I actually love how straight up leon is, not scared at all to give his genuine thoughts, something many would never do

@bigboss9662

Жыл бұрын

They do dirty on Adam s

@asifsiddique455

Жыл бұрын

@@bigboss9662 nah

@yashvardhangupta7398

Жыл бұрын

Who can possibly scare him?

@allensastre5891

Жыл бұрын

i feel like he's too quick sometimes. wants to put bdave in journeyman tier as if 2 fights (1w-1l) tells all. with adam saleh, pretty legit judgement, adam has had a bunch of fights and hasnt amounted to much. bdave has had 2, his debut being against a completely different pineda to the one ksi fought. if that version of pineda turns up he gives ksi more trouble than that fraud fournier. always had a suspicion those wins were bought when he spends more on PEDs than these guys that he fought at pro can earn as part of their purse.

@anon420098

Жыл бұрын

Brave until it's time to talk about KSi

Leon is so refreshingly harsh with a giant smile on his face! "He needs to hang up the gloves!" just as Sensei is chatting about coming back in! ✨️

@ohohohoh2448

Жыл бұрын

Until it's about gib

@bonulver

Жыл бұрын

@@ohohohoh2448 I agree with them on that. All the way with the Big G-I-B!

@JTeeLockedIn

Жыл бұрын

Sensi a pusi wasn’t he about boxing on his old KZread vids and now he retiring sooner then Nate Diaz

IN RIL & WILLS WE TRUST✍🏿

@Asc11903

Жыл бұрын

The only people that you can get real info from

@NeonSpecsCo

Жыл бұрын

Audhubilla meni shaytan rajeem

@Crapulence1

Жыл бұрын

@@NeonSpecsCo why u saying that for?

In my opinion, I think Walid and Deen deserve to be on the GOAT tier. If we take weight classes aside, they have a lot better boxing skills than many people on the list

@MysticMarble

Жыл бұрын

They’re technical ability are by far the best but to be put in goat i feel like they need more fights, when walid rematches and beats deen, hes easily at the top

@Ilias24.

Жыл бұрын

Deen not so much neither walid

@XtoCee

Жыл бұрын

Biased list, that's why. How is Gib above Saltpapi and in the same category as Jake? Madness!

@softpianomusic7773

Жыл бұрын

@@XtoCee salt papi has realistically had 2 actual fights and hes 1-1 in those, his first 2 dont count fucking 2 week swarmz would of beaten them. Gib has had 5 actual fights and is 4-1, his first doesnt count since he fought a blind irish man. this list isnt about whos the most skilled its about who has been the most proven and succesfull.

@diogomarques554

Жыл бұрын

There is no real competition in that division, they are definitely the goats there, but dont really stack up as pound to pound since they havent fought anyone considerable imo

Definitely needed a tier between has potential and journeyman

@humayunhassan4591

Жыл бұрын

Yea definitely

@thejaded

11 ай бұрын

What would you name it bro?

I actually rate Leon for that take on Jake cos no one gives him ratings for setting trends

@Andy-zi2es

Жыл бұрын

That something I've always rated about jake like Leon said jake was the first to go into the abyss and take risks

@3three3

Жыл бұрын

@@Andy-zi2es Funny thing is KSI says Jakes stuck in an echo chamber when his entire fan base is an echo chamber when it comes to Jake.

@eyesee1179

10 ай бұрын

True, barely any/no influencers in their damn mind would fight Tyron Woodley, let alone Tommy Fury and risk everything like Jake Paul.

the fact that they put sensei at "hang up the gloves" is crazy😤

@accountnew7030

Жыл бұрын

I can SLAP UP sensei in the ring and I've been doing boxing for 3 months go and tell your mans that

@thegoat6116

Жыл бұрын

@@accountnew7030 delusional

@manemane4735

Жыл бұрын

It is because he does not want to fight anymore. Skill wise, he is near the top and they acknowledge that.

@Hdly216

Жыл бұрын

Because he did...

