People may not like Vince or nitpick over some tiny details, but I don’t see how anyone can argue over the cliffhanger point. He is absolutely right and it is amazing that a team of well paid writers can’t come up with them.

@kylefields3951

8 ай бұрын

Do you have a time stamp for this?

@AshleyX-iy5qt

8 ай бұрын

What did you not understand about Beaver cleavage?

@jamesmiller5331

8 ай бұрын

Vince Russo had a 2-year run where he was flanked by some of the best talent and management ever that were above and beyond motivated to win a wrestling ratings War on TV and Russo has milked that and milked it and milked it and milked it and milked it and the dude is still milking it . Every time he says 'I'm not looking for a job' he's totally looking for a job. White whitney? He hasn't done anything else of note with his life besides milk a 2-year run that he had in the 90s with podcasts and getting writing jobs at second-rate wrestling companies. The idea that there is anything set the company can do to get the TV ratings that they had in the Attitude Era is LAUGHABLE so I don't know why he keeps bringing it up. McMahon just sold for like 4 billion dollars. I think they'll be okay.

@AaronLesterMedia

8 ай бұрын

They don't like Mr Russo because you had people like Cornette, Flair and others toss shots at him. You know how the Cult followers are. Like I tell people all the time if he was so bad McMahon wouldn't have brought him back 20 years ago. It was crybabies like Stephanie who wanted him gone because she wanted that spot all to herself and her minions.

@ChampHere

8 ай бұрын

Vince Russo is right tho!!

I used to be a Vince Russo hater, but after sitting down and listening to the man speak, he's earned my respect. Once you make it past the "bros" and what not, his takes are actually intelligent and accurate.

@manfredvonrichthofen4167

8 ай бұрын

No he isn't and when he does make sense, it's probably someone else's brain he picked

@VavityVisionary

8 ай бұрын

@@manfredvonrichthofen4167 You are a friggin' moron! Russo rescued this piss-poor industry from irrelevance in the late '90s. Stop pretending to be an intelligent, insightful person because in truth you are just a glorified mark.

@dex4463

8 ай бұрын

I like Russo but he wasn't a good booker and he helped run WCW into the ground. He could never be the lead guy, he only worked as one man on a team.

@elliottspence

8 ай бұрын

@@manfredvonrichthofen4167 You have an inherent dislike for the image of a person someone else has created. Get past that and move on.

@vajp3282

8 ай бұрын

he can still provide value to any wrestling organization. only reason he does not have a job now is how big of a prick he was

He’s NOT Lying!!!

The problem is Vince McMahon totally mailed it in after he beat WCW and his creative ideas were far less inspired ever since then as he got older. All his best creative ideas were done in the 80s and 90s and early 2000s. By the mid 2000s he's been mailing it in so who cares if he doesnt have power anymore

@nu-metalfan2654

8 ай бұрын

@Chaz4543. I slightly disagree, I think the mid 2000’s was a good time as well. The rise of Cena, Orton and Batista, Rated R Edge, the fantastic stalker story between Mickie James and Trish, the OG SmackDown vs Raw story of 2005, and Taker and Shawn Michaels cementing their legacies. So the mid 2000’s was a good time, it’s when we get to 2009 when we start to see decline in the product when WWE becomes PG to attract to different sponsors and charity partnerships. By 2009 Vince starts to not give a shit, he starts to put World Titles on mid card talents as a see if it gets them over and it doesn’t because it’s the guy that makes the title not the other way around. Vince starts to not care about the future as he can’t build anymore stars and just wastes everyone, so he has to bring back older names to pop a rating. I hate this narrative that Vince gave up immediately after WCW closed and he bought it, he didn’t. It was still a good product for almost the rest of the 00’s, by the time we get to 2009, Vince had then on lost it and just couldn’t give a shit anymore.

@taylorsmith9629

8 ай бұрын

Because washed up Vince is still putting guys with talent and charisma over boring trash like Gargano and Balor.

@jurisfootrag

8 ай бұрын

Yup. No competition, no effort.

@williammunny1844

8 ай бұрын

Well said, he definitely has been phoning it in. Shooting for par rather than birdies & eagles. Like Don Johnson in Tin Cup lol.

@robkearsy2995

8 ай бұрын

That & there was no competition which hurt WWE in the long run.

He’s right. He literally nailed it

Russo is on point here. Vince probably saw the ratings dropping for Raw and panicked. In response he decided to sell WWE for 9 billion. Vince probably decided now was the time to get out of running the WWE. There will never be another Attitude era. It was lightning in a bottle. WWE will never reach those heights ever again.

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

Plus all the talent from the attitude era are now ageing out. Taker; D-X; Kane; soon to be too old for those Saudi main events. They've failed to create new legends.

Everything He Saying It’s Facts 💯💯

I’ve always been a Russo guy, despite the haters. If you ask the fans today, why do you hate Vince Russo, they won’t have a clue. Big up Vince Russo. I’ve been a brand member from day one.

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

So true! If you ask them *why* they don't like him there's never any reason. They're just repeating Corny/Meltzer.. But the actual wrestlers/legends all have positive things to say about Russo.

