Im gathering data for a big Arknights Census report, so you should do your duty and fill the form out NOW --> forms.gle/RNbVPoYgbxLPZK7x6

@flower7671

Ай бұрын

submitted my response!

@liuxingyan7788

Ай бұрын

I think this survey can be improved if you asked us why we like those things :D

@selensewar

Ай бұрын

This feels hastly made. You ask us what is our favorite 6* specifically but then provide an option "my favorite is a 5*". The question wasn't "what's your favorite op". Then you ask what was our starting 6* and allow us to pick multiple. Then you ask what is the "best" and "worst" event is without any context to those words. Everyone has their own definition of good and bad, best and worst. Do you mean story-wise? Gameplay-wise? Too easy or too difficult? Too boring with new mechanics, too boring without any new mechanics? Too annoying? These require specifications. Unless you just want the end result without specifications of course, then it's all right.

@Yoda_UA

Ай бұрын

As a loyal Arknights player, i see a survey i do it. Not for orundum but to make game better. Good day to you sir.

@AtomTomZeitalter

Ай бұрын

Man that favourite Skin Line should've been multiple choice - It's hard to decide between Epoque and Bloodline of Combat.

i'm glad you at least snuck in vigil slander at the very end

@adrin181

Ай бұрын

the real highlight of the video

@smile.__

Ай бұрын

slander implies it's a falsehood. 😉

@lebanana151

Ай бұрын

​@@smile.__you tell em

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

i had to go full circle

That is why I love the integrated strategy game mode because I see value in every operator no matter now low tier they are because in the end of the day you can clear anything in arknights just that creativity makes it fun

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

integrated strategy my beloved

Thank you for being considerate towards Base Ch'en and Irene enjoyers and censoring Degen for us

@moment5439

Ай бұрын

The happiness I felt at that moment can't be described with words alone

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

she wont be forgiven.

@frds_skce

Ай бұрын

No way, Degenbrecher the best

Vivi's issue is that Arts Guards don't have a real role in the game anymore: There are far better blockers and damage dealers in the Guard category and her arts damage is easily replaced by Casters. That's why a lot of people really hoped she could have a Mudrock-style shield or something, so she wouldn't need backup dancers in the form of healers. Because if you need healers, all the other Guards become relevant too and you could also come up with non-guard combos like Saria + Ceobe (absolutely disgusting with module) to block better and shred better. The easiest way to tell is that no one uses Amiya, who is both the real protagonist of the story and a free 5* Arts Guard that does tons of damage, while able to kill some bosses on skill use thanks to true damage. There are just so many units that can either assassinate/severely injure a boss before a natural 1v1 happens via hot-drop (Texas, Yato, Phantom, Surtr, SA, Eyja, Qiubai) or can slap bosses around through sheer volume of attacks or true damage (Chungus, Hellagur, Kal'tsit). Bonus option goes to Skadi if you bring her backup dancers too. Basically, at this point in the game we don't need another Arts Guard that doesn't bring much new to the table - if Degenbrecher can get various AoE attacks, I don't know why the actual AoE damage boss couldn't get some either. I think it might have been a missed opportunity for a ground-based elemental attacker with AoE and burn, especially if you could synergize with Virtuosa.

@NikkiTheViolist

Ай бұрын

tbh it's my headcanon that Arts Fighters are going to get a burn-based module as one of their options, since a full half of the Arts Fighters (and notably both 6-stars) are very much flame-themed

Mochi has been watching Suprah

Hypergryph could literally salvage more than half of their operators from E1 irrelevancy jail if they just tweaked E2 promotion/leveling to be less grindy. The game feels like spreadsheet simulator sometimes, where I'm trying to optimize every drop of sanity (both IRL and in-game) and every ounce of Base efficiency so that it doesn't take a month to bring a single operator to E2. No sane person spends money on material/LMD packs or sanity refills, so it's not like they're profiting from the oppressive timegating.

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

such is the nature of a gacha game truly unlucky

@psychocrysis2

Ай бұрын

@@mochidash Games with shitty rates like FGO tend to have trivial leveling, and vice versa.

@IrvineTheHunter

Ай бұрын

It's to keep people playing, if your not on the game, spending IRL time and sanity to promote operators you can't get the good stuff. Like I might just skip events I don't like if not for all the bits and bobs. Well I averaged over an op every two days for the entire first YEAR, but now I have a que of like 12 e2 ops waiting on modules. Me grinding those bits and bobs keep me auto running missions and checking my base to keep chipping at my que.

