It comes as absolutely no surprise to me that the Corsair wins. They've used that same design for many years, and for good reason, because it works! Back in the day I purchased a 512MB one, and it was hands down the FASTEST flash drive I had even seen! I even emailed the company claiming I lost the cap and they mailed another one right out to me. Corsair has always, always made great stuff, and this comes as no surprise. I've also got you beat, I have a 32MB flash drive. It's so old it actually (since it was based off of the SD card standard) has a write-protect switch on the side. I have not just one but two!

Moore's law has been surprising us for over 20 years in home PC use. USB drives are no exception. One of the most useful usb drives I've had was one that had an additional micro sd slot on the case that allowed the micro SD to be read as an additional drive. Made file transfer/sharing so much easier.

I'm glad you're back making videos. I always enjoy them.

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Bill Bowlio Excellent! And I am now weekly!

whenever I watch your video it feels like I am watching a british sitcom thanks to the sound effects. awesome work tho keep it up!

I've got no idea what it is but I absolutely love all of this guys videos! They're interesting but so watchable at the same time!

It would be amazing if you could do an updated USB 3.1 drive group test. Your reviews are very thorough and helpful.

Rockin that new intro! Best wishes Chris in the new job and looking forward to the increased production output.

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Lord Humungus Many thanks.

Story time with Christopher :D Good video, thanks.

Lol, still getting used to the new theme song style! =) Happy New Year Christopher!!

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Doug Plaisance Me too, I am still considering changing the music back -- though not the visuals. A Happy New Year to you too! :)

Christopher ,Excellent video

Great video and presentation

great video!!! keep up the good work

Nice video thanks. As with the others I would like to know more about the internal differences if possible.

hey Chris! Excellent video as always. Just wondering, what computer are you using to edit the videos?

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Milan Kragujevic I am still editing on a 3GHz Core 2 Quad with 8GB of RAM a variety of drives connected (as can be seen in this video).

the tiny corsair USB 3.0 stck you used to install Linux mint recently... what is the read right speed with these do you know ?

@ExplainingComputers

7 жыл бұрын

I have not tested -- but must do so. Good point! It will not be as good as the Voyager GT, but I imagine will not be far off.

A very interesting video but i kinda cant help feeling that a more pressing issue is the the read/write speed of USB-C, since thats gonna last a medium time longer while your at it you might also test how good they are at charging phones and other electronic devices.

Although I've had USB 3.0 ports for some time, it's only relatively recently in the past few months I've invested in 16GB Sandisk USB 3.0 drive (the model escapes my mind). It's more or less because it's still surprisingly not that well-adopted. I have other devices that are still only 2.0, and have had a few clients who only have USB 2.0 ports on their computers. I recently bought a cheap 2.5" 3.0 external enclosure off of Amazon when I bought a Samsung 850 Evo 500Gb to replace my HyperX 3K 240GB, which works perfectly fine--didn't see the point in throwing it away. You know, it was annoying when I worked for Jobcentre Plus, and having a lack of access to cloud storage. I used to have to pull together resources for marketing materials at home, and email them to my work email. Even access to USB storage was restricted. Still, I'm a huge proponent of optical and flash-based storage. I don't like putting all of my eggs in one basket with regards to storage, and that's why I think those who say such things are dead, are a little short-sighted.

Try sandisk extreme 64gb usb 3.0... it will blow all these out the Galaxy, not only water

@AnthonyCook78

8 жыл бұрын

+Anas Malas I was just about to say the same thing. Brilliant memory sticks!

Thank you Christopher :)

this is irrelevant but my new years resolution is 1920x1080

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+joey serenko A good resolution, in both senses! But it may mean I would have to shoot in 4K! :) I have become so to used to cropping 1080p Prores in 720p post, especially for table top shots. And then there is also the issue of what resolution I would grab computer screens at -- 1080p would clearly work, but I am also aware of the people watching my stuff on smartphones and 7 inch tablets. But the direction of travel here has to be toward 1920x1080 . . .

@Yeet-tc3xy

8 жыл бұрын

ExplainingComputers right now my computers resolution is 1280x720 :-( because I cannot afford a 1080p moniter....