@stiker0068

5 ай бұрын

Agreed. I think a lot of folks just listen to others in the business that shoot on Vince

I've said the same. The one and done title matches, the short feuds that lead to nothing. Not capitalizing off of wrestlers who are over. No chasing or adversity for wrestlers, has made watching the product very hard. Good message👍🏿

This message should be for all promoters

17:55 People will say "Ugh, I hate cliffhangers." but 9/10 people who say that will keep watching. The cliffhanger is another form of heat.

Great point about cliffhangers, it really did make the shows more exciting. I didn't even want to miss Sunday Night Heat back then

Incredible indepth video russo

Casual fans are irrelevant !!!!! people who don’t like wrestling don’t watch it plain and simple no matter who’s on they will not watch plain and simple. Yes ten million did watch 25 years ago when they had the wars going on those days are long gone Vince you are so stuck in the past it’s insane he constantly brings up those times they WILL NEVER COME BACK

@codesm96

7 ай бұрын

That means wrestling is irrelevant and is the reason why AEW will never be profitable (only catered to marks). WWE only profitable because it's a show that appeals to either children or hardcore wrestling marks that are still somehow making money with all their sponsorships but their ratings are getting dangerously low that they may lose TV deals in the next few years if it drops below one million for Raw and Smackdown. The business needs to appeal to more than just hardcore wrestling marks since they would be happy to watch an empty ring and still tune in. Once WWE loses it's relevancy and fails to get people to watch outside of the very small IWC, it's game over. WWE are not even trying. If they did try to become more entertaining and have meaningful and memorable storylines, the wrestling industry can be saved so that other companies can thrive because/

I miss the TV-14 era of WWF/E, the Attitude and Ruthless Aggression eras...Also, the wrestlers need to be bigger dudes, everyone is an average looking joe.

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

I remember when wrestlers looked like guys who could beat you up if they really wanted to. Nowadays they look as intimidating' as the guy next door.

@albalog2449

8 ай бұрын

@@nellsun2521 Kevin Owens in particular looks like a guy I know at a retro game & comic shop behind the cash register. I just want to ask Kevin Owens, "hey, do you have any "Curse of the Spawn" comics and a working Dreamcast in the back?" Hehe.

@alanchamberlain9902

8 ай бұрын

@@nellsun2521 The women look more intimidating than the men tbh, the likes of Raquel, Rhea, Charlotte, Nia and Jade Cargill all look like they could punch the head off a lot of dudes especially the tiny guys in AEW.

@brianh6251

8 ай бұрын

That's true it would be nice if they were bigger and larger than life like back in the day.. but unfortunately a big reason they were like that was steroid abuse was much more rampant back then

@terrygray7465

8 ай бұрын

I say this every time I see a comment like this. TV was different back then. WWF/E was a private company - which is key. Once they went public, they were held to a different standard. They were now beholden to share holders and began to make major manufacturing deals for kids toys. Once all of that happened, the attitude and ruthless aggression stories had to go. You can’t piss off investors. You can’t make them nervous with “questionable” storylines. That’s why those eras are gone and won’t be coming back. They simply couldn’t play with other people’s money. At the end of the day, it’s business and shareholders don’t want their money f**ked with.

hhh bring back vince russo to be part of creative team

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

Sounds good in theory but you know the politics and suits would never let him be the head writer again so it wouldn't work.

The issue with Hunter is he wants to see in ring wrestling just like the marks do. Hunter wants to continue pushing longer matches on Raw and SmackDown, and the marks are rejoicing over that, thinking Hunter is the saviour. The issue here is that the weekly shows are not supposed to be about the matches, because that’s what the PPV is for. The weekly shows are supposed to be for drama buildup moments and segments that lead to the PPV, with a few 7 minute mid card matches in between those drama buildup segments. The weekly shows are for the drama and buildup segments, the PPV’s are for the matches. But Hunter and the marks just wants to see matches.

@ethanhunt3242

8 ай бұрын

WWE has at least seven hours of TV to fill a week. There’s plenty of time to build storylines and drama and give fans a good match or two to sink their teeth into and you owe it to the live audience to deliver something that resembles wrestling at the wrestling show they paid to get into. It doesnt need to be all or nothing.

@BadAssMacmillan

8 ай бұрын

@@ethanhunt3242 That’s another big problem with wwe, there’re too much wrestling per week. The casual fans (and even a lot of hardcore fans) get burnt out. And the new fans who want to get into wrestling will be lost and don’t know where to start. The casual fans are the ones who make wrestling mainstream, if they stop watching the product will lose viewers and will be less popular.

@kchapo_4202

8 ай бұрын

lol drama is for marks. Fake wrestling is for marks

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

The matches have become meaningless. They seem endlessly long. No story. No characters. (Just pretty neon lights and loads of $$s spent on a boring ass show.)

@nu-metalfan2654

8 ай бұрын

@@ethanhunt3242 Well Raw needs to be put back to 2 hours. I don’t really count NXT, or Main Event or Level Up. It’s just Raw and SmackDown. The problem though is they are not building captivating stories, they clearly care more about the matches than characters and stories.

