Vocal Fry and Upspeak - Kate Kelleher

A voice is a distinctive signature. It can inspire nostalgia, confidence or havoc depending on its pitch, intensity, and quality. Recently, women on radio have been receiving criticism for the sound of their voice. Some listeners are making condescending remarks about speech patterns that may be signs of gender shifts and access in the radio world. Is it generational? Is it a lack of formality and disrespect? You decide!
PechaKucha Night Asheville vol 13
November 18, 2016

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  • @Quasmay
    @Quasmay3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like she’s consciously trying to limit her upspeak

  • @brianhagge1112
    @brianhagge11124 жыл бұрын

    NPR is upspeak and vocal fry central!

  • @brianhagge1112

    @brianhagge1112

    2 жыл бұрын

    @B0omer96 it used to be worth something waaaaay back. It’s rotten from the inside out with “donations”

  • @brianhagge1112

    @brianhagge1112

    2 жыл бұрын

    @B0omer96 yeah I loved them in the 90’s. Pretty sad.

  • @KpxUrz5745

    @KpxUrz5745

    2 жыл бұрын

    Correct. The overall tone used by most speakers on NPR is so thoroughly obnoxious that I cannot stand even 2 minutes of it. One could write a book about all the psychological reasons behind this, but I think the main thing is their innate sense of superiority, pride in the sureness that their ideas (not Yours!) are so correct, and their pervasive sense that they are "holier than thou". I consider all of NPR speakers to be phony, tendentious, and obnoxious beyond words.

  • @ashsnipe

    @ashsnipe

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s bc they’re never confident about what they say .

  • @robhulson

    @robhulson

    27 күн бұрын

    @@ashsnipe It's virtuous to not know what you're, you know, talking about?

  • @chopsauce2397
    @chopsauce23974 жыл бұрын

    She has mild vocal fry!

  • @mylink.orb17
    @mylink.orb17 Жыл бұрын

    Don Draper & Darth Vader have the only acceptable forms of vocal fry 😁

  • @Apollo_Blaze
    @Apollo_Blaze4 жыл бұрын

    So glad to see people telling others that speaking this way, by making everything sound like a question, makes them sound like idiots. Thank you for this.

  • @user-hr8pz6lh5w

    @user-hr8pz6lh5w

    2 жыл бұрын

    Really

  • @acamon

    @acamon

    2 жыл бұрын

    So glad to see comments showing that people haven't understood the video, makes them sound like idiots.

  • @Man.from.the.90sgeneration

    @Man.from.the.90sgeneration

    Жыл бұрын

    Speaking like idiots it's not because of age but social complex

  • @PostcardsfromAlaska

    @PostcardsfromAlaska

    6 ай бұрын

    @@acamontotally.

  • @paullowman9131

    @paullowman9131

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes, really. These are affectations that are turnoffs.@@user-hr8pz6lh5w

  • @casparuskruger4807
    @casparuskruger48075 жыл бұрын

    I can remember specifically the first time I heard someone speak with upspeak. It sounded absolutely bizarre. I first heard it back in the late 60's when beauty pageant contestants were being interviewed.

  • @Pablo123456x

    @Pablo123456x

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sadly today you can hear it in post doctoral dissertations too.

  • @Rollwithit699

    @Rollwithit699

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vocal fry sounds pompous. Upspeak and "like" sounds unintelligent.

  • @casparuskruger4807

    @casparuskruger4807

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Rollwithit699 --There 's a few more of these more recent --and somewhat amusing in daily speech quirks, that I have identified --AND have been given a label!

  • @casparuskruger4807

    @casparuskruger4807

    3 жыл бұрын

    One of them is "An Ohhh Quoter"

  • @Rollwithit699

    @Rollwithit699

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@casparuskruger4807 What's that? Can you describe? Thanks.

  • @morgenholz
    @morgenholz Жыл бұрын

    When someone talks to me with up speak, making everything sound like a question, I tell them if they want the conversation to continue they will need to knock it off.

  • @arupian666
    @arupian6665 жыл бұрын

    I'm literally surrounded by mid 20's to early 30's women at work. They ALL talk with fry and uptalk. I swear they try to out-fry each other. Honestly, it makes me want to set them on fire. Edit: It's intern time. My dept is one huge growl-a-thon now. Girls and guys. 100% Growling. 100% of the time. Kid behind me has it turned up to 11.

  • @Pablo123456x

    @Pablo123456x

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good lord you are in hell. I really feel for you. Thankfully it's not yet speeding to my country.

  • @tpink3792

    @tpink3792

    4 жыл бұрын

    Do they say literally too?

  • @NobleHomestead

    @NobleHomestead

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tpink3792 They ACTUALLY do!

