just want all the chips.
@deepflare1028
10 ай бұрын
Saints Row 2 has a lot of potential for mod support, I mean look at Ultor Rising or GOTR
@MitchyBoi03
10 ай бұрын
Deep Silver’s ego is way too high for that unfortunately.
@bdeamon1
10 ай бұрын
That would be great, but that's more of an indie dev move. Still, we can always hope it gets leaked. That's way more likely
@PaladinThizz
10 ай бұрын
Why would they give out the source code to a game they own publicly so anyone can just use it to make a game and steal their product? That's dumb.
@PaladinThizz
10 ай бұрын
@@bdeamon1so when they don't give you the game you want, instead of moving on and moving to better games you think stealing is appropriate? My word
@WASTOIDSUPREME10 ай бұрын
At this point, it would be a cold and cruel move not to finish this patch. And before anyone says it; no, I don't care if they're a business who operates on how much of a profit they can turn. Business rule books can lick my truck nuts.
@nicktubara
10 ай бұрын
😂 couldnt have said better myself. A big win for the pfp, Bangles ❤
@PaladinThizz
10 ай бұрын
Well let's think like reasonable adults. Why would they spend money and resources to update a 15 year old game if they will not turn a profit? The thing about companies is that they are often funded by investors and those investors expect a return on investment. You want a say in how a company operates? Invest a large enough sum of money into that company. Because I can assure you those investors have put much more money into that company than the $60 or so you pay for a game. And why does money matter? Well no one will work for free, so they need money to pay all their employees, they need money to pay for the lights, equipment and licenses to run their business. They need to pay for the building they operate in, for the marketing of their games, all of this is very expensive, so it wouldn't make any sense for them to waste money and resources that could go to other projects on a game that is almost 20 years old just to make a few people happy. It makes no sense. Just go play a new game
@White_Tiger9310 ай бұрын
Volition's problem is simple; they got burnout by fame and reputation of this single IP, Saints Row. Once Steve Jarros left the studio and many others followed the same, Volition just can't do nothing except Saints Row. What I meant by this is that, Volition got other great IP like Freespace, or Red Faction, Descent or Summoner. They could make Freespace 3 or 4 and put Saints Row aside for awhile but they got burnout at the end.
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
Ugh they could've easily brought back Red Faction or Summoner.
@KungPooPanda10 ай бұрын
1am FLIPPY to save the depression
@Duckingheights
10 ай бұрын
Cruel Flippy Thesis@Aki-ana
@YES-ik4vo
10 ай бұрын
Real
@ONLY7EN10 ай бұрын
Rest in peace volition, i have no words. I was hoping for the saints row 2 patch to have some news soon, something to keep us hoping for this franchise. I dont know what to think right now but i hope in some way this series can continue but with this i dont know. I would have never in a million years though think that flippy's nda was due him working on the saints row 2 patch. (Edit: i also want to say rest in peace to idle ninja. The saints row 2 patch meant so much to him and literally wouldn't be possible to even start without him. Hell, MODDING wouldent be possible without him in saints row 2. Gotr is the closest thing we have to a patch and makes it possible to run on my potato, **laptop** and has helped others be able to play the greatest game of all time on pc, 5:27 - END basically summarizes what i want to say here)
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
All dat needs to happen now is for dem awful disgraces to be unlisted from digital stores and release source code of sr 2 publicly
@ONLY7EN
10 ай бұрын
@@AliBazz I 100 % agree, then we could make our own community patch
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
@@ONLY7EN yeah so tell dis dude in da vid dat he an idio, cause either doesnt know which is like whatta f or knows but aint sayin a word to improve things, clown him
@JordanDidDat10 ай бұрын
It’s actually so sad to see this all happening I’m so gutted there’s a big chance we could never get a saints row, when they first said a new saints row was coming i honestly couldn’t believe it I just wish it went how we all wanted it to go!
@GGPlex_10 ай бұрын
And with that, Volitions tale ends. Not with a huge blowout title or revisiting Stillwater, but with a 3 paragraph “I’m sorry” from HR.
@artistanthony100710 ай бұрын
I don't care that they're shut down, like nobody criticized the community manager's posts so that says alot about those who worked there. Not even 1 person came out and gave an apology for Steph's behavior.
@karmitdafruge110 ай бұрын
Rip volition, it's sad you had to go out like this, I wish it could've ended on a higher note.
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
All dat needs to happen now is for dem awful disgraces to be unlisted from digital stores and release source code of sr 2 publicly
@JonnyHorseman10 ай бұрын
Remember that one time you said the reboot "outsold" SR2? Yeah, that sure aged well
@yultimona
10 ай бұрын
To be fair, it could just be that standards for how well a game sold in 2008 vs. what's expected of a game from 2022/3 are vastly different. It wouldn't surprise me if the reboot _technically_ sold more than 2, but not enough for them to warrant keeping the studio around. But of course, I could just be wrong. That tends to happen.
@SoAaron_
10 ай бұрын
Even if the reboot did outsell SR2, I'm sure SR2 didn't cost 100 million to make.
@aeronyx
10 ай бұрын
@@SoAaron_ You're very much correct. It's not a stretch to say the Reboot outsold SR2, but that doesn't necessarily mean it made more profit, either. And we know it didn't even broke even.
@deepflare1028
10 ай бұрын
@@SoAaron_Yep, and it was a hell of a lot cheaper
@yultimona
10 ай бұрын
@@SoAaron_ that was what I was getting at, yeah. Standards are different because games cost more to make now.
@xRocky710 ай бұрын
All they had to do was remaster sr1
@wxxsldsaksldsakxvm337
10 ай бұрын
they should make saints row the third as a spin-off, they should have done saints row 3 as a game like sr2 and sr1, then porting sr1 and remastering sr2 or patch it
@youeatcerealwithafork
10 ай бұрын
They had one job, ONE JOB
@ENNEN42010 ай бұрын
May many more studios with contempt for their fans go under.
@FlamespeedyAMV
10 ай бұрын
This is because these Studios are filled with woke diversity hires now, who hate us
@SynthLizard810 ай бұрын
Give it enough time and there might be a indie successor to Saints Row, as far fetched as it may seem.
@scarysprite309310 ай бұрын
As sad as this is, we all KNEW this was coming when the reboot was finally revealed. RIP to another part of my childhood, should have been 343 Industries
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
How is 343 still going is beyond me.
@deftdeltron9944
10 ай бұрын
@@thegamingprozone1941 they're not, at least half of 343 staff were fired. Look it up
@WhiteJarrah10 ай бұрын
I can't help but wonder what this means for the future of _Saints Rows'_ presence on digital storefronts. Not just the shitty reboot, but the entire franchise.
@NEEDbacon
10 ай бұрын
I mean, so long as it still sells copies, outside of music I don't see why they'd take them down.
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
I still SR4 and SR3 Gat out of hell on PS5
@WhiteJarrah
10 ай бұрын
@@thegamingprozone1941 I still have the PS3 versions, but now there is no way to import new character creations into the game - I am so glad I still have a save file of the first mission from SR3 and SR4 with my boss.