It's a shame HHH and Stephanie couldn't get out of their own way back in 2002 and let you do the creative. I might have tuned back in again. (Every time I switch on WWE over the last 20 years it's been like watching paint dry, bro.)

@leosnyder5264

8 ай бұрын

Hell no dude he can't do shit

I may not always agree with Russo…but this was good. Well spoken and put together.

@scrappy93

8 ай бұрын

It actually not well put together.

@VavityVisionary

8 ай бұрын

@@scrappy93 Kinda like your grammatically subpar comment 😂

@codesm96

7 ай бұрын

@@scrappy93 You sound like a bitter hater who is miserable with their own life. You say it's bad but don't tell us why at all. You're the worst kind of person on this planet.

🔥 Vince Russo spitting facts!!!

Good message. I grew up during the Monday Night Wars and watched everything. I kept watching for many years past that while it was getting more and more boring, but still watched. I started to watch online streams with chat rooms so interacting with people while watching at least made it a little more entertaining. But sometime in the past few years I finally stopped watching. It doesn't even feel like I made a conscious decision to stop, it just happened. I was one of those people who kept watching out of habit and nostalgia even if I was critical of the product, but finally I got to the point where a Monday could go by and I never bothered to tune in. At that point I would still check in for major PPVs, but I don't really care about that anymore either. But there are also places online where people will stream older wrestling content, and I can still watch stuff from the 90s and be fully entertained, even if it's something I've seen a dozen times. So that proves that I haven't just lost interest in general. I was hopeful when AEW started, because we had been more of a WCW household and it was good to have competition again, but as things turned out I have even less interest in AEW than WWE. I think many other things are wrong as well, the production is too spotless now, the sets and stages are just massive HD screens, all the personality is gone.

@nellsun2521

7 ай бұрын

Indeed. There's a reason why the wrestling KZread creators are still "reliving the Monday night wars" even now. (Whilst claiming to hate it/Russo.) Everything points back to the attitude era whether the marks like to admit it or not.

@Speedyreedy1218

4 ай бұрын

Love rewatching old content on KZread with fans I couldn't communicate with as a kid, now, than watching anything they've put out the last 15+ years.

Vince the main reason they hated you was because you took what they think is a sport into what they hate: a TV show. As long as WWE tries to convince people that this shit is real they'll never go anywhere. The key is that WWE comes to grips with who they truly are and that is trash tv. There's a reason why reality shows like Love and Hip Hop still get viewership or shows like South Park is STILL GOING. It's because they know who they are and they aren't trying to convince people otherwise. Russo you had it right when you said WWE needs to be reality based and as a TV watcher and movie buff that sparked a bunch of ideas that I have but don't know who to share it with. That's what WWE should be a reality based wrestling that parodies current society while showing sex, love, horror etc and simulated violent combat. Maybe that'll get some of the casuals back

@cHriiSzbEe

8 ай бұрын

90 Day Fiancé pulls more ratings than Raw

@RomanianAlphaDaddy

8 ай бұрын

If there's one thing I can relate to it's fighting some guy for an inanimate object (or someone's mom) hanging from a pole. But fr yeah...guy sounds right. I don't watch fake fighting for the fake fighting as much as I watch it to see why they're fake fighting.

@patient_6925

8 ай бұрын

Wwe has never tried to be real

@VavityVisionary

8 ай бұрын

@@First_Line_Center That so-called "Hot Shotting" pulled in the biggest ratings in the history of the business. Stop pretending to know what you're typing about 😂

@KingGamer321

8 ай бұрын

What do you mean by real? The action or the script? Its definetly scripted. But its more real than you think. Even tyson fury just said its harder than boxing. Kurt angle said it. Ken shamrock said it. Many more. The physicality, athleticism, the conditioning and pace, the bumps and slams, the accidents, constant work, constant traveling, away from family etc…

The reason WWE still makes big money is because of the glory days of the attitude era. Look at who Saudi Arabia wants in their live events -- D-X, Taker, Kane, etc. Even though they're way too old, the Saudis pay big bucks cause of the era Russo/Ferrara wrote for them.

@albalog2449

8 ай бұрын

It's what I've long called the "nostalgia cookie jar" and one day, all the cookies are going to be too old past the expiration date.

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

@@albalog2449 Yep, it's not sustainable. (Can you imagine if in '97 the Saudis were demanding wrestlers from '72 in their main event?! It's same time difference, 25 years.)

@albalog2449

8 ай бұрын

@@nellsun2521 Hehe, yep, I see it exactly the same way :)

@sawtooth808

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@albalog2449 The cookies _Now_ are stale to a point where they are as hard as stones

Russo is missing one huge reason for the storylines WWE does. He's right they ain't doing it for the fans. They are doing to for the SPONSORS. For WWE to grow they had to ditch the TV-14 for the PG era to grow new fans, but more importantly fans Vince could mold to like his washed down product. And he knew it would work. Because at worse the hardcore fans wouldn't leave. It's all about sponsorship and merchandise

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

They could still make the weekly show entertaining though if they used logic. There's plenty of weekly TV shows and sports that draw millions upon millions. (Breaking Bad; Game of Thrones; the football! etc)

@mauisean007

8 ай бұрын

I agree 100%, I just think WWE just does not care like Russo is pointing out. But I see why they do what they do. Just sucks us fans have to suffer for the lack of creativity. @@nellsun2521

Hope hhh watches this. Especially the part with the cliff hangers. I remember the high i felt when raw ended, couldnt wait for the next week. I was actually pissed the show ended. The characters and stories too.. russo should get one more run!

