Zuma vs Mbeki: the epic chess game that defined South Africa, from ANC to MK Party

In today’s episode, we dive deep into history. We explore the epic relationship between former presidents Mbeki and Zuma, from the earlier detention together in Eswatini to their rivalry in the ranks of the ANC and Zuma’s uktimare support of thd MK Party.
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1. Partnership of Mbeki and Zuma
2. Rivalry of Mbeki and Zuma
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00:00:00 - Introduction
00:00:38 - Early life
00:08:55 - Partnership
00:19:49 - Rivalry
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Credits:
Director: Bongani Nkosi
Producer: Oratile Kekana
Production Manager: Noluthando Mkhize
DOP and Editor: Bongani Nkosi
2nd camera operator and assistant editor: Lesego Kgobe
Photographer: Bongani Nkosi
Sound: Kgothatso Senne
Social Media Manager: Oratile Kekana
About me: Dr Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh is an author, scholar and founder of the Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh Xperience (SMWX), a digital, youth-centred current affairs platform. He holds a DPhil in International Relations from the University of Oxford and is a Lecturer in International Relations at Wits.

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  • @manimavuso
    @manimavuso3 ай бұрын

    I want to take this opportunity to appreciate and pay heed toward Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh. Great job as always

  • @tholwanabutelezi8954
    @tholwanabutelezi89543 ай бұрын

    The president Mbeki and deputy president Zuma era was for real the golden era in South Africa.

  • @gidmosia7065

    @gidmosia7065

    3 ай бұрын

    The true take over of blacks from whites regime

  • @nathanielkgobe427

    @nathanielkgobe427

    2 ай бұрын

    True, this was really a golden era were two old political friends worked together, everything flourished and went quet well, until the white man very cunningly intervened using one of the most dangerous figure that hates his fellow Safricans with passion and continues the agenda of the enemy, and now ALL SOUTH AFRICANS ARE DYING FROM HUNGER, AND RENDERED THE WHOLE SAFRICA A DEN OF ALL SORTS OF CRIMINALITY, CRY AFRICA CRY 😭😭😭

  • @alexemergineer3202
    @alexemergineer32023 ай бұрын

    Sizwe. Can you bring Moeletsi Mbeki. To talk about SA economic history and what should happen from 2024 going forward. ❤❤

  • @tebohotokullo4610

    @tebohotokullo4610

    3 ай бұрын

    That's a great idea alex

  • @alexandernyamazana4795

    @alexandernyamazana4795

    3 ай бұрын

    That one is always putting the blame on the black elite who we all agree are a problem, yet we all know where the root of the problem is and he fails to articulate that while concentrating on the black bourgeoisie.

  • @roeteroestof3896

    @roeteroestof3896

    3 ай бұрын

    Why not both Zuma and Mbeki TOGETHER

  • @HamandisheMpofu

    @HamandisheMpofu

    3 ай бұрын

    His a bitter economist. Very confusing individual that 1. 🤣

  • @shaistamohammed625

    @shaistamohammed625

    3 ай бұрын

    Correct both can work together with ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @user-hk3vk1pl5n
    @user-hk3vk1pl5n3 ай бұрын

    This is the decolonization of education, I'm talking about. We are not saying we don't want to learn about WW2 etc., but to Southern Africans especially, these lessons are of the essence. Tanki Sizwe 👊Carry on my Guy 💪

  • @bejesikelela74
    @bejesikelela743 ай бұрын

    Can you do where Zuma And Malema work together swiping out Mbeki and where Malema turned his back against Zuma

  • @williemarthinus9619
    @williemarthinus96193 ай бұрын

    Excellent piece of SA history.

  • @Coco-kw3iv
    @Coco-kw3iv3 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much Sizwe. How I wish these two great political fathers could come together and do what is right for the love of the people and leave us with a beautiful legacy for the last chapter...

  • @andile5945
    @andile59453 ай бұрын

    Brilliant, Sizwe. You've become - with your team - a south african political expert in my eyes. Great coverage!!

