Great idea, but the autotuned vocals are terrible.

@davidhodgin8900

3 жыл бұрын

i wonder how they sound without auto tune

@symondealmeida9454

Жыл бұрын

the video is for showcasing the compressors not the singer, or the voice processing, just the compression

@soopgodreal1550

Жыл бұрын

@@davidhodgin8900they sound like they can probably sing but I’m not a fan of the tamber

@tomassimon6361

9 ай бұрын

It's mindblowing they would use this track to show off their compressors

The original, non-autotuned singer was normally priced at $249.99. This one, however, was on sale for $29.99.

@SimonTebbenhamMusic

4 жыл бұрын

Ha, and not even Black Friday!

@EsaShaheed

4 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@josevega7498

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha

@ddrumdude

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha

@gernblan99

2 жыл бұрын

Genius.

first off, back off that damn autotune. this is not a trap song

@rat.jay.music1

4 жыл бұрын

It's a Trap song

@ChadElliott2012

4 жыл бұрын

LITERALLY about to type this but decided to check the comments first to see if it was just me

@gabejohnston1556

4 жыл бұрын

@@rat.jay.music1 Billie Eilish does Trap. She doesn't autotune. Try again.

@rat.jay.music1

4 жыл бұрын

@@gabejohnston1556She is Wtf

@aarona.dubzperson8245

4 жыл бұрын

These untalented artist NEED AUTO TUNE. Not like the singers of yesteryear

The autotune is outrageous distracting

@OriginalShantivibes

4 жыл бұрын

Ta daronne sonne pas mieux sous autotune

@gregdicrosta

4 жыл бұрын

Waves Tune I would hope!! I stopped watching at "Not Lord Alge"

@innocentmwagilo406

4 жыл бұрын

True man

@sin-nx1sv

4 жыл бұрын

Shutup

@mastera1130

4 жыл бұрын

You damn right !

Please, demonstrate these nice compressors on natural sounding sources. This may be confusing for some people ...

@tonyvincentproductions

4 жыл бұрын

or ALL people for that matter.

@edrugmanmusic

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree absolutely horrendous vocal to demonstrate this

@KalleCanto

4 жыл бұрын

@@edrugmanmusic totally agree

@NIP28

3 жыл бұрын

yea... sounds to robotic.. it has eq saturation everything 🤦‍♂️

@zachary963

2 жыл бұрын

Um, I liked the effects? I thought they were fun? And I’m a novice at this stuff, I mix my own music for fun, and I heard very clear differences on all of them. Especially going from the 2A to the 3A. Besides, if you’re actually working with artists, I’m that at some point you will have a vocal like this to work with. It’s the name of the game. Imagine getting upset demoing a plugin on distorted electric guitars…

Is that Autotune or Waves Tune? Either way, it's horrendous.

@alexinstoy1984

3 жыл бұрын

@winters twilight It`s Waves Tunes.

@theleastbannedman

3 жыл бұрын

it sounds like the auto tune is out of key. this is bad

CLA-76 Blue and CLA-2A is a perfect combination here....Thanks very much because this is gonna help me a lot not just in the studio but for live gigs that I do as well...I already use CLA-76 Blue followed by Rvox and a C6 on vocals for live sound...Love it.

Why auto tune it’s horrendous.

For the first 12 seconds of the video I felt I was watching a Muppet.

Chris "Not Lord Alge" and I almost spit on monitor XD

Cool video but too much tuning to really focus on the compression comparisons

CLA-3A Sounds the Best on her Vocals !!

@KingMarino

4 жыл бұрын

Same shit I said. That shit was beautiful!!!

@rajamcraja

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! it has more presence, more cutting highs. At least for that song I think is better, but other genres might need a warmer tone like the 2A's

Wow, Casey has a great built-in autotune in her vocals! Astonishing vocal technique!

Hire someone who can actually sing (without the need for autotune) and do this video again.