@MrSkittlez313

8 ай бұрын

Why would HHH waste his time watching this. The shows are good. Peacock ratings are high. WWE content is streamed. I never watched raw on USA. I watch it on Hulu

@richardsmith9615

8 ай бұрын

@@MrSkittlez313 The ratings are better than the opposition, that's it. TNA was getting higher ratings than Smackdown gets now.

@manbearpig7359

8 ай бұрын

I double Russo is even a minor blip on the very edges of Hunters radar. If you said the name Vince Russo to HHH he would be like "yeah I remember him from the attitude ere. Had some great ideas and helped win the war with WcW....no idea what he is doing now though "

@terranceburrs5832

8 ай бұрын

@@MrSkittlez313 the shows are good? You are very delusional.

@KingGamer321

8 ай бұрын

@@manbearpig7359 thats the problem. He doesnt learn from the attitude era. Hes too busy dealing with 100 writers who cant make wrestling what it once was.

Thank You Vince Russo for speaking the truth about Triple H people claiming WWE is in this so-called boom era people claimed Triple H is saving WWE yet he's making the product worse than Vince McMahon Triple H somehow books shows way worse than is ever been and the ratings have kept going down and keep on losing

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

Triple H is just another mark at the end of the day. (VKM wasn't a mark, he was a businessman.)

@johnbeal6114

8 ай бұрын

@@nellsun2521 exactly that's what I've been trying to tell everybody Triple H is just big of a Mark that Tony lKhan I vst get what everyone's saying Triple h is saving WWE in reality the ratings has been down the stock market has been down I don't see how WWE is doing so well knowing that that business I have been really bad and the television side has been garbage Triple H hasn't done nothing to impact Wrestling or WWE

@WizKiddAnt91

8 ай бұрын

Worse than Vince ? Yeah I don’t know how you state that. There was no consistency in any story with Vince

@johnbeal6114

8 ай бұрын

@@WizKiddAnt91 how much is Triple H doesn't know how to build stars

@johnbeal6114

8 ай бұрын

@@WizKiddAnt91 it really doesn't matter most of the shows has been boring at people claim WWE is how the right now because of Triple H so called good booking and yet the ratings has suffered from from Triple H

I totally agree about the commercial breaks. The matches way slow down, the crowd disengages, its so obvious. Been a hardcore watcher since 95. I find I just cannot anymore.

Even Corny would have to agree with Russo on this.

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

Nah, Corny hates episodic well-formatted TV. He just likes good ol' fashioned wrasslin'.

@chm9935

8 ай бұрын

Corny very critical of all of pro wrestling

This video alone is more exciting than 3 hrs of Wrestling lolo😆

@mattleee

2 ай бұрын

Russo is more entertaining than the entire WWE staff and rosta

Hey vince, when I was a kid I used to watch wrestling with my grandma, attitude era. I am Italian and my grandma couldn't speak English or remember the names of the guys. But she had nicknames for each character and so we could talk about the storylines. That tells all about the character work you guys did at the time

As usual, dude makes sense despite his naysayers. I used to catch all the wrestling I could growing up and it peaked around 2005. Off and on in between until Punk showed up in their ecw version. Started back off and on and I'd say the last 5 years I've become more a casual. It just hasn't been as good as I remember. Seems like all they care about now is how great the choreography is and it looks so rehearsed these days. Hard to get into. If I want choreography, I'll watch some martial arts flicks🤷🏾‍♂️

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

I'd say it peaked in '99, personally. Once Vince/Ed stopped writing Raw the WWE lost its edge within a few months.

As a 30 year lover of wwe. I hate the product now, It’s boring unless a legend returns. I keep watching in hopes of a come back to the quality of the product.

Vince : I answer to no one Mrs Russo walks in...

He's not wrong - bro.... 😊

He ain’t wrong. No storytelling. All periods and no cliffhangers. I remember the days where I couldn’t wait for the following week, now I can’t make it through a commercial break.

I agree with you I’m a wrestling fan since 1984 this is a sad time as a true fan I’ve got to where I only watch highlights

That music at the beginning of your videos would have made for a killer entrance theme song

@JoeRodBx

8 ай бұрын

That’s his WCW Theme song

PREACH 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

Which is why people were too harsh on Matt Jones in the first episode of Wrestlers when he said "We need to appeal to more than wrestling dorks." He was correct he just worded it in a bad way. Wrestlers is the only wrestling related show I've cared about this year. Glad to see Al get a massive platform like Netflix to grow the OVW audience. As far as the likes of WWE and AEW go? If they don't care about what the casual audience wants then fine, fair enough. I moved on. Plenty of other interests. Was nice to see Wrestlers provide a compelling show.

