Whenever I hear "Hi I'm Tim," I immediately hear "TMOSSO" even though he didn't say it.

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

Cool. I'm becoming the Bob's Discount Furniture of luxury watches. Flood the zone with ads, and people can't escape you - even when they try! Best, Tim

@andreanicolas9363

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@eyeheartsushi2212

Жыл бұрын

I hear the follow up: “Welcome to Watchbox, and thanks for logging on.”

@andreanicolas9363

Жыл бұрын

@@eyeheartsushi2212 🤣🤣🤣

Thank you Tim and watchbox for doing more Vacheron content. Finally, less AP. Bravo.

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

I'm happy to provide it! Even if you buy your Overseas elsewhere, my goal is to produce a model reference of lasting value to collectors. Best, Tim

@dsvillalva

Жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews thanks Tim. May I also mention please bring back marketwrap with Mike!

This style of show, the Collector's Guides & Versus, in my opinion, is your best pre-recorded format. Of course your live shows are the stuff of legend.

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

I always wanted to have a regular feature with high-grade production values, but it couldn't come at the expense of the 5-6 minute reviews. I never want this to become like the watch channels that release four highly edited videos per month; this channel is an archive and a resource. Collector's Guide gives me an outlet to produce better model-reference videos without slowing the publication schedule to a crawl. We lost and needed to replace a member of the video staff who was responsible for post-production of the Collector's Guide videos, so that's why I hadn't posted one of these in a while. Best, Tim

Definitely the piece that I want the most right now.

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

These are fantastic watches. If you're looking for the most collectible of the 4500V series, see whether you can find one of the brown dial examples. Best, Tim

I like this slightly longer, more in depth format. Thanks Tim!

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

More will follow! I always wanted a "deluxe" review format with longer exposition, more context, and higher reference value. If I can add some humor and entertainment in the process, that makes my day. Best, Tim

Only Tim, gives you the finest details about haute horology watch making!

@jolness1

Жыл бұрын

@@stanwilson7040 it’s a great watch but it’s not.

@simonassouline1230

Жыл бұрын

@@stanwilson7040 Hi! If seen the same watch at $31k on Chrono24! I wouldn’t be surprised in the next few months, the overseas 4500v with blue dial could be bought for $25k, chrono24 is 10 to 20 percent to high!

@zetapingpong

Жыл бұрын

@@simonassouline1230 Good luck buying a blue dial 3 hander at list price, especially since it’s boutique only. 10-20% or whatever is not that bad vs having to buy multiple high end dress watches especially if you don’t have a use for them.

I noticed that the prices of 4500v have been dropping like a stone… good time to buy

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

Yes they are. I wouldn't be a fan at the $70K early 2022 price. But $39,000 seems fair since the last cataloged price of the 5711/1A was $35K, and the Overseas 4500v is a far superior watch. Best, Tim

Tim, absolutely superb. Thank you so much. Top notch horological journalism- without being snooty about it! Loved it, and learned a lot. Thanks so much again!

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I always have fun shooting these. Pretense has no place in my features. And while I hope you buy your next watch from WB, my main goal is to tell an entertaining story and provide a model reference -- even if you plan to buy that model elsewhere. Best, Tim

That bracelet is incredible. Might be my favorite bracelet on any watch.

I love this. The colour of the dial and the design. The movement is the cherry on top. Its beautiful and the equal of its rivals.

I love the blue dial, the contrast to the rose gold is beyond amazing... I'm in love with this watch and the ability to quickly wear it on any one of 3 bracelets! It's my new daily favorite... and at $55K I don't feel like I could have bought another new Porsche 911 had I obtained unlike the Nautilus.

@PorscheCayenneS

Жыл бұрын

Love it too. As prices went down quickly within the last months, with the blue one currently being around 30k (new), I am just waiting for it coming below MSRP as it was in 2020. Then I‘ll buy mine. 👍

@Sams911

Жыл бұрын

@@PorscheCayenneS I don't think we're ever going to see a below MSRP for the blue Overseas ... especially not the rose gold.

