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Yes! I am glad that someone else loves the older Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 for Nikon as much as I do. I just took a look and was surprised how many of the photos on my wall (3) were taken with this lens. I picked one up in 2019 and took it on a month-long trip through SE Asia along with a Voigtlander 58mm f/1.4 and a Nikon FM3a. Such a wonderful travel combo. I also have several framed photos taken with my Zeiss ZM 28mm f/2.8. A lens that I don’t think gets as much love as it deserves. People just point out it’s test chart and say it’s a weak lens, but it takes wonderful images. I want to try the new Voigtlander 28mm f/2, but I haven’t bought any new lenses in over 3 years, and I am trying to really master the collection I have already.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Thanks Zach! Yes great lens. I use the SL on my Nikon film bodies too for a compact bombproof travel kit. I ordered the black 28/2.8 LTM for my black Barnack as that is as bombproof (no RF) and smaller. The f2 II is excellent if you eventually break your GAS fast :)

Already have a VM Type II on order. The 28mm series by feels like a must have.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Excellent, yes after this video it looks like a must own lens

What Nikon F to LTM adapter did you use? Many unfortunately are Nikon F to M39 instead of L39 and would not fit into a LTM camera without stripping the threads.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Mine is just a cheap Chinese one. It might be M39 but it fit OK

Great comparison Matt 👍👍👍 Btw, have u compared Zeiss 35mm f2 biogon with voigtlander ultron 35mm f2 II?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Thank you! I've not but I'd expect the Biogon to win. (I have a different older 35mm f2.8 Biogon and it's good.

I really tried to adopt the Nikon-mount version of the 28 in the past, but I just can't get over the backwards focusing. 🙃

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Haha yes a fair point! It takes some getting used too. (Like the LLL ELCAN copy - copy of the Leica military lens that was made to be the same direction as Nikon so all military lenses turned the same direction)

Thanks for the review. I do not have a 28mm for my Leica M rangefinder. If I ever feel the need for one, I will keep this video in mind. I do have the following 28mm lenses: 28mm f/2.8 Nikkor for Nikon F-mount SLRs 28mm f/3.5 Nikkor for Nikon F-mount SLRs 28mm f/3.5 Pentax Takumar for Spotmatic SLRs 28mm f/2.5 Vivitar for M42 mount SLRs 28mm f/2.8 Zeiss Biogon for Contax G1 rangefinders 28mm f/2 Zeiss Distagon for Nikon F-mount SLRs I have been very satisfied with the images produced by all of them. I tend to use them in the following kits: 14/28/55mm on SLRs 28/50/105mm on SLRs 28/50/135mm on SLRs 21/28/45/90mm on rangefinders

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

5 ай бұрын

Thanks, nice! I use the small Voigtlander 28 on my SLRs for size and there are many great 28s for M mount. 2 more fast 28s just realised so those videos to follow soon.

You are tireless. Much admiration.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Thanks, sorry it’s pretty much all I do! (+ exercise)

@vinylisland6386

10 ай бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom If you're unlucky, photography becomes an all-consuming obsession. If you're lucky, photography becomes an all-consuming obsession.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

@@vinylisland6386 I tick that box! I eat, sleep, exercise and do photography related stuff. Almost nothing else (honestly) It works for me.. and luckily it’s my job now!

Hi Matt. Congratulations for your tireless work (even though that goes against my finances). I have seen almost all your videos and I am between a 28/40mm set and/or a 35/50.....or a mix between the four haha. I like Voigtlander Ultron / Apo, but I think there are good models in different brands. Which pair would you choose? Greetings.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

8 ай бұрын

Thanks! Hmm tough. I use 28/40 for walkabout on my Leica iii cameras. I use 50mm for portraits most of the time.

Great video Matt! I just purchased a SL typ 601 and will be getting either the M4-P or the M6! I’m looking for a 28mm and with so many different options I’m pretty confused! Any suggestions? I love the Voightlander lenses! Thanks

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Thanks! If you'll use mostly on SL get the Typ II Skopar (see first video or blog linked below), if 50:50 film too perhaps the Typ I. If you want the best and need a faster lens for film as per video one the Ultron 28/2 II is the best performer.