Poor Rosmontis, she deserves better

@tyaty

Ай бұрын

Flingers got much better with their module.

@GorkyZer0

Ай бұрын

While still lacking DMG, with her mod She at last sometimes shines when mechanics need "x hit count" instead of damage dealt. Like in last chapter She can push Bombs easily against any number of opponents. Same with deleting floating haunted items...

@ohdiethere7641

Ай бұрын

@@tyaty Rosmontis module vastly improved her S2 in particular, it's pretty great.

LMAO Vigil literally won me the last stage of this Viviana event, he was able to hit the machine to change the music and generate DP, made my life much easier

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

vigil stocks up

@thegoldexperience8340

Ай бұрын

"2 dp" shit's good

@obsiangravel

Ай бұрын

​@@thegoldexperience8340this might be shocking news but he has 2 whole other skills

"For their role" is an underutilized phrase in AK. Not "for their class" or "for their subclass" but for their role. Vivi as a +plus def and +res solo guard with a shield and above 5* damage is a great role for an op to be in. It is just a less utilized role than "wipe the field"

@wildfire_

Ай бұрын

That’s the problem though. She’s good in her role because her role isn’t good. Why be a tanky melee arts single target when you can be an arts multitarget, a melee multi target, etc. she is the best in her role because mlynar and texalter does her job better while being in other roles. For better or for worse, AK never forces you to use a specific operator or strategy so she will always be suboptimal to a better, more flexible character

@ThaDude

Ай бұрын

​@@wildfire_It's because HG is designing generalists to be so good that niches are almost non existent. If mechanics don't punish for not soft countering or hard countering, then ignoring mechanics is better especially if the generalists have big dps to clear a stage and ignore mechanics. It is really ironic since early game teaches to study and exploit mechanics to our advantage then just make ops so strong that ignoring mechanics is ok.

@ristier31

Ай бұрын

The funny thing is that if you need a tanky arts melee. s3 Blemi and to a lesser extent s1 Nian are okay for that with some planning.

@Nian91131

Ай бұрын

Vivi role is supposed to be laneholder to be different with surtr. And 1 block laneholder without unlimited duration skill is a failure to be laneholder to begin with. The comparison between on skill and offskill is huge with addition being 1 block that "need" to put another blocker especially during offskill is far from "good" role

my heart dropped when you showed the hoederer banner, actual ptsd war flashbacks In all seriousness tho, it is so much more fun to use the "weaker options". I could use the TexAlt I have, but I have a lot more fun using Phantom BECAUSE he doesn't solve the entire stage for me.

@fz_dracohart1255

Ай бұрын

Basically me nowadays. Mlynar and Texalter can solve all my headaches, make my skin clear and wash my dishes but I choose to bench them. Boy I don't regret burning some practice plans and sanities to make weird Penance+Fia combo works in many levels and pop Lappland beside her Lord buddy Thorns. I only use brainded meta like Texalter and such when I don't have time or don't enjoy the stages or the story. Unfortunately that mood strikes more often lately and I found myself begrudgingly fielding meta ops again despite wanting to have fun with Viviana and trying the forgotten 5*s.

@0bscurelight689

Ай бұрын

​@@fz_dracohart1255what is the Fiammetta and Penance combo?

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

im sorry i use him if that means anything

@cherrypebis

Ай бұрын

@@mochidash together we can make hoederer the most used op in the game

@thewhodehell

Ай бұрын

IF i must use yato alter, I ALWAYS bring phantom, too. That being said, yato alter is temporary, phantom is forever

SilverAsh is never bad, he's still very useful.

@yoshitsuneminamoto6096

Ай бұрын

+ on CN he have module and DMG almost same as Mlynar

@macsenpai7006

Ай бұрын

@@yoshitsuneminamoto6096 Helidropping + Redeployment time reduction for more helidropping + invisibility reveal + slightly wider range. I still use him a lot along with Texalter, Kirito, Surtr and Skadi. He is making a contribution just by having him in your squad.

@skarhabekgreyrukh8601

Ай бұрын

​@@macsenpai7006 kiritp? did you mean our boi lessing?

@macsenpai7006

Ай бұрын

@@skarhabekgreyrukh8601 Kirin R Yato, she's a fast-redeploy operator, also known as Yato Alter.