@dado380

6 күн бұрын

You’ve seen nothing yet especially in blue dial.Sarb0009 to this day is still the most stunning blue watch ever,I manage to snatch one for 2,5k.

You're right about the Czapek, cool AF

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

I like that one. Czapek just moved into a new building that will enable a huge increase in production, so the Antarctique in all its forms likely will become more available than it is now. Best, Tim

Received this piece Last Week! I am in Love ❤️

This is a stunning watch! Definitely one of my favorites.

This is the first time I noticed collector’s guide series, guess my kids are keeping me really busy :) Anyway, I’m really loving this format, Tim :) Hope more is coming soon! Now to the watch… The VC 4500 is my grail watch, not only because VC’s heritage and history, but look at the dial! It’s the bluest blue I can think of! In the meantime, before I find myself in VC boutique, I’m gonna stick to my SMP300. In blue :)

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

VC and Journe had a joint-venture watch dial factory for years. So yeah, this is a very blue dial... and a very *familiar* blue at that. Best, Tim

Amazing format!

Going Overseas without a passport!

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

I always try to put on a show! These "Guide" videos are designed to be more entertaining than my matter-of-fact 5-minute reviews. Best, Tim

Your videos are most enjoyable! Well done lad!

I recently bought a watch from this company, long story but there was some shipping delays, to make it up to me they sent me a nice bottle of whiskey. Great company to deal with and very personalized service. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for trusting our company - and also for your understanding about the delay. We always try to make right any mistakes that occur. Best, Tim

Was just wondering when we might see another episode in this series! I miss the Wednesday and Saturday watch inventory shows but the Saturday content eases my pain.

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

We're back, and you can expect to see more Collector's Guides on a regular basis. The series was disrupted when part of my production team departed, and some time was required to internally train his replacement. Best, Tim

@BenTramer

Жыл бұрын

​@@the1916companywatchreviews This style of show, the Collector's Guides & Versus, in my opinion, is much better than the Wednesday & Saturday watch inventory dumps. The ~ 4 - 8 minute individual watch reviews are preferred also to the Wednesday & Saturday watch inventory blast.

Wow, how times have changed. My Waiting time for the blue dial was 10 days, back in 2018.

Thanks Tim!

I recently purchased a 2023 4500v blue dial and especially worth it with the 8 year VC warranty!

Great video, all the information you don't fine elsewhere.

Great review and comparisons. As my at-list bought blue dial DJ41 does everything this watch does, my hypothetical Overseas purchase would be the discontinued brown dial, in the midst of a recession, at something close to MSRP.

@Eric_Nielsen

Жыл бұрын

PS not mentioned: the Overseas and the latest Antartique both feature a few millimeters of relief built into their clasps.

Crazy these are going for around $25k now.

Great review. Hacking is a way over-rated feature on a mechanical watch, so the lack of it on the Overseas is irrelevant. (Many Pateks lack hacking too.) What an incredibly beautiful timepiece.

@MrPINKFL0YD

11 ай бұрын

Most can be stopped with the crown easily enough without harm.

Wow!!!, Tim!! My favorite watch!!! I really love that Blue!!

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

I think I'd be forced to make a purchase if we ever stock the brown dial model. It was made from 2016-2018, and it's so rare that I've never even seen one in person. Keep in mind that I've had TWO Philippe Dufour Simplicity pieces and dozens of Gruebel Forseys during the eight years that I've been doing this. All versions of the VC 4500V are awesome. Best, Tim

@Weedandwatches

Жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews brown would be something…. I am going for the 2nd gen black dial Chrono that you have at watchbox!!! Hans is awesome!!! And I’m just a few short weeks from being able to pull the trigger!!! Thanks for all the work you all do at WB Tacos??? Lol

@WatchMeEDC

Жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews Tim - I was fortunate to try on the brown dial in boutique years ago and it’s WONDERFUL! Light does wonderful things on the sunburst dial pattern. However, I’m red/green colorblind so the lacquered blue dial is just amazing to my eyes 😍 also why an FPJ CB is my grail. But IF I were to ever own a second model of the same watch I think it would be the brown dial Overseas 👍🏻

@dado380

6 күн бұрын

You’ve seen nothing yet,to this day Sarb 009 has the most stunning and the most perfect blue dial ever,I snatch one last year for just 2.500€.