  • @malakiamatheus1822
    @malakiamatheus18223 ай бұрын

    Well researched and packaged for us your audience.

  • @ConversationsWithJesusChrist
    @ConversationsWithJesusChrist3 ай бұрын

    "Yayy rainbow nation, Constitution, and all that... and Tintswalo's life begins"😂😂😂😭😭 DID I NOT LAUGH

  • @Jay-rd3hn

    @Jay-rd3hn

    3 ай бұрын

    Rainbow Nation was a concept that most people didn’t know it was new and South Africa 🇿🇦 would overcome as it overcame apartheid.

  • @senzomemela1311

    @senzomemela1311

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@Jay-rd3hna rainbow only dominated by one superior color...is no rainbow at all...

  • @Jay-rd3hn

    @Jay-rd3hn

    3 ай бұрын

    @@senzomemela1311 it difficult to get it right because we still using their language to study from grade R until university level. Tell me one school in town here South Africa 🇿🇦 that is using vernacular to study all subjects until matric. The worse thing is the yards we have in township are so small you can’t even extend RDP house to build a house of your dreams with swimming pools. I have seen developers building tiny houses for about R600k in a land area of 262 metre squares and that is a total ripoff. Most houses in towns you will find that the yards starts from 800 metre squares. Apartheid is not over yet in South Africa 🇿🇦 because you can’t go to town find school that teaches African language as second language but you mostly find schools teaching in English and Afrikaans or English or Afrikaans as second language like during apartheid and we say apartheid is over in South Africa 🇿🇦. Language is information ℹ️ and information is knowledge, without knowledge you died even bible says my people are dying because of lack of knowledge. People who are not informed they can’t produce anything they will always follow those who are well informed and have knowledge.

  • @mzikantumatoti4861

    @mzikantumatoti4861

    3 ай бұрын

    I died lol 😂😂😂😂 Sizwe

  • @babalontloko1680
    @babalontloko16803 ай бұрын

    By far two of the most polarizing figures in SA politics

  • @kwezilomsosonkwala4933
    @kwezilomsosonkwala49333 ай бұрын

    Thank you Doc. It would be lovely to have another episode about the relationship between Uncle Ranko (Cyril Ramaphosa) and Thabo Mbeki, particularly considering the recent tensions between them. Over the past two years, Thabo Mbeki has been critical of Ramaphosa's leadership, even going so far as to label him and others as "thieves." Despite Mbeki's vocal criticisms, Ramaphosa seems to maintain a more restrained approach, perhaps opting to avoid direct confrontation with Mbeki and refraining from engaging in the strong views expressed against him. These dynmics I, are significant, especially given the history between the two men. Notably, Ramaphosa has been mentioned twice in your story: once when he replaced Mbeki, and another time when Mbeki was selected instead of him to be president. These instances suggest a complex dynamic between the two leaders, characterized by a deep-seated rivalry.

  • @gidmosia7065

    @gidmosia7065

    3 ай бұрын

    Rama has been a white man s finger man from the time he has been in the trade unions struggle and the formation of cosatu/num puppet stunts an interesting figure adding the codesa fiasco Rama to date has been a big obstacle in the revolution

  • @donovancalvinmeyer1837

    @donovancalvinmeyer1837

    3 ай бұрын

    That would be interesting but is there rivalry or perceive rivalry , did Mbeki label Ramaphoso a "thieve " or was he not reffering to local leaders ?

