Thank you Mr Abbott

Thanks a lot for the review, Dustin! I watch your channel regularly and appreciate the tremendous amount of work you put in your reviews. Your channel deserves a lot more followers, at least 10x more. I suspect that it's not growing as fast as other inferior channels because of the length of the videos. You usually make a series of 3 or more videos for each lens review, which is great if people have the time. Most people, however, prefer something much shorter and not divided. I think working on this would add a lot more to your already excellent channel, which I look forward to seeing at among the most popular KZread photography channels with millions of subscribers. Thanks again and best of luck. Yasser

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

Something about you Dustin makes me like watching your reviews. I think its your laid back appeal and calmness. Your reviews are pretty amazing, you get all the positives and negatives in a non bias way. I do have a request if you are ever able to get your hands on the voigtlander 40 1.2 it'll be nice to see a review or maybe a quick overview.

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

It’s in my ‘to-do’ list

Great image gallery Dustin. Happy to hear you bought the Voigt. The Voigt 65mm was the second camera lens I ever owned(I haven't been shooting for long). I pre-ordered it before release....I just had a really good feeling about it. It definitely set the bar high for me and has kept me from buying other inferior lenses out there. I give this lens considerable credit for my newfound love for photography as well. The a6500+Voigt 65mm APO F2 was quite the radical change from an Iphone.

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

I can imagine it was a raidical change!

Thanks! I have the VM Nokton Classic 40mm f1.4, VM Color-Skopar 21mm f4, Color-Skopar 35mm f2.5 all performing very well and beautiful rendering paired with a close focus helicoid adapter on the Sony A7iii. I bought the VM Ultron 28mm f2 that is arriving next weeks. The Nokton 50mm f1.5 is the next I will buy. I am a Voigtländer addicted! Beautiful lenses! Try those small pancakes if you have the opportunity! I prefer the small beast and dont mind they being "slow"! They are always ready to go with me!

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

I own the 20mm f/3.5 and owend the 40mm f/2 Ultron. Lovely lenses.

I have this. It is a truly beautiful lens - IQ is near perfect as you can get from a7r3. And highly underrated. So few people seem to be interested in it. Really looking forward to its brother with longer focal length and 1:1 macro.

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

That should be an interesting lens, and yes, other than a little bit of "onion" bokeh, the IQ is essentially perfect.

@jro669

6 жыл бұрын

Definitely agree, I can swear the sharpness levels are close to Zeiss Otus levels. I think the only I don't like is the focus throw is a bit long though that's a bit understandable in a macro lens.

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

That's my feelings as well. IQ most closely resembles the Otus 1.4/85mm, IMO

Great review like always, Dustin! This one seems to be a winner, but 65mm is much too short for my kind of macro work. Can't wait for the 2.5/110mm APO-Lanthar to be available - that one I guess I will buy, though I already own lots of Macro lenses :-)

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

That should be an interesting lens, for sure.

I have and love it. Fantastic IQ and build quality. The one area where I think it could be better is how the focus throw is mapped. Very, very little throw is reserved for the non-macro region, making it necessary to dial in really minute movements when trying to focus on something in the -say- 10 or 20m range. Of course peaking and zooming helps a lot, but it can be finicky.

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

That's true of most lenses like this. It really makes you realize how many focus possibilities there are at close to medium range.

I own the 50mm F1.2 Nokton on a Leica SL. Next is the 21mm F1.4 nokton for VM. I’m sure Voigtlander will eventually make this lens in VM.

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

There's some beautiful Voigtlander lenses out there.

I'd say Cosina Voigtlaender is modern classic. They found their way by persuading customers to feel nostalgic, yet they are providing supply for niche market. They provide super fast F0.95 lenses for Mircro Four Thirds, usually MFT users are hungry for low light performance and shallow DOF. And for the FF mirrorless users, they also provide characteristic, light weight, super wide lens or optically near perfect macro lens. I love their approach.

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

I agree that they have been smart, and their prices are typically more reasonable than Zeiss lenses.

