She lied to Parliament under oath..

@andrewprockter1730

3 ай бұрын

That's the criminality!

@24321619

3 ай бұрын

Sounds like Contempt of Parliament

@marksavage1108

3 ай бұрын

@@andrewprockter1730 Thats perjury, a minor crime in comparison to her ``conspiring to pervert the course of justice 780 times``

@andydudley1775

3 ай бұрын

thats not a big crime it happens daily at pm questions .

@sparking2016

3 ай бұрын

@@andydudley1775 PM questions is weekly

It was NOT negligence, she conspired to pervert the course of justice.

@andydudley1775

2 ай бұрын

conspired thats a good one know one else remember's

@marksavage1108

2 ай бұрын

@@andydudley1775 one know one????

This woman purported to be a Christian. She acted more like a tinpot dictator.

@stevenclarke5606

3 ай бұрын

The Hypocrisy to stand up in church on Sunday Morning and preach the gospel

@user-bl8zw4ol1j

2 ай бұрын

Not only did she disgrace herself and the church she still has a SMUG smile on her face may God forgive her because a lot of people will never forgive the way she has ruined their lives she should be locked up and the key thrown away

@chris-4566

2 ай бұрын

@@stevenclarke5606It’s ok because she can go to church confessions and be absolved of her sins. So, she’s squeaky clean again.

@kathykay9920

2 ай бұрын

Jail time

@andydudley1775

2 ай бұрын

i that not still a Christian.

None of the crooks in the so called establishment ever face any accountability about anything They normally just stroll off into the sunset with a pocket full of taxpayers money🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

@andrewmcgonagle6290

3 ай бұрын

Not this time I think.

@michaelmcginley7930

3 ай бұрын

​@@andrewmcgonagle6290wrong she will not be jailed thats only for the small people.first statement is true.of we had an egual justice system she should be jailed

@marksavage1108

3 ай бұрын

archer didnt, the MPs expenses, 4 served time, labours postal voting fraud seen 5 go down.

@andydudley1775

3 ай бұрын

YT took more actions baiting our reactions.

@user-vs5kg2ue3w

3 ай бұрын

I'll believe it when I see it

I disagree with this. The CEO is legally responsible for telling the truth which she did not and it is frauduelnt to do what she did. Both are crimimal acts.

Not negligent but pure wilful blindness. Vennells didn't WANT to know because a she knew it would be a cataclysmic explosion that would ruin her career, no matter how she handled it. She needs to go to jail.

@bottleneck4593

2 ай бұрын

Of course it’s negligent. She took the job and the salary knowing she was out of her depth. From the first interview with her you could see she was winging it. Her performance in front of the committee was dishonest. There must be repercussions to stop others doing the same thing. If there are not repercussions then we will have more of the same.

@andersonomo597

2 ай бұрын

@@bottleneck4593Dishonest and calculatingly manipulative, telling bald faced lies and daring the committee to call those lies out which conveniently muddies the waters. This is evil on steroids from an Anglican priest. Bloody shallow hypocrite. I have immeasurable distain for her.

@kathykay9920

2 ай бұрын

Total negligence. She should be in prison

@JMLE1949

2 ай бұрын

Equality of Outcome, inept people being appointed - simple.

@janeday9148

2 ай бұрын

I think it was simple greed huge salary & bonus boosted by profits & did profits include money paid by Victims

She needs to be charged with treason- it’s a national disgrace.

People SUFFERED Greatly, and Still are! They lost their livelihoods, many became sick from the Stress! Utterly Reprehensible! This is Deplorable! 😮

@tomsimmonds534

3 ай бұрын

Some even died

@stevenclarke5606

3 ай бұрын

Some took their own lives, Paula Vennells, committed Perjury and should be charged with manslaughter , she was the CEO, she is accountable.

@keegan773

3 ай бұрын

Don’t forget the four suicides.

@stevenclarke5606

3 ай бұрын

@@keegan773 that makes it Manslaughter

@keegan773

3 ай бұрын

@@stevenclarke5606 that’s a decision for someone more qualified than I am.

I'm just waiting to hear that Vennells has developed a chronic disease claims to be unfit to take the stand.

@tightcamper

3 ай бұрын

Or suffering the most awful amnesia.

@hittitecharioteer

3 ай бұрын

Huw Edwards Syndrome.

@HereIam-rg3vy

3 ай бұрын

Agreed,that will happen without doubt

@tightcamper

3 ай бұрын

@@HereIam-rg3vy A lot of these witnisses have to tread very carefully indeed. Ruined reputations and time in jail is a now distinct possibility.

