Dude! The new banner is fucking sweet!

@Thrand11

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks we have many more surprises to come out all this week!

I like the possibilities for short range combat this allows. The assumption that a sword and shield user has the fight in the bag if he gets past the point is a lot less likely here, where the underarm makes it much more easy to bind or knock aside.

Great work once again. I very much like that it is supported by period art work.

@Thrand11

8 жыл бұрын

I will try to get more historical depictions in the videos to come and give full credit to you for all the pics you have contributed advice and help with this technique shield brother.

@swordandshield

8 жыл бұрын

ThegnThrand most excellent, shield brother.

that's awesome your showing your guys techniques and as always great job

@Thrand11

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks

You may already know this, but the back-weighted stance you show after 8:00 is historical without a slightest doubt - it's shown and explained in Fiore's Floss Duellatorum. Now, Fiore is a lot later than Vikings, but since he's showing the same stance (and technique, avoid blow by stepping, then counterattack or bind), it's probably well worth your time looking into. Word of warning, though, you'll have to read the entire book. Fiore is sort of infamous for referring you to his earlier plays (e.g. sword on horseback refers you back to the dagger) or just plain assuming you already know them (best seen in dagger section). I personally suggest Tracy Mellow translation, it looks really, really good, and unless you can read latin or italian, you don't need the original text all that much.

Well presented and explained. Points for explaining the importance of hip/torso drive in the stab or throw.

@Thrand11

8 жыл бұрын

The hip can be omitted with light overarm sliding throw but you lose some reach and power. So yes hip is very important for speed power and reach.

@godwar4034

8 жыл бұрын

ThegnThrand, do you know of the ancient Greek psiloi that were used by the ancient Greeks during the time of the Second Persian Invasion of ancient Greece?

love the T-shirt and your new banner:)

@Thrand11

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Awesome video as always! And alot of helpfull tips ! Greets from Belgium

@Thrand11

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@cedric871

8 жыл бұрын

+ThegnThrand actually just noticed the new intro ! Nice

Hail, Thrand of the Strong Sliding Spear! Hail, Eldgrimr of the Steady Boom Mike!

@LordEldgrimr

8 жыл бұрын

lol. Thanks but, I wasn't steady at all :p it was too difficult to remain still while trying to pay attention to my camera and my subject while simultaneously holding the boom.

Good video. If you ever need an idea for a video you could explain/demostrate that off axis turning footwork thing some more. I not sure i understand how that would work exactly.

Love that new itro the banner and the flagged banner too mountain did a good hob A trained spear man would be a right pain in the backside to get round for anyone who'd lost their spear. Would be interesting to see some sparing outing the techniques in to practice sometime

@Thrand11

8 жыл бұрын

Yes the Iron Mountain armory did a great job on banner. We will be doing series of combat techniques with spear and shield and of course combat as well.

do you have any combat techniques for strapped shields (kite) and a spear?

Question: where is your spear's center of balance? It seems to me this technique benefits the most from a balance point somewhere near the center of the shaft so that the spear is more manageable to retrieve after being thrown out.

@Thrand11

8 жыл бұрын

Depends on length of spear used. You want the point near your head and right eye or just slightly in from of it when chambered.

what made that split in the top of the shield.

what mic did u guys use?

When you 'slide' the spear you are reducing forward momentum with friction. This can be observed by the sound of your hand abrading on the shaft of the spear.

@Thrand11

8 жыл бұрын

Yes but still more power is achieved than a grip and thrust method in most cases. the acceleration of the weapon and it's weight give more power than body and grip can alone. The body pivot and lunge is not trully message either but if done correctly with method show one can achieve power near thrown speed and that rivals and static grip punching method.

@MartinGreywolf

8 жыл бұрын

Well, yes and no. If you are trying to throw a proper full-power strike, then you will achieve the same power with a Thrand grip or static grip, if the weapon is the same. Thrand only has the shaft actually slide at the longest range, otherwise his grip is, well, static (that is, the position of the hand doesn't change, only the way the hand grips the weapon). What people usually do with static grip, though, is not a full power blow, but sort of a quick poke - sort of like a difference between a jab and proper punch in boxing. Both have their place, but work very differently, even if they look almost the same if you draw or photograph them. Once the shaft starts sliding and being slowed, well, you got to a range that you simply couldn't reach with a static grip, so it's not a question of 100% or 80% power, but of striking or no strike possible at all. In that situation, it's always better to have the option to strike.

@Thrand11

8 жыл бұрын

Good observation and I totally agree.

See i think this right is is how the peltasts fought and it was effective so it must have been adopted.

@Thrand11

8 жыл бұрын

It predates the peltast going to the bronze age and the primary style of the hoplite and spartans that was used with the Dory or Doru. Here are a couple of videos explaining it. Thrand's Overarm Spear Vs Christopher Matthew's Underarm spear! A Storm of Spears Edit! kzread.info/dash/bejne/m42qmpmdpJPPqKQ.html Overarm Vs. Underarm Spear in Greek / Spartan Phalanx : Thrand's Spear Sliding Style Tested kzread.info/dash/bejne/fah9stJmnZmfcrw.html

A spear user against a shield user would make any sliding with the spear very vulnerable to disarm. As well, I am sure against a shield user the spear man with a shield would focus on lower blows to the opponents leading knees, shins and feet. Probably why greaves came about. Using the reach, but firm handed, seems more realistic for real combat, being all sweaty and bloody prone, grip and dis arming has deadly consequence.

so have fun with touching that shaft

@Thrand11

8 жыл бұрын

I will I always do :D

That foreshadowing tho

@Thrand11

8 жыл бұрын

what are You referring too?

@phaenon4217

8 жыл бұрын

+ThegnThrand The flag from Iron mountain armory.

@Thrand11

8 жыл бұрын

+mastur cheef in HD ah

That poor (remain of) tree

u know that all this spear and sheild stuff is not gonna defend against an ar 15 ladd