Now that they’ve just released a 34.5mm in automatic, this video has me sold!

The blue on that dial is perfect.

Hi Tim, for around the same price, which should I choose ? Overseas blue dial or Traditionnelle complete calendar ?

I really wanted a three hands one for my 40 th birthday, blue was my favorite. But don't ask me why I finally bought a black chronograph 😅 sure it's a bigger watch and black is less popular, and doesn't really get a hype on the secondary market, but once on my wrist that chunkier reverse panda was the only one I wanted. Life is strange sometimes

been on the list with my boutique for about 3 years now.... maybe in a few more years I'll get that call haha.

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

Call around. Particularly if would accept a silver dial, certain boutiques might quote a shorter wait than the one you are using. Richemont is strict about giving priority to boutique customers over "mere" independent AD customers, but the group doesn't seem to care about **which** factory boutique location you patronize. Best, Tim

@jonathanwelke

Жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews Hey Timbo. In Canada there is 1 VC boutique. And they control every single blue dial that goes out within the country. I have considered silver and even the brown. But if I'm going to spend 30 grand on a watch it's going to be the one I really want. To be fair the lovely rep does call me about once a year just to catch up with me and see if I'm still interested, so I do really appreciate that they let me know I haven't been left in the dust.

@dwightmoore3060

Жыл бұрын

That surprises me. I bought mine 2.5 years ago at a VC boutique in Southern California. I walked in cold, no prior relationship. I asked about the 4500V in blue, and they said "give us a couple of days." 4 days later my watch arrived. MSRP, which at the time (late 2019) was $18,900. The astronomic price increases since then have been astonishing. They have dropped significantly since the end of February - almost by 50% from dealers who actually want to move their inventory.

Hi Tim ! Which one would you choose between this 4500V VC vs 5711 PP vs 15202 AP

The holy grail of the Holy Trinity .. VC!

If I had $39,000 to burn, I'd get a Subaru STI and then get a Tissot PRX with anything left over. Love the look of the Overseas, especially the early model in 37mm, but I can't see how it's worth more than say 10k. Maybe stainless steel sports from haute horology houses isn't for me when I'm not truly wealthy.

@Alan1234x

Жыл бұрын

I hear ya. I don’t see $39k of value there.

Tim,I feel the 3rd generation is pure class and is more of a dress watch,I think I’m going to go for the second generation which looks more like a sports watch but has the same fantastic braclet and the JLC movement,thoughts?

Vacheron FTW!!!

The dual time GMT version of this blue model is more interesting, pleasing and fun to look at IMO. The plain dial's simplicity is great but can get boring at times.

Great video, amazing line the overseas - makes for the perfect daily & be sure you're the only one in the room with one! Owner of a 7900V - dual time & also an avid Audi owner lol

Love Vacheron

what is the name of that tube clock in the background? @8:45

I struck up a good conversation with my local VC Boutique employee today and put myself on the waitlist for this watch. The boutique employee said that they received about 12 of these each year and the waiting list was a on a first-come, first served basis. They also said that for every 10 people on the waiting list that they called when inventory arrived, only 1 would actually come in and buy the Overseas. The rest declined. So there’s hope for me yet!

@cjack202003

8 ай бұрын

Thanks

@pjs12464

7 ай бұрын

The newbies are always so gullible

Bought the rose gold overseas with the blue dial in 2021. I put a deposit down and about 6 months later I received the watch. It’s an amazing piece. My only gripe is I wish the blue face was bluer at times. Mostly it feels like it’s black and only when sunlight hits it, does it give you that incredible blue. Also sadly, where I live, it’s too risky to wear in public.