@aycreates7788

Жыл бұрын

@@manemane4735 then why was their second option "journeyman"

I hear what they saying about sensei butttt he would’ve put Kenny away but the ref jumped in for no reason then it just went down from there

@khoualdiafarouk710

Жыл бұрын

They are just biased to kenny its whatever

@dust5717

Жыл бұрын

Why didnt he do it again? If hes that skilled he shouldve knocked kenny down

@fusionguava8336

Жыл бұрын

@@dust5717 because the ref was being over protective kinda killed the fight from both sides

@SuDe-sx7km

Жыл бұрын

@@dust5717he literally beat kenny. would’ve been a ko if red didn’t help kenny

@evangingerson1271

Жыл бұрын

The ref was only overprotective ones Sensai actually spoke about why he didn’t put the pressure on after he is a counter puncher and after that Kenny fought smarter and didn’t go into any counters after that save from the ref

The only opinion I trust 🥇

@Murtazakhan1_

Жыл бұрын

FACTS

@eyad5773

Жыл бұрын

fr

@lukass3533

Жыл бұрын

And wade

@keatonward7693

Жыл бұрын

@@lukass3533no

@beamingkun

Жыл бұрын

Fuck no

Faze sensei did beat Kenny. They just gave it to Kenny because of bad judges.

@AwesomeMan2696

Жыл бұрын

@@hthomas-vj8cw nah you're missing the point - sensei never did boxing fights he did MMA and Karate.. dude is not a BOXER. This dude Sensei doesn't even take boxing seriously he's never done a legit camp. Even when he fought Kenny he admitted to only having sparred a few boxing rounds and mainly teaching Karate in his Dojo.

@ghostx3321

Жыл бұрын

Bare in mind sensei would’ve had kenny on the floor 1st round if the ref didn’t jump in to protect kenny straight away.

The issue with the way the tiers are named is that they all level up in skill level but journeyman is kind of a seperate category not measured by skill. Of course Adam Saleh is better than BDAVE, but the way the tier list is built its gonna mislead a lot of people into thinking that he's ranked lower in terms of skill

@Smokey348

11 ай бұрын

yeah, i have seen a lot of journeyman that are solid boxers with like 100 losses or smth. They should have also put in a category thats called ''solid fighter''

I wish people would just rank the fighters from worst to best instead of worrying about the category names

@mrlegkick91

Жыл бұрын

That's wayyy harder than using categories

@wizardsyndicate5505

Жыл бұрын

@@mrlegkick91nah working in the mines is hard. That’s just being lazy and not wanting to hurt feelings

@mrlegkick91

Жыл бұрын

@Wizard Syndicate lol I don't think they give a f about feelings. It's just a lot more complex to rank everyone like that categories just makes more sense. Maybe they could rank them within the categories. That would be interesting

@fatdingo8251

Жыл бұрын

@@wizardsyndicate5505Do not look at this guy’s comment history ^

@Notorious224

Жыл бұрын

if we talking skill it is 1st - KSI 2nd - Jake 3rd - AT 4th - Gib 5th - Nunez

“Anthony Taylor is there Moses tryna lead them to the promise land” I’m dead😂😂

There’s no way sensei should be at the bottom. I feel like he goes easy on these guys when sparring and fighting. The Kenny fight was clearly a robbery as well.

@Karim12-1

Жыл бұрын

yeah but he said in an interview that he will never box again and just retire from martial arts and do other things, but if he was still active he will demolish everyone in this list imo

@brandonadam7167

Жыл бұрын

Did you not hear their reasoning to why they put Sensei there? They're totally right. Sensei would be a great teacher for the rest of the influencers. His attitude towards fighting also isn't there. The dude doesn't have any intentions of fighting and he's already been there and done that in his own pro-fighting career. Hang up the gloves is plausible, no shots are being thrown at his skills or anything.

@ashtonpeppard3663

Жыл бұрын

​@@breloumhe beat kenny

@ashtonpeppard3663

Жыл бұрын

@@breloum he was gonna knock him out but the ref stopped him

@jancyvargheese5351

Жыл бұрын

True. He went easy mode on kenny. We never seen sensei at his best giving it his all. He is definitely at the top in this scene

love this two. they are the most honest and RILLEST guys in here. they say what they think. and i love it. so much respect

“Hang up the gloves” is so disrespectful 😂😂😂😂😭😭

Cmon leon you said how is slim 5-0 fighting people on their debut , same goes for ksi and he got put in goat tier