  • @xenu-dark-tony

    @xenu-dark-tony

    3 жыл бұрын

    Heaven help you!

  • @johngalvin3124

    @johngalvin3124

    3 ай бұрын

    All that fry must sound like a motorbike passing 😂😂😂

  • @ingrima4220
    @ingrima42205 жыл бұрын

    Women walking around like creacking Kardashian replicas, all sounding the same and all sounding like obnoxious 14 year olds with a vocal damage...is not a good thing. Just annoying and sad. It is learned behavior too, nothing natural about having a constant vocal fry.

  • @krysiak4483

    @krysiak4483

    3 жыл бұрын

    all language is learned behavior.

  • @paoooba

    @paoooba

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @davidreid6957
    @davidreid69572 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely LOVE this presentation. News anchors, Women in positions of authority have mistakenly fallen into this pattern. It has became so annoying to me, i sought out this discussion, yours is the best explanation i've seen. Several comedy routines have also provided good insights.

  • @Pablo123456x
    @Pablo123456x4 жыл бұрын

    It's funny how she still does the vocal fry and the uptalk thing in every other sentence. I guess there's no coming back from it in the US

  • @NobleHomestead

    @NobleHomestead

    4 жыл бұрын

    We're done for!

  • @tpink3792
    @tpink37924 жыл бұрын

    How about starting every sentence with so?

  • @xenu-dark-tony

    @xenu-dark-tony

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hearing that right through the past year of covid interviews has all but killed me.

  • @tpink3792

    @tpink3792

    3 жыл бұрын

    @burteriksson oh and there's literally rearing its ugly head. Let's go for the trifecta and say he's sort of underrated.

  • @hyzercreek

    @hyzercreek

    2 жыл бұрын

    @burteriksson And toss in a "with that being said" every 4th sentence

  • @Simon-kv4vt

    @Simon-kv4vt

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just as bad as vocal fry and upspeak.

  • @mobiusdesigns

    @mobiusdesigns

    6 күн бұрын

    We would do this for spanish class skits to kill time… ¿Puessssss…. Que? ¡Puesssss, sí!

  • @presto709
    @presto7095 жыл бұрын

    This would be better if it had video clips with sound?

  • @mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904

    @mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904

    3 жыл бұрын

    For the most part, I agree?

  • @julieryder

    @julieryder

    2 жыл бұрын

    A little upspeak anyone?

  • @NickajackP

    @NickajackP

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good observation Michael?

  • @p123york9
    @p123york94 жыл бұрын

    As long as changing the station is an option, uptalk all you want, but about three minutes of it is all I can take, so after that, I won't be hearing it.

  • @JM-co6rf
    @JM-co6rf4 жыл бұрын

    There is a guy at my work that speaks with THE MOST HORRENDOUS FRY. You couldn't find somebody with a worse fry.

  • @xenu-dark-tony
    @xenu-dark-tony3 жыл бұрын

    They often use a list of uptalks, eg a bundle of options, a list of possibilities etc, and each time one is rattled off the tone at the end of the item drops down to exactly the same pitch. On visits to America I've found that it became obligatory at about the same time as answering a question with "I wanna say...", and about three years before starting EVERY fucking sentence with "So, ....".

  • @xenu-dark-tony

    @xenu-dark-tony

    2 жыл бұрын

    @B0omer96 That's a strange one. It's really unfortunate that we have had easy recourse to false gnashers for hundreds of years, and it has always been an object of derision not to have your own teeth. This is making many Europeans rather slow in having their gobs prettied-up a bit. Hopefully as orthodontics improve they will work out how to make teeth look vaguely natural. My grandad was an orthodontist in the early 1900s and I still have some of his samples. He went to immense trouble to avoid the polished marble look, using tints and slight re-setting of false choppers to avoid that cheap, factory finish so beloved of Beverly Hills gob vandals. When my mum was a little lass her dad, an orthodontist, bought out some bankrupt stock from a defunct tooth factory, and with the entire family helping to count them all they found they had over 1,000,000 false teeth. I think eventually they used them as the sub-base for Grandad's new garage floor.

  • @xenu-dark-tony

    @xenu-dark-tony

    2 жыл бұрын

    @B0omer96 Have you managed to avoid the twin affectations of "So, .. and "I wanna say..."? Don't be offended by the way, the British have hundreds of such sillinesses!

  • @Greenwings701

    @Greenwings701

    10 ай бұрын

    Yes, it makes everything they say sound trivial. No gravitas to speak of tragic or serious events, as we see in many newscasters. They seem disconnected from the meaning of their teleprompter words. They keep smiling.

  • @TravelerDean
    @TravelerDean4 жыл бұрын

    More and more these days the amount of Vocal Fry from the women is getting MUCH WORSE! And you can't unhear it! STOP IT NPR!