@Rykyuby10 ай бұрын
as killbane once said in saints row 3 "The saints legacy ends here, not with a bang. But with a whimper" man he couldn't have been more right about that seeing as how things played out
@jakobmiller985910 ай бұрын
What they get for going woke
@eriknimo451710 ай бұрын
Im kind of relieved tbh. the volition we loved has been gone for a long time.
@OdysseusFGC10 ай бұрын
I was waiting on a comment from you, since you where the main reason I got into SR, and seeing a final nail in the coffin kinda scenario made me real sad
@khalidhassaan271910 ай бұрын
Example #261354 of suits not knowing what people actually want despite the people shouting it through the ether. RIP Volition. Fuck Deep Silver.
@ninochaosdrache3189
10 ай бұрын
Nah, the developers are at fault as well.
@khalidhassaan2719
10 ай бұрын
@@ninochaosdrache3189 they are for caving in but we're thinking too selfishly. They have their own livelyhoods to protect and unfortunately whatever a publisher wants will be done. That's how it goes. Smh.
@SlopHunter33310 ай бұрын
I love your channels Flipster, ive loved your channel for years now keep up the good work! Ive been watching consistently since the Tony Hawk Pro Skater 5 video
@mgallogical711410 ай бұрын
when they say no money to be made, they mean no ESG money to made.
@NCR_trooper-6910 ай бұрын
*"turning a gangster game to a gay teens game must bring a lot of money"*
@fatemakhan384310 ай бұрын
Considering their community manager outright said that, "People who liked our games are terrorist". Seriously as fan of this series i have completely lost all the sympathy for this company because of their Woke Shit 😡😠.
@amfortas
10 ай бұрын
These people seriously need medicating
@BurgertubeFounder
10 ай бұрын
@@amfortas Nah, they're very sane. They're just evil. As with all leftwing culture warriors. They should be deported or incarcerated indefinitely to save what's left of western culture.
@banditodestiny10 ай бұрын
I will pray my little purple heart out every night until Deep Silver sells Saints Row to a competent publisher so we can fix this shit
@icecreamheadache716510 ай бұрын
"Haters gonna hate." FUCK. VOLITION. 🎉
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
I remember that and all the anti sjw youtubers went nuts
@rangerv1
10 ай бұрын
That whole tweet was bc of deep silver, idol ninja used to run that account until his death which is when deep silver bought in a replacement for him who really wasn’t that good at their job
@GeteMachine
10 ай бұрын
@@rangerv1 DeadlySteph, was really the bane of the community for a lot of people, and she was hated in the community she used to run before she was transferred onto Saints Row. Deep Silver did this.
@ninochaosdrache3189
10 ай бұрын
@@rangerv1 Sure, just tell that yourself. If that was true, then why didn't Volition denounced those tweets or fired her to satisfy the fans? Instead, they agreed with them.
@j.n.r85637 ай бұрын
Their cowardice killed their franchise tbh.
@burakvardar3610 ай бұрын
Deep Silver: oh no, VOLITION!!! *cries* Spongebob: it's okay....
@Kechioma10 ай бұрын
this is so unfortunate, deep silver had to arguably be the worst publisher to take control of the IP, genuinely can't think of anybody that could've butchered it more. Hopefully some V employees can come out and start discussing shit they had to deal with under DS in the last decade, surely there's a lot of stories there
@nikoc8968
10 ай бұрын
STOP BLAMING THE PUBLISHER! previous employees at Volition had no problem meeting deadlines and budgets for SR 1-4 despite being published by the same company. the problem is with the DEVELOPERS at Volition; whoever joined between SR4 and SR2022 are incompetent, woke, and ultimately responsible for Volitions demise.
@Kechioma
10 ай бұрын
@@nikoc8968 did you even watch the video before commenting or did you just want to find a reason to scream "woke" like a dumbass
@Nanachiiky
10 ай бұрын
@@nikoc8968 blaming it on the woke when deep silver made some dogshit mistakes is such a weird move
@_zigger_
10 ай бұрын
Sounds like "blame take2 not rockstar" kind of copium
@nikoc8968
10 ай бұрын
@@Nanachiiky Deep Silver didnt do anything, they simply gave the deadline and budget for Volition to create a game with...just like EVERY SINGLE OTHER TIME they were commissioned to make a SR game for the publisher... whats different now?...the devs working at volition. you KNOW this...
@RayzorTK10 ай бұрын
Holy shit it actually happened I didnt think the reboot would end it but dam rip to a big part of my childhood 🖤
@TheLastSentientVolatile10 ай бұрын
It was this moment where volition knew.... They fucked up
@UnluckyGamingChannel10 ай бұрын
They haven't made a game I've really liked it in well over 10 years, but it's still a shame, especially when there were people like IdolNinja at Volition, and the video community team before the reboot were clearly passionate about the games they made (even if they did go quiet post-AoM). I'm interested in seeing what you know once you get it all structured.
@TheConmanOfConway10 ай бұрын
ive been with flippy since agents of mayhem. this almost feels like the true end of an era because flippy has pretty much said everything there could be said about one of my favorite video game franchises of all time. we know saints row literally had the potential to take over GTA as the best open world crime sim series if they put in the work but all that potential was thrown away because volition went the blue pill route, sold out, and made a fool of the series because they didn’t have the confidence to go up against gta. SAN ANDREAS is a gamg simulator where you work your way up from a sellout that ran away in the middle of a gang war to being the leader of the toughest gang in the state. that is literally the formula of saints row but they didn’t build on it.
@dutchvanderlinde496910 ай бұрын
go woke go broke
@shilobuchnik972810 ай бұрын
Thanks for keeping us updated, flipster
@MrWaifuTaker10 ай бұрын
Smoking on that Volition pack tonight, boys!
@MisterResistance10110 ай бұрын
They got what they deserved so it’s their own fault. Just like they said “haters gonna hate”, SUCKS TO SUCK. Sorry not sorry.
@deftdeltron9944
10 ай бұрын
Same. Im glad they're gone.
@lordsemen48910 ай бұрын
*"hAteRs goNNa haTE"* good riddance, lmao 😂
@ZyphateLeKabaaj10 ай бұрын
“We’re a business, not a charity”. Here’s that statement translated from legalese,”we make products, not art”
@trabuco9
10 ай бұрын
That was always the case, but they used to be competent products with actual talent in them. Nowadays they're not even seen as products by these bigger AAA companies, but as "services" They don't even need talent or a decent hiring process anymore, they can just put out trash by incompetent straight out of college nobodies with rich daddies and it will sell on brand loyalty alone.
@ZyphateLeKabaaj
10 ай бұрын
@@trabuco9 I don’t think it was always the case, especially with the games that were made 2 decades ago that we still hold onto like CoD, Halo, CS, Fallout, etc. They were all made as passion projects that never got the respect they deserved from the higher ups until long after those games had bankrolled their companies. The people who used to make games were actually driven and motivated people with any amount of a vision for what they want to create, nowadays you’d be hard pressed to find a AAA dev who has their own opinion on anything, just another office drone that would’ve been content being a paper pusher at some legal firm.
