That's good too see - they're not asking for a ship crammed full of unproven, advanced tech. Just proven, reliable stuff with the POTENTIAL to upgrade to new stuff - once it's ready.

@rogersmith7396

2 жыл бұрын

So sorta like a Ford Pinto? Plenty of room for upgrades.

@catonpillow

2 жыл бұрын

Too good to be true actually. By the time these ships are approved they will already be outdated.

@SamtheIrishexan

2 жыл бұрын

They are preparing for next gen warfare so sturdy ship characteristics with an almost modular approach to armament and recon ability. We will probably have radar drones everywhere on the battlefield so its not necessarily the most important thing imo

@arbiter204

2 жыл бұрын

@@catonpillow this is a average design wdym?

@mariotabusao4501

2 жыл бұрын

O m

Now that's a well reasoned video...no outlandish claims or promises...lots of speculation that is based on sound principles...good videos that match the discussion....Well done Binkov, well done indeed.

@piepile6328

2 жыл бұрын

He sure doesn’t speculative about Chinese military technology. I’m fact he gives it the benefit of the doubt!

that thing looked like a PLA destroyer for some reason

@RobTzu

2 жыл бұрын

Solving same problems with same science leads to similiar solutions.

@thomaszhang3101

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobTzu say that to J-20 and J-35

@VoidSpace9

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomaszhang3101 America copied from nazi Germany lol

@vkqtran4721

2 жыл бұрын

@@VoidSpace9 And how is that relevant?

@wolfgangjr74

2 жыл бұрын

@@VoidSpace9 America paid and licensed technology from Germany. Not the usual chinese crap of just down right stealing tech.

Looks a lot like how the Spruance class was made a bit bigger to become the Ticonderoga class. And somehow looks likes a Chinese Type 55.

@catonpillow

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much. I would've said that it's just a cheap copy of the Type 055. But it's not. Since it will be an *expensive* copy. Knowing that the military industrial complex never meets its deadlines and always go grossly over budget.

@anguswaterhouse9255

2 жыл бұрын

People saying it looks like the 055 are blind. It literally has the Zumwalts superstructure.

@anguswaterhouse9255

2 жыл бұрын

@@kanding3369 It's overpriced sure, but 1v1 it could kill any other ship on the water. Especially after next years refit with hypersonic ship to ship missiles

@ulrichkristensen4087

Жыл бұрын

@@kanding3369 lol

The last time I was this early, the US Navy was still known as the Continental Navy!

@123bambam4

2 жыл бұрын

I see we have a Benedict Arnold fan. 🦶

@manganvbg90

2 жыл бұрын

Last time i was this late, pearl harbor attack happened

Finally. A good destroyer that isn’t as extremely expensive as Zumwalt

@randomthot125

2 жыл бұрын

It's still on the drawing board my guy. Zumwalt looked much better on paper and was promised to be 10 times cheaper, look what happened.

@jwatt1800

2 жыл бұрын

@Ran Brainhole I agree with that. People see the US massive military budget and automatically assume their military might reflects that. But the US spends a lot of that budget maintaining bases that aren’t really needed anymore. Every single year the Pentagon fails audits done by the IRS because massive amounts of money (I’m talking billions) ends up unaccounted for. The US isn’t as innovative overall since a while ago. There’s plenty of key areas where Russia and China have a sizable lead because the US isn’t exactly investing in the most prudent technology. Still no answer to hypersonic missiles. Plus comparatively speaking to the Russian navy US ships are very lightly armed. What’s the point in investing in sophisticated naval ships and technology if your still leaving your ships and bases wide open to missiles which cost a fraction to make/maintain

@BKC01595

2 жыл бұрын

@Ran Brainhole no doubt! I'm still at the my first AF base and the construction on part of the flight line has been in the works for the last 5 years I've been here. I thought they finished only for them to be like "lol we did it wrong give us more money to redo it" #get new contracts

@SnakeBush

2 жыл бұрын

Capitalism at work

@MohitKumar-jf8lz

2 жыл бұрын

@@SnakeBush atleast it works.