@ethanwiles1798

Жыл бұрын

i agree, since his return hes fought a skinny mexican kid, swarmz who only had 2 weeks experience when he fought jj, temper who got knocked out by slim, and the joe fournier which resulted a no contest, no credible opponents and now hes picking at jakes opponents

Nah Leon actually talks hella facts, I love how realistic he is but still manages to be kind for such a savage, excellent content chaps

I love how u can both make valid points to eachother and make sense lol

Amazing content guys

I like how unbiased you guys are

@jjblack175

Жыл бұрын

Biased* u mean

@cozy.elfenomenooooo

Жыл бұрын

​@@jjblack175 fr

@AJ-tm8cg

Жыл бұрын

Pineda

@jesusbaeza1584

Жыл бұрын

They put gib at goat… biased af

@wespicedmemes

Жыл бұрын

@@jesusbaeza1584 y’all just don’t like gib but he’s up there. He definitely better than those names on nearly there besides maybe papi. Maybe.

Leon is funny as hell🤣🤣🤣🤣 he is danm straight to his point. What a savage guy 🤣🤣🤣

BDave feels like a journeyman if I’ve ever seen one. Fr no disrespect at all. It just feels like he’s really not on smoke.

@yennox5338

Жыл бұрын

He is on smoke but he's just here to participate as Leon said, don't know many dudes that would take a mystery opponent like Pineda and still perform well.

Putting sensei in bottom tier is criminal

Great list kept it real like always

BLESSED ME WITH A VIDEO COMING BACK FROM SCHOOL 😭🙏

putting jarvis in has potential but blueface in almost there is crazy

At least we know this duo will always be straight up

Sensei could probably beat the entire crossover goats list aside from MAYBE Jake

9:55 Leon: "Ugh hang up the gloves, how dare you!" then proceeds to make a face of disgust hahaha love it.

Love that shirt Leon!!✝️❤️

Damm sensei in hang up the gloves, makes sense tho

Next boxing tier list you guys should base the boxers off of their pure boxing skills and not because of your personal opinion on them.

@IcyAgent

Жыл бұрын

thats what they did

@HimK22

Жыл бұрын

@@IcyAgent blueface at nearly there?!?!!!

@IcyAgent

Жыл бұрын

@HimK the only people that I could see beating him in has potential are deji kenny jarvis and maybe leveon. So why would he not be in nearly there. he's had multiple fights never lost, all wins are by ko and people think it's a 50/50 fight for him and slim so by that logic him and slim should be on the same level.

@HimK22

Жыл бұрын

@@IcyAgent yeah i could see him winning due to his natural advantages and awkward fighting style

@Notorious224

Жыл бұрын

if they did pure boxing skills KSI is on top for sure. salt papi and jake were exposed so id say they are more closer to each other at around #2

20:44 Big Leon for speakin facts

One things thats guarenteed is yall are gonna keep it ril

Leon straight cooking misfts while Viddal smoothly tries to move on lmao

There should be a category between Nearly There and Goats. For people like Slim, Gib etc.

AND WE BACK

How does Logan keep making top of the list with ZERO wins is insane

@mregg771

Жыл бұрын

i swear, these guys were on some different horeshit, logan and nunes almost there like wth, and gib on the same level as jake and ksi lol gib will be slept within 2-3 rounds with them, putting jarvis in has potential and blueface in nearly there lol, and how tf is slim still at nearly there, hez undefeated in this scene, has to be the goats

@ronnienaldo7101

Жыл бұрын

I mean, both fights with KSI could’ve gone either way.

@ckmortanya

Жыл бұрын

it’s cause he’s fighting the harder competition. if he carried on boxing he would rack up wins

@Wafrie01

Жыл бұрын

His first fight was ksi my guy. Then went straight to floyd. If you put him in there with slim or temper or zanetti he’s knocking them out

Damn sensei in put the gloves down? that's wild

Gib is underrated, I’m glad he’s up there with the Goats 🐐

this is why i rate these 2 always keep it real no matter what aint no yes men

Leon never ever talks shit this guy spits facts with everything he says 😭

I peeped the new training program you got, Leon 👀

Sensei is hang up the gloves is CRAZY

@AwesomeMan2696

Жыл бұрын

Viddal and Wills are always hating on Sensei - it's kinda crazy. At most times they seemt to like him, but they don't seem to like him much when it comes to these boxing lists, they always shit on him.