  • @kwezilomsosonkwala4933

    @kwezilomsosonkwala4933

    3 ай бұрын

    Go watch the videos and analyze them yourself; that's what I gathered from watching and analyzing the videos. Secondly, it is crucial to note that most often when we speak, we speak from a social constructionism realm, meaning that we take knowledge and make sense of it within the context of social interactions and shared understandings. Then, I stated 'this suggests,' acknowledging the possibility that this might not be the fact, rather, solely my own interpretation of the sdynamics between the two individuals. Thank you

  • @menzimabuza3304

    @menzimabuza3304

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kwezilomsosonkwala4933You are correct there is a deep seated rivalry between Mbeki and Ramaphosa. In fact Mbeki and Zuma can co-exist but when you bring Ramaphosa into the mix Mbeki and Zuma can stand together. Mbeki had work well with Oliver Tambo. He had a difficult relationship with Chriss Hanni. Chriss Hanni together with Joe Slovo were for an military take over of the South African State and not a negotiated settlement. Chriss Hanni was a communist who advocated for the full distribution of land to the black majority and complete nationalisation of the mineral resources of South Africa, anything less than that was a deal break for Him. He was very popular within the movement. was only second to Oliver Tambo and Nelson Mandela in Popularity.

  • @tell.A.vision

    @tell.A.vision

    3 ай бұрын

    There's no profound relationship between the two... Can't make content out of nothing

  • @christinanxumalo6811
    @christinanxumalo68113 ай бұрын

    Thank you Dr Mpofu. I'm eagerly waiting for you to release a book on unfiltered South African history. Our grandchildren will learn a lot from such.

  • @tshiamomoreo
    @tshiamomoreo3 ай бұрын

    Thoroughly enjoying the Sunday segment,very educational. Ayeye🔥🔥

  • @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad to hear it

  • @unathimichaelmxaku8105
    @unathimichaelmxaku81053 ай бұрын

    Thanks Sizwe broer, very important topic for SA and the timing is 👌.

  • @makhosininkosi2430
    @makhosininkosi24303 ай бұрын

    Uyishayile mfwethu. Thank you

  • @fortunetshabalala534
    @fortunetshabalala5343 ай бұрын

    Interesting, but I couldn't help but wonder how much we do not know about what transpired behind the scenes during those CODESA negotiation years. Who was making decisions if not the ANC itself?🤔 how Zuma and Mbeki got to be removed may just be one of many valid questions to ask about most of the decision makings of that Era...

  • @thubalethugasa8379

    @thubalethugasa8379

    3 ай бұрын

    These chaps are sworn to secrecy, even when they fight they don't say out loud exactly what happened.

  • @shirleysamela2902

    @shirleysamela2902

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for taking us back on our president’s history 🙏🏿

  • @Siriuan
    @Siriuan3 ай бұрын

    Enkosi Buti Sizwe for the deep-dive! Fascinating history indeed :) We can safely say ANC belongs in a museum after these elections. Hope they don't self-destruct

  • @MmeliEe

    @MmeliEe

    3 ай бұрын

    You're very late, the ANC has already self-distructed. It begins where they force Msholozi into office and calling back Rama, it's only that the effects are not all instant

  • @deborahgreene1432

    @deborahgreene1432

    3 ай бұрын

    No 😂! Not museum 😂😂 Muslims... ANC has converted to Islam... don't you see what scarf they wear these days 🙆 theyve absolutely forsaken those ancestors whom they used to worship....this is not only called Change of Religion... The definition of this MADNESS is defined Cooku Land😢 what an Insult to those "madlozi'😊

  • @Dr_RisimatiMathye
    @Dr_RisimatiMathye3 ай бұрын

    My good Doc_ This high intellectual deduction of facts and clarity is superlative! Your high-level sequencing of facts is so unparalleled! I don't know how many times I watched this upload!🙌🌟🙌_ We need to hear more of this! Blessings 🙌

  • @eugeniazukiswaTshetsha11285
    @eugeniazukiswaTshetsha112853 ай бұрын

    "Nanko ke uLintswalo"!!!! Comic Sizwe!!! I & We truly love you SIZWE MPOFU WALSH - yhoo you are a DeepThinker mfan'akuthi - A PURE BLESSING in the whole of South Africa. We appreciate you - UPWARD & FORWARD SMWX !!!

  • @mohaleSlebea776
    @mohaleSlebea7763 ай бұрын

    Mbeki by far was the best to take this country further

  • @dumsiledlamini7536

    @dumsiledlamini7536

    2 ай бұрын

    I Agree!!!!!!!!!