  • @landofthesilverpath5823

    @landofthesilverpath5823

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just listened to a lady on an Ezra Klein podcast and this woman was sounding so raspy, It was extremely distracting, but I didn't know what it was until I noticed a yuotube commenter mentioning it on an unrelated podcast.

  • @cordeliachase601
    @cordeliachase6014 жыл бұрын

    This woman has vocal fry

  • @shooshstar
    @shooshstar5 жыл бұрын

    As an Australian, I have to defend the upspeak a little as it is part of our intonation. The Australian accent does that but if I could charge a penny for every time I hear an American who says "like" in the wrong way, I'm like going to be totally rich!

  • @Felix_Effex

    @Felix_Effex

    5 жыл бұрын

    loik? umm doin't paitrinize moye?

  • @k1ng401

    @k1ng401

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m Australian and I don’t notice any upspeak except in young people emulating/mocking American KZreadrs... I’ll have to listen for it more.

  • @MoMcMorrow

    @MoMcMorrow

    3 жыл бұрын

    No it's not the Australian accent that does it. It's actually relatively new to Australia. My parents' generation (or even mine) didn't do it. Australians do it more than any other country it seems. (I'm over 40 btw. Dang it I'm over 50!)

  • @jimbarrofficial

    @jimbarrofficial

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, "like" out of context is akin to fingernails on a chalkboard. Most young people don't know what a chalkboard is any more.

  • @hyzercreek

    @hyzercreek

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jimbarrofficial Americans have been saying like since Maynard G. Krebs

  • @masterofpuppets566
    @masterofpuppets5666 жыл бұрын

    Upspeak is one of the most unbecoming characteristics of the millennial generation. Speak with confidence, authority, and end sentences with "."s versus "?"s

  • @peacelord

    @peacelord

    5 жыл бұрын

    And men do it, too. It's not just women.

  • @theadventuresofred19

    @theadventuresofred19

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Upspeak is a way of asking a question in UK. Today is Friday with upspeak is a question. Fry tones is just nasty.

  • @SL-pg4dh

    @SL-pg4dh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ironically as a guy i tend to upspeak when I’m feeling the most confident and comfortable. And i speak with a drop tone (which is associated with confidence and command) when I’m feeling the least confident and insecure.

  • @absolutium

    @absolutium

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SL-pg4dh Its not about confidence.. but acceptance.. you are upspeaking at your best because it is the time your mind decides is a good moment to ask for consensus.

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins70292 жыл бұрын

    NPR finally did cover this again late June '22.

  • @kosmosbjm
    @kosmosbjm5 жыл бұрын

    I’m glad someone is talking about this; however, I’m not sure what her conclusion meant-she stated that vocal fry & uptalk is shared and used mostly by young women, and also men, to feel a part of the group. She also said that fry is bad for the vocal chords. I have felt this has been a trend for years in order to feel cool or hip, but we never needed it before. What happens now, and does this continue until something else takes its place, or will everyone just continue to sound like a Valley Girl?

  • @CHEFETTE13

    @CHEFETTE13

    4 жыл бұрын

    sounds to me she was advocating it. which is stupid...sounds horrible and the fry one can damage your vocal cords.

  • @hypermark9909

    @hypermark9909

    4 жыл бұрын

    Her argument really lame by try to mix the overuse one with the normal one. The one that I really annoy is unnatural that make a person look like they are pretending or mimic some manner that they think it look cool to them. Vocal fry in some women is somewhat similar to men who are cocky (not a men who use it since most men do vocal fry in natural way, they born with lower tone.) But the cocky boy and vocal fry girl are the same since they both try to look cool to the other and pretending it that long until it becomes their habit.

  • @Lydianon

    @Lydianon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hypermark9909 Just like you're doing. 😁

  • @Greenwings701

    @Greenwings701

    10 ай бұрын

    Exactly. The sorority leaders are a certain thing, which is not necessarily a healthy kind of leadership. They can validate materialism, meanness, and cruelty. That's a certain kind of authority, and how scary.@@hypermark9909

  • @TheTalksoup
    @TheTalksoup3 жыл бұрын

    i love diane reems, i really thought she actually was 90!!! in the 50s and 60s my dad, a fireman, told me women were the first choice as dispatchers in fire and ambulance as well as police because they have clear voices, i would think vocal fry is a deterrent to those positions as for upspeak, it makes the person sound uncertain

  • @detectivefiction3701

    @detectivefiction3701

    2 жыл бұрын

    My mom always said that Diane Rheam sounded like Larry Mendello's mother (see "Leave It to Beaver").

