Yes, after such motivational videos, Harman repair services will not be left without work)) you should take into account what you used at low volume, but people don’t think with their heads. they’ll connect it to 2-3 Ohms and they’ll load up the power)) and then there will be sadness)))) and also the timbres there, the loudness in general will be a blast... after all, of all those who own the equipment, only a few percent understand how to use it, what influences what, the rest are just playing roulette...

Interesting experiment. Nice work

Great video, thanks for making this. Nice explanation.

Absolutely love CV stereo speakers

Thanks. Im trying to come up with a setup that works

I did that once. With kenwood, denon and even carver. The C-V's sounded much better with a nakamichi PA-7. The bass was vastly improved vs an AVR or integrated.

I run my 8inch series 20 on an aiyima. sound's great!

Do you think a Phase Linear 400 Series II power amp would work with a pair of D9's? Thanks for your advice.

Interesting. I have Xls 12's and I had them on a Denon X3700 H AVR. It ran them ok. But I could tell it was stressing the AVR . The XLS 12's are a 6 ohm load and the AVR was spec down to 4 ohms, but it was getting really hot and I could hear a lot of distortion especially at higher volumes. But the AVR has pre-outs so I got me a Crown XLi 1500. Made all the difference in the world. Anyways cool video!

@SavingVegas

Жыл бұрын

That crown 1500 is probably the best dollar per watt amp you could get if you only need to run one set of speakers. Under-rated for its power output and should have lots of headroom for those 12s.

@Doomfearkeeper

Жыл бұрын

@@SavingVegas Yeah it is. Powers them with no problem what so ever. I have an entire 5 channel setup all XLS model speakers, the 12's, 6C center, a pair of 6S surrounds. The center and surrounds are powered by an Emotiva BasX A3, 3 channel power amp. And to round things out I have a pair of SvS PB 3000 subs.

@user-hf4eh2ts3q

Жыл бұрын

@@SavingVegas YES! I NEED TO GET ONE

ok off of my avr i have all small book-shelve speakers and center i also have 2 amplifiers hook up to my preouts to power my Vegas twin 15s and my subwoofer the 15s are too demanding for the avr so the 1000w qsc amp does the job well

Theres a name from the past, A good friend of mines father used to make a lot of there equipment back in the day

AV receivers are good for movies...but for music i dont recomend...there is a big difference in sound quality...the dedicated amplifier is better,better,better.

@Durkhead

6 ай бұрын

Thats not true my dad had a yamaha surround receiver and it sounded amazing with music

@GREENTICKETRO

6 ай бұрын

@@Durkhead Try a real sterreo amplifier...We talk after...the receiver most of are class D...TRY a class A or A/B...Reciever=MOVIES

@Durkhead

6 ай бұрын

@GREENTICKETRO hardly any home theater receivers are class d that's why their still so big, most are class a/b you don't know what your talking about. There's more dedicated class d amplifiers than class a/b

@GREENTICKETRO

6 ай бұрын

@@Durkhead I know,you dont know.Lets stop here...

@Durkhead

6 ай бұрын

@GREENTICKETRO if you actually knew what you were talking about then why would you make such an ignorant statement

Does your business have a website? I'm looking for a good vintage receiver to power my 1989 AT-15s. I'm the second owner and they are beasts.

Back in the day, I bought a new receiver from Circuit City. It was between the harman cardon and an onkyo. I got the onkyo cause it said i could use 4 ohm speakers. Run the vegas in series to get a 12 ohm load

@SavingVegas

2 ай бұрын

I have since this video been able to take impedance measurements of these speakers. They are rated as having a 6 ohm nominal impedance but they actually measure closer to 4 ohms really, especially the VS-100.

I have a pair of SV 120s I've managed to roast one Sony AV receiver 8ohms. Now we have a new Sony receiver that is 6 ohms for TV/ Nintendo. What would be a good amp to power these bad boys strictly for house parties that doesn't break the bank. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Hey getting a pair of vs-150s I already have a set of vs-80s with a 1974 marantz 4270 receiver is that gonna work or should I get a new receiver?

What I don't get is when you see speakers that say they're 4 ohms and 8 ohms maybe that's another way of saying that they're closer to 5 or 6 ohms

What Thermometer do you use?

I have an old pair of CV Hardrockers 212. The woofers were rotted and a tech replaced them with some 12 in. 4 ohm from Parts Express. My receivers all say no less than 8 ohm speakers. What can you recommend as a low cost amp or receiver to use with the 4 ohm speakers? I am not sure if the original woofers were 4 or ohm. Unable to find information on them. Thanks!