@MrJAM-np7go

6 жыл бұрын

Dustin Abbott Yeah, Compare to similar market position lenses, say Zeiss Loxia, Otus or Milvus, Voigtlaender lenses are somewhat reasonable for their price. Also I'm a big fan of vintage look of Voigtlaender compared to modern looking Zeiss. Old MF lenses with focus distance and DOF scale are so much beautiful to me.

Native e-mount manual lenses like the Zeiss Loxia, Voightländer and Laowa are made for the e-mount 18mm flange focal distance. With an adapter they will be usable on the Nikon Z mirrorless cameras which have 16mm flange focal distance. The difference of focal flange distances looks very small. However there are adapters for micro 4/3 lenses on the Sony e-mount cameras. Fotodiox has one. The Micro 4/3 flange focal distance is 19.25mm and the e-mount 18mm. The difference between Nikon Z mount 16mm and Sony E-mount 18mm focal flange distance is significantly larger.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

It will be interesting how the adapting market reacts to the Z and RF mounts.

@AgnostosGnostos

5 жыл бұрын

Dustin Abbott Thank you very much for the reply. The Canon RF mount has a long flange focal distance of 20mm and is impossible to adapt manual e-mount 18mm, micro 4/3 19.25mm, L mount 20mm, EF-M mount 20mm, X mount 17.7mm, lenses without the loss of focus to infinity. The much shorter Z mount 16mm can receive more lenses which have been manufactured for longer flange focal distances. One of the reasons I prefer manual lenses for my Sony α7 camera is their adaptability and lower price. I used to be restricted with Canon EF mount and I didn't like that. Camera manufacturers have enormous profits from their lenses. For example Canon and Nikon never allowed Zeiss to produce an autofocus lens for their mounts. On the other hand Sony was very open with the e-mount and the focus peaking, focus magnification have made manual focus fast and easy. People have appreciated that and Canon and Nikon nowadays try to imitate Sony. But it's too late. Also many unknown Chinese and Korean lens manufacturers exploited that with affordable and bright manual e-mount lenses. During late 80's and 90's there was the autofocus war in the industry of photography. Back to the manual focus.

I had a nice Voigtlander lens for my GH4 and I remember the colour it produced being stunning. I’d be curious to know how you feel about the colour rendition from this lens?

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

The color rendering is absolutely fantastic. Definitely a Voigtländer strength (I've owned three of their lenses).

@NickGranville

6 жыл бұрын

Dustin Abbott fantastic, I think I’ll have to get one

Hi Dustin, great reviews! Would you consider review Sony, Sigma & Samyang/Rokinon 35mm f1.4 lens for Sony FE?

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

That is in my future plans.

The Voightlander 65mm APO is one of my favorite lenses for the Sony A7riii.... Also try adapting the (older) Tokina 90mm 2.5 "Bokina" -- you will be pleasantly surprised!

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

Interesting

@yitzchallevi8208

6 жыл бұрын

I can't say enough about the older Tokina 90mm f/2.5 AT-X Macro (i.e., the "Bokina"). Check out the Flickr pages on the lens and read some reviews. If you can't find a good copy let me know and I might lend you mine so you can test it for yourself. Shalom pastor.

@yitzchallevi8208

6 жыл бұрын

To each his own; my Bokina renders as well as my new Voightlander 65 APO.

please include the explanation on APO vs non-APO lens on the next video on this lens! I really like to know moree :)) Thanks for the videoo

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

I'll include that in the final review.

@MrJAM-np7go

6 жыл бұрын

Apochromatic lenses can focus 3 different wavelengths of light(usually RGB) on the same point. In term of camera lens, it usually means free of chromatic aberration, both transverse(usually red,blue) and axial(usually green, purple) chromatic aberration.

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

Nicely stated.

Dear Dustin, thank you again for this review. I'm considering this lens as a Christmas gift for myself. :) Before that, I'll try shooting a bit in MF mode with my 55/1.8 to make myself comfortable with lack of AF. Could please tell me, in case with 65/2, do you see the aperture value in real time in EVF? Or you need looking at the barrel each time for controlling it? Also there's a little hint for future videos: instead of 2 alternating photos with "zoomed" in-out lens it would be nice if there was a little time-lapse animation of barrel extension.