  • @BunnySlippers82
    @BunnySlippers824 жыл бұрын

    It's a sign of wanting to be spoiled. It's shallow, pretentious, insecure, ignorant and is indicative of our materialistic rot as a society.

  • @lorrainekrimou5477

    @lorrainekrimou5477

    10 ай бұрын

    🎉🎉🎉exactly its an affected form of speaking - as soon as I hear it l 'switch' off from the talker or ask them if they need some water.😂

  • @angelwingz892
    @angelwingz8925 ай бұрын

    I had no clue why there were voices that drove me insane. My know-it-all ex husband told me I was the crazy one...that no one else heard voices as being annoying. I am relieved to know it isnt just me, and that that there really was a noticeable difference in voices that could jar your senses.

  • @luisnunes3758
    @luisnunes37585 жыл бұрын

    How do I deal with a coworker that does vocal fry? I am sorry but I can’t stand her! I don’t know what to do please help!

  • @Paddlesandknits

    @Paddlesandknits

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think it is important to always look at our own biases and how that is impacting the judgments we make about other people. Is it a generational difference? Is it a misophonia? Even things that sound cacophonous at one time can be assimilated to sound tolerable. I invite you to look at your co-worker's speaking style from a different perspective.

  • @acondorip

    @acondorip

    5 жыл бұрын

    Luis Nunes How do you deal with a coworker that happens to be blonde, or has a high-pitched voice, or has some disability? How on earth do you deal with diversity in your life?

  • @luisnunes3758

    @luisnunes3758

    5 жыл бұрын

    acondorip How do you deal with people who thinks different than you? You might not get annoyed by someone who does vocal fry, well good for you! But guess what, I do! What’s your concept of diversity then?

  • @luisnunes3758

    @luisnunes3758

    5 жыл бұрын

    Paddlesandknits no thank you 😏

  • @pryingeyes1551

    @pryingeyes1551

    4 жыл бұрын

    Make her a mouthwatering knuckle sandwich.

  • @miyojewoltsnasonth2159
    @miyojewoltsnasonth2159 Жыл бұрын

    *Question:* Males vs females. Are one of them more likely than the other to uptalk? If so ... why?

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins70292 жыл бұрын

    Did NPR bankroll this?

  • @FromDesertTown
    @FromDesertTown Жыл бұрын

    Before going down the path of rationalizing your tortured feelings about others' vocal tones by convincing yourself that you are only trying to "help" these folks from harming and demeaning themselves, please consider examining your own attitudes and whether you are approaching this "societal issue" (and/or just your emotional reaction to others' tones) from a position of understanding and compassion. I have no problem understanding people who use upspeak or "over-use" vocal fry. I don't like the way they sound, but I don't declare them to be objectively "unprofessional" or "immature". I think of it this way - learning to understand vocal tone trends is similar to learning to understand foreign accents. It improves my ability to understand more people, and makes my brain work to adapt, which is a good thing. If there is something truly wrong or dangerous about a vocal trend, it will most likely correct itself with time, and does not need the active intervention of TED talks and vocal coach youtubers legitimizing overreactions to vocal trends -- these trends will always be changing, and will always be with us. I believe an important aspect of life is learning to be compassionate and understanding in all contexts.

  • @asmrdadbod2483
    @asmrdadbod24832 жыл бұрын

    i recently tried listening to a guided meditation in which the speaker used excessive uptalk and IiIfound it very distracting

  • @doofchikadoofchicawaawaa6029
    @doofchikadoofchicawaawaa60293 жыл бұрын

    In Australia, people in Queensland speak with upspeak. The rest of Australia is more normal

  • @tstcikhthyss
    @tstcikhthyss4 жыл бұрын

    It's bad enough to make mistakes or to have bad habits, but we now live in a world where it's commonplace (accepted, encouraged even) to rationalize those negatives in some BS defensive rant.

  • @BarekHalfhand
    @BarekHalfhand9 ай бұрын

    Five years later and it's ten times worse.

  • @rickp4155
    @rickp41555 жыл бұрын

    Vocal Fry and Upspeak are reasons why older adults can't take Millenial Women seriously. To me its like fingernails on a blackboard.

  • @jeffmorrison2915
    @jeffmorrison2915 Жыл бұрын

    Kate Kellerher talks in vocal fry as well.

  • @grahaml3449
    @grahaml34495 жыл бұрын

    So...I get to listen to a talk by a speech expert, who starts every second sentence with "So..." Just as annoying as upspeak.

  • @cordeliachase601

    @cordeliachase601

    4 жыл бұрын

    Graham L She honestly sounds kinda dumb herself.

  • @kenster8270

    @kenster8270

    4 жыл бұрын

    Doesn't bother me. "So" at the beginning of a sentence is the new "Well". It just means "Listen up, here comes my statement".