@marksavage1108

3 ай бұрын

@@tightcamper the ``nicols sturgeon`` syndrome,,,, "I cannot recall" tourettes.

An absolute disgrace to the nation. Shameless is too good a word to describe them.

Lying, deception, ineptitude, negligence - what else do you expect from a devout Christian?

It was NOT negligence it was deliberate.

All shortfalls that all subpostmasters have paid need to be given back emmediatly

@andydudley1775

3 ай бұрын

it went onto puala's pocket .

She Lied 100%.......

Not negligence a massive cover up by everybody inc government

@ukdave57

3 ай бұрын

Agree, government are just as involved, the sleaze goes on.

@laurieharper1526

3 ай бұрын

Yup. Negligence is a euphemism in this (and many other) cases.

@v4panigale26

3 ай бұрын

Liberal Democrat’s

If she mentions her bullshit faith during testimony I will fucking scream.

@marksavage1108

3 ай бұрын

Bearing false witness should shut her faith up.

@stevenclarke5606

2 ай бұрын

Thou Shall Not LIE

Given the nature of this woman, she should probably be in prison. She should certainly not still be in Holy Orders. The Church of England needs to take a stand.

Sorry don’t buy the negligence argument. Seeing hundreds of people being prosecuted Vennals would inevitably have asked further questions. If she didn’t, that goes beyond negligence.

She will do time for sure,she will be prosecuted

@jdizzle1779

3 ай бұрын

Certainly hope so but time will tell. Slippery slimy bunch whenever you get to MP or CEO level

@simoncoleman5408

3 ай бұрын

Don't bank on it! The police had evidence back in 2019.

@davidrenton

2 ай бұрын

you are more optmistic than me on this, be nice if they did

The ranks will be closed, the white will be washed, business as usual... And the beat goes on...🎼🎶

She, and her Board colleagues, would be well in to a lengthy jail term if this was in the US. What is it with this country when it comes to white collar crime..................we are utterly useless at bringing people like her to justice.

Of course she knew, it would be naïve to think she didn't. I hope she does get at least a 4 year in prison term for perverting the cause of justice, and causing SIGNIFICANT harm!

My question is, WHERE IS THE MONEY?

@user-yj2od2od8m

3 ай бұрын

Totally agree with you it’s amazing how nobody is asking that question

@Philcopson

3 ай бұрын

What money? There is no "missing money" - it's software faults. Do try to keep up...

@childofthe50s53

3 ай бұрын

Was included in Post Office profifs.

@marksavage1108

3 ай бұрын

@@Philcopson The ``missing money`` HAD TO BE PAID BACK they turned a fantasy manufactured debt into real cash stolen from the postmasters, Do try to keep up. OH REALLY software faults???? it was a backdoor, so that was programmed into the system, so NO software fault at all,,, Do try to keep up eh.

@nalanosbod1

2 ай бұрын

Horizon employees remotely stole it.

What happened to the serious amount of money that was hacked? It must be somewhere. Who has it? Employees of Fujitsu? Executives of the Post Office?This needs to go to the next phase.

@joerudnik9290

Ай бұрын

Bonuses.

Ms Vennells earned £5.1m during her time at the helm of the Post Office, peaking at £718,300 in 2018. That year her base salary was £253,800 and she earned £390,800 in bonuses (plus pensions and other benefits).

No way is this negligence. The best interpretation one could put on her continued wilful denials is that the job was just too much for her limited intellect which persuaded her to follow the horrendous path she did destroying so many innocent lives in order to protect what is now a brand hated with a passion.

She also authorized the huge legal costs to prosecute the subpostmasters and defend Horizon.

All those who have lied and been involved in the cover up should be charged with criminal conspiracy at least. The conduct of ministers involved failed their duty of care at least.

Evil. Pure evil.

We need to see Post Office executives doing jail time for this and heavy compensation for their victims and the families of lost victims.

Ed Davey ,Vince Cable Cameron & the Government all have a part to play in this horror

Pure evil at the centre of the Church, she is an Anglican Priest too an absolute liar and putting those poor Post Office workers in jail… she should be jailed immediately!

She probably got the job over a Home Counties dinner party agreement - as her kids were grown up and left the nest and she was ‘bored’, so one of the established establishment social group ‘got her in’. A win-win little job for her: high prestisge, megamoney+copious bonuses…and the chance of a serious title and house of lords seat eventually. Totally unqualified and inexperienced of course….. but what did that matter ?

Vennells must have known when hiring £100 million pounds on expensive lawyers to fob of Victims.

🤷🏻‍♀️why are postmasters still being harassed? WTF is up with that?

