Who was the better president, Mbeki or Zuma?

@user-bc1ho4bj9i

2 ай бұрын

Mbheki

@ignatiouschikurahove7239

2 ай бұрын

Obvious Mbeki and you can't compare the two

@user-cb8fd1hy9r

2 ай бұрын

By what he did for real South Africa the roots people?​@user-bc1ho4bj9i

@noziphonolwazi385

2 ай бұрын

Zuma, he impacted black community far largely than scholar and economist Mbeki. Here we speak of a person that a gives to his people more than to speeches and poems

@abeloriri8030

2 ай бұрын

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Mr Thabo Mbeki is an intelligent man. He is able to analyze and tell the truth as it is. It's encouraging. ❤

@glenblignaut9977

2 ай бұрын

OK so he didn't believe AIDS existed?

@robynnelott6022

2 ай бұрын

Aids didnt exist, he is correct. Aids was induced just as the so called covid pandemic was . Yes a virus but not what they saying. All lies. All to bring fear and control to the people. Jabs jabs jabs

@molefejappie3284

2 ай бұрын

@@glenblignaut9977 Yes at the time he did not believe. Now he believes.

@molefejappie3284

2 ай бұрын

@@glenblignaut9977 Everybody has mistakes. You too have and me too almost every one has. You can name all the prominent people. When a medical Dr has got flue, he or she attends to another Dr for healing.

@pinkieluthuli5125

2 ай бұрын

He let so many people died of Aids mostly blacks

Thank you, My President, Mr. Thabo Mbeki,,🙏🏼 M. Thabo Mbeki will forever be my President that should be the one steering our Country, ( Parliament)❤🙏🏼

Wow!!!!! Former Mr. President Mbeki you nailed our current situation in South Africa. Thank you. Please think more than twice when making your mark come election day.....

@noziphonolwazi385

2 ай бұрын

Estimated at 300k people died of aids policies and political position he took. By denying that AIDS relate with HIV. Slow pace of starting with HIV medicals. Remember Nkosi Johnson, if it was Zuma he wud be still alive.

@tersiaraath799

2 ай бұрын

Mr Mbeki is not on the candidate list.

@mtgigi

2 ай бұрын

​@@tersiaraath799refers to making his mark when voting

@user-ww5qw8jd3b

2 ай бұрын

@@noziphonolwazi385 Mbeki was supposed to step in the room and force a man to wear a condom??

What an eloquent and truthful speech. I salute you Mr president

Thank you so much Mr President Mbeki❤May Our Lord bless you abundantly and give you many more years, favors and lot ,Keep going tata'Dlamin....❤🙏

Mr Mbeki. I salute you. You have answered all my questions, and given me hope for the future in SA. We need another person with your mindset to lead us. Like Moses, you can rest. But please send another Josua.

@luckymanzini2043

2 ай бұрын

We're to carry the blame to have had him removed from presidency, we were quite wrong, it's a potty that we need him back now, when things have gone so wrong, cry the beloved country 😭

@fionaestherfortuin4185

2 ай бұрын

Amen

@musawenkositruelovekhumalo9453

2 ай бұрын

​@@luckymanzini2043 am 100% agree with you, mina I started noticing that on the first 100 days of Ramaphosa in the president office

@noloyisonopanjwa883

2 ай бұрын

It was a plot because the comrades had no chance to loot because he was very strict. Blame Vavi and Malema for the removal of this intelligent giant. I cried without stop the day they removed him .

@tafadzwamutambudzi4510

11 күн бұрын

Q​@@luckymanzini2043

Thank you Mr Mbeki for spill the beans and truth about failures of the Leaders of the Country and evil enemies that is still causing much more to happen daily under ANC ruling.

What a powerful speech !! I salute you Tata Mbeki

I believe when choosing a president in African countries , we should do awey with our tribal mentalities and choose wisely based on ones capabilities in leadership .

@tsekomofokeng182

2 ай бұрын

Agree with you.

@merle-wq9ir

2 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more!!

@thabitakgobe7726

2 ай бұрын

Dilemma of democracy. Democracy is very blind. Hence, we ended up with Unclever blacks😢

@tsekomofokeng182

2 ай бұрын

​@@thabitakgobe7726In the present scenario of South Africa three important issues 1. Illiteratecy. People who are not educated do not understand how things must be done. They just follow whatever comes their way. 2. Criminality. Criminals are able to position themselves. Remember the Guptas. 3.Leadership. Up to now,we have seen leaders without vision,visionless,leaderless. They don't care about the country and people. As long as they appear on National Television then is fine.

@user-ov5hd7mw1u

2 ай бұрын

Yes, when we choose the president and those who will rule our country, we must put aside politics and racism but think of the good of the country and our people. We must at the qualities of people and choose accordingly.

Absolutely a fantastic message by a very intelligent man. We believe that your message is true sir.