  • @peterbridge9394

    @peterbridge9394

    4 жыл бұрын

    yes, yes, yes

  • @monickalynn4365

    @monickalynn4365

    4 жыл бұрын

    I will take the "So" anyday over fry,uptalk for sure

  • @VibhorWase
    @VibhorWase4 жыл бұрын

    Speech on fry using fry.. We're doomed!

  • @Felix_Effex
    @Felix_Effex5 жыл бұрын

    "how to spot a lying control freak", should be the title..

  • @Truthist1776
    @Truthist17765 жыл бұрын

    Diane Rehm isn't a reanimated mummy? Seeing people from radio is always a shock, but this one takes the cake. I haven't listened to NPR in decades and I thought she had one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel, back then. The thing I noticed most about NPR voices is the ones playing music always had their mics too hot and you could hear every smack of their lips and the moisture in their mouths with every syllable.

  • @egparis18

    @egparis18

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm squirming in sympathy.

  • @Lydianon

    @Lydianon

    Жыл бұрын

    Gawd I hate that sound.

  • @bginnj
    @bginnj6 жыл бұрын

    Very informative presentation!

  • @joelspivak6622

    @joelspivak6622

    5 жыл бұрын

    How fucki no fourthlp

  • @Sherlika_Gregori
    @Sherlika_Gregori3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve seen a lot of Americans and Canadians using uptalk.

  • @Apollo_Blaze

    @Apollo_Blaze

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, its a shame that so many Americans choose to sound so dumb and unsure of themselves.

  • @mattfoley6082
    @mattfoley60825 жыл бұрын

    Also the way they pronounce certain vowels esp. short A. For example, in "that" the "a" sounds almost like "thot". I never heard anyone talk this way until a few years ago then suddenly many younger women are. WTF is happening?

  • @mattfoley6082

    @mattfoley6082

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Robert G. Thank you for replying. You're the first to corroborate what I've been hearing. I know I'm not imagining it because I hear it often.

  • @Me-lb8nd

    @Me-lb8nd

    4 жыл бұрын

    I notice that too. They quack out their vowels. I hate it. And it's not just the girls and younger women doing it.

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins70292 жыл бұрын

    Pecha Cucha?

  • @MrVvulf
    @MrVvulf11 ай бұрын

    4:40 I'm surprised the presenter didn't pick up on the association and culture of the two groups she used for examples of instances where upspeak is common. In sororities (groups of women in general) and some Asian cultures people use upspeak as a means to build consensus - and that's what upspeak is all about...not making statements, but building consensus. It's annoying to some of us because we often want to know the upspeaker's definitive point of view or stance, not be faced with a non-committal pseudo-question. Upspeak often comes off as unctuous, in an Eddie Haskell way, insincere and duplicitous.

  • @Marcotonio
    @Marcotonio Жыл бұрын

    Nah, I will keep judging people for it. I'm 30 and English is my second language. I saw the shift happening right in front of my eyes and people MY AGE who started using it without even realizing they'd been infected. Awful. Uptalk doubly so because I have perfect pitch.

  • @zazuzazz5419
    @zazuzazz54194 жыл бұрын

    I don’t even want to know these terms exist. It’s not a good thing.

  • @XahLee
    @XahLee5 жыл бұрын

    the category of this vid says: Nonprofits & Activism. lol, sounds about right.

  • @Robinicat
    @Robinicat5 жыл бұрын

    Kate, your own sentences always end in vocal fry...

  • @Pablo123456x

    @Pablo123456x

    4 жыл бұрын

    @NPC -30 it's always forced. You are just used to it.

  • @Me-lb8nd

    @Me-lb8nd

    4 жыл бұрын

    I noticed that too!

  • @barbararivera2380
    @barbararivera23803 жыл бұрын

    It seems that “old money” women use vocal fry too. Has anyone noticed how quickly young people speak nowadays? The server will introduce themselves in a restaurant or you’ll call a place of business and you can’t understand them because they’re mumbling and speaking to fast. I guess times are changing. Also when they end a sentence with “...so, yeah.”

  • @ivancarlson953
    @ivancarlson9532 жыл бұрын

    You don't have to say thank you before you exit. That's quite alright.

  • @user-hr8pz6lh5w
    @user-hr8pz6lh5w2 жыл бұрын

    I use it when mocking a Karen situation. for example "that's racist" or "I feel that..."

  • @MMMarvelous
    @MMMarvelous3 ай бұрын

    The irony is that this woman has a mild case of vocal fry herself, and she uses the recent social phenomenon of using the word "so" to begin a sentence when it's not a continuation of the previous sentence.