@ZyphateLeKabaaj
10 ай бұрын
@@trabuco9 but yeah, there is a lot to be said about the people who get hired at AAA studios now. I really do think that the money people now run games companies instead THE PEOPLE MAKING GAMES. This is evident if you watch any of Tim Cain’s KZread videos where he describes the process of making modern games, and even the greed that permeated the late 90’s and early 00’s and how it’s gotten worse over time.
@WertySensei10 ай бұрын
I appreciate the insight into what went down with this patch. I really was looking forward to it so much and really wanted to see it completed... god damn so sad we lost Idol Ninja...
@KemonoGamer7510 ай бұрын
Volition brought this on themselves..
@martinmarcos534010 ай бұрын
This is what you get when you "uPdAtE fOr mOdErN aUdIeNcEs".
@EwingFYM10 ай бұрын
Very sad to see, been a fan of the series sense I was a kid and even live a hour away from volition HQ.
@TheDrugFreeThrasher10 ай бұрын
I feel like Rockstar will suffer this same fate in the years to come.
@resserection1
10 ай бұрын
Parts of Rockstar already did suffer the same fate, like the Vancouver division
@TheDrugFreeThrasher
10 ай бұрын
@@resserection1 yeah, they’re never gonna be good again without Sam and Dan houser. Or Leslie Benzies.
@nabidisla.508610 ай бұрын
Go woke go broke
@Slop_Dogg10 ай бұрын
Saints Row at one point in time was truly something special. I’m getting older & I’ve seen a lot of big series rise & fall, but I was still sad to see this one. I know that reboot was horrible, but I’m mourning what once was more than what it became.
@og_3rd_st_saint_gat10 ай бұрын
Smoking on that volition pack now they need their ip sold to a company or conficate the ip if thats a thing
@Itgetsbetterofficial10 ай бұрын
When I saw this announcement you were the first person that I thought of.
@vitamin_cplus10 ай бұрын
never thought i'd see the birth and death of my favorite franchise. as much as i want more sr, it should've been killed off the moment deep silver wanted to cater to newer gamers and audiences who have succumbed to this generation's soft approach to everything. sappy, goofy millenial friends who struggle together against capitalism and cringey netflix dialogue, from a game series where we assassinate a political figure, literally bury someone alive, and chop off a dude's head in a meat packing plant
@StillND
10 ай бұрын
Even the Gen Z didn't want it.
@humesspoon3176
10 ай бұрын
Shit, I'm one of those "woke" people your grandparents speak of, and yet, I still think it's an abomination. They turned serious political concerns into trendy pop culture.
@CRGR1997
10 ай бұрын
Everyone blames the young gen but not the out of touch conservatives who run these corporations and aren't even gamers
@Gravijahz
10 ай бұрын
wait, the people in the earlier games WERE millennials. the newer game is gen z. gen z loves fucked up stuff, though. millennials are in their 30s and 40s now. Saints Row 2 and 3 are really big satires of early 2000s stuff, which is prime millenial.
@GhostRangerr
10 ай бұрын
They are Zoomers lol. Millennials grew up with the first 2 Saints Row games
@1r0zz10 ай бұрын
Same old, same old. Developer go down and accuse producers that they are the sole reason for their fall. It’s toooootally not like they are to blame for sun-par game design and production. Even in the constriction of the publisher there is room to design. Every game is made with publisher “shackles”.
@captaincrunch1707
10 ай бұрын
These are alternative facts to the people who want to move the goalposts.
@1r0zz
10 ай бұрын
@@captaincrunch1707 Where there’s a will there’s a way, no? The problem of the Saints row reboot aren’t really that the story needed to be about friendship or the censorship. You can dodge around those limits. The problem of saints row(reboot ) is that the game just wasn’t good.
@calvinmatthews152710 ай бұрын
It's been a slow & painful process, but Volition is finally finished. And what a way to go out.
@SoliderBoy10 ай бұрын
Idol ninja probably could generate enough electricity to power a small town spining in his grave
@R4L14N10 ай бұрын
so what your saying is, BOYCOTT DEEP SILVER!!!!!!!!!!!
@captaincrunch1707
10 ай бұрын
Meanwhile , DeadIsland2 having massive success because it’s just a fun game with a fun narrative. It has no sjw culture war crap polluting it & proceeds to sell well. #interesting
@casmith199810 ай бұрын
it certainly would be a shame if the work in progress patch, along with its source code which you have access to, “accidentally” leaked online for the community to work on independently…
@DillonintheDetails10 ай бұрын
What a horrendous final creation. 🪦
@coritrottman969910 ай бұрын
Being part of a fandom long term always amounts to pain
@JordanDidDat10 ай бұрын
All the homies hate deep silver
@Owen01
10 ай бұрын
And Embracer
@Kiezly10 ай бұрын
If the patch doesn’t come out, pls leak your version of the patch you got to play flippy.
@V1VISECT610 ай бұрын
Let's all pitch in some money for Tyren. Let's get him the desk he doesn't need but deserves.
@RalseiGote6910 ай бұрын
Mike Watson was a true legend.
@SnakeCqC_10 ай бұрын
When I first saw the news I was like hmmm what does flippy think about this…
@ultimatecontagion
10 ай бұрын
Same.
@hydratic750910 ай бұрын
It feels like the only option at this point is to put pressure on Deep Silver to either do the right thing or sell the IP. Seems unlikely to work since money is involved. IdolNinja deserves the community's best efforts, even if it is in vain.
@purple7filth10 ай бұрын
RIP Idol Ninja. We'll never get a good Saints row 2 port.
@TareqGamer10 ай бұрын
it's like the old saying "Get woke go broke."
@ghoul1713
10 ай бұрын
That doesnt even make sense you retarrd NPC most of the things that are woke earn shitton money this game was just bad
@JonnyHorseman
10 ай бұрын
@@ghoul1713the SR reboot was absolutely woke, don't pretend otherwise
@1KQ_
10 ай бұрын
Absolutely impressive how Soulless they managed to make the latest game.
@omfgpainkillers
10 ай бұрын
Saying the game failed because it was too woke is absurdly stupid and lets Deep Silver off the hook too easily. Would the game have been better if everyone was the opposite of woke? No, it would still have been a boring buggy floaty mess that misses the mark on every level.
@JonnyHorseman
10 ай бұрын
@@omfgpainkillers the game being woke is only HALF the reason it flopped, I'm tired of people claiming otherwise
@nicbahtin477410 ай бұрын
Get woke go broke
@Froguko.10 ай бұрын
If IdolNinja’s work is wasted I’ll never forgive Deep Silver.
@tanaflameheart888310 ай бұрын
watching blizzard falling like this with popcorn.
@honeyfrog898610 ай бұрын
Glad that you’re posting 🙂❤️
@elitef4010 ай бұрын
We gotta do some kind of #sr2patch riot. But then again I highly doubt that it'll get their attention.
@Asvp_Chamoy10 ай бұрын
I was waiting for flippy to upload about this throughout the whole day.
@CYPH3RsD0M41N10 ай бұрын
Here's to all the good times! Thank you Volition.