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

You see aperture real time. It fully communicates electronically.

Hey, i will buy a a7r3 in the near future and want to ask you what lens is better for architecture photography - the Sigma art 14mm or the Zeiss Batis 18mm? + which second lens should i get as a allrounder, the planar 50mm or the 85mm GM? I just can afford 2 atm. Thank you very much :)

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

The Sigma has less distortion, so I think it is probably the better architecture lens.

Hi Dustin, any chance you can get your hands on a Voigtlander Nokton Classic 35mm f/1.4 Lens for review?

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

Probably, though as you can understand, it's not going to be a priority with so many new lenses being released.

Hi Dustin, thank you for your review. It is very interesting. I have had this lens for few years now. It is my favourite lens. Dustin, what do you think about Voigtlander 50mm f2 and 110mm f2.5? Thank you. Aga

@DustinAbbottTWI

4 жыл бұрын

I'm actually getting in the 110mm and 40mm F1.2 at the end of the week to review.

@agnieszkabenko9251

4 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI Hi Dustin, thank you. I am looking forward to this review 🙂 Aga

Zeiss Vs Voig - both produced in the same factory ! Good review but once again it highlights the issue with Sony FF mirroless having a mount designed for a crop sensor 😎😎😎

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

Not quite sure what the issue is that you refer to. The flange distance for any mirrorless camera is different.

I’m curious to see how you think it compares with Zeiss 50mm f2 Makro

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

It's even sharper than the 2/50 MP, though the Milvus version of the MP adds weather sealing. I personally like the Voigtländer better for a few reasons.

Hi Dustin - so now I'm choosing between the 65mm f2 or the Sony 90mm macro for my A7rii. which do you think is the best all rounder (portraits and macro, ease of use etc) I'd be interested to get your view if you have time. Thanks Dave

@DustinAbbottTWI

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm, an autofocus lens is easier to use for most things save macro (I prefer manual focus there). I love the IQ on the Voigtlander, but the Sony is a beautiful lens too. I'm afraid I don't really have a strong opinion.

@davidburton2294

2 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks Dustin I'm sure they are both great!

@davidburton2294

2 жыл бұрын

@@DustinAbbottTWI I went with the Viltrox 85mm F1.8 II after all that. The Aussie dollar tanked so i bought the viltrox which replaced my Samyang 75mm which I sold. If I was rich I would have bought the Voightlander 65mm f2 though.

40mm Voightlander sounds cool, except for the manual-focus part.

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

I understand that, though, frankly, MF is less of a big deal on a Sony body.

OMG. how is this compared to the newly released Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 110mm f/2.5 Macro? i hope you'll get to review it and make a comparison. thanks.

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

I’ll look at it at some point

Is there an adapter for this lens to fujifilm X

@DustinAbbottTWI

5 жыл бұрын

I'm not particularly familiar with Fuji products, but I'm not aware of such an adapter.

Pretty sure the people who make the voigtlander lenses also makes Zeiss lenses too 😉

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

That's a more accurate viewpoint.

Not truly apochromatic but really as close as it gets. The IQ is near perfection for a consumer camera lens.

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

In what way is it not fully apochromatic in your mind?

@AminTheMystic

6 жыл бұрын

Macro Cosmos - What do you mean "consumer camera lens"? There is nothing inferior about this lens's build at all.