Thanks Mr former president you have hit the nail those people who are there to destroy south Africa with a smile and the south Africa youth they are taking things for granted too much desrepecting.

We in Kenya expect This kind of leader from S.A. With quality analysis, great brains. We should have this for us too.

@gilbertestates8520

2 ай бұрын

Give back what is not your'ls Project 447 Gilbert Estates,who is the Municipality,but under the contract as they too are tendering as put in but the Company belongs to privet as it's not government. Give back to the family they are here to take over and yes who are you Voting for because they don't own anything the brown paper they never had how come Ramaphosa never had to go to Russia look because the Queen Rules

@gilbertestates8520

2 ай бұрын

Eskom,Prada and more they stole the PROJECT as they are

@gilbertestates8520

2 ай бұрын

My husband was murded and nothing was INVESTIGATED put I was placed on the streets because I am asking for service delivery. And my husband case be investigated as a Station COMMONDER put me out of my home put on the town CBD , MAYOR SAID HE WON'T HELP MY kids are living 2year with no lights as I am the main Line as Eskom 447

@gilbertestates8520

2 ай бұрын

Give back you too

1st hand information for SA,so many things we were not aware of we as the public,Thank you President Mbeki❤

If you know former South African president mr Mbeki believe me you are excellent gentleman who knows politics. Whatever he said that he is truthful polite and political person

@Coco-kw3iv

2 ай бұрын

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@dimsdays

2 ай бұрын

Seriously WTF. You dont know your history. 300 000 South African men woman and children died at his hand through his arrogance and Aids denialist policies. FACT. GOOGLE IT. All his banning of life saving drugs was stamped by the ANC Parliament. NOBODY mentions or even knows this. UNBELIEVABLE. A local genocide forgotten. No justice for those souls. Victims of THABO MBEKI. Disgusting.

Well .Well Said we Pray for Positive Change that Embraces the people of South Africa God Bless us All Amen🙏🙏🙏

Mr President Mbeki....... thank you kindly for the truth so we can start building a better SA for EVERYONE!

President Mbeki is an intellectual and his exposition on what happened in RSA is spot on. It is a shame that he was not given a mandate to lead for longer.

@user-kb7ic2pi6x

2 ай бұрын

❤African Presidents fuck up big tym whn they lead for long.Take Zimbabwe.

@glenblignaut9977

2 ай бұрын

Brains? ..LOL when he said Aid's didn't exist? How many mostly black people died because of it. Rather Yahoo Pastor Manning 'This will shock South Africans'

@dimsdays

2 ай бұрын

Seriously WTF. Or KILL for longer. You dont know your history. 300 000 South African men woman and children died at his hand through his arrogance and Aids denialist policies. FACT. GOOGLE IT. All his banning of life saving drugs was stamped by the ANC Parliament. NOBODY mentions or even knows this. UNBELIEVABLE. A local genocide forgotten. No justice for those souls. Victims of THABO MBEKI. Disgusting.

Thank you President Mbeki, a great lecture and hope South Africans listen and understand how clearly you explain what is there in the public domain. I plead with South Africans to read and share. I'm invigorated by your lecture. Pule

President Mbeki i agree you are a good intelligent person God Bless you ❤😂

Nobody mentions the fact that the south african educational system is also destroyed and we have let the youth down, keeping them in ignorance and on the pavements. Thanks for a very insightful speech!

Truth always comes out.Action needs to be taken to save the democratic Republic of S.African and other African countries

@punyezwacynthoria4908

2 ай бұрын

What democratic South Africa for 30 years always a communistic government not a Democratic one.

@DumaM-ir7rk

2 ай бұрын

Mbeki had two third majority but failed to save blacks. We wouldn’t be here as black today or Zuma wouldn’t be back in politics if Mbeki did the right thing

@mariammaparamasivan796

2 ай бұрын

Thank you President Mbeki for explaining how our beloved South Africa as come to a place of bankruptcy i Believe South Africa is in the hand of God I believe his hand will make a way for our country I pray this in Jesus mighty name amen ❤

@user-rj2yw3kl8z

2 ай бұрын

​@@punyezwacynthoria4908THUMPS UP X 1000 !!!

@glenblignaut9977

2 ай бұрын

It will never work.. too many greedy individuals.

President Thabo he was a good leader because he know economic that's why that time our economy was growing up

@ramasodimalete2699

2 ай бұрын

Mbheki led SA out of the global recession of 2007.

@DumaM-ir7rk

2 ай бұрын

Mbeki he is not really an economist. He is the theorist he studied BA economic not Bachelor of commerce in economics. Huge difference and many still don’t understand product called education. Mbeki made it because he listened to the criminals who run the world. Those who advices him to buy arms when it was not necessary

@unathimichaelmxaku8105

2 ай бұрын

Until butternut head came in power..