@HANGING_SILVER10 ай бұрын
"Giving the fans what they want wont sell or make money, instead lets give them the opposite of what they want and stuff it with as much garbage as possible, yeah that will sell millions" - Deep Silver
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made this vid in kind of a rush, I hope I can gather my thoughts and make a proper video but I've been pretty sick lately :/ still, all this fuss around the SR2 patch has me worried, i know a lot of you guys are left in the dark, but deep silver is reluctant on giving any info because they're starting to get cold feet on the whole thing. its still up in the air, but i just didnt want to be silent anymore, you guys really need an update of some kind.
@bioclassic2330
10 ай бұрын
Real
@xxNiceLeaderxx
10 ай бұрын
It’s all good man thanks for keeping up with the videos man!
@BOXER53
10 ай бұрын
Good we're better off
@kemosabe1313
10 ай бұрын
It's over, they're never going to patch it at this rate, it would be a waste of their time for a fanbase they've despised since sr4
@charlieroberts7031
10 ай бұрын
Just leak the patch for christ sakes!
“The saints legacy ends here,not with a bang. But with a whimper.” Killbanes quote hits a lot more close to home considering the current situation
@juniorjunior5884
10 ай бұрын
Killbane to volition "You didn't care about the crown, just the paycheck."
@cotyjackson7200
10 ай бұрын
Wow. Killbane WAS right.
@GeteMachine
10 ай бұрын
He was right. The Saints selling out to sell lunchboxes only for them to actually want dumb fast food toys as a plotline.
@compromisedreality8827
10 ай бұрын
it all hit the fan the moment SR3 was released.
@wackyclock
10 ай бұрын
killbane was such a great villain
RIP Volition. Once a great company turned to ashes.
@RetryOfHealGuy
10 ай бұрын
RIP BOZOs
@junkolover9518
10 ай бұрын
Nobody could've seen it coming. All the CEOs are now in complete state of shock, trauma, disarray, and even diarrhea. The reason is still being researched by their best gaming scientists.
@_zigger_
10 ай бұрын
Rest in рiss
@thenoobgamer95
10 ай бұрын
@@junkolover9518LMFAO
@1r0zz
10 ай бұрын
@@junkolover9518 The horror is that you’re probably right…
"Idol Ninja's legacy is up to Deep Silver" Those are some ominous words there
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
All dat needs to happen now is for dem awful disgraces to be unlisted from digital stores and release source code of sr 2 publicly
They should rename themselves to "Deep Shitter" with how great they handle their games and studios
@XanderWhovian
10 ай бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't earn themselves that title after Ride to Hell: Retribution.
@fredster594
10 ай бұрын
@@XanderWhovianTo be fair, Ride to Hell is so horrible that it's good. It's like The Room of the video game industry.
@MitchyBoi03
10 ай бұрын
Or maybe Deep Slither because they’re nothing but snakes.
@XanderWhovian
10 ай бұрын
@@fredster594 True, but, i think both The Room and Ride to Hell were lightning in a bottle for their respective mediums. The amazingness of them both could never conceivably carry over into any future projects, but the sheer level of shite-ness would remain. It's why we're most likely never going to see Tommy Wiseau direct a Star Wars movie.
@kerasys25
10 ай бұрын
Same with Embracer Group they should call them self the Graveyard Group they buy IPs to kill them
As painful as seeing an underrated series be so brutally treated and destroyed, it's even more painful hearing Flippy bring the news. I still remember that distinctive tone he'd bring to his videos way back when. And now? It sounds so lifeless after this whole mess. I wouldn't blame him.
@Roc_Official
10 ай бұрын
Perfectly said. That’s how damn near all of the community feels after all the shit we have been going through since after SR2.
@allthat2556677
10 ай бұрын
didnt he absolutly shit on the reboot though? I mean it wasnt a great game but flippy made it sound like a worse game than it acutally is. Which im sure made some second guess buying it.
@cortepapel5706
10 ай бұрын
@@allthat2556677 He did, and it wasn't the fact that the game was subpar, but the fact that fans like him waited years for the return of Saints Row to only be met with a game about student loans and waffle makers. Not to mention the un-satisfying gameplay, downgrade of story, absolutely NO major antagonists besides one at the end of the game when you're almost finished, etc
@ExoticZah
10 ай бұрын
@@allthat2556677Don’t do that dude, if you’re actually a saints row fan. That wouldn’t even be a question you would ask. Flip didn’t do anything wrong but tell the truth. Him and tons of other saints row fans feel the same exact way. He’s just spreading awareness to the bs. If they wanted to make a stand alone game, they didn’t have to market the game as Saints Row if it was going to be vastly different. This company said fuck their fan base and you’re asking idiotic questions like that? Flip and all of us just want a good saints row game. Stop defending shit companies.
@jabroni7706
10 ай бұрын
@@allthat2556677 The first trailer made the majority of people not want to buy it, not flippy
It sucks that such a great company and franchise was sabotaged by either malice or ignorance.
@BigWheel.
10 ай бұрын
The people who made the SR games years ago are long gone most likely, replaced by fresh graduates from art schools who might've maybe played the games back when they were little kids. But they also probably weren't too invested in the series, and without the fame or skill to create their own ip they have to resort to the body snatcher method of hijacking another series and turning it into their own with zero regard for the existing fanbase.
@RND_Gaming
10 ай бұрын
Obviously Volition is still at fault but I don’t fully blame them, like Flippy said at the end of the day it’s Deepsilver who decides what to do with their IP and deep silver is incapable of realizing the they were wrong
@Winterstormadvisory
10 ай бұрын
@@BigWheel.Yeah blame the 19 year old programmer you just described and not the 52 year old cigar chomper who's never even owned a console, who looked at some numbers and said "hey this Saints row thing is pretty popular we should fart those out as fast as possible."
@m0-m0597
10 ай бұрын
@@Winterstormadvisory Nobody is blaming the 19 year old programmer, we blame the 24 to 40 year old artsy/media people mainly
@GeteMachine
10 ай бұрын
Their parent company ruined them. THQ made them. Deep Silver ruined them.
Man, it would be so funny if the source for SR2 got leaked online for the community to fix and Deep Silver shut it's doors. Not to give any developers possibly reading this any ideas.
@DevinRyanVitek
10 ай бұрын
The good ending.
@Roc_Official
10 ай бұрын
Wink wink
@deepflare1028
10 ай бұрын
And we'll get modding support like Bethesda or Valve games
@ivanrzhanoy9389
10 ай бұрын
Would be cool if we also got full access to the engine and dev tools. Maybe some indie dev could make their own game with them some day.
@Incognito-gh5qi
10 ай бұрын
We can only hope
What a tragedy. I had a small glimmer of restored hope when they said the patch is their main focus. I don't want IdolNinja's hard work to go down the drain like that. He put every fiber of his being into that patch with his blood sweat and tears. At this point, it's safe to assume that the patch itself was probably put on hold indefinitely. RIP Saints Row, Volition, and especially Mike Watson.
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
His death truly went in pain.