@skarhabekgreyrukh8601

Ай бұрын

@@macsenpai7006 yalter to kirito is too far lol

"So what's the point of the video? That is - " *ad break cuts in* Almost had me spilling my coffee lmao

I think Viviana’s real crime is just being so different from her boss unit, rather than simply not out-scaling Surtr.

I appreciate your statement that "using Bad Operators will make you play the game more creatively than just press their Skill and watch them trivialize the game." In fact, I run a Niche called Badknights, which revolves around using all these "Bad Operators", which is direct proof that, even with the community deemed "worst options", they will still get the job done (yes, even Wind Chimes or Spuria). After all, Arknights is a strategy game first and foremost, not the "DPS power fantasy gacha consoomer" game people claim it is.

@Luxo-tm9mp

Ай бұрын

Spuria understandable but Wind chines deals great damage to a line I dont get why people consider that bad

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

well the proofs in the pudding as they say

Unironically, vigil is my go to vanguard nowadays, his S3 carried me well on chapter 13 because he deals triple hits, propelling the bombs nicely. Though his S1 is my go to skill, just prop him and have him afk lanehold early game while giving itsy bitsy amount of dp and regen his wolves. Really, when you like an operator well enough you’ll always find a place for them

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

rare vigil supporter, very based.

This is a really good and nuanced look at "bad operators". I think another problem is, while "there are no bad operators, only bad doctors" and "every unit is usable if you figure out how" are true, a lot of players either aren't big brained enough to make it work, or don't care to 'git gud' in their fun time vidya gaem. Neither of those are insults, I think being casual and being dumb are valid life choices. But while a lot of not necessarily hardcore but I guess heavily invested players do enjoy the challenge, there's a reason the most well-known AK creators are guide makers. Game hard, and it seems natural to me that operators who "make it harder" would be considered bad. For me, I really like Viviana and have been using her, but boy do I need a meta squad to support her because I am bad enough at the game for it to tip over into 'frustrating challenge' instead of 'fun challenge'. It sucks being tired of meta but not good enough to really flourish in a niche. That's why you can never ever quit because I'm living vicariously through you, no pressure.

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

thats why i do the "frustrating challenge" for videos but also recommend meta since its a fine line and dependent on the person. meta isnt bad and is a valid way to enjoy the game but people need remember that those other ops arent that bad either c:

6:30 we will be seated for the upcoming enforcer solos patriot video

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

( real )

0:55 and here i thought Arknights was a visual novel

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

you arent wrong.

@kiki123456able

Ай бұрын

Arknights is a whole novel

@MythlyInari

25 күн бұрын

@@kiki123456able Arknights is a series of novels. 3 minutes for 30 minutes of story? HELL YEAH I'M HERE FOR IT

The great thing about Arknights is unlike other games, you don't need the meta units to clear the game. You're not gonna struggle much either. Any well maintained account can clear the story if the Doctor knows what they're doing. That's exactly the point of Kyostin and Eckogen's low star guides!

@wickeddave5148

Ай бұрын

Until something like DoS is on the way

vigil have 3 block or 2 block, the damage is decent. just build cost is the issue

This means you guys should totally build Ceylon

@czaczaczar

Ай бұрын

Or Vigil.

@sb18wlc

Ай бұрын

Already did...

@sayospecter6731

Ай бұрын

I have a fully maxed Ceylon with the Lv3 Module and everything, and I not only use her, but also prep her up as my obligatory 5-star Support.

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

you got the real meaning of video sasuga panzer.

@NikkiTheViolist

Ай бұрын

lmao i already built every medic shortly after getting them your Ceylon taunt is several years too late (Rhodes island is a pharmaceutical company, that's why i build medics)

Czerny is a banger unit that nobody uses. And Bena is one of the best Arts tanks in the game.

@halley_lu

Ай бұрын

hey i use him

@AleXwern

Ай бұрын

Czerny is an absolute unit and he's cool

@bladegrip8459

Ай бұрын

@@AleXwern "Shall I- SHUT UP!! OR ELSE!!"

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

lingering echoes lore accurate clear me beloved.....

Arts fighters are just bad archetype. The only one used commonly is Surtr and that's because she doesnt play like arts guard but like helidrop on steroids. 1 block is bad, no self sustain and mid stats are bad. If you need arts dmg its usually just easier to use a caster anyway. And then every second melee nowadays have arts dmg anyways (Tex2, Qiubai) or have enough raw dmg to overpower def (Mlynar, Hoe, Degen).