@nellsun2521

7 ай бұрын

Would be great if a high budget wresting company came along that actually cared about making compelling television, with the Russo/casual-fan philosophy. To provide legit competition to WWE/AEW, .

Heck yeah! Best video ever from Russo. A straightforward and simple message to HHH/WWE (and the rest of wrestling world). More of these videos please 🙏🏻

We can't go back to what it once was, all the Karens, Kens, and cry babies will get their feelings hurt and complain about every little thing soooo they can't do it

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

They still could if they had some balls.

@drsurtur3240

8 ай бұрын

​@@nellsun2521yeah but then you lose all sponsorship money because now no-one wants to confront woke people

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

@@drsurtur3240 They'd gain the support of the fans though and the ordinary people if they did, which would translate into ticket sales -- the way WWF used to make money when it was good.

8 ай бұрын

@@nellsun2521 that's pocket change compared to what they get from tv deals, no sane company owner would throw that away

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

@ Well then they've sold out haven't they. They're now an ideological company rather than an entertainment company.

HIRE RUSSO PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@zeldabombsquad1144

8 ай бұрын

I agree, hire this man..........on a different planet

Triple H needs to see this video!

Thank you Mr. Russo for your contribution to the business. You speak the truth. I think the problem with the WWE now is the booking. They now have had the most boring champion in history for the last few years.

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

The WWE is now sanitised to the point it's lost all personality and realism. It's like a corporate board meeting. (Vince Russo's Raw 97-99 was the best ever.)

@dxtremecaliber

8 ай бұрын

@@nellsun2521OP is wrong tho Roman is not boring WWE would not let him just any matches cuz hes the attraction of the company plus his reign is gonna be over hes the best champion by far in years the booking is decent too stop capping OP

I’m one of diehard casual fans, and that’s only because I was a diehard Attitude Era kid. I let go of Peacock awhile ago. WWE are lucky if they get views from me on KZread.

If this doesn't prove Vince Russo knows what he's talking about, then nothing will. He's absolutely correct. It's not even opinion; he's just 100% correct. I can't imagine anyone arguing against these points he's making.

@dallasparty316

8 ай бұрын

Russo was a trash writer.

@datemasamune2904

8 ай бұрын

Problem with Russo is he's a shotgun writer. He can have a few good ideas that would raise the bar a bit, but they're not enough to overcome the rest od his horrible writing.

@pelicanspalacex8861

8 ай бұрын

@@datemasamune2904who has been better in wrestling history as a writer than Russo? No one. I’ve never heard anyone answer this. He had the most success and was at the helm during the best era.

@datemasamune2904

8 ай бұрын

@@pelicanspalacex8861 The problem is he doesn’t exactly know how to properly book those said ideas. You can have as many amazing ideas on paper, but all would be worthless if you can’t write them properly.

@thehoukster

8 ай бұрын

First of all, I didn't say anything about his writing. I said he knows what he's talking about. Secondly, the guy was the head writer for shows that grew into the highest ratings in the history of pro wrestling. It really doesn't matter what your opinion is. It doesn't change the above. What I will ask you is: Do you disagree with what he says in this video? I really can't imagine arguing against what he is saying unless you are incapable of saying something positive about the man.

People dont sit down for 2-4 hrs anymore when they can watch the clips on KZread

@mattleee

2 ай бұрын

Or the show is too boring to watch in full... People still watch full length shows when they are worth watching 😂😂

wwe is too kid friendly

@nellsun2521

7 ай бұрын

Yet the kids hate it and stream all the old stuff!

This was surprisingly good. Like, if WWE just implemented the tv-format he is describing it would be a huge improvement.

People do not have the balls to turn the channel. They moan and complain but do nothing about it.

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

That might actually work -- if everyone switched it off in protest so they had 0 viewers they'd be forced to improve the show.

@mattleee

2 ай бұрын

I've been staying this for years. The marks who will watch garbage have created this situation

I think it really went down Hill when it went from WWF to WWE

Dude….for a guy who says he “hates” wrestling and wants nothing to do with it, you sure talk alot about it…..

@mattleee

2 ай бұрын

That's how he earns his living 🤡😂

@javier77th

2 ай бұрын

@@mattleee So I guess you will do something you hate, just for a buck as well, I presume. So who's the clown. LMFAOO

People hate on Russo, but I’ve always liked him. He’s spot on about this. I don’t know why they would change the formula. Wrestle is God awful now.

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

Only the marks hate on him. The wrestlers never have a bad word to say about him.

I follow the WWE Games subreddit and each week they have a thread for what stories people are doing in their Universe modes. It’s amazing what some regular people come up with that is more interesting than any of the shows or any promotion is doing.

Cliffhangers were always my favourite part in wrestling. A reason to need to see that next show. I would love them to return

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

It was always the bit when me and my friends looked at each other like WTF?! and couldn't wait for next week.

@SCWTheWrestlingChannel

8 ай бұрын

@@nellsun2521 exactly. I miss those times.

I can't remember the last time I watched a full episode of WWE or AEW. I just watch clips of the stuff I care about on youtube and its hardly ever for the matches. Its for the story and the characters.

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

Same. It' all about the promos and the match-endings of good storylines for me.