@ronanderson5736

10 ай бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thank you very much for information Matt, I really appreciate that! I may just get the 40 and 28mm! Haha! Voightlander has done an amazing job with there lenses, both quality and prices! Have a great weekend!

How does it compare to the Voigtlander ULTRON Vintage Line 28mm f/2 Aspherical VM Type II

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

See previous video. Ultron II wins

Question: When using M-mount lenses on an SL2-s with the Leica adapter, does the EVF view automatically zoom in like it does when using the L-Mount lenses in manual focus?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

2 ай бұрын

Maybe with Leica L-M adapter. I’ve not noticed it with SL so possible no

@Loop1Photography

Ай бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom ok thanks

Would you recommend the Skopar or the canon ltm on film? Mostly shoot 5.6+. Thanks!!

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

5 ай бұрын

Skopar 200%! For digital the Canon takes the clinical edge off but now I have the Skopar I use that for film.. it beats the Elmarit for film too as more contrast.

Always a brilliant review Matt! Love the size of the colour Skopar. I'd love to work with it.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I am considering the Zeiss Biogon 28mm or the new Voigtlander 28mm Color Skopar VMII. If I can get either at essentially the same price point, do you have a recommendation? I shoot only film on a Leica M6. Other that the size difference is one better optically for film?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

9 ай бұрын

I don't own the 28mm ZM Biogon but I have the 21mm and 25mm. I love the Skopar size but I'm pretty sure the Biogon will win for performance (more contrast and pop).. based on 21/25 ZM

@kellykendrick7

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for the video and the advice!! @@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

Hey mat! I’m stuck between elmarit 28 11606 and voigthlander 28mm type 2! I mostly shoes landscape and occasionally street. And I mixed it up with color and b/w Can you recommend me one based on your experience? Budget is not a problem I just want to stick with one lens thank you!

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

7 ай бұрын

Ultron v2 is the best 28mm for M mount that i've used. I'd expect the 28 Biogon to be good too back on the 21 & 25 I have. (See part 2 of this video linked under the video)

We talked about the Nikon many months ago and when you posted the last video I thought… “hang on a second mate…” 😂

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Haha, glad you spotted it! I think most will overlook the SLIIS lens as it's not on people's radar

There is a newer Color-Skopar version of the SL Nikon F mount, it is the SLIIS. Great little lens.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Yes! Sorry I have the earlier one. Damn I forgot to show the screenshot of the new model.. I had planned too. Great they released the SLIIS

@Guairenito

10 ай бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom it close focus up to 0.15m 🤪🤪

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

@@Guairenito amazing!

@ofeykalakar1

10 ай бұрын

I’m sure they will have a Z-mount version too

Hey Mat Can you direct me to your adapter to fit Nikon F lenses to the Barnack LTM screw mount ?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Hi John, I can't directly.. I found it on eBay some years ago, search Chinese Nikon F - LTM and that's what I use

@johnleebold8894

10 ай бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thank you will do 👍

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

@@johnleebold8894 mine is F - M39*

is your Elmarit the 11606 or 11677?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

9 ай бұрын

11606 👍🏻

Thank you for this nice comparison Matt. Anyone ever told you you look e bit like Edward Norton? hehehe

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Thanks and haha I've been called much worse!

the Nikon 28mm SLIIS is such a brilliant lens, it focuss to down to 15cm, yet it is cheaper, it is still one of the smallest lens for Nikon F mount. Just 1 questinon, my 28mm SLIIS vignette at f2.8 quite significantly, how does it compare to the M-mount lens you have.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

9 ай бұрын

Great! Yes for Nikon shooters those SL lenses are great. See part one of this video to see the vignetting. It's part of my lens testing.

I totally forgot the f mount version existed 😂. I'm a close focus addict.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Great! I'm glad you saw this then. 0.22mm mmmmm so good!

@ryanbeer5262

10 ай бұрын

Especially on a WA. I've got a 90's vintage Sigma 24 I've kept just because it'll do 1:4

"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.." Henri Cartier-Bresson.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Yes agreed, especially in real world use.. but nothing annoys me more than a trip away shooting film, getting the negs back and all for nothing as the photos are soft and mushy. I've been burnt before. (Most lenses here will be fine especially shooting with the light. Orion-15 is softer). Then it's what you do with them that makes the images.