@RandomRelapse

4 жыл бұрын

Preach✊

@mister_xenomorph

4 жыл бұрын

a m e n

@elcantantejr1

4 жыл бұрын

Sure man, I can't hear the voice correctly with the autotune

@Anubis_power

4 жыл бұрын

@@elcantantejr1 how can you not hear the compression when a vocal is autotuned? think you need to learn what compression is and come back to this video. Because believe or not there is such thing and pre & post compression. Both are so important to master when mixing songs. Id say more post compression is common because more use plugins these days and not outboard compressors etc. All im saying is in simple terms, the sound of the voice is nothing at all relevant when talking or learning about compression. Will hate to hear your guys comments if was they were using a violin as a example instead of vocals lol

@prodbynxne2297

4 жыл бұрын

you do know that every big artist you know uses mild auto tune to polish right

Unlistenable due to prominence of autotuning effect.

The Volume changes so much it makes it hard to compare. The auto tune makes it impossible to focus on the compressor.

@AightOAightFriends

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@joshuastratmann4026

3 жыл бұрын

Right? Everybodys complaining just about autotune, but no gainstaging makes it almost impossible to compare...

Thanks for back to back comparison. This made me realize I need to buy a hardware la3a

do this again with some listenable vocals and I might come back

Thank you for the informative video! It helps making a decision of what to buy a lot easier!

All I can say is, why?

I usually use the bluey followed by the 2A, and have love the warmth I get from the combo.

Nice comparison video. I really liked the CLA-3A. I understand that the autotune effect exaggerates the transients, but I was able to hear the attack character of the compressor clearly, which I found useful.

`you weirdos obsessing over auto tune, this clearly shows the capability and functions of the compressors and thats the videos intent good video

Finally after a year, the video of all videos!!!

FINALLY a video that compares the few. Have been scouring the internet nd found very little information.

Ofcourse you’re one of the best teacher here. God bless you 🙏

CLA are great but why this vocal with auto tune ?I can't be concentrated to the sound .

The CLA-76 Bluey (or Kramer Pie) is always my favorite. I use them on Country vocals that get wild and it tames them quickly without adding unwanted distortion. Amazing plugins!

Great Video thanks guys

As people said in the comments already, the autotune is very distracting, I think this video would have been better with natural vocals, but still good video idea to help us all out

@jamodrama

Жыл бұрын

A singer who cant sing in tune without any technical device (autotune) should never be allowed into a studio

hello, did you combine 2a - 3a - 76 in the end of the video ?

I love shoot outs! My favorite compressor out of these four on the vocal? The 76 black face worked best as the "one and done" solution in this case: FET's can really contain volume swells and the black face brought the transients to the front, which helps pop vocals since they compete for attention among other percussive elements. The FET also offered release time control, which helps in this case since it sounded like there was a reverb effect already on the vocal (?) -- heavy compression with an opto like the 2A is likely best attempted on a dry source to avoid pumping the reverb tail

On heavily vocals the dbx160 is king, there's something about VCAs that simply fits like a glove on the artifacts created by the fast pitch correction 🧤

Too much auto tune!

Thank u for this video, how to use SSL Channel to Sharpe the vocals?

CLA2A 6:44 CLA3A 6:57 CLA-76 7:09 7:21 - the first cla76 (the black one) sounds louder no? i don't think that the gain was properly compensated, which might lead to some wrong judgment

The singer was kind enough to come by and demonstrate how much natural vocals can get ruined by autotune. Bravo, dudes.

@DoartYT

2 жыл бұрын

xD right?!

I liked the comparison. I'm not sure why so many people are upset by the use of Autotune in these vocals. It's a stylistic preference that is extremely common in today's music. I can still tell the differences in the compressors perfectly fine in this video. Thanks for the video. I have all three compressors and have never tried the 3A on vocals so I'll give it a shot.

What type of mic and preamp is used to record these vocals?❤🙏

Thanks for the informative video!! (Hate the artificial tuning applied to vocal, but glad bec at least I saw the compressors).

The CLA-76 is definitely a lot warmer than the other two. I personally have the 2A and 76, may be looking to get the 3A soon as well. Cheers!

@LionOfKingston

7 ай бұрын

They on sale

beautiful

I liked the CLA-3A. Which is ironic because I had almost only been using the CLA-2A. I wasn't judging the singer and just listening. The 3A sounds like a still fat sound but close to a clean digital sound as well. Thanks. Btw, I'll be comparing these to UAD LA-2A tomorrow. Can't wait!!!