@DumaM-ir7rk

2 ай бұрын

@ unathimichaelmxaku8105 butter nut is jou Pa jou moer

@DumaM-ir7rk

2 ай бұрын

@ unathimichaelmxaku8105 butternut is jou Pa jou moer

Powerful Speech that ALL the South African Children, Young Persons & Adults should watch. Aroha nui Big Love from Aotearoa New Zealand land of the Maori warrior people. ❤🎯💯👍💫

@hallodanel1456

2 ай бұрын

Yes,I agree.I made me very sad.

@johnjacob8168

2 ай бұрын

George Soros' Youth League. We belong to the NGOs .....WEF, WHO, ICC, UN etc

@johnjacob8168

2 ай бұрын

Thabo communism died in Russia 30 years ago. It is alive in China, it is alive under Biden, Trudeau, Macron . Why are you trying to mislead us?

I salute you Mr President Thabo Mbeki.......for having the courage to speak the real truth. This message SA need to respond to. Who will be the one who will lead SA to the promised land in the upcoming election?

He is really a wiseman.......thank you so much sir, for exposing the truth. People do not understand well the problem in DRC.

@salemwilson1513

2 ай бұрын

There is nothing he has exposed! He should talk about over 12 millions of Congolese that have succumbed under FPR/Kagame led wars in 🇨🇩. He should have exposed how Kagame has failed his genocide over Congolese Tutsi plan and that Congo has exposed his nakedness in politics. He should have exposed how Kagame himself arms FRLD/interahamwe back to Congo 🇨🇩, kill Tutsi Congolese in order to accuse the government to commit these atrocities and gain sympathy and support from the international community to keep himself in Congo 🇨🇩, try to Balkanize the country in order to build Hima kingdom!…. His wisdom doesn’t come from supporting the unsupportable but say, disclose and stand for the truth and nothing but the truth! Mbeki on this he has missed the point and Congolese people and the government now understand who he is and what he stands for!… I hope the Congo 🇨🇩 government won’t need him in the next negotiations because he supports the country’s enemy of all times

President Mbeki if you take the chair I shall wote for you . I heard you will be a KING for South Africa. Thank you

@ThenjiweRosemaryNsindane

2 ай бұрын

Hhaibo where is Cope?His organization

Mr Mbeki - A brilliant mind, a thinker, please come back and be South Africa’s President, we need you more than any political party in South Africa 🇿🇦

@dimsdays

2 ай бұрын

300 000 South African men woman and children died on his watch through his arrogance and Aids denialist policies. All voted for and sanctioned by the ANC Parliament. NOBODY mentions or even knows this. UNBELIEVABLE. A local genocide forgotten. No justice for those souls. Victims of THABO MBEKI. Disgusting.

Thank you Mr Mbeki for being so honest. We as citizens of this beautiful country need to hear this and ponder on it.

@pieterharmse3657

Ай бұрын

I don't think you know the difference between disaster and disaster. You're obviously one of those fake matriculants

You're visionary. Africa needs your counsel more than ever. Telling the truth will liberate Africa from the tyrants and selfish leaders.

@la-ry1ms

2 ай бұрын

Why didn't he implement the vision when he was president

@jamesmugenyi319

2 ай бұрын

@@la-ry1ms Leadership is close to building a foundation. Noted that he left a strong foundation which has been mismanaged.

@Fokendran

2 ай бұрын

​@@jamesmugenyi319absolutely Sir

@Fokendran

2 ай бұрын

I'm listening to this at 3 in the morning but can't put my phone away. This is so on point.

@kassimmonds

2 ай бұрын

@@la-ry1ms Probably because hindsight is 20/20. He explained in this speech that they expected the boere to fight them on their democracy but they didnt expect it to come from within the ANC, which is what the Zuma government and now the MK are. They belong to Moscow and want our democracy to fail so they can have free range to loot under socialism and eventually communism. The ANC is divided and slowly forcing out the bad players, he said himself we need revolution in Government. What I find interesting is he never said how to achieve it.

Thank you for being so honest. We all need this so much. We need truth, and we need peace. We are a beautiful people that need God in our life to realize that we all have a place in this country. Let us put the past in the past. Let us look forward and all play our part in building and bettering our lives to show the world how it is done. Greed is the biggest problem in man's life!!! There is light at the end of the tunnel 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

@florencediallo8340

2 ай бұрын

Indeed, we desperately need each other as the citizens is this country. Race and colour are irrelevant. Patriotism MUST take PRECEDENCE over all. We need to fix, repair, revive our country.

@BeeBee-wu1fz

2 ай бұрын

Greed, cowardice and ignorance. Africa needs people who knows how a government is supposed to be run. Those in power now do not. Whites should not own the majority of African land.