@ihavenoson3384
10 ай бұрын
Goro Majima made them do it. "Kiryu-chan!" :D
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
L I dont just speak on behalf of sr fans but behalf of humanity, we dont want deep silver to do non, just release source code of sr 2 publicly Long live saints row duology 💉💜
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
@@ihavenoson3384 XD
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
@ihavenoson3384 this is Taxi man
RIP IdolNinja, and RIP Volition
@natsutokyosensei2664
10 ай бұрын
Just like for Idolninja
@ultimatecontagion
10 ай бұрын
@@natsutokyosensei2664same here. He's the real G. Fuck Volition.
@VikingPoodle
10 ай бұрын
RIP (peace) IdolNinja RIP (piss) Volition
@sneedclavehere8918
10 ай бұрын
Reminder that the assholes at Volition lied to a man on his deathbed
Not surprising. Saints Row could've easily been a topselling franchise if they focused more on crime families and fleshed them out. The sequels could've focused on british gangs, the Triads, Yakuza and other modern gangs. Instead they went with hipster college kids.
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
Complete idiots how'd they fuck this up so badly.
@GeteMachine
10 ай бұрын
They always seemed to go against the obvious good idea and went with aliens, demons, SATAM agents, and then hipster. Like they didnt learn from AOM.
@Xighor
10 ай бұрын
@@GeteMachineAnd SR4.. Even SR3 was taking a wrong turn and it was like chill
@arcticwolf8150
4 ай бұрын
They should have continued the story after Gat Out Of Hell and went back in time travel to restore Earth
R.I.P Idol Ninja, a legend, I hope they don't do him dirty and turn his final project in to a scrapped project. Thank you to him and the OG Volition team for giving us countless hours of memorable moments in the OG games.
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
All dat needs to happen now is for dem awful disgraces to be unlisted from digital stores and release source code of sr 2 publicly
Flippy now has a reason to disappear (again)
@smokedlobbies
10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately
@Roc_Official
10 ай бұрын
Tragically
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
He's gonna disappear permanently 😔
@pasha_0791
10 ай бұрын
I don't think he'll disappear, more likely to stay around out of spite.
@Dr.Oofers
10 ай бұрын
@@pasha_0791Nah, he’s gonna vanish. Most certainly
"This won't sell" "Community interests shifted" = we want to appeal to a completely different market demographic now, abandoning the old one completely.
The story of volition is genuinely one of the most depressing in videogame history
@GeteMachine
10 ай бұрын
Passion killed by dumb reviewers, GTA stans, bad management, bankruptcy, 2 flops, 2 rounds of lay-offs and a greedy, lazy publisher that but on a toxic community manger to shit on people who warned them about people not liking their twitter simulator.
@shadowx2229
10 ай бұрын
Visceral Studios had a similar tale too. That one really hurt
@DiddyBohlen
10 ай бұрын
Neversoft is among the worst. Went from making Tony Hawk and Guitar Hero to being forced to support Call of Duty.
@flatterghast
10 ай бұрын
@@DiddyBohlen This one is definitely one of the saddest ones. Not just Neversoft, but any company that has shared the same fate.
@Thaltas
10 ай бұрын
@@DiddyBohlenAND some of the greatest 3D Spiderman games that its source code was used for years (up until Spiderman 3). But just like Treyarch, they got stuck in a limbo for COD yeah.
If there's any comfort to be had, it's that in my experience, pissed off devs tend to leak unreleased stuff.
AAA publishers act like drunken shopkeepers burning millions of dollars to produce terrible reboots that nobody wants, but when a beloved franchise with a dedicated fan-base falls into their laps, they suddenly sober up and turn into accountants. 🤣
@JohnathanWilliamson849
10 ай бұрын
You seem to forget that Volition was the same company who praised anita sarkeesian back in 2014.
@EvertG8086
10 ай бұрын
@@JohnathanWilliamson849okay and?
@Chingakyckaling
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don't understand why people don't see it as a problem. It's not like siding with a staunch feminist and a liar to boot, will have an affect on their game philosophy or anything /s. Most companies are the same company in name only. Lots of old devs will and do leave eventually, until it's only an empty shell of what it used to be. Don't expect great games.
@GhostRangerr
10 ай бұрын
AAA publishers: "If you don't like the game, don't buy it" *Game doesn't sell well & their revenue/profit plummets* AAA publishers: *Surprised Pikachu Face*
@artair70
10 ай бұрын
@@omega1397Well no, it only explains their issue if they’ve decided to be in contact with her…
“The community shifted interest so that’s why we must meet these new expectations.” Doesn’t actually ask the community what they want and actively shits on the community when they hate the product they are presented.
5:05 Man, seeing the loading screens for GotR hits hard - I drew and collaged those (heraldic one was a layer-heavy clipart mashup) and some of the weapon icons in prolonged back and forths with Idol back when the mod development was in full swing, and those were the most fun "staying up late" (due to timezone differences) sessions. Idol had that contagious drive y'know. Didn't care much for reboot, but the likely death of sr2 patch just... really sucks.. Damn.
@ogcomingthrough9220
10 ай бұрын
That sounds really cool, cool art btw
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
Awesome art work you have great talent! 👍 ❤
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
All dat needs to happen now is for dem awful disgraces to be unlisted from digital stores and release source code of sr 2 publicly
Even without Violition, I sincerely doubt there's going to be another Saints Row for at least another six-seven years, even if they started development today, Grand Theft Auto 6 will be out long before they could finish the game, and there's no way a franchise with the current bad blood thr IP has with the audience right now could even hope to match a juggernaut like GTA.
@Roc_Official
10 ай бұрын
Agreed, well said.
@Larry
10 ай бұрын
@@Roc_Official Thank you :)
@Mateus_Carvalho
10 ай бұрын
Oh, totally. Even if the patch they were working on for SR2 comes out and miraculously makes the game properly playable on the PC, even a return to form would probably get run over by GTA 6.
@Matt-md5yt
10 ай бұрын
You are right Larry, good to see yah
@1KQ_
10 ай бұрын
The reboot was their perfect window to pull in those very fans who were yearning for a new open world too and they failed on capitalizing on that. So sad.
I'm tired of people coping and refusing to give the developers and writers blame but putting everything on the publisher.
The lifelessness in Flippy's voice is the perfect representational result of all gamers who experience their favorite franchises go down in flames.
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
All dat needs to happen now is for dem awful disgraces to be unlisted from digital stores and release source code of sr 2 publicly
@Noelle_Holiday
10 ай бұрын
"How does it feel to live long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames?"
@starstruckp4808
10 ай бұрын
@@Noelle_Holiday”Feels great.” 😅
@qui-gonsgin8747
10 ай бұрын
"Modern Gaming" yeah what a joke
@wuhlfzebayne
10 ай бұрын
@@qui-gonsgin8747 spider man 2 baldurs gate 3 starfield battlebit remastered Alan wake 2 you're smoking crack my guy
Volition thought their ESG masters would protect them the same way they protect Disney from going under. Unfortunately for those clowns, the powers that be don't care about a mid tier game studio the same way they care about a huge movie studio.
@PaladinThizz
10 ай бұрын
You really think Disney would go under when they have theme parks and TV studios?
@JonnyHorseman
10 ай бұрын
@@PaladinThizzYou really think those TV Shows and theme parks aren't bleeding customers as we speak?