@diatomsaus

6 жыл бұрын

Not in my mind, it's a fact. The apo-lanthar coats glass with lanthanum, which is purified and made eco-friendly to abide by rohs standards. Truly apochromatic lenses will be priced at way above $1000 for sure. Even the 135 Milvus could be fishy. Not doubting the image quality or the build, just rather pointing to the fact that some manufacturers are using the term "apo" for marketing. An apochromatic element group features usually 3 elements, which is called a triplet. Of course there's doublets or even single lenses that fulfill the criteria of bring apochromatic (which are extremely expensive). Apochromatic isn't a type of glass or the layout, but rather the CA and spherical aberration performance of the lens. Strict testing is required to determine whether the lens deserves the designation or not. For example, the otus 85 and 55 lenses are truly apochromatic, and hence their seemingly ridiculous pricetag. Simply coating glass with lanthanum doesn't make the lens apochromatic. Unless Voigtlander can show the testing results, I'm inclined to believe that the apo designation is simply for marketing. Sigma has a bunch of so called "apo" lenses, they even have the audacity to label their old crusty 70-300 apo, which it is 100% not. I call these fakepos. With Zeiss and voigtlander, at least we get apochromatic-level of performance.

@diatomsaus

6 жыл бұрын

What do you mean "consumer camera lens"? I'm talking about optics that can be purchased by everyone. Consumer = for consumers to buy and use. Industrial: For use in the industry Scientific: Use in the field of science, usually the best. Military: As the label implies, highly optimised for performance. And no, consumer doesn't imply poor build. I have an entry-level scientific objective that is built as fragile as those dinky kit 16-55 zooms. One drop and it's gone, actually if I store it the wrong way for too long, it will decenter itself lol. I have to treat it like a baby. Not going be happy if I need to buy another.

@AminTheMystic

6 жыл бұрын

Macro Cosmos - Alright, you know what you are talking about. It is consumer grade and it cannot match specialist lenses like Coastal Optical, Macro Varon or Nikon Scanner lenses. But as far as I can find out - at consumer level there aren't any better-corrected lenses. Not even the Otuses. So VOigtlander aren't trying to fob people off.

Great video! For a manual lens at $1000, I honestly think the FE 90mm f2.8 Macro G OSS is a better one. It can easy double as a portrait lens, plus it's got OSS and auto focus.

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

The two lenses aren't really comparable for a lot of reasons. The Voigtländer is at a completely different level of optical performance.

@AminTheMystic

6 жыл бұрын

Qibilii - Fair point. For out and out macro work - the Sony is better as it is 1:1 and delivers fantastic IQ. But this Voigtlander is more of a general purpose lens that does macro. It has better IQ and the rendition it delivers - especially at f/2.8 for portraits is just unmatched.

@MrJAM-np7go

6 жыл бұрын

Cosina will release 110mm F2.5 1:1macro APO Lanthar soon. I think this lens is more comaprable to Sony 90mm F2.8 macro

@manthony1921

6 жыл бұрын

F2 vs F2.8 is why I chose the Voigt, plus most of us already have fast 85mm primes so the 90mm becomes redundant. The 90mm is a stellar lens of course, but who wants an 85mm and a 90mm prime.

@MrJAM-np7go

6 жыл бұрын

M Wood Actually I have secondhand Tokina 90mm F2.5 macro and Canon 100mm F2 lens. Both are very much capable for their application, and cheaper than 1 modern 90mm or 100mm F2.8 Macro lens. Anyway I love goldilocks approach like 65mm F2, too.

OMG! sony again!!!!

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

Good news - a Canon lens arrives today! It's been a very slow season for new Canon releases and a very busy one for new Sony releases.

I have two, soon three, Voigtländer lenses, and those lens caps are just incredibly flimsy. Fortunately, the lenses are quite the opposite!

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@manthony1921

6 жыл бұрын

Sigma and Samyang lens caps pop off easily too. They all kinda stink.

So, the best reviewer in youtube move to sony... as a canon shooter that follow all your work I will miss your opinion/reviews about canon equipment. Why do you change?

@DraculaNosferatu123

6 жыл бұрын

I think he use both brands Canon and Sony

@manthony1921

6 жыл бұрын

I certainly wont speak for Dustin but if you have used Sony's newer cameras you would have a better idea of why he is covering Sony more now. Sony is also the hottest and fastest growing market right now.

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

I haven't left Canon. I use both, but Canon releases have been few and far between recently. I've got the Canon 70-200mm f/4L IS II arriving today, however.

@DustinAbbottTWI

6 жыл бұрын

Not to mention that there have been MANY new Sony releases this year and few Canon ones.