  • @SR-rz9uj
    @SR-rz9uj2 жыл бұрын

    She has an auditory crush on Kai Ryssdal, has she ever seen him?!? The man is 😍😍😍

  • @Believe30
    @Believe30 Жыл бұрын

    NPR... says it all...

  • @monickalynn4365
    @monickalynn43654 жыл бұрын

    Not a fan,heard it this morning by a woman reporting on NPR while getting my corona virus updates

  • @psyclotronxx3083

    @psyclotronxx3083

    3 жыл бұрын

    NPR is almost unbearable these days. Everyone is a victim (i.e., women, minorities) , and yes, vocal fry sounds pretentious. NPR clearly has an agenda. Sad.

  • @dustinbyerley7226
    @dustinbyerley72263 жыл бұрын

    Is this real? It’s a fashion voice. Period.

  • @philspill6854
    @philspill68543 жыл бұрын

    Valley Girl

  • @davelanciani-dimaensionx
    @davelanciani-dimaensionx4 жыл бұрын

    I thought this was going to be a demo of death metal vocal fry screaming. My mistake. So yeah, ... So ... yeah.

  • @ingrima4220
    @ingrima42205 жыл бұрын

    Go to Vox's video about the myth of races, and brace yourself. It's simply unbearable to listen to.

  • @cordeliachase601

    @cordeliachase601

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ingrima Or any watchmojo video

  • @BigNews2021

    @BigNews2021

    3 жыл бұрын

    I went and listen. You're right, unbearable.

  • @landofthesilverpath5823

    @landofthesilverpath5823

    2 жыл бұрын

    In more ways than one!

  • @azcarteranderson
    @azcarteranderson Жыл бұрын

    Are we allowed to identify their gender again? Sweet (with vocal fry).

  • @MrChopsticktech
    @MrChopsticktech11 ай бұрын

    It seems to me to be an American habit. I may be wrong but l haven't heard any people besides Americans do it

  • @kyleg3501
    @kyleg35014 жыл бұрын

    I am blaming Kardashian

  • @mezzofeldenkrais6131
    @mezzofeldenkrais61314 жыл бұрын

    I liked your presentation but I have to tell you that you very often have the vocal fry habit creeping in to your own delivery. Hmmm.

  • @Pablo123456x

    @Pablo123456x

    4 жыл бұрын

    She does the uptalk thing too.

  • @mezzofeldenkrais6131

    @mezzofeldenkrais6131

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Pablo123456x Since she is in this field, it might serve her well to record herself so she can see exactly what she is doing and therefore become more aware. I'd also be happy to offer her some voice coaching to help her with some of these habits.

  • @Holly-days
    @Holly-days4 жыл бұрын

    Funny... I have NEVER heard anything from a Kardashian, and have never seen anything except the occasional still photo of any Kardashian.

  • @Cl4rendon
    @Cl4rendon Жыл бұрын

    Both make me cringe.. Place a „like“ to that and it’s even worse.

  • @ambroulard
    @ambroulard4 жыл бұрын

    No we don’t all make those ridiculous vocal fry sounds as she’s chosen to assert,, and vocal fry is NOT the deep note in our voices,, why has she chosen to lie about this.....--??

  • @ianstoker1
    @ianstoker1 Жыл бұрын

    This Lady is absolutely correct. Vocal fry and upspeak is probably the worst way to talk ever!!!

  • @terrancecloverfield6791

    @terrancecloverfield6791

    Жыл бұрын

    Ever since I was made aware of it. It helps me filter out a lot of videos and cut down on social media. The way it sounds is so unappealing that I can click off and bless my ears for sparing them; the ear rape.

  • @bo9718
    @bo97186 жыл бұрын

    this is extremely unscientific, and a lame excuse to keep frying, even the presenter herself is doing it

  • @Greenwings701
    @Greenwings70110 ай бұрын

    I'm not sure where this lecture got off the bus, but it seemed abrupt. I turn off any station featuring an up speaker. It's attention-seeking and it keeps it from being about communication and the audience. I miss professional voices. The world shouldn't sound like one endless self-involved Moth story, requiring the a great amount of work on the listener's part. Combined with a strange audio effect on my radios, it's exacerbated by some kind of tinny compression or something. Unbearable. When I turn the channel that all changes.

  • @landofthesilverpath5823
    @landofthesilverpath58232 жыл бұрын

    Up-speak and vocal fry combined means you are extremely intelligent and progressive. I could never freaking stand Ira Glass's voice. So annoying!

  • @SirSmurfalot
    @SirSmurfalot3 жыл бұрын

    3:06 You mean she's *not* 90?

  • @hstevenadams1202
    @hstevenadams12025 жыл бұрын

    Huh?

  • @hyzercreek
    @hyzercreek2 жыл бұрын

    Why does she need to attack men here?