Preach. The product could be much better.

Lost these people to MMA UFC. Under 12s look at wrestling. If I was 11-12 I’d be watching Ufc

@Chaz4543

8 ай бұрын

WWE is a weekly tv product. UFC is pay per view product. Its not the same thing. They both have pay per views but WWE is a weekly televison product and UFC isnt.

@kchapo_4202

8 ай бұрын

UFC has fight nights. In between ppv once a month

@rawculture2007

8 ай бұрын

And when was the big shift? I'd argue the McGregor Era. Where he brought the mcmahon strut into the octagon

Very thought provoking. The only issue I see with what VR said is that this isnt 1995-2000 anymore. Back then we didnt have cell phones, instant gratification with entertainment and. Our attention spans were longer to the extent we could sit in front of the TV for several hours and be engaged in a TV program. Today, especially with younger generation, if its not interactive, mobile nor involves some degree of social media, I don't see it working.

@goodday2760

8 ай бұрын

There were a million options for entertainment in the stone age... there were a million options for entertainment in the iron age... there were a million options for entertainment in the bronze age... there were a million options for entertainment in the modern age... and there are now, perhaps, a million options for entertainment in the second stone age where people like you exist.

@adm712

8 ай бұрын

@@goodday2760 And there are a million entertainment options in the jerk off age where you exist.

@mattleee

2 ай бұрын

People still watch full length sport and TV shows, just not WWE because it's terrible

Those Marks need you but because they are such big marks for themselves they don't want good ratings and team work

Wow! What a great speech by Russo!

In case Vince ever reads these comments, wanted to add I'm in my late 30s and been watching wrestling since I was 5. Started with early 90s WWF, became a huge WCW fan in the 90s, watched TNA till early 2010s, and almost never miss an AEW show since they started in 2019. I was watching almost every RAW and Smackdown from the time WCW got bought out, until this year. I now only watch WWE PPVs because I got so tired of so many bad or mediocre RAWs and Smackdowns, Bray Wyatt was my favorite wrestler there, I don't care about most of their roster, they overpush the women's division, though I like Ripley, they haven't brought in enough younger, good talent to hold my interest, and have done too many of the same matchups to death and their product has been stale for at least half a decade. Also they don't hardly gear themselves to older fans with any mature themes/storylines/sexual content as they did in the Attitude era. The violence is very tame, I can see blood on AEW TV every week. I feel like they're marketing to kids, young teens, and young girls, not me. I don't feel I'm missing anything of value by watching PPVS only. If they finally ran me off after I stood by them consistently since 2001 when Nitro went away, they're in big trouble, at least viewership-wise. Maybe they only care about winning over 10 year olds and little girls now. I had high hopes for when HHH took over from Vince but after some early improvements the product quickly stagnated and plateaued again.

lol I see the title and it’s like I have no choice but to see what this guy is going on about now, regardless of how many bros I know I’m about to hear.

He totally doesn’t want a job in the wrestling business.

@nellsun2521

7 ай бұрын

He's got one. Owns his own podcasting network bro.

Loved all the promos Russo wrote for HHH; Goldust; etc. 1996 was truly the recovery period when Russo started writing the promos.

He makes sense

I watch SmackDown & that's pretty much it. I keep an eye on AEW & sometimes other stuff. But barely watch it. Being a casual is a lot more relaxing, I don't take any of it seriously. It's just something fun to watch on the side. I have other hobbies.

If I’m Tony Khan I’m hiring Russo. I’m bringing him in to help me with all the things I might not know in depth or whatever other things might help the company grow. He’s got a wealth of knowledge that could only help but we know that’ll never happen because Tony’s stuck in his weak little but hurt feelings, he thinks he knows it all, and now we see it’s only hurting his company which absolutely sucks because I love AEW. I want them to succeed and thrive. Everyone wins when competitive companies thrive outside WWE, and more importantly it’s what’s best for the wrestlers. It gives them power, and leverage, and negotiating power when making money and signing contracts. So the only people that lose when companies fail are us the fans and especially the wrestlers. Tony needs to Put aside his playground feelings and bring some people in that can really help him which I thought he already had a bunch of, but apparently not.

20:55 Exactly! Cody,AJ,Seth,Butch,Cole,Kenny,Oasprey,Young Bucks, Gargano, CIamoa, FTR, Cage,Cassidy,PageDB,Buddy,Y2J technically all have the same character...

@leosnyder5264

8 ай бұрын

Wtf no there not lay off the cark

HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD! I am someone who watched wrestling from a kid all the way until adulthood, and I just couldn’t watch this current style of WWE.

This is good stuff here💪🏾

Talking like real people is a big one for me. Just let them be themselves. They know what they're doing. It's crindgy to watch, especially when you're trying to introducing wrestling to non-wrestling fans

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

Especially those backstage segments where the wrestlers bump into each other and have a 'spontaneous' argument, in a brightly-lit TV studio...

Bro listen Vince Russo wouldn’t listen too 90’s or early ‘00 ….. Vince has definitely grown up a whole lot big time !!!!!!!!!!!! 🤷🏾🤣🤔👍🏾〽️💯

I subbed

Spot on. They need Russo in control of creative. Or someone with the exact same mind set. If not the whole business is heading to a dead end.