DDGX looks like PLAN type 055 destroyer

Regardless of the design, the US Navy must allow for the maintenance and care of the ship to be performed by its own sailors and crew. And not overly rely on outside independent contractors like they do with the Zumwalt and LCS. All the best to everyone

Another very detailed video Binkov! I just want to mention a few things: 1: First time I looked at the design: the bow is almost exactly like the one of Type 055 2: We can see that many radars were exposed on top of the bridge, which would decrease its stealth capabilities 3: There are old radars on the design from 60s/70s 4: This design is obviously a rush in response of the Type 055, it is not carefully designed as it just look like they just simply stuffed all the technology they wanted on there. It is very unlikely that the actual ship will look like it

@gregoryvangaya8971

2 жыл бұрын

Why large surface ships at all?? They are costly sitting ducks! Name me a mission set that something better, faster, stealthier and deadlier can't do for 1/5th the cost?

@ricodelpiero

2 жыл бұрын

Not the final design dude, DDG(X) would be build in 2028. US Navy have not decided yet what final hull design might their use, whether tumblehome hull design like in Zumwalt class or flared monohull.

@kevinyang8383

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregoryvangaya8971 China had the idea of using small ships in the 1960s, but as you see, the navy decided to abandon that idea. US had that idea too recently, but they still decide to went on with the Principal Surface Combatants instead.

@gregoryvangaya8971

2 жыл бұрын

​@@kevinyang8383 Hi, I can actually see China needing a large navy with a strong mix of ships, especially missile trucks... THey have to break through the 1st island chain to have any security, and they can do that with air cover from their coast. For almost anywhere else, I don't see it. The US is drastically reducing their large surface ships from 97 to 63 or something like that. Everyone is making the switch to submarines. For projecting power, I think long range bombers and floating planes that can service and rendey vous with submarines motherships that can command swarms of mostly autonomous ships. I just don't see the mission set for how expensive large surfface ships are, shy of cheap cariers. Help me?.. Is there a mission set I'm not seeing that other platforms can't do much better in most scenarios? How does a large surface ship get into the fight without fairly cheaply being bombed, torpedoed by a sub, or missile hit?.. It seems LCS actually are just expensive platforms that get stuck needing th emost expensive systems just to protect themselves!??... What am I missing?

@kevinyang8383

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregoryvangaya8971 Now you put it like that, I do feel like that it's an interesting thing to think about. But it is also true that the USN did have a plan to go for minor surface combatants and submarines, though they didn't decide to go that way. I suppose it's because of the issue of modern detection systems and many others. For example, Taiwan's navy is trying to build more missile boats to create an imbalanced advantage against PLA's big ships. However, things like drones would create big trouble for them and they wouldn't have much defense themselves. I guess that, at least for now, fleets with well offense and defense capabilities are still quite important to large navies.

the fact that we are getting actual laser systems on ships now is so fucking cool I cant handle it

That Z painted in the zumwalt did not age well

@ulrichkristensen4087

Жыл бұрын

Why?

Hopefully the US Navy really does take in and use all of the lessons it learned from Zumwalt and the LCSs. If they do, these might just be pretty good ships.

Hopefully we see a more offensive mindset with these destroyers. Having excellent defensive capability is necessary, but these ships deserve more than a couple aging harpoon (if they get any at all)

@victoroduarte

2 жыл бұрын

the US Navy is replacing the Harpoons with the AGM-158 LRASM for a while, they can be used in the MK41 vertical launch cells

@anguswaterhouse9255

2 жыл бұрын

I beleive thats why they referance hypersonic missiles

@brendanl9937

2 жыл бұрын

They also have SM-6s, which can be used as well as a small warhead supersonic anti-ship missile

@Ry_TSG

2 жыл бұрын

@@brendanl9937 They’re not nearly as good as a proper anti ship missile though

@brendanl9937

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ry_TSG Yes becsuse it's not their purpose to be one. They are an anti aircraft missile, but were optimized to be able to be used and launched as an anti-ship missile.

looks exactly like 055a to me

@gato2

2 жыл бұрын

Lol literally said they design is not final

@lizadonrex

2 жыл бұрын

You sound like 055 is a world first unique design that everybody even US copy it🤦

@joshualai2827

2 жыл бұрын

@Eldritch Construct like a burke

@robertgittings8662

2 жыл бұрын

@Eldritch Construct *don't be embarrassed there were many more: the iPhone copied Huawei's camera setup before asking the congress to ban it; KZread copied Tiktok's short video setup before asking the president to ban (unsuccessfully); ...*

Excellent analysis! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

Like stealth fighter, it seems 055 type design is a popular choice that multiple designs are converging upon

@jxdirsdt1045

2 жыл бұрын

Wtf u talking bout ? So fucking misinformed🤣🤣🤣

@MaxwellAerialPhotography

2 жыл бұрын

Finally someone who understand convergent design instead just scream “(X) iS cOpYiNg (Y)”

looks like a Zumwalt and a Burke were put in a dark room together.