When 100% of commenters agree that you f*cked up.....

What pre amp was used for tracking her vocal?

The Chris "Not Lord Alge" Lawson got me to pause and like right off the bat lol.

Waves, I love you with all my heart ❤️

Hello, I’m a visually impaired music producer and I’m just wondering if I’m correct since you don’t go specifics in detail, with the 76 what is the peak reduction that is marking on the meter, and on the LA 2A it would be amazing if you could tell me that And exactly where the knobs in the input and output of the 76 thanks

@waves

26 күн бұрын

Hi there, our tech support department is open 7 days a week and will be more than glad to assist. Please contact us directly: www.waves.com/contact-us

Great compressors, just love them all!

Nice video!

Very nice

CLA-2A is my favorite among these for a female vox. this one is very smooth, so it saves the natural dynamics of the voice, as per my personal perception. if I have the raspy and various male voice in the mix (e. g. the rock/metal singing or an aggressive rap), I'd use the CLA-3A or CLA-76 blackey variation with 4.1 ratio and fast attack/release to accent the aggression, yet keeping it in place, so everything sounds "altogether". you could also include the comparison of these compressors with a vocal group bus, as far, as this field is also perfect for them (I like the way CLA-2A smoothly "gathers" the instruments on the bus) and the test feels incomplete without it. so is my humble opinion over these amazing tools. greetings from Ukraine and wishing you to be sound always. :)

Can it be used for live singing?

....so we're all in agreement that the autotune made this barely listenable? I fought through and suprisingly found the 76 (Bluey) to be the best, but I generally use the 76 (Blackey) followed by the 2A on my vocals

@demarlowoods6833

3 жыл бұрын

Do you do fastest attack fastest release on the 76 also?

@tumi6ocdn

3 жыл бұрын

@@demarlowoods6833 lol yup, I start there and then dial back as per the requirement of the vocal/song 💯

@demarlowoods6833

3 жыл бұрын

@@tumi6ocdn thanks for the snappy response and do you automate vocals before compression?

@tumi6ocdn

3 жыл бұрын

@@demarlowoods6833 no problem man, glad to share. Honestly I’m more likely to layer compression than automate before my vocal chain. Obviously this isn’t a rule, it’s just my tendency. The closest I get to automating pre-chain is adjusting the gain on some of the clips after comping and cleanup (like breath management, manual de-essing etc). Because I’m not riding faders, I tend to automate after my chain because it’s really just to accentuate moments for me

@tumi6ocdn

3 жыл бұрын

@@demarlowoods6833 also, don’t sleep on some light upward compression when you have a very dynamic vocal

Which is the best compressor?

i felt that the word 'phase' fell short with the CLA-2A but actually got more pronounced wih the CLA-76 which I think may suit this particular genre better. All four sounded great though. Thanks for the back to back, this is the first time I could really pick out the differences between the models more easily

Smooth!

thank you

How about we first hear the vocal with no auto-tune?

It's hard to tell what the compressors do when the voice is already autotuned so heavily, and it even sounds like there was some noise removal done too (idk if that was done or not, but it sounds like it)

Yeah, I'll say it as well. Turn that auto tune off, or back off the correction. Casey they've made you sound like a robot. I wish I could hear the differences in this without it.

@artysanmobile

4 жыл бұрын

Chad Elliott It’s fairly obvious, even with all that tune crap, that she can’t sing. Terrible voice.

@ChadElliott2012

4 жыл бұрын

@@artysanmobile Well - you don't /know/ that. You can apply terrible autotune to a GOOD vocalist and have it sound bad. The plugin is just a computer doing what a human told it. Lots of areas of failure here.

great vocalist - great demo

CLA compressors have built-in Waves Real-Tune now!

I always use cla-76 behind schoeps omni channel, to replace schoeps's compressor.

Thx 👏👏👏💙🎶🎧

Autotine on and the reverberation on . You just colorize the vocal !

what autotune did u use? It sounds so heavy.

