What is your choice: V-Ray or Corona?

@architect_palwinder_singh

Жыл бұрын

I tested vray vs corona.... corona is best

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

@@architect_palwinder_singh Thanks for sharing! :)

@Particle67

Жыл бұрын

Corona

@Fabio_MCM

Жыл бұрын

Corona here. What do you think about UNREAL?

@strehicabih5246

Жыл бұрын

For stills Corona all the way, Vray for animation - Vray GPU or Vantage

I used Vray for about 12+ years or so. I switched to Corona in 2019 and feel the lighting results are more accurate. I create architectural illustrations as a profession and have done so for the past 20 years now.

@rogerYT69

Жыл бұрын

same for me😉

@ricbattaglia6976

9 ай бұрын

which is faster with same hardware price? thanks

If it's for the client, Unreal Engine anytime because you can compile it as a game and show a real-time interactive demo and setup blueprints/code to make features like doors moving or TV switching on possible. You could even go as far as making a whole configurator in the demo. If it's for analog marketing material like brochures then even Unreal's Pathtracing works well and you can do far more. Archviz is no longer just static images. People don't usually feel the connection when you just show them a render. A real-time demo that you can walk in will allow the client to make better decisions and that means saving time on back and forth and miscommunications.

I prefer vray because there is a vray gpu mode - with a couple of rtx cards, everything renders very fast, especially for animation. Arnold render is also very good. Corona best for single image of interior or exterior scene. Worth mentioning "chaos vantage" - simple and very fast engine (now free).

Vray RTX render is a game changer when it comes to rendering time and quality.

Thank you, fellow Co-Creator. I prefer Corona because of how Realistic it looks like, too. 👍

Chaos Vantage is amazing, and that's why I keep using Vray.

Tbh there's no huge difference between the two, both vray and corona generate similar high quality results, but I will always choose corona over vray for the user friendly interface and easy settings adjustment. This definitely saves me time on my projects and I always prefer working fast.

The result depends on the driver and not the vehicle... Both plugins have reached a very high level and the difference is in the artist who works with them.... You can achieve any result you want if you specialize in one software. I've been working with V-Ray for 15 years and I'm not ready to switch to any other software... I do architecture with it at a very high level and also animations - I don't stop being enthusiastic about it!

@ShubhamSingh63069

5 ай бұрын

Can we make a walkthrough with vray in SketchUp ?

@ShubhamSingh63069

5 ай бұрын

Can we make a walkthrough with vray in SketchUp ?

They both work really really good it's really hard to choose one among this options! 😂 But one thing I know for sure that many people love to use corona!

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing with me, I agree, it's not as simple decision these days. 🙃

I was trying to understand why my interactive render in vray is noisy and not clear, I was awfully perplexed, but thanks to your video it is now clear for me, that I should use Corona render for a better interactive render quality. Thank you.

Thanks, Much needed video!

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

Hello Aga... Yes, it would be great if you do some v-ray gpu and also chaos vantage videos!!!

Vray background image works fine as long as you are rendering on black background. If edge pixels are premultiplied with other color, it won't work.

I know many people migrating from Vray to Corona. I do not know even single person who moved from Corona to Vray. But the future is Unreal Engine.

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

Me too to be honest :) But most of these people switch to Corona when lightmix was available only there. ;) Sure, Unreal Engine is an interesting option as well.

@martinilopez1

Жыл бұрын

that's because corona is for newbies. easy to use, and with lot of less options.. in vray you have to know what you are doing.

@atasafarzadeh7110

Жыл бұрын

@@martinilopez1 In the minds of newbies, complexity equaled professionalism! It's okay to have expired ideas😁 Artificial intelligence and computer-based simulation are here, so heavy coding development in the background is all to enhance quality!

@dendoxosheesh

Жыл бұрын

@@martinilopez1 my words !

@MelbourneArchviz

Жыл бұрын

@Martin Lopez I used vray for TEN years and I switched to Corona after trying it for 5 minutes. I have been freelancing for 25 years. Your logic is flawed.