  • @General_LG

    @General_LG

    2 ай бұрын

    i do not agree . but if i was a white man i would

  • @Aninomazi_

    @Aninomazi_

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@General_LGdumb

  • @MthobisiAyandaMntungwa

    @MthobisiAyandaMntungwa

    25 күн бұрын

    Not agree at all he had 2/3rd majority but never use it.

  • @siyandachonco
    @siyandachonco3 ай бұрын

    I loved this Sizwe. Thank you.

  • @mtilankatsa
    @mtilankatsa3 ай бұрын

    Great 👌 sizwe, great ✊🏿

  • @karabommako9859
    @karabommako98593 ай бұрын

    Thoroughly enjoyed watching this history lesson. I think these are extremely important, especially for the youth that might not be so clued up on our full political history. I am definitely in support of more segments like these.

  • @clintonleeuw3954
    @clintonleeuw39542 ай бұрын

    Love this… Please do more. There are more South Africans that don’t know this than do! Thank you for this

  • @lindzimcolzwane6761
    @lindzimcolzwane67613 ай бұрын

    Awesome.Thanks Dr Sizwe Mpofu Walsh.

  • @gladmabena4477
    @gladmabena44773 ай бұрын

    This would make a great Netflix series.

  • @MalibongweNombande
    @MalibongweNombande2 ай бұрын

    Dope history lesson as well as a great contribution to the writing of our history and narrative. Thanks Hlubi.

  • @caesar3909
    @caesar39093 ай бұрын

    Deep dive into Cyril Ramaposa would be great.

  • @mananammalegae

    @mananammalegae

    3 ай бұрын

    💯 thank you I agree that would be extremely helpful

  • @wfed3528

    @wfed3528

    3 ай бұрын

    His past is probably classified

  • @philaniphmsomi8340

    @philaniphmsomi8340

    3 ай бұрын

    sellout and apartheid spy. nothing more.

  • @gidmosia7065

    @gidmosia7065

    3 ай бұрын

    Indeed an interesting figure and feature as the fingernan

  • @thamimahlangu
    @thamimahlangu3 ай бұрын

    You are doing a brilliant job🎉

  • @bluchill
    @bluchill3 ай бұрын

    Thank you and eleqountetly told tale of these two important men. Thank you for the episode and the look back into history, loved the episode!

  • @sydneyopperman5023
    @sydneyopperman50233 ай бұрын

    Fascinating story ! From someone who was born in 1942.

  • @christinanxumalo6811

    @christinanxumalo6811

    3 ай бұрын

    Who?😂😂😂😂❤

  • @General_LG

    @General_LG

    2 ай бұрын

    who , im confused

  • @user-st6kf5xk3b
    @user-st6kf5xk3b3 ай бұрын

    Well researched and succinctly presented Sizwe. I've become more fond of viewing your programs recently. Keep up the great work!

  • @stivo9730
    @stivo97303 ай бұрын

    Fascinating stuff! I love the detail and the delivery. Best 30 minutes of my day. Thanks for the excellent content!

  • @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @dulciechomey3176

    @dulciechomey3176

    3 ай бұрын

    Dear Sizwe😂 I would like to know what was happening with Chris Hani just before the Cdesa negotiation.

  • @dulciechomey3176

    @dulciechomey3176

    3 ай бұрын

    Chris was very popular and well loved by the man & woman in the street, especially by the youth then.I'm 86 yes and had very high hopes for Chris Hani to be in the first democratic government of this my Beloved country.

  • @dulciechomey3176

    @dulciechomey3176

    3 ай бұрын

    I really love your dedication to factual and unbiased reporting. Brilliant!!!. Carry on.!!

  • @user-hq9bd1ob3w
    @user-hq9bd1ob3w3 ай бұрын

    This was a very educational, informative and well researched presentation. Enkosi Mhlekazi

  • @bhekumusabongathamsanqamkh5742
    @bhekumusabongathamsanqamkh57423 ай бұрын

    What a very informative account of the Greatest ANC leaders.