Vidal & Leon should be misfits press holders and commentators

Sensei nearly there

Big up for the honest takes but labels were horror (might need to run this one back) 😂

Controversial one but I agree with the sensei opinion. He is immensely talented but 30 years old, getting married, works more than full time and has talked at length about wanting to move into an analyst role. Hes got nothing left to prove

Reel n Wheels back at it again

Whatever the top is that Leon has, I need that 🔥

These two really have you thinking

This is the real tier list.

first list i completely agree with

man ik gib has had a good run in the scene but u cant put him in the same tier as Jake.

@hellohi1445

Жыл бұрын

Jake is in a different level to KSI too but there’s no way KSI isn’t crossover GOAT.

@MysticMarble

Жыл бұрын

@@hellohi1445 As a crossover boxer he’s not a goat, as an influencer maybe

@hellohi1445

Жыл бұрын

@@MysticMarble yeh that’s the point lmao. In terms of influencers he’s the goat. Well In the goat category. Behind jake.

adam should be way higher

Good tier list I think y’all were just missing a tier category or two, one between nearly there and has potential and one between journeyman and has potential

@dontatme951

11 ай бұрын

100%

You need ONE more tier, in between has potential and nearly there

@IcyAgent

Жыл бұрын

yeah i think kenny deji wassabi and jarvis would go better in that tier

One of the best tier list for yt boxing, how straight forward Leon was is perfect

That jmx vs logan fight

10:29 promised land😂😂😂Leon is too funny man

@1x.edoliver

Жыл бұрын

Bro said AT is their Moses 😂😂😂😂😭

I don’t agree with the sensei decision but the rest is fair.

@Yxsufyt

Жыл бұрын

tbf sensei did want to hang uo the gloves after the kenny fight, but yh he has one of the goats

@Ilias24.

Жыл бұрын

​@@Yxsufyt he more of kickboxer tbh He would destroy everyone in Kickboxing match

@Hdly216

Жыл бұрын

​@@Ilias24.yea but this is about boxing

@IcyAgent

Жыл бұрын

i mean sensei agrees with the decision

@Ilias24.

Жыл бұрын

@@Hdly216 ok

ngl next you gotta have more tiers, there should be another tier between has potential and journeyman

Sensi put away Kenny but for some reason got saved from a standing 8 when usual should of had the chance to try to get the ko

Been waiting for you two to upload since elbowgate.

Pineda Journeyman 😂😂😂

How can you put Logan Paul in nearly there when he has never won a fight and hasn’t fought in over 2 years and then put Sensei at the bottom who arguably beat King Kenny, who you put in “has potential”?

@scoobydoing9039

Жыл бұрын

so many fighters are scared to fight Logan, even Nate Diaz wants to fight Jake more than Logan.

Love how Leon agreeing with Vidal saying KZreadrs fighting legends is ruining yt boxing, but Leon supported and trained deji to fight Floyd. Hypocrite.

@darion3780

Жыл бұрын

facts fr

Should’ve had Tempo Arts mannn

big ups to leon

This is the only valid list. A trainer who’s had pro bouts and a current pro boxer who’s ranked. They understand the scene too. Everyone else except for Sensei? I can’t agree with their opinion.

gib goes in nearly there

Do a tier list with pro boxers

Bro how is Leon so unintentionally funny?

Wills wearing Holstrength God is Great

Gib? Goats alongside Jake and ksi? Let’s look at it like this his resume isn’t deep He fought three people making their debuts lost to Jake in an embarrassing fashion and then beat Austin mcbroom two times if anything he should be among the salt papi’s slim’s and Nunes

@MysticMarble

Жыл бұрын

Ksis only credible opponent was logan paul who he barely won against and since those years he’s only been fighting bums including a fat rapper with no experience, a skinny mexican , cod gamer and a retired inactive business man who took drugs to beat bums

@mikethegreat1462

Жыл бұрын

Facts

I love leon man 😭🤣

Respect to Leon for keeping it real

The best podcast

11:02 caught me off guard lol

I wish Logan had more of the killer instinct like Jake, could have been very entertaining to see him do more of the influencer fights :D