Brilliant and insightful! I have always admired Thabo's intellectual rigor, economic insight and political savvy. We as South Africans need to wake up and understand our political policies and languages so that we may not be fooled by leaders such as Jacob Zuma. Thank Mr. President ❤

@delysiacowley8640

2 ай бұрын

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Mr. Mbeki is a pleasure to listen to. As an ex Nat supporter I agree with aLl of Mr. Mbeki's opinions. He is a well educated, eloquent man and I'm so sorry he is not our President. Almost all of us white people simply want leadership that is led by an educated, honest, government that provides the most basic needs to it's nation.

@tersiaraath799

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely.

@glenblignaut9977

2 ай бұрын

Dream on you dumb bell don't you see the mistakes in what he says?

One factor he briefly mentioned, and then left, was the rampant and blatant nepotism and corruption that bleeds the country

@kcv5105

Ай бұрын

Pretty much alluded to it. However a speech to a different audience and perhaps cautious about missing off the party members with their snouts in the trough, as he speaks. Needs a more fiery and charismatic leader to change direction.

The video was cut short of former President Thabo Mbeki. Excellent speech. We call it a home run in the USA.

Listening to president Mbeki speak takes me back to a time of optimism, pride and good will in South Africa.

The full speech is just a gem. If these were his last words I would take them with me everywhere!

@mancobaggmasina

2 ай бұрын

Wow 😳 what a cultivated insight my sister. I say WOW again. You understand life generally before any socio-eco politics is involved. RESPECT 💯

@godenimidwellsabela3024

2 ай бұрын

❤

@martinhettie2454

2 ай бұрын

Thaba Mbeki, ​@@mancobaggmasinamust be our Preident! What a excellent speech,honest,what a man!

@mancobaggmasina

2 ай бұрын

@@martinhettie2454 yes he is a good man, just like you are and all others. However, that doesn't make one a saint, like Mbeki had portrayed himself.

@robynnelott6022

2 ай бұрын

He had his faults but i think he has been the best of the bunch

Thank you, Mr president Thabo mbeki for alerting us.

@janevanreenen8768

2 ай бұрын

Too late….

@AlettaNMulaudzi

2 ай бұрын

If we can stand together, educate one another, support each other, and work together as one nation, we can come up with brilliant ideas on how to change things in our country (South Africa)

If President Mbeki was running for President I'd vote for this gentleman ❤

@blackbird9992

2 ай бұрын

Same here. I wouldve voted back then but i wasnt eligible. Ended up voting for uncle Cyril and regreted it

@bonganimoloi3186

2 ай бұрын

My President 🤞🏾

@nokoramahanelo1035

2 ай бұрын

U like being led by pensioners. Have u no shame...we need young people with fresh ideas ,leaders who will actually be alive to see their ideas come to fruition

@Fokendran

2 ай бұрын

​​@@nokoramahanelo1035unfortunately this current young leaders have ideas..but no vision. That's why they can make a speech but when it leads to destruction they don't know what to do except protest and become violent. Has any young leaders or new leader spoken about these things this man speaks about?

@phiwamakhanya8998

2 ай бұрын

Mr Mbeki, I'm respecting you because you are an elder but I don't respect the decisions that you took during your tunure as a presidet...Hundred thousand of people died of HIV because you and Manto Msimango said HIV doesn't cause Aids...Parents died, grandparents had to take over, homes were childheaded and poverty took over, drugs to ease the pain and crime to fend for themselves....The only thing that you good at it is speeches and poems!!!

Thanks for the truth 🙏 Mr President Thabo Mbeki... let the God of Mount Zion protect you and your family from now and forever and ever ❤❤❤

So good to hear some common sense. We are one nation, and could all work together to bring the country back to normality

He was in his element u Dlamini very clear in his thinking and very articulate even at a ripe old age.

🎉🎉🎉what a speech old man...I feel pity for people who do not analyse positively bcoz even such a speech and information won't be accepted😢 😢😢😢

@janedawson335

2 ай бұрын

There will be many who do listen though so let’s focus on that ❤

@lettieolivier8127

2 ай бұрын

Be positive. Change your mindset. Yes, there will be the ones who do not accept this speech, but let them become the minority. Mr Thabo Mbeki has been around, a very wise elderly man. One at who's feet one can go sit+listen. Listen to the older generation, you young ones.....

@peterdlamini2691

2 ай бұрын

It's my first time to watch a speech of this long, it's listenable, attractive and truthful. One word draws me to the other until I pay full attention. Thank you Madara thank old man🎉❤

@jeritahmashao5448

2 ай бұрын

So powerful & the only truth said by Mr Thabo Mbeki ,but now from here where to??as no one in ANC gov is accountable

Straight Talk does not break any Friendship. It is a Good Remedy that has to be turned into a positive and an effective Culture of South Africa going forward into the Future. ❤❤❤

19:17 Those who hv best interest of S.A with take advice from you Mr Mbeki....You hv the genuine love for your country

@dimsdays

2 ай бұрын

Seriously WTF. You dont know your history. 300 000 South African men woman and children died at his hand through his arrogance and Aids denialist policies. FACT. GOOGLE IT. All his banning of life saving drugs was stamped by the ANC Parliament. NOBODY mentions or even knows this. UNBELIEVABLE. A local genocide forgotten. No justice for those souls. Victims of THABO MBEKI. Disgusting.