انتي تقومين بشرح عظيم وانا اتعلم منك الكثير 😊

great video, thanks), I would like to know more about vray, and what do you think about FStormRender?

😊In fact VRAY lightmix Light color It can be used in the color picker recent function Quick use Previously used colors.Thanks for the comparison.

thank you for this explanation

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I have used V-Ray many years, after mine colleague start working on Corona, I switched for Corona since he send me beta. I have it for free from him, but it worth any penny. Its cheaper, faster, better, les noise (and with nvidia denoise amazing results), easier to use than V-Ray for begginers. And since Covid start in 2019, everyone using Corona :D It was free for 2-3 months :D

Thank you 💐))

I am reading about these two render plugins power consumption.

Good job❤❤

in the 1st test both render image pixels are different 424x530 in corona and 804x1005 thats why vray take 45 sec

It would be very interesting to see how it compares V-Ray GPU vs Unreal Engine 5.1 path tracer in render times/quality.

@kyvandieng

Жыл бұрын

i'm afraid that both of the softwares are not that similar for you to compare fairly

@relaxation_ambience

Жыл бұрын

@@kyvandieng It's ok, don't afraid- you are absolutely wrong. What comes to my mind is that either you didn't read what I wrote or you don't know how UE5 "PATH TRACER" works. Indeed you can compare every single renderer who has GPU rendering with UE5 "PATH TRACER" method.

@relaxation_ambience

Жыл бұрын

@@kyvandieng Here you can see V-Ray vs UE5 "path tracer" vs Omniverse, but it wasn't UE5.1: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kZZqrKOCaLanaKQ.html

@nestorkosmoi8841

Жыл бұрын

cannot be compared. both pathtracers ok, but that's not all the software works with. so if you were to compare the same turbocharger on two different cars, the performance will still be different. but from the gut, I think ue5 is faster with lower quality in default, i still have more artifacts and general problems in ue5 than with vray in high quality settings. this makes the workflow slower

@relaxation_ambience

Жыл бұрын

​@@nestorkosmoi8841 You see, you already started to compare- artefacts , slower/faster, workflow :) You talked about turbochargers on 2 different cars, but author of this channel just compared corona and vray :) And what happened ? Nothing, everything was good, we got all info. You can find on youtube where even Fstorm compared with Corona. So that is a real difference, but still can be compared. You can even compare electric car with classic enigine car, but just need to provide all the details and differences. You can compare potato with apple by providing differences etc etc etc :)

Very excellent explanation🥰

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

Glad you think so!

@andreistanis1387

Жыл бұрын

Excellent? ah ah ah ^_^

Great video, in my opinion corona look more friendly for arch viz artists, however both of them achieve the same results...

I prefer Corona because it gives a more clear image of the project from the first seconds with a less noise value and more realistic touches, in addition ,Corona gives significantly greater accuracy to HDRI images, the HDRI image during the first minutes of rendering in Corona was higher quality than the final rendering of V-ray.

I really love corona when it comes to time and results, but with interactive rendering and user interface (especially the new materials) I just straight up HATE it. That's probably the only reason I keep coming back to vray

thank you

I am big fan of you and ur work

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😀

As an interior designer, I will always go with corona.

For still images my favorite is Corona Render, but it has limitations CPU and sky. For animation, video and realitime I study how to move assets to Omniverse, Unreal or Unity. Also Clarisse render may be worth investigating..

@Soluchi-InfiniteCoCreatorGod

Жыл бұрын

Very Interesting. 👍

@Ricardo-de9ju

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, Corona is such a great tool but they are getting into an uphill battle. Animation rendering sucks, tons of flickering, something pathetic. I'm not a Blender user, but once you start to notice how fast Cycles I confess it's time to review some decisions.

Can you please do videos in rendering with Arnold for 3ds Max? Thank you

yes, it's interesting on gpu vray)!

