I always saw this as Victoria suffering with Post Pardom Depression. A lot of her pregnancies were close together, I don't think she ever really had the chance to get over her previous pregnancy before becoming pregnant again. If only they knew what we know now.

@chooseyourpoison5105

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I don't think there's any doubt that she suffered post natal depression. She once wrote to her eldest daughter Vicky advising her to space her children, as having her own children close together had been bad for both her and them. She also suffered from a prolapsed uterus from so many pregnancies, which is not an easy condition to live with. Today it could be fixed with surgery but back then Victoria would have just had to suffer.

@kimma508

5 жыл бұрын

I suffered from Post Partum Depression after my first pregnancy. I was so afraid of having it again after another pregnancy and my kids are 4 years apart. Thankfully I was just weepy for a few days and not depressed. I couldn’t imagine having 9 kids in rapid succession. Her poor body both physically and emotionally. As soon as Victoria felt like herself again she was pregnant. I can’t imagine that and being the Queen.

@leahryan5560

4 жыл бұрын

Not really. The last four were a little more spaced out. Louise was born in 1848, Arthur, a little over two years later in 1850, Leopold, almost three years later in 1853, and finally, Beatrice, four years later in 1857.

@vadalia3860

4 жыл бұрын

@@leahryan5560 That's still very close together, particularly at the end of the long string of pregnancies. The minimum that's recommended as healthy today is to get pregnant no less than 18 months after giving birth, meaning that 2 years, 3 months between children is the minimum for healthy spacing. Add the 5 births prior to those last 4 and the healthy minimum timeframe would no doubt have grown.

@bronwengrace7183

4 жыл бұрын

@@vadalia3860 2 years 3 months is not 18 months. I don't really understand

It's so nice to see Jenna having such an incredible grasp and knowledge of Victoria, says a lot about her as an actress when she approaches a character

OMG, I love her accent!

@peterjohnson6692

3 жыл бұрын

It’s an English accent ???

@badussy

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterjohnson6692 not just English

@rosanaconta3416

3 жыл бұрын

@@badussy ?

@badussy

3 жыл бұрын

@@rosanaconta3416 well there’s many accents within the English accent

@di7209

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterjohnson6692 Its an English accent not just the English accent

If Prince Albert looked like the guy portraying him, I can see why it was so easy for Queen Victoria to be so passionate with him, he really is gorgeous

I think, really, she was shocked and traumatized by the reality of what everyone told her was 'the entire purpose of a woman". The poor dear had exactly zero experience with any normal human relationships, let alone anybody resembling a baby. I think, really, she was clueless, more than anything.

@chooseyourpoison5105

6 жыл бұрын

I think, too, she had a lot of buried resentment at her continual pregnancies, especially as she suffered from both morning sickness and post natal depression, not to mention the pain of childbirth prior to chloroform. I recall reading that she once asked her physician Dr Locock if there was any way she could keep having sex with Albert but avoid pregnancy - of course, back then there wasn't - but I wonder if she'd have been a different mother if she'd been born in the era of contraceptives?

@christinecameron1612

6 жыл бұрын

I think she probably would have enjoyed them more if she'd been anything near ready for pregnancy. I mean yeah, she was physically mature, and legally married, but in mental/emotional terms, she was still very innocent. She wasn't even allowed to play with other children herself, and any experience she had in the world with infants was maybe playing a little with her dolly once in a while, if her demented control-freak of a mother even allowed any into her very isolated rooms. Victoria's first act as queen was to move out of her mother's bedroom. That tells you something.

@hannahdyson5603

6 жыл бұрын

She was a nasty piece of work . Her own children hated her .

@leahryan5560

4 жыл бұрын

Hannah Dyson: No, they didn’t.

@dkupke

Жыл бұрын

@@chooseyourpoison5105 got pregnant too young too soon. She never really got to fully enjoy the honeymoon phase of her passionate marriage, having the fairytale interrupted by pregnancy had to be a hard shock.

Albert was a househusband so its not surprising that he was “hands on” for that time period with the children

@monmothma3358

Жыл бұрын

He was quite involved with governing, though, and had a lot of influence, because he "filled in" for Victoria during her pregnancies. Fortunately, he was a sensible man, very interested in science.