Thanks, Mr. President for clarity and eye opening. We appreciate.

Dish it up Mr president, thruth will always stand out

@nhlanhlakubheka222

2 ай бұрын

Truth is that him (Mbeki) has been wanting to be a president for ever like Mugabe. He though he was done with Zuma whe he removed him from government 2015.

@nhlanhlakubheka222

2 ай бұрын

One day he must talk about the biggest corruption of all time. Arms deal worth over 40 billion 1999 to 2000 corruption during he time in office

Well... I only ha have one question Where was the accountability of ANC during tenure 2?

@phinniasmatends1394

2 ай бұрын

The people who were destroying the country were at the helm so they were not reporting to anyone,they had the keys, Jacob Zuma let all this

@phinniasmatends1394

2 ай бұрын

My worry is Ramaphosa is not as effective as Mbeki, Cyril needs to be ruthless in arresting corruption

@firstcomment749

Ай бұрын

Anc really abandoned him + SA when his re-election came up. None of them nor the party, deserve his loyalty. All of them knew both candidates for many yrs. They knew what SA's immediate future would be, but for some or other reason they did + still do not care. We all are creatures of habit + so they proved to be for the umpteenth time now - chopping + changing without being concerned abt destabilising the party's beloved major support bases or the ppl of SA. Good for him to open up issues that should have been transparent from the onset. Because here we are again with a lot of infantile drama to repeat what should have been avoided in the 1st place by the adults in the room. Someone should tell these commie die hards - Russia came a long way in a short time since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Most of the SA commie die hards are still stuck in primitive self interest, somewhere in Leninism from 200 yrs ago.

Yes...!!! There we go... Thank you very much Ladit, Your Exc. Tambu Mbeki.... Your clear and mature analysis in SA reviberates throughout Africa for true sons & daughters with passions for good leaderships. Thank you sir. Jokjokamalo.

We all became poorer during the 30yrs except the ANC and their friends. They suddenly got very rich.all the rich people are fleeing the country. The rich taxpayers are leaving, leaving behind unemployed people. Some educated but unemployed because no businesses can surviving this climate

Great critical Analysis from this great Leader! Pure intelligence ☝️☝️🇿🇦

A great eye opening speech by former President Thabo Mbeki, daring to say it like it is. I wish him good health.

A great shame he didn't speak out earlier, he is a well respected man

Very informative and detailed as to what happened. I really loved this lecture.

Love it ONLY THE TRUTH nothing but THE TRUTH

Respect this man! Support him totally

We The educated ones love you Thabo, I thank you.

@dimsdays

2 ай бұрын

Seriously educated one? WTF. You dont know your history. 300 000 South African men woman and children died at his hand through his arrogance and Aids denialist policies. FACT. GOOGLE IT. All his banning of life saving drugs was stamped by the ANC Parliament. NOBODY mentions or even knows this. UNBELIEVABLE. A local genocide forgotten. No justice for those souls. Victims of THABO MBEKI. Disgusting.

You were the last president of South Africa , the other 2.......izilima

Very important information. The challenges are great. The people of South Africa have to do a evaluations of themselves now in order to reach possible solutions.

I in person from zimbabwe , l rate President Mbeki as an icon freedom fighter for the total emancipation of African people, long live tate Mr President Mbeki, l salute you

President Mbeki is an excellent speaker. 👏 This is so informative and interesting.

Many leaders would end up short when it comes to knowledge,insight,intelligence,transparency and the analysis Mr.Mbeki can bring forth This man has been a professional,a true politician,however with an absolute gentlemanly conduct...very well educated,to say the least

@prosperitashacks9674

2 ай бұрын

This guy is still fit to be president, he is way better than any candidate contesting

@dimsdays

2 ай бұрын

Seriously WTF. You dont know your history. 300 000 South African men woman and children died at his hand through his arrogance and Aids denialist policies. FACT. GOOGLE IT. All his banning of life saving drugs was stamped by the ANC Parliament. NOBODY mentions or even knows this. UNBELIEVABLE. A local genocide forgotten. No justice for those souls. Victims of THABO MBEKI. Disgusting.

TRUTH WILL REMAIN JUST THAT ✍️ SO MANY QUESTIONS EVEN TODATE! ZONDO COMMISSION REPORT ITS STILL THERE !!! OUR SOUTH AFRICA ✍️

Thanks,I wish we were able to put you as our president on upcoming elections. Salute the son of the soil.