@SimonTemplarDude

Жыл бұрын

Same, it's my pride and joy, I love my overseas

@benmilesbc

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you should move to somewhere safer!

@hahnsmantra7276

7 ай бұрын

That's classic....you bought a 35,000 dollar watch and there's something you wish was better about it.....

@enlilannunaki9064

6 ай бұрын

Let me guess…London? Cloudy and crime.

Tim is always right

Can we have a Vacheron Constantin Overseas 4500 V comparison with 4600 V video ?

A fair question could be “is it the best stainless steel sports watch made at 1/2 and 1/3 the price of a Royal Oak and Nautilus respectively?” More importantly, if you really want one, you can get one new. Visit a boutique, genuinely ask for one, get on that store’s actual list. VC associates have always been friendly and wonderful to deal with. Be patient and one could be yours in a few years brand new. Great vid as always! 🤙🏻

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

This is heartening to read. Prices still reflect a premium above the $22.5K list, but they're coming down. If it's possible to get one at a boutique without bundling, that's great news for the broader collector fraternity. Best, Tim

@jaygrow2207

Жыл бұрын

Surprising to read this! I sure got the GTFO treatment at the Chicago VC boutique a few weeks ago. Very disappointing. I had been hoping to talk watches and express interest in an Overseas for once the market cools. Oh well. Looking forward to an eventual steel 222 and a market adjustment.

@eyeheartsushi2212

Жыл бұрын

Went to the Miami boutique once and they treated me well even though I was just looking. The friendly staff let me try a few watches including the Patrimony.

@WatchMeEDC

Жыл бұрын

@@jaygrow2207 sorry to hear that. The Costa Mesa and NYC flagship stores have been wonderful to buy from and deal with years before becoming a customer. I can’t give enough accolades on excellent service to both Eric and Karen at the South Coast Plaza boutique.

Damn that’s nice

Tim nailed me to a cross. I am both an Audi driver and an overseas daily driver.

@einfussganger

Жыл бұрын

Having owned several Audis, I understand your feeling of crucifixion.

Alright, i have to ask, what is the watch for Alfa drivers?:D

GRAIL!!!!!!!!

It doesn’t have hacking seconds because that can create wear and tear and they want this watch to last 300 years not 100, but it still is such an issue for people who care about utility

@Armoer

Жыл бұрын

Why make a very accurate movement if one can’t set it accurately?

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

I have trouble believing this. Many, many companies have implemented hacking seconds without undue wear and tear to watch movements. Patek made similar claims about wearing parts before admitting that hacking isn't a problem and launching it broadly. Rolex has been making hacking movements for 51 years, and we've never encountered a shaved balance wheel or stripped threading due to a hacking mechanism. Companies that worry about wear on contact components just use a piece of delrin, hair, or rubber for the balance brake. VC didn't put a hacking mechanism in the 5100 solely because Patek didn't have one in the 324 at the time the Overseas III was being designed. Since 2019, Patek has been replacing the 324 with the 26-330, which does include hacking. Best, Tim

@TheNoerdy

Жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews Thanks for the info Tim, I guess you'd know! I'll wait patiently for "Gen 4" of this then, where that is hopefully fixed, along with some better dial options and more modern style. As it is now, it looks a little 70s, but without the charm of the RO or Nautilus. BTW: It's still my grail watch :P

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

@@TheNoerdy Oddly, Vacheron's 2450/2460 family of automatics has had hacking for decades. I'm not sure why the company offers hacking on a bunch of Patrimony and Traditionnelle dress watches but not the Overseas. Best, Tim

I didn’t buy one in 2017-2018 at 16k, wont be paying scalper prices now.