@govinlock8568

Ай бұрын

Nowadays, yes. There are plenty arts damage dealer. But back then it was hard to find ground arts damage. The source of arts damage from ground operators other than arts guard (Mousse and Astesia) during first day were Lappland S2 and Cliffheart S2 (true damage). Casters sometimes not an option because of their short range and lack of strategic ranged tiles.

@gargutz907

Ай бұрын

@@govinlock8568 well add Arene and Midnight to Lords-with-arts-on-skill and arts defenders like Durnar Asbestos and even Liskarm. And Lords range was almost always better. I remember I saw multiple low-end guides from Kyo in the earlier days with Midnight and Arene but Mousse was a rare sight, and mostly for debuff, not arts. The point is arts guards were always bad guard class from the very day1. Their niche is most of the time done better with other operators (well except Surtr obviously).

@govinlock8568

Ай бұрын

@@gargutz907 Arene was released after 1st anniversary. Durnar debut was about 3-4 months after release. Midnight? Few weeks after release. I know that arts guards are too niche that they would be overshadowed if someone do better dealing arts damage. I've started played Arknights almost a month after the game released and I can say Arts guard is not always bad.

Just like Astesia. Her kit is boring and basic, but she's very pretty

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

pretty indeed

Ironically there so many dokutah who cant clear stages without following/copying guide despite they build many good and Meta operators

Ever since I started Arknights about two years ago, I've been a dedicated Only Operators I Love-knights niche player and I really think that's the most fun way to play. I find it so funny every time I see tier lists ranking 6 stars on whatever criteria and when I go looking for the 7 (including Viviana

@ArgentoNatsu

Ай бұрын

i too believe in favoritism-knights because that way i can challenge myself in beating stages with the units i Like using and not the 'meta' edit: no one asked but my favorite has always been Texas vanguard so I bring her to EVERY stage

@pitchlag1502

Ай бұрын

My Lunacub had been sitting at E0 until I got her temporarily ONCE in IS4 and fell in love, she served me pretty nicely in ZT-S-3 recently :D Cheers to favoritism, Lee may be niche but great character, absolute joy in IS and I will immediately E2 90 that man when I get him because that is what he deserves (He'll get to be the first one too)

@dukeee19844

Ай бұрын

@@pitchlag1502 Lunacub always manages to creep onto my team while running event stages! There's just so many times when her default invisibility and +aspd skill comes in clutch. The way you are with Lee is how I am with Ho'olheyak lmaooo I'm so ready to go full Levitate gaming with her and some of the upcoming five stars 😭

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

waifu > meta as it was written in the stars

@rexnatori

Ай бұрын

Czerny Flint enjoyers lets gooooo

This video convinced me to M6 Viviana just because I wanted to and also I have so many resource to burn out

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

very based

I think Spuria is the only character I can't think of any use cases for whatsoever when there are buffers who are both stronger and don't slowly kill themselves by existing/randomly stun the person they're supposed to be helping. Even Vigil has some closet uses due to his wolves able to soak multiple hits from hard-hitting enemies who aren't really meant to be tanked/blocked and his module is going to make them better at that by giving them innate physical dodge.

@Razor4884

Ай бұрын

Spuria increases Fiammetta's S3 DPS by 68%. She fires slowly enough that it doesn't matter if she gets stunned. Since her attack interval is longer than the stun duration.

@Sazandora635

Ай бұрын

​@@Razor4884 I guess she'd also work with any other sniper with increased attack interval on their skills like Ambriel S2 or Typhon S3, too, though the lack of self-healing on her talent unlike Aak can still be problematic.

@NikkiTheViolist

Ай бұрын

just, whatever you do, don't use Spuria with Rosa S3 if you're going to pair her with Rosa to make a DEF-ignore team, stick with Rosa's S2

5:18 Boycat detected, repeat boycat detected

@georgekikionis7167

Ай бұрын

F@ck stainless! I spent 110 pulls (everything I had saved up) on Virtuoso and I got Viviana and stainless! There was higher probability for a limited of banner and somehow I got stainless! Out of spite I will never build him.

@danilaevd

Ай бұрын

​@@georgekikionis7167 weak aura

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

this video ain't even about him....