I rarely watch videos from email mailing lists but the subject of this intrigued me. Unfortunately, I couldn't get past the overdone autotune and poor eq during the intro section so looks like I'm back to avoiding mailing list vids.

in which decade are you guys living? autotune is the most popular and used standard voice modeling option by now. and the mid-range of her voice, which is slightly boosted by autotune, makes it easier to hear the differences. good job waves.

3A really made it front face

@jamahlrawls3520

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I thought the same

Which song ?

The CLA-3A has a breathy element.

For reference, what MIC is she using, hard to tell from the quick glimpse

@JulianWorden

4 жыл бұрын

Looks like one of those Blue condensors

@miguellombana9847

4 жыл бұрын

@@JulianWorden It's honestly hard to tell from the video, I was thinking Baby Bottle or Bottle Rocket because it's a little darker than the basic Bluebird but would be nice to know if it's a 200 or 1000 dollar mic as that might impact dynamics a little

"Lets first hear the vocal without AUTOTUNE".

@tonyvincentproductions

4 жыл бұрын

Let's just employ a gifted vocalist!

nice video

CLA vocals has compressor, so is CLA 2A still necessary to add?

@andyleigh2784

3 жыл бұрын

Necessary is a strong word, it depends on what you're looking for really, I sometimes like using the comp in plugins like CLA Vocals and such if I'm looking for something quick but if I need something more specific and have more options to tweak the behavior of the compressor I would go for something else probably. Also, sometimes one compressor isn't enough and you're looking for something to just add a little bit more compression or add a specific color, in which case it might come in handy. Demo it and run a few tests, that way you can decide for yourself :)

On this vocal the CLA-76 Blue is the best.

Can we hear it without music and auto-tune?

Great video. Got some insights about the compressors. This is not a vocal tuning video - I don't know why ppl nag about that - when one monkey jumps, whole heard jump!

AWESOME VID...putting againts all the best compressors i like LA-2A but this time i will pick the CLA-3A... BANGER!!!

Nah....Let's first hear the vocal with no autotune...

I found the CLA-2A bumps my CPU using Ableton10 from 2% to around 20%! Highest usage plugin I have.

As mastering engineer I don't want to argue too much ,but if you want to tell people what is different, just show them the natural vocal without added any thing otherwise this is audio advertising.

great info! poor example. it’s like showing a masterpiece painting on a lo-res screen. doesn’t do the compressors justice. please make better decisions next time. best regards from a long-time (and paying) waves user.

For anyone complaining about autotune: an unaffected signal is an unfaccted signal. I don't care if they had this or any other longstreched midrangy sound. Like a leadsynthsound.

Cla76 sound pretty good

LOL "Not Lord Alge"... underrated nickname...

Oh my god. waves, come on! Read the comments and do this over!

Could not even get through the first compressor review. She must have paid you to sponsor her with Autotune otherwise you could have used a stock already recorded dry vocal track.

Liked cla-3a and cla-76 blue the most on this song.

My favorite is the Bluey.

I'd love to hear it with a dry vocal.

How are we supposed to hear the compressors with the outlandish amount of Auto Tune on her voice, adding it’s own compression. Maybe demo these great products with a singer who doesn’t require it?

🤖 Autotune bots assemble! 🤖

@jordstream

3 жыл бұрын

I'm #deadddddddd

I agree. Let's get rid of auto-tune once and for all. It just destroys her vocals and doesn't help the CLA compressor presentation at all.

Wow nice 🔥🔥🔥sound what is the name of this mic?

Idk why everyone is complaining about how "the autotune is so bad", "she's such a bad singer, you should've gotten a better singer for this"....you guys do understand that they're likely using the autotune for that specific effect, right? People will get that more "robotic" sound to fit specific tracks - depending on the genre that they're making. From the sound of the little snippets here, it sounds like a pop or electronic song. You can still hear what the compression is doing with no issue even with the autotune. I personally think it sounds just fine - the vocals and the compressors.

Мега мощь, но автотюн уже изрядно за-бал раньше ведь как-то без него пели, а la2a-очень нужный приборчик !!!)

You guys didnt pick this girl for her voice thats for sure

Isn't 7ms "slow" for a compression? What? I'm super confused right now.

@mrkewlgai1

Жыл бұрын

The Attack and Release Settings on the 76 compressor are reversed.