  • @leratomohlaudi5814
    @leratomohlaudi58143 ай бұрын

    This was a great episode, you have give a lot of context on their rivalry

  • @yobalicious5631
    @yobalicious56313 ай бұрын

    thanks Dr for your narration of this fascinating story of these 2 political figures.....bring us more of these

  • @mamoramokgopa2159
    @mamoramokgopa21593 ай бұрын

    Sizwe told such a good story, this could for a good movie

  • @mbongelenibuthelezi3384
    @mbongelenibuthelezi33843 ай бұрын

    Mind blowing and critical analysis of these two case studies, excellent work.

  • @nickmatyida77
    @nickmatyida772 ай бұрын

    This piece was unexpected. A classic!!!! You dope man...

  • @ntuthukomakhubo6928
    @ntuthukomakhubo69282 ай бұрын

    A great watch Sizwe...please do a historical come up of Cyril and the unadressed issues sounding his links with WMC.

  • @thamimasuku3443
    @thamimasuku34433 ай бұрын

    Great summary and great insights. Please look into the “Black Jack” figure of Ramaphosa in how the two men break up and how his lingering in the backgrounds defines the complex nature of the political tensions of the Mass Democratic Movement and the entrenched political-economic interests of the Capital.

  • @HamandisheMpofu
    @HamandisheMpofu3 ай бұрын

    Ahhh🤜🏿 Dr ! I love it. You narrated this story with so much passion, facts and comics that make it so much more intense, captivating and quite intriguing to keep listening and watching. You're indeed quite amazing at this Sir. Well done Dr.

  • @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @khanyisanimlotshwa3056

    @khanyisanimlotshwa3056

    3 ай бұрын

    I enjoyed it as well 🎉🎉🎉

  • @HamandisheMpofu

    @HamandisheMpofu

    3 ай бұрын

    @@khanyisanimlotshwa3056 amazingly beautiful, for South Africans by the South Africans young blood and vibrant intelligent, fearless minds and scholars alike 👌🏿.

  • @viwenyati3529
    @viwenyati35293 ай бұрын

    In the kitchen preparing lunch listening to such a good analogy of these two giants. They’re towering figures in post apartheid ANC, we all feel a certain way and hold opinions over them both.

  • @1986aurora

    @1986aurora

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes I agree. I enjoy seeing this being discussed. We all have opinions regarding what is being discussed. I enjoy seeing it on a public platform it's important to know facts that hVe and continue to contribute to south africa.

  • @phiwo8998
    @phiwo89983 ай бұрын

    Why does this feel like it was too short ! Was so captured in this story. @Siz, do you think Ramaphosa being chief negotiator and then going on to be a billionaire means he was compromised in our negotiations

  • @molotowamapulana
    @molotowamapulana3 ай бұрын

    Dude this was amazing. Thanks for the insight

  • @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    3 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @gppg1799
    @gppg17993 ай бұрын

    Awesome

  • @sabelomoloi8008
    @sabelomoloi80083 ай бұрын

    Very informative. Thank you! Ayeye😀

  • @user-ip7pd3xm3c
    @user-ip7pd3xm3c3 ай бұрын

    Very interesting, Sizwe can you please get hold of Mr. Terra Lekota to come give us his life story and as a member of ANC and tell us what exactly happened as he said Ramaphosa is or was a SPY for apartheid regime...thank u.

  • @neotrinityrakgajane
    @neotrinityrakgajaneАй бұрын

    This rivalry is a Netflix original. Amazing episode Sizwe.

  • @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @mantombimkhwebane335
    @mantombimkhwebane3353 ай бұрын

    Sizwe, you are a Star, you analysis is characterized by brilliance and thought provoking.

  • @user-er8bg5mz7x
    @user-er8bg5mz7x2 ай бұрын

    Great narrative of the two great leaders of our country. I really enjoyed it. It is objective, factual, and to the point. GREAT 👍.