@williammcconville4967

2 жыл бұрын

Probably what they did, obviously not literal prob crossed the tech

@KrisWustrow

2 жыл бұрын

Me thinks this was a sexual reference. LOL

@williammcconville4967

2 жыл бұрын

@@KrisWustrow it looked like a joke to me, your view points to you being perverted

@KrisWustrow

2 жыл бұрын

@@williammcconville4967 yes he wrote a joke... in a dark room together... get it?

@williammcconville4967

2 жыл бұрын

@@KrisWustrow developing photos?

Look I think we can make a deal here. If we can name PLAN's 5th gen carrier fighter J-35 to have a go at F-35, then it only makes sense that USN is allowed to call this class DDG055. I think we can all agree that's fair.

Excellent video! Well composed.

I always enjoy your vids. Thanks.

The design is somewhat similar to the type 055 destroyers.

@catonpillow

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. I would've said that it's just a cheap copy of Type 055 but it's not. Since it will be an *expensive* copy. Knowing that the military industrial complex never meets its deadlines and always go grossly over budget.

@infoworld7706

2 жыл бұрын

it's weird the channel didn't mention a thing about it but would say J20 is a copy of F22 or F35. I guess they know the secret codes of making popular videos.

@sparky4405

2 жыл бұрын

@@infoworld7706 whats the resemblance?

@kaz9242

2 жыл бұрын

@Austin Carr how is type 55 similar to Burke?

@kaz9242

2 жыл бұрын

@Austin Carr lol by that logic all frigates and destroyers are copy of each other as their basic structure is more similar than different

the price per ship is so much higher than what building ship cost to china.. I don't see how USA could keep a stronger navy than China on the long term

@christaylor6654

2 жыл бұрын

Chinas.labor cost is rapidly increasing while their economy is slowed way down. New corona restrictions will only hurt them even more. The US doesn’t have to keep up with them ship for ship that’s impossible, only need to keep tactics and supply lines and china can’t threaten anyone without major alliances being changed

@adis.g6569

2 жыл бұрын

Murica doesnt even need to compete. They are crumbling from within

@briant5685

2 жыл бұрын

@@christaylor6654 you'll soon hear scandals surrounding this new project,at the end of it all there will be like 4 ships constructed before the entire project gets abandoned due to coast meanwhile chinese will be working on their 30th destroyer

@user-iw4fe9fc4g

2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry.The government can cut the budget for infrastructure，such as schools and subway system,which seems not important to USA now.And more important point，allies will pay the bill for America.

If there's one thing for sure. is that this ships will not be the price they're stating now.

The fact that this uses technology were already beginning to field us a good sign, it means that when the ship sets sail it won’t be full of the newest unproven tech like the Zumwalt or LCS, this will massively save costs allowing for future upgrades or more ships to be built.

1:51 NICE BOAT

@Gentleman...Driver

2 жыл бұрын

As a sailor I would do anything to serve on that ship. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

these numbers arent crazy. I was on a Ticonderga it was built for ~1.3 billion by 1990 so in inflated 2022 dollars say about 2/6-2.7 billion. Esp since they are making a new class and bigger ships 2.6 2.9billion would be kinda reasonable.

@royhuang9715

2 жыл бұрын

Zumwalt was supposedly to be under 2.5B per hull, by the time it was built the price went up to 4.3B. 2.6 sounds reasonable on paper but the actual cost will be around 5B per ship.

@catonpillow

2 жыл бұрын

@@royhuang9715 Spot on.

Love your videos, keep up the great work!!

Excellent Analysis!!! Thank You!!!

This is like a 055 Burke hybrid

Could you imagine if they just built 1,000 oldschool cannon ball ships instead.

@catonpillow

2 жыл бұрын

Even better, if they just build schools and invests into education instead of spending billions on ships that will never be used. A wild idea, I know.

@cripple9860

Жыл бұрын

bring back wooden sailing ships lol

It’s a testament to the Burke’s they will be decommissioning some while still building more. I was on the first IIA’s and it was painful for me because we had some one off parts for A-gang. It was still a very capable ship. I love this class!

About time the Navy got over it's Super hightech megaship phase.