@onemorescout
10 ай бұрын
@@PaladinThizz We know Disney's in trouble, it's rumored Bob Iger's trying to sell Disney to Apple
@BurgertubeFounder
10 ай бұрын
@@onemorescout Disney is shrinking its' umbrella, selling off properties and IPs it bought, but I don't think Iger is trying to sell the conglomerate itself. But yeah, Dissey is still hurting right now. And they deserve it.
@PaladinThizz
10 ай бұрын
@@JonnyHorseman Did I say they weren't bleeding customers or did I say they weren't going to go out of business? Because I don't think you understand that getting money is the way to stay in business and that's exactly what they're doing. It's not about your feelings woman
They had a foot in the grave since Saints Row 4. Who knew consistently going against what fans want would end up badly for them?
@PaladinThizz
10 ай бұрын
They had a foot in the grave since SR3.
Good Riddance honestly. I'm sure all these "No U" responses to the fans bringing up concerns paid out
Hilarious how that Steph chick's Twitter account is now private
@seb2750
10 ай бұрын
Haters gonna hate, Steph have spoken.
Fuck dude, its so over. When Embracer Group announced the downsizing of their gaming division, I knew it was only a matter of time before some sort of announcement came out about Volition having layoffs in some fashion, but a full studio closure?! Man, I'm so devastated that it came to this. Rest in Peace Volition. At least I can still go back to SR1, 2, and The Punisher and have a good time remembering the good ol days before AoM and the reboot. Thanks for keeping the community updated on this whole thing and the SR2 patch. Its such a shame that we all had to watch something we love slowly crash and burn.
@GeteMachine
10 ай бұрын
They scrapped them to make up for the loses after falling out with Embracer hard because of Deep Silver.
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
All dat needs to happen now is for dem awful disgraces to be unlisted from digital stores and release source code of sr 2 publicly
@NexusKin
10 ай бұрын
I love the original Saints Row games, The Punisher, and the original Red Faction games. Volition was the king of environmental interaction, physics and destruction mechanics, especially at its peak with Red Faction Guerilla.
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
@@NexusKin rip volition 1993 - 2009 Long live saints row duology 💉💜
If anything, I am surprised it took this long for them to flop. They had so many chances to do things right and make a proper Saints Row game, but they pissed it all away at every turn. May Saints Row get the rest it deserves, cause it's about time.
@Roc_Official
10 ай бұрын
Perfectly said.
@Subreon
10 ай бұрын
It can't rest until another one is properly made. And until I get my own game company running, it's the only other ip that has a chance of competing with gta.
@theobell2002
10 ай бұрын
Clearly you didn't watch the video.
@JohnathanWilliamson849
10 ай бұрын
@@theobell2002 did you? Volition was the same company who praised Anita Sarkeesian back in 2014.
@omega1397
10 ай бұрын
@@JohnathanWilliamson849That's it? That's the example? Anita Sarkeesian? Are you 14?
At this rate, they should just give the community the source code and let the fans make a patch and fix the port. that way everyone gets atleast some kind of compromise on this. But companies like DeepSilver don't want compromise they just want all the chips.
@deepflare1028
10 ай бұрын
Saints Row 2 has a lot of potential for mod support, I mean look at Ultor Rising or GOTR
@MitchyBoi03
10 ай бұрын
Deep Silver’s ego is way too high for that unfortunately.
@bdeamon1
10 ай бұрын
That would be great, but that's more of an indie dev move. Still, we can always hope it gets leaked. That's way more likely
@PaladinThizz
10 ай бұрын
Why would they give out the source code to a game they own publicly so anyone can just use it to make a game and steal their product? That's dumb.
@PaladinThizz
10 ай бұрын
@@bdeamon1so when they don't give you the game you want, instead of moving on and moving to better games you think stealing is appropriate? My word
At this point, it would be a cold and cruel move not to finish this patch. And before anyone says it; no, I don't care if they're a business who operates on how much of a profit they can turn. Business rule books can lick my truck nuts.
@nicktubara
10 ай бұрын
😂 couldnt have said better myself. A big win for the pfp, Bangles ❤
@PaladinThizz
10 ай бұрын
Well let's think like reasonable adults. Why would they spend money and resources to update a 15 year old game if they will not turn a profit? The thing about companies is that they are often funded by investors and those investors expect a return on investment. You want a say in how a company operates? Invest a large enough sum of money into that company. Because I can assure you those investors have put much more money into that company than the $60 or so you pay for a game. And why does money matter? Well no one will work for free, so they need money to pay all their employees, they need money to pay for the lights, equipment and licenses to run their business. They need to pay for the building they operate in, for the marketing of their games, all of this is very expensive, so it wouldn't make any sense for them to waste money and resources that could go to other projects on a game that is almost 20 years old just to make a few people happy. It makes no sense. Just go play a new game
Volition's problem is simple; they got burnout by fame and reputation of this single IP, Saints Row. Once Steve Jarros left the studio and many others followed the same, Volition just can't do nothing except Saints Row. What I meant by this is that, Volition got other great IP like Freespace, or Red Faction, Descent or Summoner. They could make Freespace 3 or 4 and put Saints Row aside for awhile but they got burnout at the end.
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
Ugh they could've easily brought back Red Faction or Summoner.
1am FLIPPY to save the depression
@Duckingheights
10 ай бұрын
Cruel Flippy Thesis@Aki-ana
@YES-ik4vo
10 ай бұрын
Real
Rest in peace volition, i have no words. I was hoping for the saints row 2 patch to have some news soon, something to keep us hoping for this franchise. I dont know what to think right now but i hope in some way this series can continue but with this i dont know. I would have never in a million years though think that flippy's nda was due him working on the saints row 2 patch. (Edit: i also want to say rest in peace to idle ninja. The saints row 2 patch meant so much to him and literally wouldn't be possible to even start without him. Hell, MODDING wouldent be possible without him in saints row 2. Gotr is the closest thing we have to a patch and makes it possible to run on my potato, **laptop** and has helped others be able to play the greatest game of all time on pc, 5:27 - END basically summarizes what i want to say here)
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
All dat needs to happen now is for dem awful disgraces to be unlisted from digital stores and release source code of sr 2 publicly
@ONLY7EN
10 ай бұрын
@@AliBazz I 100 % agree, then we could make our own community patch
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
@@ONLY7EN yeah so tell dis dude in da vid dat he an idio, cause either doesnt know which is like whatta f or knows but aint sayin a word to improve things, clown him
It’s actually so sad to see this all happening I’m so gutted there’s a big chance we could never get a saints row, when they first said a new saints row was coming i honestly couldn’t believe it I just wish it went how we all wanted it to go!
And with that, Volitions tale ends. Not with a huge blowout title or revisiting Stillwater, but with a 3 paragraph “I’m sorry” from HR.
I don't care that they're shut down, like nobody criticized the community manager's posts so that says alot about those who worked there. Not even 1 person came out and gave an apology for Steph's behavior.
Rip volition, it's sad you had to go out like this, I wish it could've ended on a higher note.