@leosnyder5264

8 ай бұрын

O they don't go e makes bad movea

Spitting nothing but facts 💯 well said Vince

Two words: KZread. I was a huge wrestling fan as an Attitude era baby. Now as a causal that started watching again in 2019 at the earliest, I get my fill watching 3 hours of RAW on TV. KZread in 2023 is one of the most convenient means for a self licensed entertainment network. Whether the content is good or not, the E found a way to bulletpoint important story plots so casuals can catch up. The tag title finished was spoiled for me via the clip showing up on my recommendations, but I still watched it anyway. Thanks to KZread, I know who Tiffany Straton and Ilja Dragonuv (sp) is even tho I don't watch NXT. I still pay for Peacock, and I wouldn't mind going to a live show if the experience is worth it. Those 10 million ppl didn't disappear, they're on KZread enjoying what's there.

@onemanarmy2electricboogalo687

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂 those youtube clips only get about 60k to 200k what arr you fuckin talkin about dude

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

KZread streaming views are taken into account for today's ratings. So are Amazon streams; etc. (So it's not an excuse.)

@albalog2449

8 ай бұрын

​@@onemanarmy2electricboogalo687 Most of those viewers are likely from India, Africa, places like that. The world has 8 billion people and 200k for being *_worldwide_* (like WWE is worldwide) on KZread is bad. I've seen Alice In Chains and Nine Inch Nails stuff get more views, and those are like 4 man bands (all once "underground" in the 90s) that happened to be on par with a multi-billion dollar company with hundreds of employees.

@TheSwordofTruth412

8 ай бұрын

KZread was one word

Raw helps when im having trouble sleeping

The sour grapes from Vince is so obvious. Talking about the WWE sliding in the ratings as they make billions of dollars through the Endeavor deal and soon to be billions more in new tv deals. This man still talks about ratings like its 1998 lol. The WWE doesn't need your help dude. They're doing just fine and making a ton of money.

@fmthebaron

8 ай бұрын

Yeah Vince is indeed making Billions from all sorts of different approaches whether it's tv deals with FOX and USA, merging with the UFC/Endeavor, or thru performing in Saudi Arabia/England etc.

@josephchirichella761

8 ай бұрын

@@fmthebaron He's talking about an antiquated system. Ratings arent the end all be all like they used to be. Advertisers care about demos and Smackdown, Raw and NXT bring in over 150+ million viewers annually on tv. That doesnt include DVR, Hulu, KZread, etc. WWE is doing just fine.

Triple H books for the marks, since he is one himself. Just look at what he's putting out with Raw & Smackdown. When he ran NXT, it was all about the workrate matches, no stories & vanilla midgets like Gargano. And it hasn't led to a rise in ratings. The IWC believes that there's a new boom period. It's the complete opposite. And that goes for the other wrestling companies too.

Im starting to like Russo now

@nellsun2521

8 ай бұрын

You must be getting past that Prichard/Corny kool aid phase. At first I thought I didn't like him too, until I realised the truth.

@mattleee

2 ай бұрын

Corny & Prichard are haters

I cut the cord years ago, not paying for a streaming services not paying to watch pro wrestling or anything else for that matter it's a scam

my dream booking would be this; CM Punk comes back at the beginning of Survivor Series and somehow gets the MITB Briefcase from Priest and the Judgement Day (maybe he joins them and they submit it to Punk?). Cashes in against Rollins and wins the World Heavyweight Championship. The next night on Raw they start with a limo door opening and its Vince Russo back to take over GM of Raw at Mr McMahons request/decision

A lot of what he says makes sense. One big thing he is not mentioning is today Raw is 3 hours and Smackdown is 2 hours, both live every week. When Russo was writing Raw went to 2 hours in March 1997, but was only live ever other week until some time in 1999. That is a big difference. Also by the time Smackdown began in late summer/fall 1999 Russo was gone and on his way to WCW. So for most of his tenure he could write and tape 2 weeks at a time for one show, and for one hour less each time.

@montauk6

8 ай бұрын

Another thing he's not mentioning when he's dismissive of streaming services--see what he did when he declared that Raw's numbers between last year and this while streaming remained the same? The real question is when 10 mil were watching in the 90s, how many were watching streaming services? Right, because you didn't HAVE KZread, Hulu, Amazon was selling books and I don't even think Netflix was around renting videos at that point. INSTEAD, you had a steady glut of bad sitcoms, game shows, reality TV, infomercials, and police procedurals. The only glut today is a massive amount of good quality original dramas and comedies, and certainly more choices (hmm, what shall I binge-watch tonight? MCU or Game of Thrones or just watch old commercials on KZread?) Russo makes SOME good points but as for others, talk about living in a bubble.

@zafmo9829

8 ай бұрын

He just compared football numbers to wwe numbers in 2023..just shows how much of a moron he is.