@MRsolidcolor

2 жыл бұрын

china had to kick it in the dick

@Vincent98987

2 жыл бұрын

They should better build the huge alien space craft from the movie "Battleship"

I lile how the Zumwalt was critisized for having an unstable hull but turned iut to be more stable than pretty much everything😂

@orbiradio2465

Жыл бұрын

There are worries about stability, when the ship is damaged. So far no Zumwalt has been damaged.

@AugmentedGravity

Жыл бұрын

@@orbiradio2465 it wasn’t just when damaged, it was generall sea state worthiness, which it completely disproved

Electric motor propulsion should be quiter too, they can account for the power plant vibration seperately while a smooth running electric prop will still propell.

@ulrichkristensen4087

Жыл бұрын

I reackon in a few years thorium reactors will be so small that they will replace all fossil fuel motors.

The US has signed the contract to buy 20 FREMM class Frigates construction has started on the first one. It displaces about 8,000 tones. It is a proven design and they operate with the Italian and French navy, and are doing well. The US Navy is to make a few changes. It is well armed

@jeffkerr7418

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully at bath iron works. Maine usa.

@MaxwellAerialPhotography

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffkerr7418 Fincantieri Marinette Marine on the Great Lakes.

@gregoryvangaya8971

2 жыл бұрын

Why large surface ships at all?? They are costly sitting ducks! Name me a mission set that something better, faster, stealthier and deadlier can't do for 1/5th the cost?

Awesome presentation

As a naval architect, it seems reasonable and pretty good honestly.

A video on the Constellation class frigate would be interesting .

The propulsion system is called turbo-electric drive. The US Navy introduced this form of propulsion in 1918 on the New Mexico class battleships.

Kinda like how we spent a fortune on Seawolf, and ended up with the cheaper Virginia... Kinda seems like this is how the Navy rolls.

How it will turn out: they will spend a billion or two, won't reach their crazy requirements and just decide to upgrade the Burke yet again.

@grahamfloyd3451

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Lazer weapons that exist nowhere on this planet, yet the Navy is going to build a platform around them before they get invented... the emperor has no clothes.

@MrFlatage

2 жыл бұрын

@@grahamfloyd3451 Haha nice BS fantasy story. But no one sees 'lazer weapons' in the OP ofcourse. Awh the little emperor is making up stufff.

@robbiejames1540

2 жыл бұрын

@@grahamfloyd3451 @Oliver Kurzweg did you listen to what he was saying? It's a far less demanding design than the zumwalt, and isn't built around a laser weapon at all - the terminal defences are designed to use already existing systems that could then become lasers when/if they work.

This is when Zummwalt will finally bare fruit. A lot of lessons learned will be applied to a more tradition ship.

@MostlyPennyCat

2 жыл бұрын

Lessons of 'don't be so bloody stupid' The British built IEP Destroyers and Carriers and barring issues with the WR21 GT in the Type 45, they Just Work. USA should come to Europe more for assistance, we have a good track record for high text weaponry made within budget.

@MrFlatage

2 жыл бұрын

Good job then. They turned it into a fruit growing facilitiy to feed starving US citizens who do not have food stamps or can stand in line at soup kitchens. Banana!

@catonpillow

2 жыл бұрын

@@MostlyPennyCat The U$ military industrial complex is not stupid. They're just greedy, that's all :)

Where a ship's quarterdeck is lower then the main deck it is generally called a Frigate. In the Destroyer tonnage range the Frigate design is sometimes done, usually a helipad.

Yo Binkov, dude if I worked in the Pentagon I would use your videos as reference material. They are that good. Keep up the great work bro...

The sailors wouldn’t know what to do with all this technology, but as long as they are up to speed on their CRT training, that’s all that matters.

@MrFlatage

2 жыл бұрын

Sure as if US sailors lack the intelligence to know how to switch a radar on? Even if some commercial container ship rammed into a USN ship and killed those US sailors? That is just incident. Not like it would happen again just a month later you know ... And if US sailors lose GPS signal? They will know things like Celestial Navigation and Sextants to navigate without any technology. What do you think would happen? US sailors lost in Irans waters and on their knees crying in front of a camera? In front of the goatherding navy? Luckily the USN has found a way to have superior trained sailors if they install ... Xboxcontrollers.

First time when i saw that ship I thought it was a type 055 lol

>13,000 tons Just call it a cruiser at this point

@orkhepaj

2 жыл бұрын

it is a missile cruiser yup

@sctm81

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It's getting silly at this point.