  • @BlunderCity

    @BlunderCity

    Ай бұрын

    She's a feminist. The funny thing is that she's wrong. Young women outearn young men but she's too dumb to know that.

  • @Kazbah007
    @Kazbah0072 жыл бұрын

    Vocal fry makes people sound tired. Very unpleasant.

  • @dolphmanity
    @dolphmanity4 жыл бұрын

    She basically said nothing for 7 minutes. I feel dumber for having endured this.

  • @morgantaylor517

    @morgantaylor517

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agreeee, I'm turning it off. Lameeee

  • @lkj2727
    @lkj27274 жыл бұрын

    Well idk, I don't have any hatred upon uptalking. It's sometimes rather cute(SOMEtimes). But vocal fry sounds really lazy as hell as if the person wants to just quit and go to bed. It makes me very annoyed.

  • @lauras7108
    @lauras71082 жыл бұрын

    There is no such a thing in Spanish. I've only heard the fry voice and the question intonation in the English language. If I spoke like that in Spanish, people would laugh.

  • @greggrachen5633

    @greggrachen5633

    11 ай бұрын

    Lol wrong. Then you never heard the Finnish language

  • @microbios8586

    @microbios8586

    7 ай бұрын

    That's because Spanish is fundamentally different from English. It's monotone and syllabic. You simply can't speak Spanish with English intonation without sounding unnatural and ridiculous 😂

  • @lauras7108

    @lauras7108

    7 ай бұрын

    @@greggrachen5633 certainly not and I would like it! :)

  • @lauras7108

    @lauras7108

    7 ай бұрын

    @@microbios8586 It's very common for people to adopt idioms that come from the United States. I hope that's never the case!

  • @marvwatkins7029
    @marvwatkins70292 жыл бұрын

    That's a broken organ.

  • @davidcraine7436
    @davidcraine74364 жыл бұрын

    While upspeak and vocal fry are really annoying, they are tolerable. What is intolerable is ridiculous logistical gymnastics like those used by this idiot in the video making lame excuses about vocal cords and the like. People speak like this because they hear others speak like this and end up mimicking the speech pattern because they find it popular, or clever, or whatever. It began with teenaged girls in the 1980s and now has spread to virtually everyone under the age of 50. This is from a linguistic expert quoted in The New York Times Magazine: "Deborah Tannen -- a linguist at Georgetown, who, with her book "You Just Don't Understand: Women and Men in Conversation," may have overtaken Noam Chomsky and become the best-known linguist in America -- contends that broad theorizing about uptalk is downright foolish. Speech patterns are contagious, she says, and they spread the way fads do. "There's a fundamental human impulse to imitate what we hear," she says. "Teen-agers talk this way because other teen-agers talk this way and they want to sound like their peers."

  • @hypermark9909

    @hypermark9909

    4 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree with you. Her argument really lame by try to mix the overuse one with the normal one. The one that I really annoy is unnatural that make a person look like they are pretending or mimic some manner that they think it look cool to them. Vocal fry in some women is somewhat similar to men who are cocky (not a men who use it since most men do vocal fry in natural way, they born with lower tone.) But the cocky boy and vocal fry girl are the same since they both try to look cool to the other and pretending it that long until it becomes their habit.

  • @iainqblank

    @iainqblank

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's exactly what she's saying too. Not sure why you need to be so insulting?

  • @tedwhitmer4760
    @tedwhitmer47604 жыл бұрын

    Astonishing, so many hateful comments for a simple talk. There is nothing else as annoying. I'd like to hear the hateful critics give a talk....no, I wouldn't.

  • @isabelrodriguez9780
    @isabelrodriguez97804 жыл бұрын

    I came here because I'm studying this topic, and I just have some questions: Why would anyone be annoyed by either vocal fry or upspeak? Okay, yes, you can tell it's there (if you pay close attention), but why would it annoy anyone? Next, why do some people think it's a way of trying to mask dumbness? It's literally just a speech pattern that not everyone can control. Yes, of course many of the people that use it have been, let's say "inspired" by pop culture icons, but *why does it bother you?* It's like if you were bothered by someone pronouncing the letter "s" a little more "whistled". How does it affect you? There's absolutely no need to criticise women (or anyone at all) for using it when it's part of their NORMAL way of speaking.

  • @jay-hill

    @jay-hill

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wish I knew this also! It almost seems like cilantro - how people have very different reactions to it, including those who are viscerally repulsed by it. Or maybe this mostly boils down to misogyny.

  • @Me-lb8nd

    @Me-lb8nd

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jay-hill I'm a woman, and I despise the vocal fry and the nasal speaking.

  • @jay-hill

    @jay-hill

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Me-lb8nd It sounds like you believe misogyny to be the exclusive domain of men. Regardless, I expect that there is also a directional, generational component to these strong reactions.