@TheCerwin-Vegamuseum-ve9vs

3 ай бұрын

Not a real tech, as you can easily rebuild those woofers.

I just received my new pair of XLS-215's that I'm powering with a Yamaha MX-800 amp. Only used for rock music at the loudest possible levels. What ohm load should I set the amp at? Why do I get distortion at half throttle? Any other recommendations?

@SavingVegas

Жыл бұрын

Is there a switch on the back of the amp to select impedance?

@terrydaubenspeck5976

Жыл бұрын

@Saving Vega's There are buttons on the front for selecting 2,4,or6 ohms. There are also buttons for selecting 3 pairs of speaker outputs. Would I short circuit things or gain nothing if I connected all 3 speaker outputs to the one pair of speakers?

I have a 1990s Technics Sa-GX170 Stereo Receiver, it's rated at 100 Watts @ 8 ohms. I've been running 1 pair of RadioShack Mach Two speakers which are 15" Woofers and rated @ 8 ohms. I'm looking at purchasing some new Cerwin Vega floor speakers that are equal too my current Mach Two's. I really like the XLS-215'S with the twin 15" Woofers. Will I be OK using my current Receiver??? Appreciate a honest reply.

@SavingVegas

5 ай бұрын

I personally haven't delt with the XLS series Vega's much but I do belive they are rated at 8 ohms so your good there. They don't have the high sensitivity rating like most of the older models do so if you went with the 215's they are going to need some power. Surprisingly I hear most people aren't super thrilled with the bass output of them and most recommend running a subwoofer with them.

@barbiesawada245

4 ай бұрын

I've changed my mind, going with the XLS-15 , rated at 6 ohm , guess I'll be OK with my receiver, don't plan on cranking it up to high.

@steven6692

3 ай бұрын

​@SavingVegas I have a question...what do you think about hooking up a usb fan to the switch outlet of the receiver..? I see that some folks are against it...I keep one on my sony av as soon as it cranks...

My Onkyo Integra AV receiver pushes my vs150’s with ease for the last 25 years with the fan only coming on twice

@SavingVegas

11 ай бұрын

Yes some AV receivers will handle lower impedance better than others. I have had multiple Onkyo receivers over the years and they always preformed well but the newer stuff had some reliability issues. So my latest receiver I bought was a Yamaha which also performs well but have had to send it in for repairs 2 times now and it just runs a set of D-2's.

Hi sir! Do you think a pair of AT-12s from about 15 years ago will run well with 1979 Sansui G4500 (8ohms)? I've seen mixed specs saying the 12s are 6ohms and elsewhere at 4ohms. Any suggestions would be great!

@SavingVegas

9 ай бұрын

I don't think that Sansui would have any issues running a set of AT-12s as long as that is the only set of speakers hooked up to it. Most of the 70's and 80's vintage amps will handle even a 4 ohm load with no issue. Wouldn't hurt to keep an eye on it and if you notice it creating excessive heat then dial it back.

@tkahres

9 ай бұрын

@@SavingVegas thanks so much for the response! This is what I figured. It's very interesting how many conflicting sources state the At-12s at 4ohms, but I was able to find a advertisement spec sheet that puts the AT-15s at 6ohms. Why do you think this is the case? Are the ohms hard to determine for some reason? Also, I'm buying them second hand, and the original owner says their foam was replaced with prylopropelene rubber a few years back. Does that sound accurate/acceptable to you? (Super appreciation your way, sir! Excited for this journey!)

@SavingVegas

9 ай бұрын

I have never used any kind of rubber surrounds on CV woofers before. The surround material and stiffness will affect the sound. I would recommend installing foam surrounds on them but it is up to you. Some people think it's better because they won't rot but they were designed to have foam.

The transformer in you stereo doesn't care what ohms your speakers are as long as your not running neg ohms. If you hear distortion then turn it down your amp well be fine

I'm running a Pioneer vsx59txi with a Realistic eq in to my at-15s and not happy, they say to bi amp the speakers with the front surround channels, this receiver makes 130 wpc @ 8 ohms so will that make 260 wpc

@SavingVegas

4 ай бұрын

I personally wouldn't bother trying to power them with an AV receiver. If your receiver has front channel pre outs I would use those with a good power amp. You can't bi amp AT 15s. Bi amping is when you use 2 different channels for one speaker, one channel for the tweeter and second channel for the woofer.