I'm interested about video from Vray GPU, it's decrease a lot the time rendering when it's use with the good setting

Hola, una consulta. Alguien sabe si los cursos están subtitulados? Ya sea subtitulados en español o subtitulados en ingles? Porque hablo español, y si están subtitulados en ingles, los puedo traducir a mi idioma, ya que sería más fácil para comprenderlos. Es para saber si comprarlos. Gracias

@ntivodigital9361

5 ай бұрын

Te recomiendo el curzo de Adan Martin en 3d Colletive que es directamente en Espanol de hecho te recomendaria ver su canal en KZread, con lo que alli tienes, aprenderas mas que lo que aqui se ofrece sin anmo de menospresiar. Ten en cuenta que adan es colaborador directo de Chaos y a optenido el premio de la mejor escuela por tres anos consecutivos

Anyone who watches this video, shall not have a question about which renderer is better. Really nice video as usual. My thoughts are vray will be survived, corona will be left alone to be vanished. They wont develop them at the same time, maybe They will be merged that will be called "v-corona" renderer :) I wont switched to corona, I have learned a lot in vray. Results are a slightly different. If corona was not acquired by Chaos group, I would have a thought that to use the corona.

@manostroulinos1726

Жыл бұрын

I suggest "Verona Renderer", I think it sounds great!!!! 😅

@mehmet.o6318

Жыл бұрын

@@manostroulinos1726 😅😅

@marerubrum

Жыл бұрын

V-Rona

@manostroulinos1726

Жыл бұрын

@@marerubrum 😅

@rajendrameena150

Жыл бұрын

I think Co-ray and v-rona sounds ok...😃 Apart from this I think now they are targeting archviz artist by corona and rest 3d animation people for vray. Because by the way they are reducing many corona options and making it straight forward for architecture/photorealistic purpose indicates how it is going, even now roughness and reflection options are merged. The more useful archviz materials like copper, plastic, fabric etc have presets because interior designer don't learn about all the shader settings they just want result in a few clicks. However maybe in near future only one software left as developing and bug fixing takes lot of time, but I think big companies tries to seperate each segment of users so that they can earn more profit. We can see that Maya and max are very similar, same with photoshop and illustrator. After effects and premier pro, adobe audition. A single software Davinci resolve can make all video related task but adobe release seperate for video editing, compositing, color grading, sound design. Also Blender is fully capable of 3d design but we can see no of products by Autodesk. Actually this affects the individual artist very badly because he has to pay and learn each software, the hotkeys and mouse controls are different. Seperate scripts and add-ons for each software. Even time consuming task of switching one model to another software and for Godsake that monthly payment is a pain specially if in your country where 85 units of money equals 1 dollar and you are still a learner who cannot afford to pay for such software then only one option left 'pirate the software'. But story don't end here.

Can anyone tell me experience with this business course from Arch Viz Artist? do you recommend it?

You said that Corona is more suitable for interior designs, and I am an architect, and I have not used either of them before. Should I start with Corona or go to unreal?

Hi, what are the requirements for computers should I have ?

both are great. it deppends on what hardware do we have. vray GPU is really good and fast.

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! 😀

Can anyone share experience about the business course? Is it worth buying?

Nice video. In Corona/Vray battles always wins Redshift ^)

@slon5228

Жыл бұрын

Or Octane!

If you have tried Vantage V ray still the best

Niceee

I think Corona is better, but it is hard to compare, because Corona is unbiased and Vray is biased renderer. If you want use GPU renderer I recommend Fstorm render, although it has slower development. But it is almost so easy as Corona to use.

ok but in rendertime, which is faster? Corona with a 2000dollars cpu or Vray with a 2000dollars gpu with raytrace? Thanks! Bye.