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+joey serenko I still really like 1280x720 as a resolution -- it has lots of benefits (as I kind of hint at above!), esp for the web, and in terms of file storage and editing on a lower spec machine. I currently edit on a 1280x1024 monitor, which full-screens 1280x1024 very well indeed. You will see this in next week's video. People forget that many cinemas still project 2K (ie 2048 pixels horizontally), so we really do not need 1920x1080 for TV and web use! I always prefer good 720p to bad 1080p footage -- and there is a lot of the latter online. Most consumer cameras and smartphones that record 1080p footage do also not actually resolve 1080 lines of resolution (ie the format is 1080, but the footage certainly is not). As you have probably guessed, this issue is a hobby-horse of mine! :) We must also not forget that what really matters is content, regardless of resolution. It is not that many years since all KZread footage was 320x240 pixels . . .

@Yeet-tc3xy

8 жыл бұрын

ExplainingComputers my connection cannot handle 720p only 360p..

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+joey serenko Ah, I understand. My connection handles 720p (sometimes!), but not 1080p.

The chip speed also depends on if it's single layer bit storage, double layer or triple layer bit storage. Single layer is the fastest, but takes up more space to layout on a chip, double layer is a bit slower because it stacks bits on top of each other but you save space on the chip which gives you more capacity for the same size chip and a single layer, but can also limit life time of memory and if a double layer chip fails in a bit layer then you lose access or corrupt data in larger quantities where a single layer bit could be compensated for with parity bits, double layer bits can cause a larger amount of bits to be lost. My terminology maybe a little off but I hope you get what I am trying to describe. More layers, slower access time to write and read.

Dont worry, your sure not babbling, quite the contrary and with such fine video work & relevant information.. you got an new subscriber here.. great yt-work.

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

Many thanks, and welcome aboard! :)

USB Flash is handy to have, For installing a OS for example. Thanks for the video.

Interestingly enough, a couple of days ago, my teacher asked the class to write a letter to ourselfs in 10 years, one of the things I described was the storage capacities we have today, I wonder how small the capacities today will look compared to the future.

hey chris. i just want to know that were you using a 3.0 port for every pendrive ???

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Fahad Rahman I now use USB 3.0 when I can.

I think it would be interesting to test file transfers with different operating systems and/or file systems like ntfs, zfs, btrfs, ext4, and windows vs linux.

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+simTransporter Now this I may do! :)

Professor, the corsair smoked both the transcend and Hyper

In Australia major centers are covered by the internet but as soon as you leave town you loose internet.

Is there any way i can copy my win 10 installation to a dvd so i can install it on another pc?

Keycard access on toilets? Wow now that is security gone wild.

@WayneJohnsonZastil

8 жыл бұрын

+Dennis Smith Jr. Not really major gay sex and drugs go on in toilets!

+ExplainingComputers Even the devices are USB 3.0, the speeds are still different.

Was any of them backward compatible as this is big plus imo! HyperX think said it was?

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Wayne Johnson All are backwards compatible with USB 2.0.

Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.

are u going to do a follow up on the lemaker guiter

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Pawan Kumar Yes -- when they have released operating system images that work at standard HDMI resolutions! :) Hopefully soon.

@PawanKumar-nx1eu

8 жыл бұрын

+ExplainingComputers thanku for the reply will be waiting for it also can u please do more singleboard computer vids.

I haven't heard of any 64 TB drives.... I'm not as up-to-date as I would like to be though.

Where was this video 6 months ago when I bought my 64GB HyperX drive?

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Ryan Sorry! :)

Thanks

Performance is important but reliability is also: if your USB key dies after one year it doesn't matter how fast it was! In your experience, which manufacturers make the most reliable keys and which make the worst? Thanks.

Next video idea: AHCI vs MVMe vs SATA

@greylightchallenger

8 жыл бұрын

This is a full story 😂 not just name

I have a 3.0 64gb drive when I plug in computer it has 59gb. I was wondering how to format and get some GB back. The brand I have is medion I got at aldi for $20 (Australia)

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+SuperHuzzy10 59GB will be the formatted capacity -- you cannot get 64GB usable from a 64GB drive I'm afraid.

thanx for changing 😊😊😊😊

Succinct, time for an update. Just upgraded 80+ years parents from vista to win 10. I found 4,6 gig of Photos on onedrive going to migrate to Googledrive 15 gig, thanks for that Chris, following your 321on backup leaving 4.6 gig on onedrive coppying to google drivre plus route new piks n vids there, and on a suitable usb stick. when instaled crome on old vista laptop there aswell. I think the stick is going to be the one you put in your pocket the cosair unles you know better. thanks for all your efforts keep it up.