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

According to some of the comments in this thread, you might be able to get one at an AD with a reasonable wait. For real? Who knows. But it's worth a try. Best, Tim

lol, the VC Overseas has long become overpriced on the secondhand market (really in the last 12 months) and VC boutiques have exceptional waitlists. They're only accessible in that the waitlist even exists at all at this point. It's a beautiful watch, but it's long escaped anyone who doesn't currently have a relationship with the brand.

@jpcough6591

Жыл бұрын

They’re coming back to earth on secondary, fortunately. I bought my blue dial 4500v back in 2020, during Covid lockdowns, for under retail. They’re currently sitting at 28-32k new on the wholesale market. Not cheap but not as crazy as it was a few months ago. I’ll never sell mine.

almost the perfect sports watch, just cant believe vc didnt include a hacking movement. Acceptable for a seiko 007, but not at this price-point

Everything about the Overseas collection is heads and shoulders better than the Nautilus and Royal Oak.

Collectively, I love it! But with every watch, one can always see what they would have done and not done differently. And to that, I am no exception. I love the blue and brown dials, the interchangeable bracelet and straps, the box, the case and bracelet shape, etc. Conversely, I’m not fond of the sub-minute indices on a non-chronograph watch. The name “Overseas” implies that it’s a watch for a world traveler. And so why not make the most basic model a four-handed GMT? Replace the sub-minute indexed outer scale with a fixed GMT scale (no need for a bezel to rotate). Even better yet - place screwed down push buttons at 1:30 and 4:30 to adjust the twelve hour hand with. My 2¢ anyways…

No free sprung balance?

Is it still worth to get a overseas gen 2 at current market price ?

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

To buy and keep? Yes. Could it be worth less in two weeks or two months? Yes. It's not going to be worth less than $39K in 2030 or 2035, so buying for the long haul isn't a concern. Day trading watches -- or anything resembling it -- isn't a secure path to profit for most buyers. We have a whole floor of our building where people do nothing but track buy/sell prices from day to day. Most collectors aren't set up to operate like that, so... buy and hold. Best, Tim

@Potatowarrior89

Жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviewswell to keep and wear, come across a gen 2 overseas chrono. Not looking for an investment gains but at the same time don’t wanna lose too much money on it … dilemma of a watch lover

@Hopkidnow

Жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews how can you say with any conviction that the watch will not be less than 39k 8-10 years from now? That’s ridiculous. This is not a good long term investment….there’s plenty of risks of depreciation. Take it back to real times, common sense times, early 2020. How many new watches would you have purchased, that you could say with conviction, would be considerably more expensive in the future? Nobody was even imagining AP Royal Oaks or nautilus models would be higher a decade in the future. And how many new watches from 2010 were being sold for 2x retail in 2020?

Unfortunately the Rolex gives you nothing but tears because you can’t get one at msrp !😭🤣😂

Prices are going up, 40K for a three handed.

Silver dial is the best of Gen III

*$24000

Great watch and thankfully it ain't $39,000 anymore...

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

Right now it's about 37-39 for a blue dial, slightly less for black, and much less for silver. The brown dial is so uncommon that I can't place its current price, but it likely would be close to the blue one. Best, Tim

@bernardolhgc

Жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably must be a duck. Tim, Tim...I know you have a business to run, but spare me the bullshit talk about gray market. It's dealers, like you guys, that have caused the super inflated problem the watch world has been living in recent years. Your modus operandi involves preying on desperate sellers, low ballin' them, hoarding watches and inflating the prices. I'm neither a crypto holder, nor an investor. I'm a real customer and a watch enthusiast.

@watchstorydxb3400

Жыл бұрын

@@bernardolhgc haha I absolutely love this. As someone who paid under retail for the blue dial Overseas approx 3 years ago, the price that it’s currently going out in the market suggests anything but it being overlooked. One thing is for sure, the price of the blue dial Overseas has crashed the most vs the RO and the Nautilus (relative to each watches retail price). So all those dealers who hoarded the Overseas thinking it was going to be the next Nautilus are now sat dick in hand crying over the exposure they have. Queue a very timely video from Tim shepherding clueless watch lovers towards the Overseas in a last ditch effort to offload the hundreds in their inventory. Tim and WatchBox play the “watch lovers” card as if that is truly they’re passion, you’re just a sales guy preying over people with more money than sense. If it’s still in production, don’t go buying over retail unless you’re having sleepless nights, even then, definitely don’t buy at WatchBox prices!!