Finally someone that understand Viviana. She isnt bad its just her kit is so boring and she is nothing more than astesia powercreep but more expensive. You cant just add more def and res when your opponent is basically immortal ( surtr's remnant ash ) and have higher damage than you. Vivi need unique kit to compete. She should take note on arturia and get her og art nuke back since that was one of the thing that special aboit her boss form

I remember starting arknights 4 years ago with just chen, when all my friends got ops like suzuran, exusiai, or even hoshiguma, and how hard it was on my end just using chen every stage.

Part of the charm of arknights is that its a strategy game, thats why i enjoy it so much cause even with the more bad operators like Tsukinogi or almond or my beloved hung, they still have their uses, especially if you know how to correctly use them. Powercreep is definitely a huge issue on why a lot of operators are seen as bad cause y use phantom when u can just use texas or yato? Which i do hate but understand, but unlike other games you can still use “bad” or mediocre operators to clear most content in the game even most challenging content like CC or h stages, yeah theres times you will definitely have a very VERY difficult time without meta ops but again most of the time its a non issue, i do definitely wish there was more events like cc 12 that made mostima super useful or brought back underwhelming niches like silence again, but still what arknights has now is good. Every operator is still useable, especially if u know what to do with them, still is sad people just automatically call them bad or mid because they arent meta/aren’t meta anymore

@hungsupremacy

Ай бұрын

Like i do perro only and pretty much most of them are seen as underwhelming like Almond, Hung, and greyy, but i still make great use out of them, i mean i was able to beat the boss stage of jessica’s event thanks to almond because i realized you could use bind on the boss, so i was able to actually make Almond useful and have her bind him so ceobe could get the last few hits she needed, knowing how to properly use “bad” ops is fun, and hopefully more people will try to utilize bad ops just to see how good they can be.

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

woah, you got the point of the video ?!

SMH shake my head (head shaking right now) Vivianas base skill is cracked

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

true end game, base optimization

I think you hit the nail on the head. Viviana is neither *busted *interesting *has utility I have built plenty of operators who aren't amazingly good because they do something interesting or fun. While Viviana is just... Astesia powercreep.

@Vasharan

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I don't think mochi does a good job of making the case for why Viviana "isn't bad". If anything, it's the opposite. He emphasizes how operators with interesting kits lead to more creative clears and a better appreciation of game mechanics. Yet Viviana is completely boring. Her only utility is to sit in a lane and attack, and sometimes, RNG lets her not die. Her kit is klunky and unwieldy, as being reliant on second activation means she loses 30% of her potential if she's not put down early (and left to sit there) or if she's redeployed. This is a complete failure of design, and even if Viviana had a zillion Arts damage, she would still be a boring (mechanically) character. Except she doesn't, and is weak and boring.

@mosesnyper

26 күн бұрын

Real case of the boss when you fight them vs the boss on your team. I wish our Candle Knight could make huge explosions like Reed Alter 😂

Think the reason as to why an operator is considered bad is because, while they have a niche, sometimes that niche is either way too small for investment, or they already have an operator that fits the nich well enough to get by. For example, Puzzle I would consider to be bad. I have never seen him be used in more than 1 video, but that one video, was a video showcasing that a Puzzle+Stainless combo can generate enough dp to sustain 1, if not 2 merchants in an annhiliation map. But the problem here is that you need a Stainless for it to wotk, so the niche is hard to accomplish, and the merchants we have aren't exactly good enough to warrant this setup, and a simple Myrtle would be enough instead.

@CaptinSpyke

Ай бұрын

Nah puzzle is legit fine, the real issue for him is that cantabile released first and shes one of the best 5 stars and is a top tier op in a general sense. If he had released first his reception would be a lot more modest I think, but he was one of our many reverse powercreep victims

It is a tower defense *with* resource management!

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

i can see.

I prefer using the term "niche" over "bad." In my opinion, it's more accurate to describe the great majority of operators. For me, when something is described as "bad," it means it is incapable of being "good" in any scenario.

thx as always for the video

I built vigil off on a bet... has never been used even once.

@fefedusts

Ай бұрын

still praying for his module to fix him, he is so cool.

@dedcet634

Ай бұрын

@@fefedusts his module is mid,you will still wait for second module?

@Razor4884

Ай бұрын

I found good use for him in Ch12. He was super useful for helping to block and search the civs while picking off spies.