Thank you so much MR Mbeki you made my day so that makes me to keep my vote for ANC only if they promise to get rid of all the elements who are trying to fight our democracy may the mighty god bless you 🙏

One African leader that I respect so much Mbeki

@dimsdays

2 ай бұрын

Seriously WTF. You dont know your history. 300 000 South African men woman and children died at his hand through his arrogance and Aids denialist policies. FACT. GOOGLE IT. All his banning of life saving drugs was stamped by the ANC Parliament. NOBODY mentions or even knows this. UNBELIEVABLE. A local genocide forgotten. No justice for those souls. Victims of THABO MBEKI. Disgusting.

SAY IT MBEKI FOR THE TRUTH IS WHAT THE NATION SHOULD HEAR AND VISIONARIES WILL SEE THE WAY FORWARD BECAUSE THE WERE HURDLES IN BETWEEN

To speak the truth is only meaning that what you love and fight for and yet fighting to stop the wrong doing of those who do not love our beautiful Country 😢

That was very profound. Accept or deny it, love him or hate him, my mind is getting clearer to the questions I had.

A true patriot

@josephmkhondo125

2 ай бұрын

To what, the country, white people , black people or himself. what is COPE. Marikana what was his stand? . Freedom charter what did he do to achieve its goals?

@Fokendran

2 ай бұрын

​@@josephmkhondo125 what was the stand of many current leaders against those things that he stated.. nothing? What this great man said was actually about all these things in one statement.. what has happened in 30 years of democracy. You can see he's not a racist the way he speaks but he's very very intelligent in his analysis. But few can grab the truth he speaks because many are looking at him and hearing him with race already in their hearts and he doesn't speak nonsense that they want to hear. The nonsense that current leaders speak. Well done Mr Mbeki🎉

@josephmkhondo125

2 ай бұрын

If a person says white people stole black people's land , is that racism . or black people in this country of theirs are poor because of the effects and the apartheid system, is that being racist. if one says white people own key means of economic production in this country and they deal unfairly to black people who qualify to be part of that group and are not considered but they take those opportunities and hand them to other white people, eg supervisors position ( choosing a simple example) white man 3 months black person 4 years then a white man get the position by the way it was the black man that thought the white man the work. academic qualification lets not mention it. with the money he can buy a house and car at a better interest rates compared to the black man, (the Bank saga about interest rates) is this not racism. And you say to us we wanna hear people who speaks racism no we want leaders who will face the racist system and destroy it . if we are not allowed to eat at the dinner table( resources of our country) we destroy the dinner table then all of us go hungry but we cannot watch a white man with white friends eat in Afrika while we go hungry. If white people do not allow black people to part of the mean of economic production is not gonna end well. we dont hate white people we hate the white system that is running the economic affairs of this country and this man Mbheki is there to protect the white man system . We stand on what Chris Hani stood on. This is our Land and the white man stole it they must return the land .@@Fokendran

One of the greatest statesmen of this continent!

@josephmkhondo125

2 ай бұрын

Greatest, what did he do against the white colonialists and the imperialist on this continent with his good speeches. for Africans he is not on top 20 of best leaders. He is a man that played it safe for himself.

My president, always delivering an eye opening speech, keep educating us Africans...

Thanks cde former President Thabo Mbeki viva true leadership

Thank you Mr president. 😊

Dear sir the quality of everything just unravelled, work is a job not a passion, corruption became a master profession at every level

Great lecture indeed, he unfolded all the on going and things. And correct the false narrative which is been preached by those who want to see the democratic country fail decimal. I so wish they can team up one more time with JZ to fix our country.

Thabo Mbeki a great African leader and a very wise man able to use his experience and knowledge in order to make sense and see things as they are.

Every word of this speech from Mr Mbeki is exposing the blatant corruption not only of JZ but also Ramaposa

@garyteeters-ok3hc

2 ай бұрын

Tribal minds

@mojalefamzananda4511

2 ай бұрын

ramaphosa and glancore

@dumisanichibi1326

2 ай бұрын

​@@garyteeters-ok3hcnothing tribal. Ramaphosa is controlled by business interest (Stellenbosch) and Zuma is the illiterate and tribal one controlled by Indians and greed .

@florencediallo8340

2 ай бұрын

Truth and only truth was told elaborately.

@garyteeters-ok3hc

2 ай бұрын

His facts are correct but the tribal minds of the African will never allow them to live and function as a civilized society and people's

Thank you for your continuous informational insights into current & future African leadership scopes..

Eloquent and truthful speech from the President, Thabo Mbeki.❤

That's what I've been suspecting all these years but did not have a clue of what was really happening. Thanks for the information it's really mind blowing.

In Africa we don't understand politics we support people and we understand what is loyalty we think loyalty is to support foolish because it's coming from one we like when facts are coming from a person we don't like we criticise so we vote for fervour regardless of who are they do they fit for that, we vote because of breadcrumbs in hope to find bread we don't care of the future of our country but how we benefit from who ruling

@VusiSimonMokoena

2 ай бұрын

I'm with you there✊

President Mbeki. We should be proud of how articulate and knowledgeable our leaders sound compared to the other side of the world... no Apprentice has beens...