"Every child deserves a parent, not every parent deserves a child"

I was told the same thing. "Your father and I would still be together, if it hadn´t been for you and your sister..." So I get that Victoria probably wasn´t that maternal, but she had 9 children. There´s no way that she wasn´t at least somewhat maternal. Also the children were Alberts as well, and history tells us she mourned his death for the rest of her life. I´m sure she loved her children, even if just as an extention that reminded her of her husband.

@cheyennerose2177

4 жыл бұрын

She told her daughter after her daughters baby died to basically deal with it and that it wasn’t nearly as hard as losing a husband. She was an awful mother.

@bookishlyinclined2972

3 жыл бұрын

She probably had 9 kids coz maybe she was coerced into it by Albert or had a lot of sex ( and obviously contraception wasn’t a thing back then) so “oh but she had 9 kids” isn’t my favourite argument for her being maternal.

@shelby8829

3 жыл бұрын

@@bookishlyinclined2972 It was definitely only because she and Albert were banging so often. She was obsessed with him, and viewed her body as a purely sexual tool for him. She wrote in her diaries that she refused to breastfeed even in a time when it was becoming popular because she was so disgusted by the idea of a child sucking at her breast because those were for him. When one of her daughters wrote to her about how unhappy she was after her marriage, because even though she loved her husband fiercely she felt like she didn't belong in his court and that everyone else hated her, and said she wished it could just be her and her husband, Victoria's only response was, "Oh now you know how I've felt all these years about you children!"

@MsBamafanatic

3 жыл бұрын

Maternal and fertile are two different things.

@callemjaymcneill5002

Жыл бұрын

That wasn't your fault, don't carry that weight on your shoulders because it's not your burden to carry. Heartbreak can bring out the worst of people, hope things are better for yourself, sister and mother now. Wishing you all the best ♥️

She was a very strong woman for being so tiny and female. She went back to back pregnancies and struggled with post partum depression, yet ran a country, a household and found time to bathe her children herself; most women can barely take care of their kids while just being a housewife. The criticism she got for her mothering skills were not deserved

@mehornyasfk

Жыл бұрын

_"She was a very strong woman for being so tiny and female"_ Every minute in Africa, 60 seconds pass.

@charlesstuart954

Жыл бұрын

@@mehornyasfk 💀

Some of her diaries were destroyed by her daughters to protect her image( as well as the nation since they had too much information about the government) so I don’t particularly know how maternal she was however I definitely think she had some attachment issues perhaps due to her strained relationship with her own mother.

@jessryan2104

3 жыл бұрын

From what I understand after she died in 1901, Princess Beatrice took to writing the memoir from her diaries that she consolidated so much that over 2/3rds were left out and the original copies were destroyed so we don't know all of her thoughts

@ishuika

3 жыл бұрын

@@jessryan2104 Yes exactly though honestly I wish I could read them

@jessryan2104

3 жыл бұрын

@@ishuika don’t we all. I wonder if there was more to her relationships with Bertie and Leopold. She was so terrible to them we know. But I wonder if she did love them.

@ishuika

3 жыл бұрын

@@jessryan2104 I believe she probably did but Queen Victoria was one complex women only her diaries could tell us her true feelings though it’s a shame we will never see them

@gidzmobug2323

Жыл бұрын

Beatrice was the one who edited the diaries. I suspect that some of the edits were made to keep some details hidden, such as the relationship with John Brown (who many of Victoria's children hated).

I mean she wasn’t the world’s best mother, but she did love her children.

I love that the actors engage by studying the diaries and other accounts through history before actually putting it on screen for the audience.i am a huge fan .just saying

This tv show is underrated and does not receive the credit it deserves

I love ❤️ watching Victoria!! It is really well done 👍!!

She was very close to Princess Beatrice. There’s some beautiful photos and paintings of them together.

I don’t usually watch these kind of shows hut oh my god Jenna Coleman! I love her as an actress

love them 💙💙

Love Victoria 💕📷🎥🎬🎶💕💟 Love jenna as Victoria 💕 she is so good amazing actress 💕💕

When is there going to be a season 4?

Thank you my recommendations for spoiling me

How can i find full episodes? 😣😣

The guy who plays Prince Albert can play Van Gogh.

I love Jenna's brown eyes!!