@fefedusts

Ай бұрын

@@dedcet634 well, one can still hope :')

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

as is standard

One thing I love about Tower Defense more than any type of games I ever played. There is no 1-way to win the game. That's the fun of it. You can play the way you like, with any character you like. Specially for Doctors that managed to pull it off with only 4 stars. You are crazy lol. Big respect.

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

nicheknight gamers rise up.....

One thing that is often overlooked is also the fact that a lot of 'bad' operators are highly specialized, so they might not be the best in all situations, but once their speciality comes around they are leagues above the more general competition. Someone like Thorns is a great example, he is highly regarded and greatly rated, but once the shit really hits the fan just disappears. Can you imagine how good Viviana would be if we get another event with super strong burning sword weeb type enemies?

@lilmagi

Ай бұрын

Then Thorns got his module and now he is back to being great. Even when the shit really hits the fan.

@skarhabekgreyrukh8601

Ай бұрын

lol, ling event make blue poison and ethan god tier

@luisgabriel7565

Ай бұрын

@@lilmagi Thorns still a General content operator, he just doesnt die to the thrash mobs anymore thanks to his modules and he still is underperforming over the new Laneholders we have

@philipek1879

Ай бұрын

​@@luisgabriel7565Like?

To me, the meta doesn't really matter until the really hard maps, like CC or the last EX stages of a given event. Until those stages, I just play with whatever combination of operators I think is fun. And even so, I sometimes get suprises. You know who was the key for me to clear the EX7 CM stage of the last event (which was way harder than the EX8)? Friggin' Firewhistle, who I had E2'd because she's cool and fun to use.

Bro, I love Hoederer. ❤

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

he's cool

I have a second account that I gave a self-limiting rule of not pulling except for free pulls, recruitment and headhunting (basically just don't use orundums). I managed to get hoho and viviana on that acc. With hoho, I manage to at least find use for her almost instantly, even carrying some stages for me and I really liked her. But with viviana, I still struggle to find a use for her even after masteries. If she can't kill within her skill, she needs help with pretty much anything, especially surviving.

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

mod will fix her ( real ) if that mod just increases her shield talent then shell be golden

You could see a cursor move in the recording of Vivi's chibi in 2:43.

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

a cursor sure did move or did it ?!

Funnily enough while I did pulled on Chongyue’s banner, I only did 60 pulls for one copy of him but blew all my savings into the banner after his, Qiubai. She was a dark hair red eyes anime swordswoman which I’m a sucker for (can you guess why) and I love her so much. I instantly Max level M9 her and use her a lot more than Thorns.

My first two six stars were Hoshi and Shining.... that really shaped me as a player

I'm a waifu over meta player clearly because I tend to use whatever I think is pretty

It's true that esources are limited and this plays a huge factor. If an operator isn't a huge upgrade over what you're already have or provides a frequently useful niche you're probably better spending your resources on someone else, that's the sad fate for operators like Viviana, being just ok isn't enough.

8:19 this is why I still use Exusiai with buffs and debuffs to shred some bosses, these 12 slots are great for an army of buffers and debuffers

Damn people really doesnt remember lessing at all At least people remember vigil being bad

This is also why I like Hoederer because I get to bring Ethan more on mission. I enjoy playing AK doing synergy. Like Viviana S3 + Saria S3 + Eyja S1. Sadly I only have Eyja. Viviana and Saria won't come to my account 😢 I have and love playing Abyssal Hunters though because their synergy is amazing

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

team building in my tower defense? never.

Bijiru... Do you guys think Viviana would work better if she was like uhhhh arts zuo le?

@fz_dracohart1255

Ай бұрын

Simply by making her S3 and/or S2 have unlimited duration on second activation like Thorns would make her great without making her braindead. Not exactly the same mechanics as Zuo le but at least putting her in the same satisfying level to use.

@VeritasNumquamPerit

Ай бұрын

The only hopium i think could fix her is give her module that give burn elemental. Not only it relates to her candle knight persona, it help her damage and survival and complement her skills that increase her hit rate

@EggyEggtoast

Ай бұрын

@@VeritasNumquamPerit She literally graduated and signed away the rights to being the candleknight the candle burst was in her words borrowed arts for the role

@VeritasNumquamPerit

Ай бұрын

@@EggyEggtoast where is it stated?