@gillianmaxted1856

2 ай бұрын

It is singular, Leader!

@janevanreenen8768

2 ай бұрын

Not all our leaders..not by a long shot.. Mbeki comes close….

@user-mk2hm2zr7n

2 ай бұрын

You are a joke

@tsholomoloto7788

2 ай бұрын

Before taking over anc should have learnt a lot from the previous gov. But because of need anc took over without any knowledge of governing. You failed Mr president anc failed

@tsholomoloto7788

2 ай бұрын

Because of greed and anger to date you took over without any form of knowledge to govern. So no excuses. Anc failed dismally. Anc was in a hurry to be rich.

Thanks Tata Thabo what a profound message genius indeed

Such a gentleman and eloquent speaker with a brilliant mind…love him❤

Thankyou Mr Thabo Mbeki for bieng such an honest man.Great speech ❤

@dimsdays

2 ай бұрын

Seriously WTF. You dont know your history. 300 000 South African men woman and children died at his hand through his arrogance and Aids denialist policies. FACT. GOOGLE IT. All his banning of life saving drugs was stamped by the ANC Parliament. NOBODY mentions or even knows this. UNBELIEVABLE. A local genocide forgotten. No justice for those souls. Victims of THABO MBEKI. Disgusting.

This StateMan always stands to Spell out the Truth... Weather you like him or not, he doesn't care about that BUT ONLY THE TRUTH ABOUT EVERY SUBJECT HE TOUCHES

@nhlanhlakubheka222

2 ай бұрын

He only speak the truth but doesn't want to hear the truth, ambassadors of state capture failed to prove that there was a state capture that is Pravin Gordan and ramaphosa. But him Mbeki doesn't want to hear that truth it a shame.

@ntombikaysedanisa8645

2 ай бұрын

But the corruption was noted from abroad that the Guptas are having unxplained monies that were traced back to our country, led by Zuma, and thats when it was known. And Guptas fled why

@nhlanhlakubheka222

2 ай бұрын

@@ntombikaysedanisa8645 put your fact together Guptas left the country because their live was made to be difficult after banks closed their account. Why the state had to return back Gupta properties after freezing them?

@chrissibisi1523

2 ай бұрын

Imported exploitation wisdom: This is all utter nuisance we always copy people who got no concern with us black Africa there are lot people wise than the sweet poison poised to us Africans but anyway we are dead morons already and there are no more deaths expected. Cry Beloved Country people abusing power vested in them so shamefully to the audiences who their minds are packed in the box. Tautology teachings! Who are we trying to impress serving this concoction?

@dimsdays

2 ай бұрын

Seriously WTF. You dont know your history. 300 000 South African men woman and children died at his hand through his arrogance and Aids denialist policies. FACT. GOOGLE IT. All his banning of life saving drugs was stamped by the ANC Parliament. NOBODY mentions or even knows this. UNBELIEVABLE. A local genocide forgotten. No justice for those souls. Victims of THABO MBEKI. Disgusting.

It's about time that someone reliable as Mr Mbeki revealed the truth what actually went wrong since 1994. Much respect for him. I think that most people in SA don't care who the president is, as long as he leads us into a better future. 👍👍👍👏👏👏👏

Well spoken Mr Mbeki,age number one promised me an RDP house in 1996,now 28 years age two in 2024 still carrying a CForm without a house, what you're saying is totally the truth,i respect your so much 👊

UNITY IS NEEDED! THESE TIME ARE MAKE OR BREAK

@henkvandervossen6616

2 ай бұрын

Unity, as in enforced, is not needed in a democracy. Except for a unity and consistancy in policies