She was so maternal she allowed her son to be driven to a nervous breakdown. And then blamed him for his father's death . And Albert was the reason poor Bertie was the way he was . His sister was the only one to comfort him .

@alisoncooper6100

6 жыл бұрын

Albert said ,after the birth of Princess Victoria he wanted the nursery full of children and he couldn't wait to educate them. Albert was in charge of that and she must have found it hard to be widowed at 42 with 9 children well indoctrinated with Albert's methods. This is an era where the husband usually ruled on such matters.I think their problem was they both came from dysfunctional families and Albert wanted to present a perfect family setting.He really was no better skilled at parenting than she was but it seems that Victoria bore the blame.

@hannahdyson5603

6 жыл бұрын

Alison Cooper I never said he was better . Driving your son towards a mental breakdown was viewed as cruel even in Victorian times .

@chooseyourpoison5105

6 жыл бұрын

I think you are spot on, Alison. Victoria was fatherless and Albert motherless, and coupled with John Conroy's control of Victoria's mother, and the fact that Albert's father was known for sleeping with anything in a skirt, neither of them exactly had good role models for a happy family life. Albert wrote in his diaries about his desire to create a happy family, but the reality was that he had no idea how to go about doing it.

@einezcrespo

6 жыл бұрын

ChooseYour Poison Exactly. Both had dysfunctional upbringings plus their young age went against them. They had little clue. Worse they had meddling relatives and courtiers especially Uncle Leopold.

Bring it back!!!! It’s better than the crown! If you guys haven’t seen it it’s on Amazon prime! It’s sooooooooo good!

What’s the song in the background?)

@olivialorimer8916

5 жыл бұрын

The Homecoming - Aaron Wheeler and Emily Taylor

Oh it's Clara😀

I hate that there hasn't been another season after the third.

Wow!

She has had three children when it got to season 2 . And then In season 3 they will show her pregnant with her fourth . Cuz she found out she was pregnant at the end of season 2

I read the title as Victoria secret 2

Is this on Netflix because I can’t find it

@laurelrockefeller

5 жыл бұрын

It's on Amazon video. series 1 is free for prime members. last I looked it was not free yet -- but should be come January when series 3 premiers in the USA.

In a letter to her eldest daughter when she wrote how she hated having courtiers around her in Germany all the time and wished to spend time with her husband: Victoria: At last you understand, I hated you children around me, I only ever wished it was me and Papa. When she went to beat her haemophiliac son and her mother asked "How can you bear to hear him cry?" Victoria: After nine children, you don't hear the screams anymore Victoria wasn't maternal in the slightest, and I've read her diaries.

@einezcrespo

6 жыл бұрын

Lola Try being a ruling queen and a mother at the same time it's not easy. As Jenna also said in the video Victoria didn't have the best upbringing considering how isolated and controlled she was by her mother and Sir John Conroy. You have to go beyond the dairies.

@hinahinananoha7783

6 жыл бұрын

E. D. Kids frustrate you? Why not use condoms?

@hannahdyson5603

6 жыл бұрын

E. D. You shouldn't have kids if they frustrate you . Sorry but it's true , she wasn't protective of him at all . I don't know where you got that idea from She drove her son to a mental breakdown. She made him a messed up idiot She was abusive

@lauracleghorn6474

6 жыл бұрын

Lola I would live to read her diaries too!

@chooseyourpoison5105

6 жыл бұрын

Pick the respondent who doesn't have children :-) Much as we all love our children, there would not be a parent on the face of the earth who hasn't had their moments of frustration with them - it's perfectly normal, and as the saying goes, show me a perfect parent and I'll show you a liar. As for not knowing where E.D. got her idea from about Victoria being overprotective of Leopold, not only did she forbid Leopold to join the armed forces, but from doing anything dangerous, period. A reasonable response, given Leopold's haemophilia, coupled with the fact that he had already had several life-threatening haemorrhages - but frustrating for Leopold nonetheless. As for "driving him to a mental breakdown,' why would she? Leopold was doing a great job of that all by himself. Here is an extract from Victoria's journal on hearing of Leopold's death: "He was the dearest of all my dear sons. But for Leopold himself we could not repine - he had always such a restless longing for what he could not have, and as he grew older, this seemed to increase rather than lessen." The ironic thing is, the prince who longed so much to be a soldier but whose haemophilia prevented him, was given a military funeral.