  • @fredscherf8266
    @fredscherf82663 ай бұрын

    Sizwe u are awesome

  • @skhulumadlala2999
    @skhulumadlala29993 ай бұрын

    Nice one!!! Enjoyed this one😊😊

  • @MrXolaX
    @MrXolaX3 ай бұрын

    If you added pictures and video media to this video it give it visual context it could get 500,000 views easily.

  • @mpho438
    @mpho4382 ай бұрын

    Thank you Dr. For such an analysis. I've never looked at like this before.

  • @TheUsworldwide
    @TheUsworldwide3 ай бұрын

    Bro this was absolutely FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @dudunxumalo3652
    @dudunxumalo36523 ай бұрын

    Thank you...fascinating !

  • @tanalimandla
    @tanalimandlaАй бұрын

    Sizwe bro, what an introduction and great story telling. So much relevance!!

  • @timbosch31
    @timbosch313 ай бұрын

    Really enjoyed this segment. Please keep going with your great, though provoking and insightful work

  • @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks, will do!

  • @minettecoetzee3629
    @minettecoetzee36293 ай бұрын

    Great and interesting analysis of two great men’s intertwined narratives of power, thanks so much Sizwe

  • @cypriannzama4731
    @cypriannzama47313 ай бұрын

    Thanks Sizwe for staying neutral in your analysis of these two giant leaders. The country is now too polarised to visualise positive contributions from these leaders. Keep it up.

  • @johndias1439
    @johndias14393 ай бұрын

    Awesome analysis... perhaps Cyril vs Zuma breakdown will be nice...in your next episode..

  • @1986aurora

    @1986aurora

    2 ай бұрын

    Def with the gloves off u know. A totally honest brutal real analysis on 2 of the biggest names in south africa history. I think ppl who like and dislike them both would enjoy a breakdown.

  • @General_LG

    @General_LG

    2 ай бұрын

    bro, really ? Cyril vs Zuma?

  • @user-nt6ki8rq8k
    @user-nt6ki8rq8k2 ай бұрын

    Thanks, continue what you started.

  • @sibonakalisothamsanqamsane9576
    @sibonakalisothamsanqamsane95762 ай бұрын

    This was absolutely captivating. Kudos!!!

  • @sibonisiwengcobo8116
    @sibonisiwengcobo81163 ай бұрын

    Thank you mntanami well analyzed,educational, well presented 🙏This really opened my mind and got so many answers on the current political wrestling 🙏

  • @bongzsbiya104
    @bongzsbiya1043 ай бұрын

    Thank you. This was short but fascinating!

  • @nolubabalosonti8640
    @nolubabalosonti86403 ай бұрын

    Fascinating, now this has piqued my curiosity for sure.

  • @makhosazanemweli
    @makhosazanemweli3 ай бұрын

    Sizwe, you've an amazing voice ❤❤

  • @lwazimvangeli682
    @lwazimvangeli6822 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much Sizwe for the insight

  • @kgjaqe1169
    @kgjaqe11693 ай бұрын

    Quite an interesting analysis. Thank you kindly!🔥🔥🔥

  • @joeldlamini319
    @joeldlamini3192 ай бұрын

    You have just made an outstanding analysis of the politucal career of the two influential presidents of the Republic. It was indeed informative to follow your video

  • @MrPoliteAgain
    @MrPoliteAgain2 ай бұрын

    This is a type of story you tell around a camp fire, so intriguing. Thank you Sizwe ❤

  • @dumisanizondi4876
    @dumisanizondi48762 ай бұрын

    Thanks for such important history lesson. I recommend that you do more of such.

  • @manyananihlwatika726
    @manyananihlwatika7263 ай бұрын

    I can't wait for this episode... Wise men and women always say he who left the union building at first was our own goal... Look at our country now ..

  • @rubylane9867
    @rubylane98672 ай бұрын

    Great job Sizwe as always. Thank you

  • @MrTobyjansen
    @MrTobyjansen3 ай бұрын

    Love this new bend. I listened from start to finish.Yes, this is going to be a good sport.