@VeritasNumquamPerit

Ай бұрын

@@EggyEggtoast adding, i just read nearl light newspaper, her bio, and i have not found any that tell that she relinquish the nova knightclub arts right. Heck,her 1st talent is candleknight, her 2nd talent is called nova, there's no other thing in arknight called nova beside her knightclub so she should still have her candleknight arts

I personally felt so good when people called Qiu mid and she was one of the most used ops to clear DOS S stages, bet they didn't saw that coming and i enjoyed it as she was my first 6* lord back in her debut banner

There at least should be fire effect in Viviana's skills to make her a proper candle knight

The video was great, it sends an important message to everyone who worries about not having "meta" operators but I have to say that Vigil sucks so baddd I got him today on an IS run and promoted him, all skills M3 but he was barely usable help

@mochidash

14 күн бұрын

vigil will one day rise from the ashes. surely.

I can't seem to be able to see my comments under this video, but just in case it's a me problem and i haven't been banned - nice video with good points.

Having been playing Lupoknights since Siracusa I sometimes forget that Vigil is bad. I would of course never recommend him but he does do his job usually.

i started with viviana.... but i got thorns, virtuosa, dorothy, typhoon, Lin and executor alter in less than one month, so my poor vivi will stay e1 for a good time lol

@mochidash

14 күн бұрын

suffering from success

Viviana is clearly a niche elite handler/phys boss killer, so i wanted her, i manager to do 300 pulls (because i wanted rosmontis as well and i was saving) i got 12 Virtuosas and 2 Vivianas, in a 10-pull i got 2 6 stars, both virtuosas, it was astounding how much the game didn't want me to have viviana

in the end it comeback to resource lmd, exp, chip and mats are not easy to collect afterall, sanity is capped and slow to refill that make base your best choice to get the resource (mainly lmd and exp) im almost 9 months playing, seeing it from new player perspective the most ideal way to progress is building base slave operator and build meta operator, the more efficient the better, and yes i do that lmao, pulling proviso, choosing shamare from 5* selector and ofc e2ing them aswell (e2 ing vulcan, morgan, delphine that i wont use, bibeak, tquila and scene is very fun to use) but most of them is just e2 for base but the outcome they give is retained and aslong i dont lazy my ass off to rotate them, they will payback eventually i got 40 e2 now, and 10 of em is for base purpose having "bad" operator is fine, im talking as for fellow new player dont focus so hard on people saying about operator, but do your own research also optimize your base ! and as 6:33, as newbie what i got from newbie pool is siege, angelina and shining, so do i e2 them (newbie pool nowdays feels way better tho ngl) some of irl friend says to reroll for SA or exu, but then i just go with it, and yes i actually playing with 3 of em most of the time before i got qiubai and eyja (in 2nd months of play) still i use ange+eyja to melt anyone most of the time LOL some says go built myrtle so you can borrow e2 unit, but the sigma me said i wont borrow any unit and watch guide (until i met patriot ofc) still proceed to built her, but being use to 2 block vanguards since day 1 (siege + texas), my myrtle still not max trust till this day ahahaha till this day i still bring those 2 vg, blue poison, shining, qiubai and eyja most of the time

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

my advice to newer players will always be "build your base first"

> there are no bad operators Verdant

@GlebSeva

Ай бұрын

Vigil (situational AF)

Hoolheyak got a use. She lift annoying enemies to shut down their special effects like barrier pricks in the current that reflect dmg. I believe viviana need a slight push in her kit. She need some sustain and something special when she activate her skills like an explosion. I kinda wonder why didn't hg make her a lord or a musha. Those two classes fit her more than her current one

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

npc vivi where are you...

@frostknight7687

Ай бұрын

@@mochidash deep in my heart where she established a family and found the bathtub.

8:20 I respectfully disagree. *Cough* Ling *Cough* laneholders

That word, that sentence. I've hear that hundred times. Whatever they called them bad or good, using quotes or not, this kind of player always bring BAD MOOD to everyone.

I use forsight to pull for all the Arkhomies.

How can you get operator spite transparent. I tried but the web is bug and background replace with back screen

One arguement I heard was: Surtr vs viviana...thinking about that just about dmg and survivability its obviously surtr...but if talking about skill uptimes viviana might be more useful sometimes (im coping I got vivi instead of virtuosa )

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

stay strong vitrousa will come home next time you can get her

@kale1837

Ай бұрын

@@mochidash I hope

I like Viviana enough, satisfying kit to me. I'll pair her with Haze when I get the chance hehe.