@leosnyder5264

8 ай бұрын

Raw is not 3 hours you can't count 30 min tv add as w3hout raw

@nellsun2521

7 ай бұрын

That was the perfect amount of time per week for wrestling content. 2 hour Raw. Smackdown was part of the reason Russo/Ferrara left cause VKM expected them to write a 2nd show in the same amount of time and with no pay rise! Was bound to cause a decline in quality (and it did by 2000/2001 it felt watered down).

@mr.perksy

7 ай бұрын

@@nellsun2521 absolutely. It really changed after that. 2 hrs per week of live first run programming was enough.

Because of the actor strike, Monday Night Football is now on ESPN and ABC... no suggestions are going to help, especially when the USA Network wants to keep RAW at 3 hours.

I hope HHH watches this video.

As one of the "dirtsheet marks" who first fell in love with wrestling 25 years ago (WCW Nitro) then lapsed and came back for life, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!! It really feels like wrestling fans are the worst thing about the wrestling business and want it to become like what comics were before the marvel movies. Lets be honest we all watch for the larger than life characters (In personality and appearance) as well as the compelling storylines. Of course sensibilities have changed from 1998 but Russo's point about having everything on the show have a motivation and meaning behind it is so true. The unfortunate thing is Triple H knows the "IWC" hated his reign of terror run so he started to win back favour with this indie style booking on NXT that he's brought to mostly RAW. Vince is spot on we don't need long matches we could do with more backstages and vignettes to help build up characters without live promos or just having a match. Hopefully the talent themselves listen to this and use it to pitch more of what Russo is talking about. New to the show and I think I'm here to stay. All the best from Johannesburg South Africa, bro.

I used to watch WWE. I haven’t watched it in years. Why? Because it’s not very good. You are absolutely right! It’s filler material. The product doesn’t matter. The WWE has its money. It doesn’t have to put out good content because they will get paid regardless. The WWE will never put out storyline/edgy material because a) They would lose their contracts b) They wouldn’t be tolerated in the mainstream. The worst thing that ever happened to WWE was when McMahon sold off to NBC Universal. He shut down his golden cow. The WWE Network. They lost the freedom to put out good content. Unless the WWE decouples itself from the mainstream money providers the content will stay the way it is. It’s not just the WWE. TV and media in general is flatlined. Nothing is creative, or pushes limits. It’s the just the same recycled garbage across the entertainment landscape. You want to watch good TV? Go back to prior to 2006. Modern stuff is just not good.

@goodday2760

8 ай бұрын

The notion that even 2006 is not 'modern wrestling', which you hear everywhere now, 'modern modern modern', 'toxic toxic toxic', that says it all. Fake short attention spans, fake amnesia, fake instant gratification. It's much easier to have no standards that way. They're pretending to forget.

@nellsun2521

7 ай бұрын

There is still good TV being made outside of wrestling though. (Game of Thrones; Breaking Bad; The Wire; The Haunting of Hill House; Fargo.)

Great video Vince. You're still the smartest person in wrestling.🥇

Good video

If you listen to the fanboy's and marks they would have you thinking wrestling is more popular than ever. There were so many factors that made wrestling what it was in the late 90s. Culture and political correctness will not allow the product to be compelling enough to interest the casual fan. Triple H is worth about 100 million he doesn't have much incentive to rock the boat.

@nellsun2521

7 ай бұрын

True.

My issue with people talking about TV ratings of any kind is; we live in the social media & KZread age. Pat MacAfee is under fire because apparently his espn ratings are down but the dude kills it on social & im sure his downloads on Spotify are killing it too. It’s time we start to view these things from a different lens. Ratings don’t matter the way they did in the 90s. People consume the content in a condensed form (short clips). Not long form. Speaks more to the attention span & speed at which people operate now.

Good points. I appreciate and enjoy the athletics, but I enjoy the captivating personalities, the charisma, and the capitivating stories. Without focusing on the entertainment , you are just trying to be what you are not: a straight sport. You've got to hook people outside what you already have to grow.

Spot on!!

Well spoken and the truth, thanks Vince!

HOLD TIGHT, VAL VENIS!! (Thought of him SECONDS before Vince mentioned him)

Agree with everything you said. spot on.👍

Triple h creativity friendship and betrayal

@felixcolon599

8 ай бұрын

@@lawrencemowersiii7114 a man that will never get over

@tnawcwvictoria

8 ай бұрын

​@@lawrencemowersiii7114He also created Damage CTRL who are definitely not over

Russo is 1000% right.

Even though I’m more of a cornette guy I gotta say Vince is killing it with these long monologues directly addressing someone and it will be a weekly thing because he has a million enemies lol. The best thing about Vince is that EVERYONE ON THE ROSTER CONTRIBUTED WITH SOME KIND OF PROGRAM/FEUD WITH SOMEBODY. I don’t know who was responsible for the Barry Horowitz/candido feud but just the fact that Barry had a program with anybody and had matches in several pay per views is AWESOME! THE BROOKLYN BRAWLER HAD A SHOT AT THE WORLD TITLE AT A HOUSE SHOW IN NYC! I love that shit! Even today when Horowitz and brawler talk about it you could see the child enthusiasm in their eyes when they tell the story in shoot interviews. Mark Henry sexual chocolate with the babe Ruth of female wrestling as his girlfriend. LOL