@AliBazz
10 ай бұрын
All dat needs to happen now is for dem awful disgraces to be unlisted from digital stores and release source code of sr 2 publicly
Remember that one time you said the reboot "outsold" SR2? Yeah, that sure aged well
@yultimona
10 ай бұрын
To be fair, it could just be that standards for how well a game sold in 2008 vs. what's expected of a game from 2022/3 are vastly different. It wouldn't surprise me if the reboot _technically_ sold more than 2, but not enough for them to warrant keeping the studio around. But of course, I could just be wrong. That tends to happen.
@SoAaron_
10 ай бұрын
Even if the reboot did outsell SR2, I'm sure SR2 didn't cost 100 million to make.
@aeronyx
10 ай бұрын
@@SoAaron_ You're very much correct. It's not a stretch to say the Reboot outsold SR2, but that doesn't necessarily mean it made more profit, either. And we know it didn't even broke even.
@deepflare1028
10 ай бұрын
@@SoAaron_Yep, and it was a hell of a lot cheaper
@yultimona
10 ай бұрын
@@SoAaron_ that was what I was getting at, yeah. Standards are different because games cost more to make now.
All they had to do was remaster sr1
@wxxsldsaksldsakxvm337
10 ай бұрын
they should make saints row the third as a spin-off, they should have done saints row 3 as a game like sr2 and sr1, then porting sr1 and remastering sr2 or patch it
@youeatcerealwithafork
10 ай бұрын
They had one job, ONE JOB
May many more studios with contempt for their fans go under.
@FlamespeedyAMV
10 ай бұрын
This is because these Studios are filled with woke diversity hires now, who hate us
Give it enough time and there might be a indie successor to Saints Row, as far fetched as it may seem.
As sad as this is, we all KNEW this was coming when the reboot was finally revealed. RIP to another part of my childhood, should have been 343 Industries
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
How is 343 still going is beyond me.
@deftdeltron9944
10 ай бұрын
@@thegamingprozone1941 they're not, at least half of 343 staff were fired. Look it up
I can't help but wonder what this means for the future of _Saints Rows'_ presence on digital storefronts. Not just the shitty reboot, but the entire franchise.
@NEEDbacon
10 ай бұрын
I mean, so long as it still sells copies, outside of music I don't see why they'd take them down.
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
I still SR4 and SR3 Gat out of hell on PS5
@WhiteJarrah
10 ай бұрын
@@thegamingprozone1941 I still have the PS3 versions, but now there is no way to import new character creations into the game - I am so glad I still have a save file of the first mission from SR3 and SR4 with my boss.
as killbane once said in saints row 3 "The saints legacy ends here, not with a bang. But with a whimper" man he couldn't have been more right about that seeing as how things played out
What they get for going woke
Im kind of relieved tbh. the volition we loved has been gone for a long time.
I was waiting on a comment from you, since you where the main reason I got into SR, and seeing a final nail in the coffin kinda scenario made me real sad
Example #261354 of suits not knowing what people actually want despite the people shouting it through the ether. RIP Volition. Fuck Deep Silver.
@ninochaosdrache3189
10 ай бұрын
Nah, the developers are at fault as well.
@khalidhassaan2719
10 ай бұрын
@@ninochaosdrache3189 they are for caving in but we're thinking too selfishly. They have their own livelyhoods to protect and unfortunately whatever a publisher wants will be done. That's how it goes. Smh.
I love your channels Flipster, ive loved your channel for years now keep up the good work! Ive been watching consistently since the Tony Hawk Pro Skater 5 video
when they say no money to be made, they mean no ESG money to made.
*"turning a gangster game to a gay teens game must bring a lot of money"*
Considering their community manager outright said that, "People who liked our games are terrorist". Seriously as fan of this series i have completely lost all the sympathy for this company because of their Woke Shit 😡😠.
@amfortas
10 ай бұрын
These people seriously need medicating
@BurgertubeFounder
10 ай бұрын
@@amfortas Nah, they're very sane. They're just evil. As with all leftwing culture warriors. They should be deported or incarcerated indefinitely to save what's left of western culture.
I will pray my little purple heart out every night until Deep Silver sells Saints Row to a competent publisher so we can fix this shit
"Haters gonna hate." FUCK. VOLITION. 🎉
@thegamingprozone1941
10 ай бұрын
I remember that and all the anti sjw youtubers went nuts
@rangerv1
10 ай бұрын
That whole tweet was bc of deep silver, idol ninja used to run that account until his death which is when deep silver bought in a replacement for him who really wasn’t that good at their job
@GeteMachine
10 ай бұрын
@@rangerv1 DeadlySteph, was really the bane of the community for a lot of people, and she was hated in the community she used to run before she was transferred onto Saints Row. Deep Silver did this.
@ninochaosdrache3189
10 ай бұрын
@@rangerv1 Sure, just tell that yourself. If that was true, then why didn't Volition denounced those tweets or fired her to satisfy the fans? Instead, they agreed with them.
Their cowardice killed their franchise tbh.
Deep Silver: oh no, VOLITION!!! *cries* Spongebob: it's okay....
this is so unfortunate, deep silver had to arguably be the worst publisher to take control of the IP, genuinely can't think of anybody that could've butchered it more. Hopefully some V employees can come out and start discussing shit they had to deal with under DS in the last decade, surely there's a lot of stories there
@nikoc8968
10 ай бұрын
STOP BLAMING THE PUBLISHER! previous employees at Volition had no problem meeting deadlines and budgets for SR 1-4 despite being published by the same company. the problem is with the DEVELOPERS at Volition; whoever joined between SR4 and SR2022 are incompetent, woke, and ultimately responsible for Volitions demise.
@Kechioma
10 ай бұрын
@@nikoc8968 did you even watch the video before commenting or did you just want to find a reason to scream "woke" like a dumbass
@Nanachiiky
10 ай бұрын
@@nikoc8968 blaming it on the woke when deep silver made some dogshit mistakes is such a weird move
@_zigger_
10 ай бұрын
Sounds like "blame take2 not rockstar" kind of copium
@nikoc8968
10 ай бұрын
@@Nanachiiky Deep Silver didnt do anything, they simply gave the deadline and budget for Volition to create a game with...just like EVERY SINGLE OTHER TIME they were commissioned to make a SR game for the publisher... whats different now?...the devs working at volition. you KNOW this...
Holy shit it actually happened I didnt think the reboot would end it but dam rip to a big part of my childhood 🖤
It was this moment where volition knew.... They fucked up
They haven't made a game I've really liked it in well over 10 years, but it's still a shame, especially when there were people like IdolNinja at Volition, and the video community team before the reboot were clearly passionate about the games they made (even if they did go quiet post-AoM). I'm interested in seeing what you know once you get it all structured.
ive been with flippy since agents of mayhem. this almost feels like the true end of an era because flippy has pretty much said everything there could be said about one of my favorite video game franchises of all time. we know saints row literally had the potential to take over GTA as the best open world crime sim series if they put in the work but all that potential was thrown away because volition went the blue pill route, sold out, and made a fool of the series because they didn’t have the confidence to go up against gta. SAN ANDREAS is a gamg simulator where you work your way up from a sellout that ran away in the middle of a gang war to being the leader of the toughest gang in the state. that is literally the formula of saints row but they didn’t build on it.
go woke go broke
Thanks for keeping us updated, flipster
Smoking on that Volition pack tonight, boys!