@thereal1426

2 ай бұрын

@@henkvandervossen6616 🤡 I am not talking to you, vAn dEr vOSsEn

I think, most of the speech touches on reality. There's absolutely no denying that things have gone south in the last 10 plus years in SA politics which has negatively affected the economic dynamics of the country. However, Thabo Mbeki has to also understand that, the West is working hard to destroy not only SA but the whole of African continent. For instance, why should the US threaten sanctions just because SA has not sanctioned Russia? SA is part of the BRICS and that is not something pleasing the West. So the chaos that's in SA, is also found elsewhere where the West feels like its hegemony is threatened. The DR Congo and Ethiopia are prime example here. Another point I did not agree with, is to try and draw comparison between Leninism and what is happening in SA. Mr. the president, there's no perfect politico-economic system. The perfect system is just the one that works best for a particular country. For example, China is theoretically referred to as a communist country. So, has not China surpassed the US in many fields, technological, infrastructure, economy (calculated in terms of PPP? ....)? So, when this Sir introduced the topic of communism, he sounded more like a Western ideologue than an African realist. Africans should learn to defend what is beneficial to them in terms of national and continental interests and not just sounding emotional towards superpowers' systems that have nothing to do when it comes to African development. Bretton Woods institutions have been reportedly and supposedly helping Africa since the sixties (years of independence across the continent). What has Africa achieved as a result of that besides colossal amounts of debt owed to the West? And why is communist China the one carrying out remarkable continent wide infrastructure projects that the West never realized in the last 70 years? And, the most capitalist country in the word, doesn't it have poors and homeless folks who cannot even afford medical care and education? I think the solution for Africa does not lie within the hands of highly educateds who fail to look at issues from the real perspective and who sound like they're serving the West. Last but not least: does SA have issues? Of course. Is a solution to the problems urgent? Surely more than urgent as it is long overdue. Does the western style of capitalism have a solution for SA? definitely not. South African political elites (blacks, coloreds, whites, Indians) need to sit down together and talk their probs candidly and honestly and carry forward South Africa together. Unity is needed but not at the cost of being told what to do by the West, as the West will never allow SA to be what it deserves to be: A Continental (African) Superpower that works for the overall development of Africa and the Global South. If that is not the goal of President Mbeki, then he better focus on philanthropy and retire from any political speeches.

@henkvandervossen6616

2 ай бұрын

Interesting that you mention chinese investments. Thecreality is those investments are financed by China, with harsh terms that bleed Africa and it is the chinese that benefit the most, not Africa, saddled with these loss generating white elephants.

@LizoMtsolo-qd7wn

2 ай бұрын

Well said, thanks for this.

@omarmy3495

2 ай бұрын

I could not have been more succinct in articulating a well thought out critique. Thanks.

@SaffaGains

2 ай бұрын

I don't know if you know this, but China is taking on projects they know African countries can never pay back. They then claim exclusive mineral rights of certain lands in that country. It need not be mineral rights. It can be existing infrastructure such as ports. Also, the leaders of those countries also get fat stacks. Clearly it is not the Western forces or Eastern forces screwing Africa. The only logical problem is the selfish leaders who want to enrich themselves and not care enough of the common man. Also, for some reason, people like to vote for these individuals initially, and then they stay like the plague. People in the democracy also need to take accountability for who they are voting for. Yes who gets the leaders in power? Typically it is leaders talking about the African socialist dream. Preaching the evils of the western society while planning the best route to loot. If people just simply choose their leaders wisely, they will force their leaders to be more ethical, they will need to think twice before stealing everything clean. China is not good because of socialism, Chine grew because their leaders cared a bit more about China than themselves.

@hellequingentlemanbastard9497

2 ай бұрын

It's not only happening in South Africa or the African Continent. This is happening EVERYWHERE, just the tools that are being used are slightly different for each and every country. It's that handful of mega rich people from all over the World that have installed their puppeticians in each and every country to destroy those countries and to enslave the worlds population. From Russia over China and South Africa to Europe and the Americas you'll see the same "clique" in the background pulling the strings. All those so called "Governments" are installing or pushing to some degree or other the SAME ultimate tools for absolute control over the people, from State and Private Censorship over Bio-metric ID's to Digital Currencies. Divide, Conquer and destroy the dissenting voices is the Agenda of all Tyrants throughout human history, unfortunately now with all this technology this is made so much easier for them. My Grandfather told us over and over the following; "The Truth doesn't need the censorship of the Lie, but the Lie on the other hand needs the censorship of the truth to survive." Check out the lectures and interviews and books like "Remembering the misremembered Left" from Stephen Coughlin of what we're seeing. I would use more platforms than just KZread, because of what has been already censored here.

i hope we as South African are looking, listening and observing the lay down from former president.

I salute you Zizi you are telling the truth as it is we need leaders who are truthful like you South Africa is destroyed by people within it who want to benefit.

This man as president of a unity government between ANC, DA & IFP would save SA

@florencediallo8340

2 ай бұрын

The only problem is he is in the WRONG party.

President Mwalimu Julius Nyerere has left a similar speech about the ongoing Eastern Congo confict and how to end this war,the matter must be addressed politically not by arms,this world has become deaf,may The Lord blesses this great leader

@johanjohan1045

2 ай бұрын

He that destroyed Tanzania economy.

@michellekabanga3612

2 ай бұрын

Tutsi s are originally from somali and yemen they nothing to do with central africa ubwenge will never pass mbeki also said tutsi are not kongolese and they will be after killing 15 millions of innocents kongolese

@michellekabanga3612

2 ай бұрын

Never be

@ObjectTurmoil

2 ай бұрын

Nyerere, who? Don't even bring those useless names

Extremely informative, thouroughly enjoyed his intellectual dissection of what has transpired in the country. It surely gives me a clearer view of what to do for a way forward

President Mbeki,is really a man of wisdom!

Thank you Mr.President.

Thanks President Mbeki for being very generous with the truth. We need such for progress.

What this guy is saying is he is the only one who is capable of leading this country and no one else 😢😢