  • @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    3 ай бұрын

    🙌🏽

  • @thembelihlehlatshwayo2761
    @thembelihlehlatshwayo27612 ай бұрын

    🎉🎉🎉Well done Sizwe. Unbiased reporting from a well researched information

  • @user-yu9hj5cx8t
    @user-yu9hj5cx8t2 ай бұрын

    Love the historical deep dives!

  • @orapelengmaponyane7684
    @orapelengmaponyane76842 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the great video - very fantastic story telling ! I have been fascinated by the Zuma Mbeki dynamic and even after watching the video I have a hunger for more

  • @KazieD
    @KazieD3 ай бұрын

    We Lost a leader in Zizi 😢 we are still weeping as a nation and I dont think we will ever recover. The ANC lost the WC the day they removed Mbeki and have been struggling ever since.

  • @sicelosimelane3844
    @sicelosimelane38443 ай бұрын

    Nkunzi that was a great topic and excellent analysis. Mananjalo Nkunzi❤

  • @lettuceandtomatoes4065
    @lettuceandtomatoes40653 ай бұрын

    Hey Siz, your audio game is now up there, the content has always been on point.....Thank you for the content

  • @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    @Sizwe.MpofuWalsh

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks. We will continue to get better and better. 🙌🏽

  • @lettuceandtomatoes4065

    @lettuceandtomatoes4065

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Sizwe.MpofuWalshI see that you getting better and better, been a follower since the Whatsapp days in 2019/2020 and I don't regret it. Quick one: I seem to remember that there was a Mbeki vs Hani for DP standoff or is my memory failing me or very possibly I`m being delusional? PS. THIS WAS AN EXCEPTIONAL EPISODE

  • @luzukombuqu4976
    @luzukombuqu49763 ай бұрын

    President Mbeki was the best this country ever had. Everything we have as a country and how to run government was mostly because of him.

  • @MikionMashigo-cf9jf
    @MikionMashigo-cf9jf2 ай бұрын

    This is a great historical story Sizwe , I really acquired some important knowledge. Keep up the good work

  • @TristonFrancis-lo7gh
    @TristonFrancis-lo7gh2 ай бұрын

    Excellent break down, extremely interesting show. Keep it up!!

  • @siphiwerammusi7268
    @siphiwerammusi72683 ай бұрын

    Very informative historical background. Much appreciated!

  • @leslienaidoo1652
    @leslienaidoo16522 ай бұрын

    Well presented historical info.

  • @user-cn6pq5lq2m
    @user-cn6pq5lq2m2 ай бұрын

    Thank you Sizwe❤

  • @Chantelleweich
    @Chantelleweich3 ай бұрын

    Nicely done Sizwe!

  • @zebulonbvuma6035
    @zebulonbvuma60352 ай бұрын

    Nicely articulated as always👏

  • @johnmokele8719
    @johnmokele8719Ай бұрын

    Wow! Very educational and informative. Thought provoking

  • @amosmtombeni7373
    @amosmtombeni73733 ай бұрын

    Thanke for an interesting information BRAVO!!!

  • @lindosibanda4436
    @lindosibanda44363 ай бұрын

    simply brilliant.....you are one of a kind. May the good Lord bless and keep you

  • @user-pi5sx8jx1m
    @user-pi5sx8jx1m2 ай бұрын

    Excellent research, education and coverage, history being written by Sizwe Mpofu. Political Enlightenment to the younger and future generation, love it.

  • @shaistamohammed625
    @shaistamohammed6253 ай бұрын

    Please can Mabeki campaign for president it will be appreciated ❤❤❤❤

  • @AnneliedeWet
    @AnneliedeWet2 ай бұрын

    Excellent, thank you.

  • @yonelapeter7332
    @yonelapeter73322 ай бұрын

    Beautiful analysis and comparison, I learnt a lot. Thank you bro

  • @leonardojordyn4864
    @leonardojordyn48643 ай бұрын

    South African politics like to underestimate president Zuma incredible history of freedom fighting sacrifice