Misconduct in a public office may well catch a lot of reckless top PO managers / directors / executives.

The guilty have got away with it for far too long it's now the time to be accountable for what they've done and did

"What is wrong in this country is that we never put the boss class in jail." That is indeed why these atrocious things (same with the banking crisis) will keep happening in Britain, until indeed they start doing that, and not allow the shysters class to bestow an implicit amnesty to the boss class with which they are in cahoots.

Arrest her for gods sake.

Paula for prison forever 😊

Jail her

What i dont get is David Davis MP said on Tv about the access to the horizon system by updating , he said you got to have access to the system to update any computor software , why was this not acted upon then ??

Scary to think that governments put so much trust in technology and that there are so few checks. Not just smart meters in the home but self drive cars, the banking system etc etc.

@joerudnik9290

Ай бұрын

If this is the way the British government acts, can you imagine what Chinese cars will bring to your island? I guess you have Chinese buses already. They’ll remotely hack your car and demand ransom!!!

And jail she will go, all proceeds of her crimes should be recovered and given to charity….

Nothing to do with being negligent and everything to do with being a criminal.

These people need to go to prison for the total amount of time, all the wrongly convicted did.

She should be locked up!

There are a lot of 'utterly negligent chief executives' in the public sector.The question is how do these individuals get to be in such a position? People like Alison Rose,Paula Vennells et al aren't fit and competent to do the job.These are the ones we know about,how many useless NHS Trust chief executives are there on six figure salaries and bonuses?

Vennells has had months and months of counselling from her Lawyers ' while this charade is being played out'

@user-kb4uz3cz7q

3 ай бұрын

A plea of amnesia is another option, and well documented in previous stages of this enquiry.

Vennells committed perjury which is a criminal offence

Jail here and staf who new the truth they put inocent people in jail ffs thats a crime as well as all the lies shes told

With all the brilliant PO investigators (interrogators) & lawyers not one of them produced any evidence of where the supposed stolen money went. Surely if money is stolen the idea is you investigate & determine where the money ended up. Seems to me just logic or common sense that appears to be absent throughout all this fiasco. Horizon was indicating losses in the accounts but no one thought we need to find out where those losses are going.

CEO Vennells should have asked this question - How can my Human Resources Department be so incompetent that they recruit 900 SPMs who are all thieves ?

@Lynnefromlyn

2 ай бұрын

There were many more than the 900 we know about. At least 1200

In politics they say something like: ‘it’s not the issue, its the cover up.’

haha why is she not charged and why do they leave so many innocent people in prison despite knowing they are innocent......uk justice is at an all time low.

@MicheleLLOYD-bk2mt

3 ай бұрын

It was always a sham. Always.

Probably get away with it connections in high places get her off

@marksavage1108

3 ай бұрын

Not 780 `conspiracy to pervert the course of justice` charges, King Adulterer couldn't get her off this.

If sub-postmasters were stealing or whether they lost the money accidentally it did not matter because they all signed a contract which said they had to make up any shortfalls at the till. So they were only robbing themselves and therefore it was pointless to do so. That should have made the bosses realise that something had gone wrong with the system. It’s a shame that the bosses have been traumatised into amnesia but if their memories are so bad, they won’t notice that their homes have shrunk to the size of an 8x4 prison cell.

The outcome of EQUALITY OF OUTCOME when appointing people to positions of Power = Inept CEO's etc. Recent events have highlighted the rise of inept CEO's / Managers!

She needs to stand trial for what she did many people have suffered terrible consequences because of the cover up justice needs to be done.

when will she be arrested?

But..... but..... believe all women.

Jail.

Why have the Police not taken some small action about this and start Project.. POSTMAN!!

Or they directly manipulated the accounts to prove their point.

Send her to jail

Mr. Cratchit, meet Mr. Scrooge. Doesn't sound as if things have changed much since the good old days of British Management 101!

Get the money back don’t worry about anything else take all bounce

Negligence? More like knowing that the IT system was flawed and still sitting back while post masters were losing their livelihoods and some even went to prison. That’s criminal negligence but the fact is she must have known the Horizon system was defective but kept quiet while the lives of scores of postmasters were ruined. The only proper way in dealing with her is to be arrested, and charged with extreme criminal negligence.

Do they also alter the course of Premium Bonds and the lottery - it’s been done before?