  • @williamhusker9140

    @williamhusker9140

    3 жыл бұрын

    . “ according to public speaking coach Diane DiResta, …people should avoid uptalk because it makes the speaker sound tentative… halting speech can undermine your authority, making it sound as if you are not sure about the facts you present.”

  • @williamhusker9140

    @williamhusker9140

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would argue it goes against traditional education in the use of verbal grammar and intonation. That’s likely why so many tend to get annoyed by it. It sounds like the speaker is trying to BS their way through a topic or conversation or portray themselves as smarter than they are or than whoever they’re speaking too.

  • @bobbowie9350
    @bobbowie9350 Жыл бұрын

    Its not a gender thing. It's for attention

  • @greendeane1
    @greendeane110 ай бұрын

    I loathe NPR, and vocal fry.

  • @sevensolaris
    @sevensolaris3 жыл бұрын

    Why is the goal for women to sound authoritative or confident? How about just sounding feminine?

  • @loreebrew38
    @loreebrew382 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely don't care if it's trendy, and all the cool people do it, vocal fry, up speaking and any type of speaking that is the "In Thing" to do makes a person sound ignorant, lazy and stupid. Not to mention they appear to be brown nosing sheep.

  • @Apollo_Blaze

    @Apollo_Blaze

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly.

  • @PatKittle
    @PatKittle4 жыл бұрын

    She loves NPR?? Those pretentious creeps have the most annoying voices of all.

  • @chriseichman8664
    @chriseichman86643 жыл бұрын

    How about some actual examples? Jeezus.

  • @wadeb.5509
    @wadeb.55092 жыл бұрын

    Men, women...you left out soooo many other genders.

  • @wtapley4786
    @wtapley47862 жыл бұрын

    it's a weird term: "vocal fry"...it's more like a croak and it's incredibly annoying, moreso than the airheaded rising inflection at the end of every statement, which truly does make the speaker sound rather light in the IQ dept and simply lack credibility

  • @jpr3665
    @jpr36655 жыл бұрын

    What a joke this presenter is, like clueless - practice what you preach

  • @bariswheel

    @bariswheel

    4 жыл бұрын

    What are you basing that on? I think her talking points were spot on and articulate.

  • @barbararivera2380

    @barbararivera2380

    3 жыл бұрын

    She is practicing what she’s preaching. She said that successful women use it.

  • @mercedes4223
    @mercedes42233 жыл бұрын

    All the people in the comments telling women how to speak... please just stop.

  • @jay-hill

    @jay-hill

    3 жыл бұрын

    YES!

  • @meganmartell4328

    @meganmartell4328

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ugh, thank you.

  • @tpink3792

    @tpink3792

    3 жыл бұрын

    By all means keep talking like this because it's clear everyone else loves it.

  • @psyclotronxx3083

    @psyclotronxx3083

    3 жыл бұрын

    Are you feeling the toxic masculinity? Good

  • @audreymuzingo933
    @audreymuzingo9336 ай бұрын

    This presentation is poorly done, sorry. There are some good factoids, but strung together haphazardly. Namely, talking about vocal fry and uptalk interchangeably from one moment to the next, when whey are distinctly different things.

  • @capitolmediasystems7451
    @capitolmediasystems7451 Жыл бұрын

    Upspeak is all you hear at woke seminars and panel discussions. So bizarre. And annoying.

  • @microbios8586

    @microbios8586

    7 ай бұрын

    I heard a female doctor being interviewed on NPR recently. Her upspeak and liberal use of "so" and "like" were so damn irritating. I couldn't take anything she said seriously!

  • @anhtai988
    @anhtai988 Жыл бұрын

    Vocal fry is sometimes cool, but uptalking, hell no, that’s just annoying

  • @joesutherland2017
    @joesutherland20174 жыл бұрын

    Vocal Fry- "also referred to as popcorning, or creaking" Actually, it's called twat growl. Makes women sound uneducated, disingenuous, and lazy. Makes men sound the same way, despite its origins supposedly in upper crust circles. Not advisable to use it in the workplace. Funny also that it is improperly used as a subject for leverage for gender equality in the workplace. When women resort to this vocal "technique", they generally sound like an unintelligent 14 year old in a food court in San Bernardino in 1981 ordering a slice of pizza.

  • @ronaldmoore8390
    @ronaldmoore8390 Жыл бұрын

    Get to the point.

  • @eyes2338
    @eyes23382 жыл бұрын

    Incredible annoying.

  • @KpxUrz5745
    @KpxUrz57452 жыл бұрын

    To prove what a phony fad it is, please recall that in the past no one used to speak like this. It is very obnoxious like so many other recent fads.