What about the Color Skopar 3.5 / 28mm

@Sebastianlemm

10 ай бұрын

… it’s a tiny screw mount and seems to be mostly available (used) in Japan.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Available in M & LTM. the smallest Voigtländer true M lens, see that video

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

@@Sebastianlemm M mount too. LTM Is identical to 25 shown here (& 21 mm)

The ultron II is still better though, right?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Yes.. sorry I should have recapped that.. from my simple test anyway. (the Elmarit falls short being an older lens and less good coatings into the light)

28 mm lenses should be tested corner to corner of the full frame.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Yes fair point Harry. In part 1 I test the 28mm Skopar to the corners. It's not terrible but improves stopping down

I really need to stop watching more video's about those little CV 28/2.8 lenses... That VM Type 1 would pair very nice with the 40/2.8 Heliar I have been lusting after to make a great walk around/small combo. Not to say my 28/2 & 35/2 Ultron II combo is huge... Thanks again Matt...

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Haha we think alike! I've ordered the black LTM 28/2.8 so that will pair with my 40/2.8 for my EDC Barnack setup for travel. Amazing combo..and then yes an M with 28/2 or 35/2 for low light or I use 35/2, 50 APO, 90 APO on the M for sharp travel film photo kit - like my Lisbon trip

@mwales2112

10 ай бұрын

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I have been thinking about replacing my Zeiss 50/2 Planar with either 50/1.5 Nokton MC II or the 50 APO. Is that 50 APO huge compared to the 50/2 Nokton II?

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

@@mwales2112 the APO is bigger, see video, but the best performance from Voigtlander

😊

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I think its a shame that such a talented photographer wastes his time with gear reviews, presumably to make money. Plus if basically all of them are pretty sharp, theres virtually no difference in real world use at say f5.6. Then you dump them when something smaller cheaper or better comes along.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Thanks Adam, I guess with a science and accounting/ audit background I just love testing stuff! Once I know it works I rarely pixel peep again and can just use it in confidence. Yes I love small so if new small versions are released I'm always interested (especially if they can be used on the vintage film cameras.. I enjoy those the most)

@AdamCzarnowski

10 ай бұрын

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Try the 21mm super angulon, does close focus, full of character and, for Leica, inexpensive.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

@@AdamCzarnowski thanks I will if I get a chance

Be careful Matt. You are becoming a Voigtlander talking advert. I have tried them. They are way overpriced and no better than the AIS Nikons and FD Canons that I use on my M43 cameras. And certainly no better than the Leica/Panasonic lenses that are very affordable on the M43 and L mount. You should have taken more notice of what Peter Coulsen said.

@bradl2636

10 ай бұрын

The newer SLIIS 28mm f2.8 beats the AI-S 28mm f2.8 SIC comfortably IMHO. I can’t speak for M43 or L mount not my thing. The 28mm f2 Ultron II nudges all of the f2.8s though IMHO. I buy VM/VE lenses to avoid the usual problems with vintage glass and the premium is worth it not to mention the discount vs Leica.

@rumrill5020

10 ай бұрын

I use M43 lenses on my OM-5 and happily use Voigtlanders on my M camera.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for your thoughts Steve. I just rave about what I like. Some videos it might be cheap Chinese lenses like the TTA 50/0.95 or 28/5.6. Sometimes cheap vintage lenses, sometimes even cheap Lumix lenses but as I love properly made metal and glass RF lenses that normally brings me to Leica Voigtlander and Zeiss (for current production models). I have MANY Nikon AIS and other lenses as an ex-Nikon shooter so I know them. The 28 2.8 AIS is excellent but I will always use the SL version as it's half the size and the same performance. Don't worry, I do test these things mostly for myself so I know what I want to use. Hope that helps.

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Correct Brad, I own the AIS and SL and Ultron II. I even made that "selling Leica" video when the Ultron II beat my 28mm Summicron (which then got sold).

@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

10 ай бұрын

Some M42 lenses are fun, I have some from my Nikon days but for RF cameras Voigtlander are doing great.