The important thing that was forgotten is that sketchup does not support corona, I'm sorry for that :///

For many years I worked with 3DS Max and Blender, with V-Ray. I first stopped 3DS Max in 2015 for two reasons: paying 2000 euros per year is too expensive and crazy, then 3DS Max with submenus, too complicated and not very friendly as software. In 2015 I moved from a PC to a Mac Pro replacing 3DS Max to Cinema 4D and in 2016 with V-Ray. V-Ray + C4D untill 2021 using the lights was too long for a result. then I switched to Corona render in 2022. The difference is the lights for a quick result and quality. I work for real estates and architects. Architectural projects need to be done quickly and Corona render can be slow. Fortunately I went from a Mac Pro to a very powerful Mac Studio, but Corona works with CPU and the animations are sucks (I use Twinmotion for animations not Corona which takes 30mn for a render from Mac Studio with GPU). I'm trying V-Ray now to see if I stay with Corona render with a new license again or switch back to V-Ray. V-Ray on the other hand doesn't have grass like on Corona with Chaos scatter on a precise surface, and that's a real shame, but it uses the GPU, and my Mac Studio has 64 GPU cores. Putting grass with Corona is very simple and effective, but V-Ray, I don't see how to do it... (?)

Hello, I am new to the 3ds max, I watch few of your tutorial, it help me lot, I am using corona render, and created few scene like environment and building, but it's not look real, the building color and environment all look fake, do you have any suggestion.

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

Keep going and watch more of my videos, not just a few :D

@haris8462

Жыл бұрын

Ok👍

@punithaiu

Жыл бұрын

the renderer doesn't create the realism. its the lighting and materials along with well modelled objects.. a scene with improper lighting and shitty materials will still look crappy, no matter how much high resolution or what renderer you render in. so, learn about natural lighting, making procedural shaders and PBR materials using PBR maps. observe the real world, how spaces are illuminated, how shadows look at different light distances and intensity. the trick to achieve photo realis is just to copy nature itself.

@haris8462

Жыл бұрын

@@punithaiu I got your point, thank you.

Если у вас процессор Alder Lake, то вам не выбирать. Нужно ставить последнюю версию движка.

hello, go go VRay GPU test. For example: VRay GPU vs Vray CPU and VRay GPU vs Corona 9

ive grown in Vray... but I prefer to keep it simple and try to enjoy my life outside of visualizing so- Corona all the way!

RTX 4090 + VRay + Vantage = unbeatable!

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

Sounds really good! Thanks for sharing! ;)

@GMelo1400

Жыл бұрын

Corona > VRay

Irradiance map is not an option for me, since I always use crypto mattes and it only works with brute force. Also in the Lightmix, the colors are stored so you actually can copy the colors between the lights and if you use the lights with crypto matte you can exclude objects directly in vfb, as opposed to exclude list in the light itself. It's true about Corona having a better quality but for me the render times are priority, and also the resource consumption is much higher in Corona and its built in tone mapping is great, I wish vray could have that. Regards.

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this in-depth thoughts! :) As I love lightimx, irradiance map is not really an option for me neither anymore! ;)

@trkfran

Жыл бұрын

If your priority is render time I think you should try Redshift. I was working on corona before and the speed gain is just crazy, and quality is nice enough for most of my work.

@arq.alfonsowitz1593

Жыл бұрын

@@trkfran I'll try it someday when the workload descends, which seems to be like a never ending cycle for now lol. Apart from the render times though, V-Ray has a lot of tools which I find indispensable now. The cryptomatte workflow, lightmix, composite in fbuffer, chaos cosmos with libraries and materials, most of the 3d libraries out there come in v-ray format, etc. just that alone, the libraries, if i'd have to convert all the materials of an object to redshift, that would greatly affect the process time. Apart from the render time, there is also the pipeline process time in my case. Regards.

Can I work in vray and in the end convert the scene and just render it in corona? Do you have experience with pipelines like this?

@igorthelight

7 ай бұрын

Both Corona and Vray are RENDERERS, not 3D modelling software ;-)

Hey. Which corona version is for max24

V-RAY THUMBS UP👍

Corona is the best option for beginner to export, every easy to understand, I love corona 😊

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Try Arnold Render too.