4:50 Look at Horn, how could you say no?

Me with Nightmare in every high risk CC in past, and also i already cleared solo IS#3 with only her in squad

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

rare nightmare user very based

My first 6* was Eunectes And at the begging of the game I tried to use her all the time

@skarhabekgreyrukh8601

Ай бұрын

Eunectes is actually strong... only DP cost and block 1 is the issue.... she should have block module +1 or reduce dp cost. dusk so far is feel good with 25 Dp

I agree with this video a lot. I will always use Jessica Alter even if i get a better operator than her. I will always use her since i love her skills and kit. I love how much stratergy she requires and how flexible she is for my brain to adapt and create cool stratergies to have more fun!

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

creativity in my gacha game? i think not.

@r-gw2do

Ай бұрын

@@mochidash AGH! NOOOOOOOOOO!!! *dies*

Yeah, I feel like this problem is only going to get worse as Operators are getting more and more broken. For example, W Alter is probably the best Sniper in the game and every future Sniper that is released that is not as broken or does not have an interesting Niche will immediately be considered bad in comparison.

ITS THE LEITHANIEN CURSE

As someone who's been taking Arknights seriously since January, (Have had my account for 4 years and played off and on) I like trying to figure out how to make Units I LIKE work. You can tell me that Blank OP is the worst Op in the game and I'll build them to Spite you with a huge grin on my face. Thats the beauty of Arknights! If people can do all these types of NicheKnight clears, just build whoever you want!

Almost shot you in the head trying to slip Eben in the thumbnail 👁

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

guh

To be honest this vid shows more about the mind set then anything else. But to the instead of putting down some 6 stars as bad vs other units. its indeed also a factor that in a limited resources game like arknights 5 stars dont offer the power there cost needs. them taking the T4 ships is a big fuck you to 5 stars.

My main issue with Vivi isn't her lackluster kit, it's that she is just not what I pictured her as a playable operator. She went from one of the flashiest and coolest NPCs in battle to one of the most boring VFX operators we have.

if only her shield is not immun to 1 meele dmg,i will raise her already there's like so many reason to not raise her at all even if you don't have any art guard in your acc

Well people will start using true silver slash again when module comes

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

the slash was never supposed to be golden it was truly a silver slash all along

There is no bad operators, only more situational.

it is through this video I learned that people think Eunectes is a bad operator lmao (she's one of my favorites and one of the few people I've max-leveled, I use her all the time in super hard content)

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

she is most certainly clowned on for sure

I pulled for virtuosa and instead i get four pot viviana

I like using said "bad" operators... won't know how useful they are until they are actually used... the I adapt and improvise...

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

this is the way

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

this is the way

I didnt even know Viviana was bad i just wanted her bc she looks cute

24 pulls, 2 vivis, no virtus

I saw someone saying that Mlynar is useless now because Wis'adel is the new strongest unit, and I found that so funny. Ain't no way some people actually think like this.

Every operator useful, it's just developers who not let them be useful

What's the ost playing at the beginning of the video?

Normally I just shut the hell up and pull only for limiteds.

Honestly, Vigil shouldve been cheaper to raise. He's one of my fave operators but yes, it's true, he doesn't really bring much to the table besides sick IT voice lines.

Tbh I own nothing on U but these bad op selling videos never gaslight me enuff to build them lol

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

the video isnt about telling people to build em just that they arent *that* terrible c:

At the end of the day with ANY gacha. Waifu > Meta. If your waifu IS meta, then you win twice.

Is the design joke that she's a candle without a flame lit? Because she works better with Ifrit and Reed Alter lighting it up. Maybe a future module will give her burn elemental damage like Warmy has.

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

module will saver her ( real )

Majority of the characters banner he showed I have built those characters and find them fun to use or just good looking e2 art💀. Hoederer Viviana Quibai I have built them 💀

@mochidash

Ай бұрын

and they are fun to use , i use them too

Saga it's not better than Bagpipe, Myrtle or Ines, this makes her bad? No, she is pretty good, AoE Damage, big attack, a Trait who gives a second life, also a SP and DP source, she just can't overpower the 3 meta characters

Eunectes is still my Goddess tho. With module her single problem is practically gone and she became just disaster on the field. Not many bosses can actually break her while in S3.

Ok, but what is that banger at 7:28?