@buzzracer69ify

4 ай бұрын

Guess I will try a Crown amp, thanks for your time

I have a pair of the LS-10 speakers. I need to know how to connect them to my tv to use as a home theater. Anyone who has the knowledge to help, it would be greatly appreciated. I am not familiar with these kinds of speakers at all.

Hello Saving Vega's, I have the VS-12's and recently opened the fuse holder, and now I can't get it back in. Im pushing up and pulling forward like it says. But it just won't put it back in. Should I push harder or anything?

@SavingVegas

Жыл бұрын

It should just push straight in and once it is pushed in push up and it should click into place.

@TeknoLars

Жыл бұрын

@@SavingVegas I have tried that now, how hard do I have to push up? Because im nearly breaking my fingers 🤣🤣

@SavingVegas

Жыл бұрын

It has to push in before up. Is the fuse in the proper position?

@TeknoLars

Жыл бұрын

@@SavingVegas Yes it's in the proper position

@TeknoLars

Жыл бұрын

@@SavingVegas I can put a video up on my channel and show

My name is Jerry I have D9 cerwin Vega i need know what Av that I can buy to handle these 2 speaker I hope you can help me

@SavingVegas

7 ай бұрын

Unless you are using the D-9's for home theater I wouldn't use one to power the D-9's. I would find a good 2 channel power amp and pre amp. If you do want to use them for home theater I would find a AV receiver that has front channel pre outs so you could use an external power amp for the D-9's and control the power amp with the receiver. Not a lot of AV receivers like 4 ohm speakers like the D-9's are rated.

Never realized CVs were that inefficient

What kinda power amp is good for vs100

@SavingVegas

5 ай бұрын

Of the few amps I've tried on them I prefer my NAD 216 power amp that I was using with my Adcom GTP-500 pre amp.

@bigal3619

5 ай бұрын

@@SavingVegas can you hook up a vinyl player to it

@SavingVegas

5 ай бұрын

It is just a power amp so a pre amp is needed. Then a turntable would hook up to the pre amp.

@bigal3619

5 ай бұрын

@@SavingVegas ok thank u for help

I am primarily a musicologist with an interest in acoustics covering many decades. In that long time I have worked with speakers galore including Cerwins (including the Stanton days) and was naturally attracted by the title. Sadly, all you show is how NOT to treat expensive and quite rare equipment for no particular reason except your own gratification. While HK tuner/amps of the type you show here were nothing special, many people who like music would be glad of such. I really do not understand the North American obsession with pseudo-"testing" such equipment often to destruction and perhaps someone will explain the syndrome to me.

@SavingVegas

9 ай бұрын

🤣

@Wurlyscope

6 ай бұрын

Along with heat you also degrade the characteristics of the output transistors by making them operate outside of their design specs. You shouldn’t try this test. Not even for a few seconds.

sorry but av receivers SUUUUCK

@SavingVegas

Жыл бұрын

Why are you sorry? I power my Vega's with a high current power amplifier. I do however use a AV receiver for my surround sound setup in my house but I have a seperate power amp running off the front channel outputs for my D-2's. I made this video because lots of people use them to power their CVs.

@user-hf4eh2ts3q

Жыл бұрын

@@SavingVegas ok, not sorry. i just use my pioneer sx-780 works great

@SavingVegas

Жыл бұрын

That's a good unit. Used to have a 680 and loved it.

@user-hf4eh2ts3q

Жыл бұрын

@@SavingVegas cool. my current setup is : Pioneer SX-780, Behringer DEQ-2496 ULTRA CURVE PRO, BBE 362-NR SONIC MAXIMISER going in and out of tape monitor 1, SONY TC-WR590 Digital readout dual cassette deck in tape monitor 2, bluetooth module in the aux, PIONEER PL-518 TURNTABLE in phono, Cerwin Vega VS-150'S (one of which i need to re-cone again) in a spkr, and small Infinity RS-2000's in b spkr. But hooked to my PIONEER SX-580 is an Alesis MEQ-230 Dual 30 band per side eq, and in a and b spkr are 2 pairs of Bose 201 series 2 speakers. MY next project is to completely re-do the vs-150 speaker cabinets. Ud like to do them in actual walnut then polyeurethane or whatever that shiny clear crap is on bar tops on them so they look glossy. OR i might do them in clear or smoked acryllic.

@gage4375

Жыл бұрын

I power mine with a Sony 1080 receiver works fine