I'm sticked to Vray because of the gpu render which is extremely fast especially in high end gpus such RTX3090, but I believe the future is unreal engine it's getting better and better, real time rendering and enormous free libraries from mega scan, the future so bright for infinite possibilities...

@abdelhakkhalil7684

Жыл бұрын

"55 min of rendering is pretty much a good result" and this to get a single image with denoiser, and you think unreal engine, which is a real-time engine, is the future? Kindly know that a game engine is not a path tracer.

@robertdouble559

Жыл бұрын

@@abdelhakkhalil7684 UE has path tracing as an option too, and it's very, very good.

@robertdouble559

Жыл бұрын

@@abdelhakkhalil7684 kzread.info/dash/bejne/immuuMqcZcTOnJM.html check it out.

@abdelhakkhalil7684

Жыл бұрын

@@robertdouble559 I know that, but the mechanics of a game engine is totally different from a proper path tracer.

Which one should i go for the walkthrough of 5 Minutes? Vray or Corona?

I used to use both, then I changed to Blender and Cycles, now I'm free of the Chaos empire...

@ibamarcel4577

Жыл бұрын

as a person who makes archviz visualizations, I have seen many visualizations made in vray or corona, which were worse than my ones made in blender and cycles. It depends on experience. cycles may not be equal to the best renders in vray or corona, but it can be equal against 90 percent of corona and vray users because they're not good enough

Hi, Can you please make proper video for animation in corona render like camera ,render settings and lighting so I'll be helpful for me or us 🙏 and thanks for this lovely comparison 🔥

interior simply corona .. V Ray for exterior in my opinion

Arch Viz Artist is my crush tho.

vray of course since always,, and forever

Anyone notice the Google tag because "Corona" was mentioned? They can't even get their bots right😂. I hope it doesn't affect the video cuz I learned a lot, as someone trying to learn V-ray, even now that I see Corona is better.

This video about 3DsMax (Corona and Vray), not Blender (Eeve or Cycles).. people getting confused..

Corona ftw 😎

So ma'am which is solid to use for 3ds max corona or Vray ?

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

Both are great, watch the video and decide for yourself :)

use both, if I have to spend my own money, V-Ray

CORONA THUMBS UP👍

ı used Vray because its more realistic

Corona needs to add GPU Rendering!

Hi! Your first test is unfair ( 500px Render with Corona vs 1000px Render with Vray ) :D

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

Good point, but on the other hand the size on the screen is the same, so it's a good option in Corona when you use 4K monitor.

Corona for sure! Easier and faster on CPU! The results are better without doing much! And I use C4D and it comes with Corona Scatter! There is no Scatter on V-Ray for C4D yet!

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your view!

Redshift !

V-Ray best high quality and speed allrounder

👀💎

Please compare GPU engine Vray

I use both, speed and normal quality… Vray, high quality… Corona I am searching for ways to speed up Corona now…

Did you use blender 3d software mam?

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

No, I didn't. Maybe one day I will test it :)

@imaginaryash1807

Жыл бұрын

Valid point... Cycle x is soo good with amazing denoiser i wont open vray anymore

@Ricardo-de9ju

Жыл бұрын

​@@imaginaryash1807 The only shit is the User interface, I really hope they improve it making things more organized. That is the only reason why I didn't switch to Blender yet. Also Addons is a pain in the neck, everything you wanna do you have to search for a fucking addon. Why not to compile the package.

@imaginaryash1807

Жыл бұрын

@@Ricardo-de9ju actually when i wanted to leave 3Dmax i intended to go for C4D as motion designer seemed liked the only and best option but i hated C4D interface soo much did not make any sense to me even for simple navigation and most ppl say C4D is very user friendly and easy to learn but it was not for me at all so tried blender and made the donut and the UI felt right and fast to navigate around. All 3D softwares are good tools imo you just chose the one that makes sense to you and feels right to use to create what you want.