@bernardolhgc

Жыл бұрын

@@watchstorydxb3400 thank you for a real insight from an ownership perspective opposed to some kind of misguided attempt to convince enthusiasts of an artificially inflated opportunism.

Look its a tissot prx with a blue dial!

I orefer the previous version over the new one, the new version is too bulky and disproportional in my opinion

The Vacheron Constantin is a beautiful and ultra high end haute horology timepiece! At $35,000 it’s a bargain, in comparison to the Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711 and ALange Souhne Odyssey’s, which sell for between $95,000-$120,000 on the grey market! 2 watches, which are totally hideous and under engineered, then the Vacheron is a total bargain! Vacheron is 1,000 times better, than Nautilus and Odyssey’s!

Chinese are particularly love this watch because of the it’s translated Chinese name, “Voyaging in the four seas”, it is an idiom means men should be brave and tough to fight for living. I can tell you, every man love this name.

@chun_ting

Жыл бұрын

@@BobbyDazzler888 haha, don’t you guys worshiping money in capitalism country? We don’t worship anything, we use them, just like we use your.

You could literally buy over 10 Ball engineer ii magneto s es with that money Tim...whats going on with these reviews lately...

I would rather buy a Moser streamliner.

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

Having had a ton of experience with both, I can say with confidence that Vacheron has delivered a better product for the money. But 90% of the decision to buy a watch is driven by the appearance of the watch, so I can understand the appeal of the Streamliner. The CS version in particular is handsome. Best, Tim

@seaweed719

Жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews thanks for your input, Tim :)

Hah, “this is for audi drivers”… i bought one with WB before i saw this and guess what cars we have 😅

Great overview. Mid- 2020, these were available at discount in ADs... Brilliant quality, a sublime dial, but crudely over-branded, too large for any elegance (unless you're The Rock) and complete with Richemont qr strap gimmick, which makes the lugs and bracelet needlessly vulnerable to wear. More of a luxe Datejust than a serious Nautilus or Royal Oak alternative. Wait for a steel 222 re-release.

@the1916companywatchreviews

Жыл бұрын

Consider the VC reference 2000V. Fewer than 100 were built in 2016. Best, Tim

The date numbers doesn't match this sleek fine watch. It looks like it's written with feathered ink on caligraphy paper.

My g shock is 200m tho😀, jus sayin

No hacking...

lol you can just buy this watch with a huge discount brand new on a gray market without buying anything from boutique these guys are so delusional

Spending that much on a steel watch is silly really 😂 lovely looking but not worth the money, same with the offshore and nautilus

@sergezerkin

3 ай бұрын

Money judge ? You do know the price of gold of 120 g that that weight would be like 7 k. But the premium would be like 30 k ?

@thatmexicanguy2989

3 ай бұрын

@@sergezerkin would be crazy if a cheaper metal was be even more expensive wouldn’t it 💀

I would get the Rolex datejust 2 blue dial which is absoloutely perfect.....increases in value and you pocket or save 26000 at least

@KeepingWatchUK

Жыл бұрын

@@stanwilson7040 Problem is you need seriously deep pockets. I’ll stick to being a fool, not done me too bad so far 😉

@KeepingWatchUK

Жыл бұрын

Latest DJ. The bezel & markers on the 2 are too thick imho.

@williamstalvey6920

Жыл бұрын

@@KeepingWatchUK yes u name a valid point....ref the bezel....it does look a tad thick

@garyboyle695

Жыл бұрын

Will increase in value only if you buy at retail and Rolex prices are going down not up

@williamstalvey6920

Жыл бұрын

@@garyboyle695of course, it will go up in value.....see where they were in 2017.....like 7100 ....now pre owned over 10000 Memo> Rolex does not ever lose value!!