Why public enquiry and not police interview

A good Captain knows his crew and ship ……..Vennells has got blood on her unholy hands.

tel you what i had the same in A till .in a fast food store in ayrshie the Tills dont add up

vennells reminds me of a furless rat

@michaelbyrne1954

3 ай бұрын

You are doing the rat an injustice. 😂

@grahamjohndavis

3 ай бұрын

Yep. A Naked Mole Rat. If you look them up it’s uncanny. Apparently they are lovely communal little critters that look after each other so the resemblance to vennalls is purely superficial.

@ProffAndy

3 ай бұрын

I said this ages ago. I know you shouldn't udge a book by it's cover, but in this case her behaviour complements her appearance.

@TallBoy-vf3tt

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

Still waiting for someone to have their collar felt ,despite all the evidence

Bs she's a liar errors people went to prison do you actually know what an experience that is for an inocent person .they should be jailed

It's actually disgusting....so convinced they were that sub-postmasters were stealing from them, the Post Office brought in a system that ended up with the sub-postmasters being robbed of everything...and they didn't once think that maybe themselves are wrong

The victims whose lives she ruined should issue a class action ,its pretty obvious that the politicians don't care ,or this bullshit would have been sorted out years ago 😠😕

Who sponsored the studio? ALDI?

Very sad person

Disgraceful!! When are the prosecutions going to start and when are Fujitsu going to pay!! Oh of course they are still given hundreds of Government contracts! Crazy!

If I did it, I'd have been imprisoned long ago..

And how much was she paid in bonuses??

What is still unclear to me is the purpose of the remote access to the system. Was there actually money missing from the sub Post offices or was it only according to the Horizon system? It is clear to me that the Postmasters were treated horribly, but was there actually any money dissapearing into thin air?

There is no negligence in this case , pure lies and deceit this woman should have already been arrested,I’d say at least 20 yrs.

Alan Bates said that he was told when he took on the role of sub postmaster that it was a 'partnership' between him and the post office, when in reality the post office was the boss and the sub postmaster was an employee just like in any other job. Everyone who tried to cover this up assumed that it would all go quietly into the distance and no one would ever find out. That is one thing about this country, we have some of the very best investigative journalists anywhere, and if they smell a rat they are on it like maggots on a corpse.

That woman has ridiculous hair.

The preconception that PO had that they were being ripped off by some Post Masters and that Horizon would find those Post Masters out is pivotal to explaining some of the POs otherwise odd behaviour. The shame is that there probably were some that were ripping them off but that Horizon was so unreliable that it uncovered the wrong Post Masters and if it did by chance uncover some of the right ones it's unreliability means its impossible to tell good from bad and even if it could, it can no longer be relied upon as evidence in court because it's so unreliable.

It's awefull what happened to these people

It is small wonder she has a big grin when she is raking in vast amounts of taxpayer money but now I hope she is sued for every penny of it . She won't need much money in prison anyway .

Not maybe. She did know!

Fujitsu covert operations team I wonder how many of them are still employed at bracknell If so what are they up to now Bracknell must be a really stressful place to work The media the public the politicians all watching fujitsu At bracknell Who can fujitsu staff trust Will their colleagues blag them in Can the staff trust their managers All of those secrets that have to be kept And then they all have to deal with their own personal conscience Innocent people going to jail

All software contains errors so the engineers have ways of correcting them. She was saving the company and protecting the brand.

She is guilty of in competence and must be prosecuted for CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE resulting in SUICIDE. She's being paid in excess of 4 plus million pounds P.A.

3:54 correct, the former CEO’s lack of inquisitiveness is astounding, unless it was deliberate. The fact that the POL CEO didn’t seem to hold anyone accountable for appointing all these ‘thieving’ SPM is also astounding. Apart from the harm to SPM, their actions has resulted in any actual fraud or theft has now been covered up and/or made undetectable by the POL and this alone should put the former CEO and other executives and managers in jail/gaol. If you ad into this the POL’s failure to properly comply with the criminal law, properly promulgate governance etc amounts to a failure of management, and should also result in them being held accountable in some way either criminally or civilly.

RUBBISH! No negligence ot was fraud and depravity and theft. She knew!

I say prison! Or failing that no pension and a retirement spent in a two up two down!

Where the criminality came into it from her perspective is when she perverted the course of justice and lying under oath which amounts to perjury carrying a custodial sentence

Some of these postmasters are still convicted criminals....they should not be allowed any compensation until and IF these criminals convictions are overturned

Jail time plus pay up the cost of her criminal activity. If the sub posties go to jail for being innocent these weazels need to be bankrupted and jailed. When innocent people are jailed bankrupted. Why should the taxpayer pick up the bill for the coverup.

Uk to koniec Robi mi się niedobrze jak ja widzę i słyszę Czy nie ma nikogo kto by to posprzatal? Na co czekaja ?