CORONA NO DOUBT.

Please upgrade ram or processor it's too old now if u want good render mail it to me

V-ray looks way more natural to me.

Architecture render : V-Ray or Corona?

only v ray 6 brings blur when you add noise. V-ray 5.2 not !

I choose corona render

or ue5?

Real-time when.? Like unreal engine …

V-ray is best renderer for tree scenes. Its deep scattering light make the scene look very dreamy and fanciful. Corona is not beautiful like that, its contrast is ugly for tree scenes. And You know all about that. About the other scenes, The mood from V-ray is also absolutely much better than Corona. V-ray have best contrast balance than Corona. Corona contrast is too crude. You also know that. Don't let the fangirl blindness beat you. ;)

@cansahin5567

11 ай бұрын

What a beautiful explanation. I'm using vray for almost 5 years and vray next is awesome but i always see that people use Corona and praise it. So i'm thinking about switching to Corona. I just can't be sure. They say that corona is much more noisy and there is denoiser in vray. Also there are endless passes in corona. How is it fast if there are so many passes and noises ?

@suppybirdkingdom1770

11 ай бұрын

@@cansahin5567 V-ray is improved better via every single new release than Corona. Corona development is quite slow now. V-ray have much better new multi-scatter volume rendering. for cloud rendering, V-ray volume VDB rendering is 2th rate about speed and quality on the market, only behind 3Delight. For Explosion, V-ray volume VDB rendering is also 2th rate about quality, only behind Arnold render and Renderman. V-ray has much better speed than Corona. V--ray has much better Refraction than Corona The poor things on both V-ray and Corona are Subsurface scattering and hair, which Arnold gives the best result. Corona has best Caustic, beside Renderman and Keyshot. But v-ray is improving it.

Redshift

Corona its the best ;)

Oh! Can you be so kind, do a video with render in Vray(GPU) with a settings?

@ArchVizArtist

Жыл бұрын

Sure thing, I am working on GPU video right now :)

@user-rz1td2om7y

Жыл бұрын

@@ArchVizArtist Thank you very much!!! It is a double like from me!

I love Corona.😅

Corona is much better then vray....fast and easy to use..but i want to add something here which i've experinced few days ago....corona 9 have color bleed issue ..dosent matter if u r doing interior or exterior..developers should fix this problem...cuzz earlier version of corona dosent had such problem while rendering....if anyone else have experinced the same like me with corona 9 plzz comment here.....and im not agree with statement like corona is best for interiors 3d presentation only...nahhh...i love working with corona for exterior projects and honestly telling ya its damnnn awesome results... anyway corona is "THE BEST"....

@Ricardo-de9ju

Жыл бұрын

describe what is color blending, how can we reproduce it?

@SANRELIC

Жыл бұрын

@@Ricardo-de9jui said color bleeding not blending....dont u feel the difference?.. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ppmtm7qqlZDce6g.html

@Ricardo-de9ju

Жыл бұрын

@@SANRELIC sorry, I meant bleeding. My bad

Arnold. 😄

@zdenekburian1366

Жыл бұрын

how hard is the transition from corona to arnold? what is the best way to learn it? and the main differences with corona in quality for archviz? thank you vieew3d

I love Corona and V-ray but hate 3ds Max. 😅 I find it so clunky

@brunobordini7696

Жыл бұрын

Go to C4D! Like I did!

@imaginaryash1807

Жыл бұрын

I switched to blender after using max for 20 years. Max is soo heavy and slow

@brunobordini7696

Жыл бұрын

@@imaginaryash1807 Indeed! Blender and C4D are very fast to open! Blender is like 3 seconds and C4D is like 6 seconds on my PC!

@imaginaryash1807

Жыл бұрын

@@brunobordini7696 yeah c4d is also good... Max just feels like a dianosour now days.

@brunobordini7696

Жыл бұрын

@@imaginaryash1807 Yes! The only tool I miss from Max is the ez 3d snapping and smart extrude!