No hacking seconds?!?!!?

@WatchMeEDC

Жыл бұрын

This is a weak criticism. Patek Philippe, FP Journe, Philippe Dufour and many other incredibly high quality movements do not hack. It is incredibly violent, especially at that scale and precision, to slam a lever across the escapement to stop the balance wheel. If you want ultimate time keeping precision for referencing against the atomic clock you better save yourself the grief and get a digital Casio or a battery powered quartz. As soon as you set any mechanical watch it will be off by +/- 0-20 seconds every day as well. Thiery Stern once said “if we wanted Patek watches to hack, they would hack.” and if Francois Paul Journe cares more about not disturbing the balance wheel, protecting it from unnecessary shock over its life, I’m perfectly good with other watches not hacking too.

@issaz4958

Жыл бұрын

@@WatchMeEDC Fair enough, makes sense. I guess it's just a personal thing

Prices still crazy and they’ll continue to drop. Even in the mid 30s range, that’s insane for this model. People, don’t think in terms of how much they’ve dropped from an irrational, idiotic top….think in terms of how much it is over retail (22.5k) Easily available just a couple years ago at the vacheron boutique in Beverly Hills. They also had the pink gold chrono overseas for 49k. Just wait guys.

If you're looking for a sports watch I strongly suggest Rolex. Many robust models that can all be had for under 20K retail.

@garyboyle695

Жыл бұрын

Lol, Rolex are very much the poor relation compared to VC.

@papricep6248

Жыл бұрын

@@garyboyle695 No need to be a brand snob. Not everyone can afford VC, your highness.

Nice design and movement, but cmon , these are rich mans watch. Because other than that, how and why would you spend 40 grand on a watch let alone 1 million on a Richard Mille. But people have money toburn.

If VC was not stamped on the dial, you could mistake it with any pedestrian watch in the market. You are just hyping up an otherwise " just another watch". Arguably, the only thing that makes people salivate to these watches are marketing & a name. If you interchange a famous name eg exhange the VC Overseas label to the IWC Ingenier, I would bet people would just be awed by the beauty of the VC ingenier. It's all just hype guys.

Mask wearer....lol

Audi is trash. Audi drivers deserve Invicta watches.

Size, case shape, date and bezel ruin the watch. Just buy the real deal: Rolex OP.

For $39000 you get a movement that has no hacking with finishing lot less than AP or PP? No thanks. I just don't see the value of this VC here, even a Cartier Santos would have been a better watch imo.

Offshores ,Overseas ,Overpriced, Overrated..No watch should be more than 10,000 bucks ..period

@davidr2802

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if only! But why start at $10,000? Way not $1,000?

@the1916companywatchreviews

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This may be the wrong hobby for you if you draw red lines like that. Price outrage is a sliding scale, and plenty of destitute folks in this world would be offended by your notion of a "principled" limit of $10,000 for man jewelry. It's best to realize we're **all** naked emperors in this hobby, grin about it, and not take it all too seriously. Best, Tim

@BenTramer

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@@the1916companywatchreviews Tim is spot on here.

@WatchMeEDC

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@@the1916companywatchreviews Hear! Hear! All things are relative. The community would be so much stronger if we all celebrated the wonders of Seiko 5’s & Swatch Sistem 51’s equally as much as Dufour Simplicity’s & MB&F Legacy Machines. Let’s just appreciate all watches and support one another’s collections (and insanity) 👏🏻🙌🏻👍🏻🤟🏻🤙🏻

@AmunRa2024

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@@the1916companywatchreviews When a Watch is sold for 4X its retail? That's price Gouging, Not watch collecting and 90% of people on KZread cant afford them ,So guess 90% of Us shouldn't be I in this hobby !?👍🏼No that's Snobbery