@hphp31416

2 жыл бұрын

cruiser is ship operating on its own, destroyers were created to destroy torpedoboats and now they are build to destroy missiles that replaced torpedoboats

It looks almost identical to Chinese type 055. OMG

@EGvids1

Жыл бұрын

It’s disgraceful. DDGX is a US copy of China’s Type 55. Shame on the US

I think that this ship will actually have all or most planned units completed. The US Navy simply NEEDS these. With probably dozens of ships being taken out of service soon, The Navy needs these ships to stay competitive with potential enemies.

@operator9858

2 жыл бұрын

Thats what they said about the last ships they are already dumping...

@catonpillow

2 жыл бұрын

The military industrial complex is known for never meeting its deadlines and always going grossly overbudget. For them that's nothing but business you see. The new ships will end up being the same expensive garbage just like zumwalt.

@rodfel2001

2 жыл бұрын

Of course the US Navy needs these "stolen tech", but we must also shut the fuck up with those ranting about how superior we are to the Hans ...

Like any US Navy project to date it'll probably be past deadline, over budget, and probably scrapped by Congress to instead pay for "sensitivity training". But it is the most practical plan the Navy's come up with in the past 20 years. Oh, and it's not an 055 copy. It's just good hull design. They may have built it first, but it wasn't their idea either. It's gonna be the trend of all shipbuilding in the next couple decades.

@biggusballuz5405

2 жыл бұрын

Copium, hahahaha.

Love the epilogue about it´s greatest enemy! :-D Soooo true!

Geat info. thanks inside informaation

China: Let's see... some new US destroyer design for reference, good for cop..... WAIT AM I COPYING MYSELF?

@anguswaterhouse9255

2 жыл бұрын

10:19 he has them side by side you tell me there is anything other than marginal similarities

@mokutan8334

2 жыл бұрын

@@anguswaterhouse9255 sure, just like f35 and j35

@anguswaterhouse9255

2 жыл бұрын

@@mokutan8334 The thing is fighters can be copied without looking the same the j-20 is a copycat of f-22 and f-35 trying to compete with f-22 and being made with stolen f-35 secrets and when i say marginal similaritys i mean potential wieght being with 2,000 tons of each other and the us destroyers having a bridge that looks similar but flipped, if you look at the designs the us destroyer is leaner longers and has that section in the middle meant for more advanced systems yet to be developed it also uses that new engine sytem which china does not yet have which he mentions later on in the video but most importantly. This is a concept whicle the j-35 is an actual plane they have built this thing WILL change before it is built but the j-35 is locked in as a clone

@rx302

2 жыл бұрын

@@anguswaterhouse9255 it won't become a copy because it won't be built. Otherwise, that ship will looks like 055 and ally-berkes give birth to it

@45641560456405640563

2 жыл бұрын

@@anguswaterhouse9255 100%. No idea what people are thinking...

I would think a bunch of drones would be a must for ASW mission since modern SSGN SSN would become the main threat.

Being designed for future upgrades is significant. You get something right away and you can improve later on. Much better than shoving in unproven technology and risk having nothing in the end.

Thank you.👍

They should still go with a tumble home design, heard some positive things from the zumwalt trials. Could still make a stealthy ship. As matter of why not just salvage more from zumwalt program, that could minimize cost of a totally new development research

New Flight III Arleigh Burke destroyers can replace the old Ticonderoga cruisers and 1st gen Burke destroyers as a stopgap until a new futuristic DDGX class can be built on time and at cost that is based on mature drone, hypersonic, and directed energy weapons technology while being able to generate all the extra needed juice.

That blue ocean looks sooo nice 😍

The decades if research (failed US Navy projects) was worthwhile, if you look at it in terms of information. We learned a lot about the limits of technology.

No one is talking about the lack of skilled workers to build these new ships. You can order hundreds of ships but if there is no one to build it you won't get it.

@arveduilastking546

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe they build them in China. ;)

@minxbade

2 жыл бұрын

@@arveduilastking546 That made me laugh so you got the like. You aren't wrong about China. A quote from an article in the Defense News "Chinese shipyards crank out new ships at a breakneck pace, with the People’s Liberation Army Navy commissioning three new warships a day earlier this year - or “almost half as many as the US will induct in one year.”

@royhuang9715

2 жыл бұрын

@@minxbade forget about building new ships. US doesn’t even have enough worker and shipyard to keep their existing ship maintained properly. Look at the corrosion on some of new US vessels. And the backlog of subs waiting to be maintain in harbor.