To me the next exciting thing is the M.2 which will replace those sata drive cables slots (bottlenecks) on hard disk. There are a lot of speed advantages here too! Thank you Chris! Rich

@Kevin-wo3kp

8 жыл бұрын

+MrMoonpie001 Yes and No. M.2 and U.2 will use an pcie lane and therefore share its bandwidth with any other gear on those pipes. I had to decide between having a video card by itself on the pcie slots or sharing it with a U.2. It's hard to pay top price for a decent video card - only to have its processing input/output power halved because another device shares the bandwidth. When we can buy a motherboard (mobo) that has a dedicated pathway/pipelines for each slot can we can get the best out of our kit. As yet that's not possible.

@MrMoonpie001

8 жыл бұрын

Good and relevant points Kevin. It would be nice if all the techknowledge improved at the same pace but that will never be the case. There are also large swings on the performance end on the M.2 compatible peripherals, things that can take advance of the speed and others that show no performance gains. That is the big dilemma at this moment with much of the technology. It seems harder in someways to upgrade without rebuilding everything and then it is still questionable of the results. Video cards are a really good example of this. Thanks for your comments. Rich

@Kevin-wo3kp

8 жыл бұрын

Likewise yours, Rich! ;-) Catch you around!

Kindly make a video about the working of USB ports and how they support OTG. One challenging problem might be to alter a smartphone without OTG support so that it can support OTG. Also, my tablet sometimes detects my smartphone and sometimes do not. I think that it has something to do with the relative battery power. It will be nice if you can clarify why this happens.

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Satish Singh Yes, a video on USB OTG is on my production list. L)

ok, i appreciate your response. and keep goin ... i like your videos and many does so keep uploading.

thanx for changing

How do you get that old windows skin there

@anhdrw

7 жыл бұрын

Bridget Middleton he is using an old PC (computer)

The Corsair are extremely reliable. Pity they don't do a duo A+C stick.

Hi Chris. Nice video though I have three comments (i) Only three brands were tested which is far from being close to what already there in the market (but it's fine with me since I have the Transcend one, with only 32GB though. (ii) Some pen drives used to be slower when copying many small files than the case with one big file which tend to be much faster. (iii) You like storage devices quite much ;-)

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Hasan Salim These happened to be the three I chose! You are totally right, copying small files will be slower -- the test was with the kind of file sizes I most commlynwork with. :)

Not really important but could you perhaps record in 1080p if possible. I'm on a 1440p monitor and the quality isnt crystal clear.

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+rickster4k This is a tricky one. I could move to 1080p (although it would make my CG heavy videos harder to produce!). However, if I show software running in 1080p, people viewing the videos at 720p, and certainly 480p and 360p will not be able to read the text onscreen/etc. So I would welcome wider views on this one.

A lot of amazon reviewers will use Crystal Disk Mark to test their flash-drives in reviews. I think it really helps in the buying process.

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Brandon Walker Yes, I thought about that. But I like to be different! :) Also, my personal interest was in a test based on my own most common usage scenario.

Why didn't you include a Sandisk drive?

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+daab889 No particular reason.

Hi. I need help. I have 2 PNY usb 3 pen drives , one 16 Gb and one 32 Gb. On Windows 10 the 16 gig works fine but the 32 one is not recognized. Tested the 32 gig drive on Ubuntu and Chromixium and works fine. Uninstalled the drivers and installed back after restart but still same problem..... HELP please...

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+MARIO SCICLUNA Very strange given that the drive works in Ubuntu. What file system is on it? And which OS formatted it? Can you see the drive in "Disk Management" under "Computer Management"?

@marsci12

8 жыл бұрын

+ExplainingComputers Tried everything fat, fat 32 , NTFS . useless. Formatted on Windows 7

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+MARIO SCICLUNA So perhaps faulty hardware that Ubuntu is more tolerant of.

I wonder why the Transcend and HyperX drives are made to USB 3.0 in the first place,since they do no even saturate USB 2.0 speeds.

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Giggity Goebbels A great observation! :)

Corsair... waaw!!

Just for the extra protection of my 100-200 dollars I would take the Crosair.

This is a good, well produced, cautionary tale typical of many things in the computer world: not everything is created equally - so buyer beware and do your research as Christopher shows how! For what it's worth - and not every device can be tested in any group test - my preference for solid state storage is Samsung. I remember USB3 coming out 5 years ago (see Christopher's video of that time) and now USB3.1 is out but it appears it is not economically viable for computer suppliers to produce/sell. Maybe it will take another 5 years.... Storage technology is a lot slower than Moore's law. However, it is my prediction we will have generous storage (2Tb) built into wrist-wear with password-protected Near Field Comms (NFC) for data transfer in the next 5 years. Christopher makes an important comment about the convenience and security of having your data with you - and a brief comment is made about storing on the cloud as well. Professional photographer's have a mantra which states anything not stored in three separate places is not stored at all. The agony of lost data is unique so don't buy cheap! If your data is your income then you can't afford to ignore Christopher's other video on security storage/tough stick drives. Over this Christmas holiday I did a personal data audit and reduced my storage needs from 6Gb to 1.5Gb. Not only am I saving money but time as well. Suddenly it has become easier to file new things away, too.