@daebak7370

Жыл бұрын

He has more natural boxing skills than jake

@ryan4152

Жыл бұрын

logan would lose to alot of boxer in his weight class right now just cause he looks good built doesn't mean anything he would get destroyed by leveons bell and beat by jmx blueface papi slim at

@daebak7370

Жыл бұрын

@@ryan4152 he would beat everyone on that list except leveon bell

I feel like if Jake fought Tommy the first or second time they were supposed to, it would’ve been catastrophic for Jake. Probably would’ve gotten knocked out

@jaxingoff6245

Жыл бұрын

This isn't talked about enough. Jake is LUCKY Tommy pulled out those two times

@Andy-zi2es

Жыл бұрын

​@JaxingOff why would it be talked about,as if it was Jake's fault, It was obvious jake didn't have the best odds as tommy is a volume puncher were Jake's at most will throw 3 punches but hats off to jake for taking the risk

Bro Sensei at the bottom of the tier list is crazy.

aint no way Bdave and jarvis in the same category

Can't believe how unbias the discussion around KSI and Jake Paul was as most time it's all political. But this video kept it factual not emotional.

@ethanwiles1798

Жыл бұрын

fax, every ksi fight since his return have all been fights where he should sleep them within 2 rounds

Adam Saleh should be potential he been bout for time

Looking back i don't know what Viddal and Leon were smoking putting Nunes and Logan in nearly there😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Agreed with the sensei opinion

@AwesomeMan2696

Жыл бұрын

You about the only one that agrees

Yall are sleeping on leveon bro, went all round with uriah, easily smacked up jmx, knocked out AP, hes nearly there and gives anyone issues

Kenny a journey man bruh

@IcyAgent

Жыл бұрын

just no

The breakdown better ngl

great video

I have always said the same thing Leon said about JJ and Jake

@AlexRight

Жыл бұрын

Both are big time power punchers, so really it’s just whoever lands first, and JJ looks significantly faster, but gets caught a lot more. I think if it’s at 180lbs JJ wins though. I’ve never understood why people seem to think Jake is levels above, his Woodley win is all he’s really got going for him, which granted, is still impressive.

@sk-ng4sp

Жыл бұрын

​@@AlexRight anderson silva beats ksi on points in my opinion. And you will see the levels once he fights tommy coz I 100% know that jake is levels above ksi. And you will know it after the tommy fight coz I see tommy stopping ksi under 4 rounds.

@Andy-zi2es

Жыл бұрын

​@@AlexRight I think you are basing this off jj recent performances where he looked really good against novice fighter that are not on his level. If we are being honest jj hasn't had a good fight since logan. That why people rate jake alot because he's gone through more adversity and fought harder fight that actually tested him.

@AlexRight

Жыл бұрын

@@sk-ng4sp Silva was a worse fight that Woolley, his output was more, but the guy was zero threat to Jake. Jake was always going to win that fight lol, also KSI probably KO’s silva.

@sk-ng4sp

Жыл бұрын

@@AlexRight I thought that silva wasn't as good as he in jake fight compared to how he was during his fight with Julio Cesar Chavez Jr was because Jake's power. Even in tommy fight you could see that tommy was fighting on Backfoot due Jake's threat to throw powerful 1-2 combos in which he avoided and outclassed jake... woodley was not harder fight than silva and woodley would easily ko fournier under 3 rounds and the ksi vs woodley fight is 51-49 in favor of woodley coz ksis chin ain't that great...both woodley and ksi have potential to knockout one another but it all depends on timing and accuracy in which woodley wins that.

Adam fought evilhero tko rd 1

The thumbnail tier list is in shambles 💀

How is Adam saleh a journey man

@jancyvargheese5351

Жыл бұрын

Adam Saleh is an experienced amateur, and was gonna become pro before his boxing licence was taken off due to street fights. He is nearly at the top

I alway rate leon and viddals opinions

These man always do adam saleh dirty. Hes right up there with dean. Should be has potential at least

RIL & WILLS is the best

IF KSI wins against Tommy, Viddal should drop thinking about fighting him.. cos JJ is not better then Viddal on the pro level.