I love Queen Victoria. We’re born on the same day, same blood disorder, height. weird coincidences.

WHERE CAN I SEE THIS?!

@yangzhitongzhi

4 жыл бұрын

Amazon prime

Victoria 3 when?

Añado PBS U.S.A Enhora buena

Where we can watch

@fantasyfiction101

4 жыл бұрын

Amazon Prime has the seasons.

She kind of looks like Miranda Kerr

@stanislausklim7794

6 жыл бұрын

Shay45 she kind of reminds me of Emma Watson

@winniemaina5712

6 жыл бұрын

... and Christina Ricci too... Albert (Tom) gives me Ivar vibes from Vikings, Ich liebe :)

Nothing says I love you like first cousin marrying and creating offspring that are their own cousins.

@AnzuBrief

6 жыл бұрын

I ship Jon and Dany so bad!!

@chooseyourpoison5105

6 жыл бұрын

That was standard practice for the time. Most of the European royal families were all intermarried - that was why Victoria was called "the grandmother of Europe" because nearly every monarch (Russia, Romania, Greece, Denmark, Sweden and Germany, just for starters) was related to her

@einezcrespo

6 жыл бұрын

Kevin Howard That practice goes way back further. Try the Middle Ages and The Renaissance. Both Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip share the same ancestry through Queen Victoria and are distantly related.

@Andrea-xs4ny

4 жыл бұрын

​@@einezcrespo And even further yet, Cleopatra and King Tut both married their siblings, as was common in ancient bloodlines.

@mxhsvn_b7866

4 жыл бұрын

@@Andrea-xs4ny that's a bit extreme though. Marrying your cousin is fine but not sibling

She was horrific towards Bertie and Leopold. Definitely not maternal 😣

@leahryan5560

4 жыл бұрын

Abbi Colman: Not Leopold. She tried to keep him safe since he had hemophilia and all. In fact after he died at age 30, she said “…he was the dearest of my dear sons.” And Bertie was known for being a womanizer, had affairs while married, and involved in several scandals. Not only that, he was also heir to the throne. But when he had an almost fatal case of typhoid fever(the disease which is said to have killed Albert, but I doubt that honestly) the two reconciled. Sure, Victoria wasn’t very maternal, but she wasn’t terrible.

@abbicolman4043

4 жыл бұрын

@@leahryan5560 She humiliated him for being feeble, she didn't actually know he had haemophilia for a long time, until then she was quite awful in her writings about him.

Is there a season 3?

@lizaskywalker1222

3 жыл бұрын

Yup

Yeah nooo. Victoria was a lot of things but she was definitely not maternal.

Speer grassed also his companions.

Is it available on netflix

Kensington? The Royal Burrough?! UP TOP?!? 😂

I'm skeptical about this I don't know if this is true but I heard before Victoria died she ask her children to edit her diaries. Are we truly certain the words in the diaries are her words and how she truly felt about her kids?

What series is this what is it called?

@goglehead1236

2 жыл бұрын

Victoria

1:10 So cute.

season 3??????????

@einezcrespo

6 жыл бұрын

xara nas Greenlit and they just had their first read through. Filming starts later this month or June.

That s Nora from Tvd?

@ZeldaGirl9585

3 жыл бұрын

Scarlett Hefner played Nora, Jenna Coleman plays Queen Victoria

Hey look, it’s Clara

@ejoarkhamgamer567

4 жыл бұрын

Lirp Lorp I thought she was a governess during this time

victotia is gteat much true real story

MELIA ANTIQUA

Queen Victoria was an excellent mother. Look at all that her children accomplished! She raised them into extraordinary people whilst ruling a kingdom! I raised 4 children to be successful, happy, educated adults as a stay at home mother. That was very difficult. Queen Victoria's job was many times harder no matter how much help she had.

@lilovs9952

6 жыл бұрын

Brenda B she was terrible. Just read the diaries.

@FreeSpirit47

6 жыл бұрын

That's your opinion. I don't know that many people could have done any better if they had her circumstances.

@lilovs9952

6 жыл бұрын

Brenda B What circumstancies? NOTHING gives her reason to be a bad mother but she was not only bad but awful! It's not about opinion,it's about facts. I'm telling you:read her diaries!