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Kevin H That sounds like a major but very useful storage audit and clear-out. I need to do a similar thing for my video archives.

@Kevin-wo3kp

8 жыл бұрын

+ExplainingComputers Actually, as personal as a clear-out always is, it might be useful to have a video on how to do a personal data audit....? I haven't seen anything similar yet on YT. As a brief guide, my policies/procedures were: - All family photos to be stored in 3 places - All saved websites older than 2 years binned regardless - there's newer, better stuff out there - All pictures (not photos) less than 35kb gets binned - then a physical look-see to determine if I really need the rest of the pictures and sorted into folders - All duplicate MP3s are binned and the MP3 repository is backed up - Software not used in 3 years gets binned - Everything of dubious nature gets binned (pirated, virus, trial software) - All bought software is duplicated separately with serial number notes etc - All my legally owned pdfs are stored in a Library Classification folder system (yes, I have this in empty folder format - it's legal) So the end result is that everything I have is legal and filed in a system that makes sense to add to. Next year I will do a similar audit to remove mainly old website files.

But the write speeds are listed on the packaging. The HyperX even says 90MB/s read and 30MB/s write...

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Ankstek You are correct! But I seldom trust what is written on the packaging for a USB drive! :)

@Ankstek

8 жыл бұрын

+ExplainingComputers You have a point, but as long as you don't buy any no name USB-drive the specifications are usually correct from my experience.

@Machariel00

8 жыл бұрын

+Ankstek Maybe you'll get 90 and 30 MB/s speeds at certain conditions, they don't state what kind of benchmark exactly they did to achieve those speeds.

I tend to go to SanDisk for flash memory for the fact they have a 5 year warranty on flash drives and a life time warranty on SD Cards. the USB port also retracts so no cap to lose 😛

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Annabella Williams I always go Sandisk for SD and CF cards, Samsung for SSDs, and Western Digital for hard drives. I avoid retractable USB keys as I do not understand them. There is no protection offered for the internal contacts from dust/etc even when retracted, so what is the point? But this may just be me! :)

@succuvamp_anna

8 жыл бұрын

+ExplainingComputers Understandable, I have had to use a Q-tip and clean the contacts once or twice in my day lol. You may like this, SanDisk was recently bought out by Western Digital. Oh yes one thing, did any of the drives get "warm" when you was using them? My 3.0 drives get warm which makes me wonder if it's drawling the 850 mA of USB 3.0. and if you want I can give you the speeds of my SanDisk 64GB stick.

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Annabella Williams Ah! I had not heard about SanDisk and Western Digital -- very interesting. I have used all three drives more extensively since making the video (copying 10+GB in some single copies), and the Corsair certainly gets a little warm. But this may be because you can feel the heat conducting through the rubber, whereas there is an air gap between the circuits and the outer case on the other two. But I have also know USB 2.0 drives get warm too. If you have Sandisk speeds from a real-life test, please do post them here. The more info people have, the better. :)

I bought a 128GB Sandisk for £20 on amazon uk. I was moving 100gb of movies from an external harddrive through my z97 motherboard to the usb stick. Only got 5.6mbps transfer? it is a usb 2.0 but it was painful.

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Winstan USB drives can be soooooo slow as you note. This is why I did a real-world test on these devices.

@tbrowniscool

8 жыл бұрын

ExplainingComputers Yeah I enjoyed the video. I think my transfer was bottle necked by the external hdd. Still better than using the cloud for anything!

I don't want my stuff on the Internet... I want to have a physical copy in my hand. Also on the USB drives you have, I have seen ALOT of them that says USB 3.0/2.0 BUT you have to be careful look on the back because alot of them in SMALL print say drive is USB 2.0 but compatible with USB 3.0!!! I went Thur looking at about 20 in Wal-M**T here in US and all said USB 3.0 but on back in small print said drive was USB 2.0

@anhdrw

7 жыл бұрын

Mike Flynn They are backwards compatible, they are 3.0 but they can work on a computer/laptop that has only a USB 2.0 Port.