They got what they deserved so it’s their own fault. Just like they said “haters gonna hate”, SUCKS TO SUCK. Sorry not sorry.
@deftdeltron9944
10 ай бұрын
Same. Im glad they're gone.
*"hAteRs goNNa haTE"* good riddance, lmao 😂
“We’re a business, not a charity”. Here’s that statement translated from legalese,”we make products, not art”
@trabuco9
10 ай бұрын
That was always the case, but they used to be competent products with actual talent in them. Nowadays they're not even seen as products by these bigger AAA companies, but as "services" They don't even need talent or a decent hiring process anymore, they can just put out trash by incompetent straight out of college nobodies with rich daddies and it will sell on brand loyalty alone.
@ZyphateLeKabaaj
10 ай бұрын
@@trabuco9 I don’t think it was always the case, especially with the games that were made 2 decades ago that we still hold onto like CoD, Halo, CS, Fallout, etc. They were all made as passion projects that never got the respect they deserved from the higher ups until long after those games had bankrolled their companies. The people who used to make games were actually driven and motivated people with any amount of a vision for what they want to create, nowadays you’d be hard pressed to find a AAA dev who has their own opinion on anything, just another office drone that would’ve been content being a paper pusher at some legal firm.
@ZyphateLeKabaaj
10 ай бұрын
@@trabuco9 but yeah, there is a lot to be said about the people who get hired at AAA studios now. I really do think that the money people now run games companies instead THE PEOPLE MAKING GAMES. This is evident if you watch any of Tim Cain’s KZread videos where he describes the process of making modern games, and even the greed that permeated the late 90’s and early 00’s and how it’s gotten worse over time.
I appreciate the insight into what went down with this patch. I really was looking forward to it so much and really wanted to see it completed... god damn so sad we lost Idol Ninja...
Volition brought this on themselves..
This is what you get when you "uPdAtE fOr mOdErN aUdIeNcEs".
Very sad to see, been a fan of the series sense I was a kid and even live a hour away from volition HQ.
I feel like Rockstar will suffer this same fate in the years to come.
@resserection1
10 ай бұрын
Parts of Rockstar already did suffer the same fate, like the Vancouver division
@TheDrugFreeThrasher
10 ай бұрын
@@resserection1 yeah, they’re never gonna be good again without Sam and Dan houser. Or Leslie Benzies.
Go woke go broke
Saints Row at one point in time was truly something special. I’m getting older & I’ve seen a lot of big series rise & fall, but I was still sad to see this one. I know that reboot was horrible, but I’m mourning what once was more than what it became.
Smoking on that volition pack now they need their ip sold to a company or conficate the ip if thats a thing
When I saw this announcement you were the first person that I thought of.
never thought i'd see the birth and death of my favorite franchise. as much as i want more sr, it should've been killed off the moment deep silver wanted to cater to newer gamers and audiences who have succumbed to this generation's soft approach to everything. sappy, goofy millenial friends who struggle together against capitalism and cringey netflix dialogue, from a game series where we assassinate a political figure, literally bury someone alive, and chop off a dude's head in a meat packing plant
@StillND
10 ай бұрын
Even the Gen Z didn't want it.
@humesspoon3176
10 ай бұрын
Shit, I'm one of those "woke" people your grandparents speak of, and yet, I still think it's an abomination. They turned serious political concerns into trendy pop culture.
@CRGR1997
10 ай бұрын
Everyone blames the young gen but not the out of touch conservatives who run these corporations and aren't even gamers
@Gravijahz
10 ай бұрын
wait, the people in the earlier games WERE millennials. the newer game is gen z. gen z loves fucked up stuff, though. millennials are in their 30s and 40s now. Saints Row 2 and 3 are really big satires of early 2000s stuff, which is prime millenial.
@GhostRangerr
10 ай бұрын
They are Zoomers lol. Millennials grew up with the first 2 Saints Row games
Same old, same old. Developer go down and accuse producers that they are the sole reason for their fall. It’s toooootally not like they are to blame for sun-par game design and production. Even in the constriction of the publisher there is room to design. Every game is made with publisher “shackles”.
@captaincrunch1707
10 ай бұрын
These are alternative facts to the people who want to move the goalposts.
@1r0zz
10 ай бұрын
@@captaincrunch1707 Where there’s a will there’s a way, no? The problem of the Saints row reboot aren’t really that the story needed to be about friendship or the censorship. You can dodge around those limits. The problem of saints row(reboot ) is that the game just wasn’t good.
It's been a slow & painful process, but Volition is finally finished. And what a way to go out.
Idol ninja probably could generate enough electricity to power a small town spining in his grave
so what your saying is, BOYCOTT DEEP SILVER!!!!!!!!!!!
@captaincrunch1707
10 ай бұрын
Meanwhile , DeadIsland2 having massive success because it’s just a fun game with a fun narrative. It has no sjw culture war crap polluting it & proceeds to sell well. #interesting
it certainly would be a shame if the work in progress patch, along with its source code which you have access to, “accidentally” leaked online for the community to work on independently…
What a horrendous final creation. 🪦
Being part of a fandom long term always amounts to pain
All the homies hate deep silver
@Owen01
10 ай бұрын
And Embracer
If the patch doesn’t come out, pls leak your version of the patch you got to play flippy.
Let's all pitch in some money for Tyren. Let's get him the desk he doesn't need but deserves.
Mike Watson was a true legend.
When I first saw the news I was like hmmm what does flippy think about this…
@ultimatecontagion
10 ай бұрын
Same.
It feels like the only option at this point is to put pressure on Deep Silver to either do the right thing or sell the IP. Seems unlikely to work since money is involved. IdolNinja deserves the community's best efforts, even if it is in vain.
RIP Idol Ninja. We'll never get a good Saints row 2 port.
it's like the old saying "Get woke go broke."
@ghoul1713
10 ай бұрын
That doesnt even make sense you retarrd NPC most of the things that are woke earn shitton money this game was just bad
@JonnyHorseman
10 ай бұрын
@@ghoul1713the SR reboot was absolutely woke, don't pretend otherwise
@1KQ_
10 ай бұрын
Absolutely impressive how Soulless they managed to make the latest game.
@omfgpainkillers
10 ай бұрын
Saying the game failed because it was too woke is absurdly stupid and lets Deep Silver off the hook too easily. Would the game have been better if everyone was the opposite of woke? No, it would still have been a boring buggy floaty mess that misses the mark on every level.
@JonnyHorseman
10 ай бұрын
@@omfgpainkillers the game being woke is only HALF the reason it flopped, I'm tired of people claiming otherwise
Get woke go broke
If IdolNinja’s work is wasted I’ll never forgive Deep Silver.
watching blizzard falling like this with popcorn.
Glad that you’re posting 🙂❤️
We gotta do some kind of #sr2patch riot. But then again I highly doubt that it'll get their attention.
I was waiting for flippy to upload about this throughout the whole day.
Here's to all the good times! Thank you Volition.
"Giving the fans what they want wont sell or make money, instead lets give them the opposite of what they want and stuff it with as much garbage as possible, yeah that will sell millions" - Deep Silver