@rach_laze

6 жыл бұрын

Lilith Reed the circumstances surrounding her upbringing, I've read the diaries and also the rest of the history of victoria and it makes sense the way she felt and acted when you take everything into consideration. She was kept almost completely isolated until she was married with little to no interaction with anyone but her mother and tutors, she became a mother when she was emotionally too immature to deal with such things and her first interaction with a child was likely when her firstborn came into the world. Not to mention she suffered from severe morning sickness and post partum depression in a time where such things weren't considered real or proper. Some people are natural mothers others aren't. i believe that with their less than traditional upbringings between them her and albert did their best but had no clue how to be natural parents. Even today when post partum depression is well known and acknowledged it can take years for a woman to stop resenting their child imagine that 9 times over with not a maternal instinct in your body and there is the reason she wasn't a good mother she was likely suffering a lot of mental and emotional torment her entire life and still had to run a country its amazing that her children grew up to be who they were

@christofat2704

6 жыл бұрын

No a great Queen just happened to be Queen at the right time!

tell true about Victoria and Albert

☺

Jenna reminds me of Emma Watson (very intelligent and well spoken but also breathtakingly gorgeous) but much warmer and more welcoming

Will the show address the royal assent to the genocide of indigenous people in Canada, New Zealand and abroad? The installation of child labour and sexual abuse camps also called residential schools in Canda were founded with the assent of the queen? Where did all their wealth come from if not from the blood and labour of millions of people they didn't care lived or died?

Clara Oswald fan any body or is it just me ?

@EAMCFC

4 жыл бұрын

No same here

"if you delve within her diaries".. you mean the diaries that were butchered by the heavy editing her last daughter did before they were put away?

When I first saw the series, I was confused about who it was based on. Is there another Queen Victoria? Because Jenna Coleman is far too pretty to be portraying Queen Victoria of the 19th century. It's almost absurd. Nevertheless, I'm really enjoying the series!

@SpiralBreeze

6 жыл бұрын

Arlenis B Hey now! Dame Judi Dench played Victoria twice, and she's a handsome woman.

@megchapman3776

6 жыл бұрын

This is the thing that annoys this actress Jena the most! She has defended herself multiple times.

@alisoncooper6100

6 жыл бұрын

Queen Victoria wasn't always an old woman.You need to read some history books and look at paintings of Victoria as a young woman. If you have an opportunity to see the dvd of Series 2 look at the extras on disc two and you will see Jenna and the set hairdresser discussing various hair styles and there are many photos of Victoria hanging up as references. Some very similar to Jenna in appearance, especially her deportment.

@einezcrespo

6 жыл бұрын

Arlenis B Emily Blunt and Victoria Hamilton also played Victoria and they're pretty actresses.

@chooseyourpoison5105

6 жыл бұрын

Actually, Victoria WAS quite pretty as a teenager and in her twenties. It was only in her thirties that she started to gain weight and lose her looks. Check out portraits of her. She had long light brown hair, large blue eyes and a pink and white complexion. The French ambassador commented "a more charming young lady would be impossible to imagine."

I dont think she liked her kids that much I think that if she could choose she would have had less kids and had them a bit later Like loads of people really...people don't want 9 kids, 1 kid is hard work but 9 kids and all those pregnancies, what a nightmare

Ugh, I love this show. We need the importance of GOD and courtship back.

@rainbowgirl3807

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

vice

Monique

A las vieja le encantaban los placeres conyugales pero odiaba hacerse cargo de las consecuencias

God and Jesus love you

I was leary about watching this but season 1 was good, couldn't get through S2E1. She still looked like a little girl, not regal at all. I definitely didn't like the sny comment about God.

Did they not have birth control?

@leahryan5560

4 жыл бұрын

Sumaiya Tabassum Kabir huma: No, of course not. This is the 1800s, so of course not.

@masterprocastinator8884

4 жыл бұрын

@@leahryan5560 Well there's always pulling out!

@bellei365

4 жыл бұрын

Sumaiya Tabassum Kabir huma they were expected to have many children for heirs. And pulling out is only about 60% effective

@paular3822

4 жыл бұрын

Of course not 🙄

@hj4851

4 жыл бұрын

@@masterprocastinator8884 the pull out method is not reliable at all. So no there wasn't any real reliable safe birth control.