@micflynn1

7 жыл бұрын

Bm_508 yes they are backwards compatible, but you didn't read what i said, they claim to be USB 3.0 when they are only USB 2.0 devices, yes they will work although slow on a USB 3.0 port, but do not support the USB 3.0 speed,. manufacturer's are tricking people into buying older hardware with new packaging and saying USB 3.0 but if you read the small print on back it say it's a USB 2.0 device!!! now that not fare to people who don't know better and see USB 3.0 on the front and just assume thats what they are buying. BTW I've been working on, building, programming computer for 35 years I know hardward at the base level down to the electrical leavels, use to build computers from chips on breadboards. i find it very upsetting how companies have reworded computer terms to meet thier selling needs, like a megabyte, it's 1024 not 1000..... gigabyte you buy 32 gig memory stick or hdd ssd, it's only 28 gig... due to rounding numbers they say... ripoff.

@micflynn1

7 жыл бұрын

I have to add, Not ALL USB 3.0/ Manufacturers are USB 2.0 most are USB 3.0. you have to look on back unless stated on front of package to make sure it is indeed USB 3.0 and not just 3.0 compatible. i have a very nice new USB 3.0 32 gig stick i just purchased for $14 U.S. made by PNY.

@anhdrw

7 жыл бұрын

Mike Flynn Oh theree, you make a valid point.

Stop the USB falling down the crapper with a string on your swipe card

You need to also test copying small files (4K random write). For instance, try copying all the files from inside an XP ISO to a 'fast' USB 3 drive. Sandisk Extreme 64GB (rated 245/190MB/s) - 1:45 minutes Lexar P20 (rated 400/270MB/s) - 45 minutes!!! Copying large files to the Lexar is faster than the SanDisk, but when you need to copy lots of smaller files, then the Lexar is very slow! rmprepusb.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/beware-of-this-fast-usb-30-flash-drive.html

it would be a good idea to crack them open and see which nand flash is actually fitted. There are far less nand manufacturers - the outside lables don't manufacture the actual flash. I doubt if they are responsible for the firmware at all...

@twilmer34

8 жыл бұрын

I would like to know the root cause for the differences on low level - what is crossair doing internally?

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Thorsten Wilmer It would indeed be good to know, though this is working hardware, so I am not going to take it apart! :)

@twilmer34

8 жыл бұрын

+ExplainingComputers Agreed, but for the learning experience one has to take some things apart sometimes. I'll try and search if someone else has done it. The web is full of people dropping brand new phones for zero knowledge gain. Education for what specialy to look would be great. is there any hint from outside or the USB descriptors which could tell this differences in advance? SD cards have the class rating - which if not faked should tell. comparison are only worth if the model - exact part number - is available. i have seen it India that Samsung SD cards have 'in' in the product code. this invalidates all tests others may have done. with such a small change even a genuine manufacturer can change the contents. not that they do, but they could.

@twilmer34

8 жыл бұрын

+Thorsten Wilmer www.tomshardware.com/reviews/usb-3.0-thumb-drive-review,3477-7.html here a more complete overview

I prefer the corsair since it doesn't show the capacity on it. It reduce the temptation to get it stolen from you... 64 gB is not cheap you don't want to scream how big it is straight on the very package :P

@ExplainingComputers

8 жыл бұрын

+Ben's things & thoughts Yes indeed. Corsair write the capacity vary faintly in very small letters on the metal of the USB connector.

Er oh, the king (kingston) is died (too slow). Corsair is always fast. I don't know how the speed between Corsair Go and Corsair GT

Mr. SpeedScissors

no surprise the hyperX took the longest considering the bullshit shenanigans Kingston pulled with the bait-n-switch NAND on the V300 SSD now drives

Not a very good presentation of the USB sticks

Meh, my "Corsair Flash Voyager GS 128GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive" is faster :D Got mine refurbished for £30 from scan

I remember my first 1GB flashdrive back in 2008 but unfortunately got broken 1 years later, now in 2017 I have 64GB & 32GB Btw, who's watching this in 2017?

Sweaty toes

first .lol.

This is bullshit comercial. It is trick. If you had formated your USB in NTFS file system you will know that the speed the windows is showing is not real and when it comes to "5 sec remaining" time you will wait that "5 sec" a while. On NTFS USB speed windows actualy shows the cash of the HDD or SDD at the beggining, but if you transfer a video file sized od several GB the speed will slowly decresing and at the at the end will shows the real speed. Real speed test is when your USB is on default format FAT32, then Windows shows the real speed. Also you can do test with "h2testw" program for USB testing, it shows precisly the real speed. ;)

thanx for changing

thanx for changing 😊😊😊😊