@minxbade

2 жыл бұрын

@@royhuang9715 Yep, we are starting to look like the former soviet union after their collapse. mismanagement from the top down.

2:18 wow! Sideways launch of ship, possibly at Fincantieri yard in Wisconsin.

@MrFlatage

2 жыл бұрын

Just put them on wheels and drive them into the sea with your Xbox controller. Plenty of videos of very expensive brandnew ships launched sideways that topple over. Why the modern world of shipbuilding moved on decades ago. It's like rubbing sticks together to make fire, lmao!!

Those shots of the USS Milius's bow: nice

I know the Navy has investigated methods of 3D printing ship hulls for destroyers. Personally, I have a similar idea--vacuum cold welded. That is, two extrusion heads roll out 1/8" square wire (of cold rolled steel) using pressure in a vacuum to cause bonding. The sides of the wire would be brushed as it extrudes to eliminate any oxidization to a firm cold weld. I am not sure what the best pressure would be for this but would probably start with 200 pounds or so. It shouldn't require that much. One extrusion head would roll out steel from stern to bow while the other follows closely behind top-down with the bulkheads. The method would have limitations on some tight turns but this should be overall doable. This system could easily produce several full sized destroyer shells per day. That is, the hull, bulkheads, all decks (above and below) and extra structure. Obviously, there still remains a lot of work filling out the rest but the overall cost and time should be considerably reduced. Also, I tried cold welding stainless steel and it seems to work well. Although more expensive, such vessels could have less maintenance and much longer life spans, in addition to being amuned to magnetic mines. I wonder if titanium would work? If so, it's very expensive but would result is a very light weight and exceptionally fast destroyer. Using this square wire extrusion technique, there will also be flexibilities in fine structure for substantially enhanced impact resistance and other strength qualities. Personally, I would agree with the diesel electric propulsion because it is 3 times as energy efficient (perhaps toroidal propellers would make that 6 times), provides immediate full torque, and is also quiet. However, I would rely more on ultracapacitors for power regulation and short-term storage. Look at Skullcap technology, for example. They will charge very quickly and expel at variable rates, in addition to having unlimited recharge cycles without loss of capacity.

Finally common sense designs to replace cruisers and destroyers as well.. wothout breaking the budget like zumwalts.

i got it,i got it,the chinese traveled to the future and copyed the ship.it must be!Im so brilliant,nobody knows copy better than me.trust me.

@ssaimun590

2 жыл бұрын

hahah..

@vkqtran4721

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, that’s funny because the Chinese are copy-cats.

thanks Kermit very interesting

Its a nice looking concept ship I hope that is the actual look it looks more like a warship

Looks like China's type 055

@user-zj4sl1oz4y

2 жыл бұрын

China retroactively copied the US. Sneaky move😂

Design looks more pragmatic. I think when it comes to fighter/warship design, usually there tends to be just a few 'optimal' approaches. As it is no surprise most of the 5th gen stealth fighters design converge. Same trend is observed for destroyers/frigates.

@anguswaterhouse9255

2 жыл бұрын

The difference is for stealth fighters the appearance effects RCS so designs that work like the F-22 are copied while designs which don't like Su-57 aren't

Thing with the zumwalt is apprently the pain (same for jets) are prone to quick algie build up impacting it's stealth so they need almost constant maintenance.

@MrFlatage

2 жыл бұрын

The pain of being uneducated? Lacking the education fro spell and form a coherent sentences? Yes I feel your pain.

@Imperial_Cosmonaut

2 жыл бұрын

Jets build up agae?

@MrFlatage

2 жыл бұрын

@@Imperial_Cosmonaut Please explain 'agae'?

@Dazzxp

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrFlatageDo you spend your life on KZread looking for comments with typos and grammatically incorrect sentences. Calling people uneducated because they have dyslexia? That's one thing that education can't fix is the superiority complex some people have.

love to watch images of our craft.

I wonder if the modular payload will be able to add more on, so if needed one vessel can bring incredible firepower.

Damn it.. I wished that the next gen destroyers will look like Zumwalts.. Sad to see it goes the more conventional road.

I hope they are also going to take some lessons and capabilities from the Littoral Combat ship program, like the automations, better damage control systems, modular crew quarters and mission modules, and not trying to play around with aluminum hulls. The larger helicopter bay is where the crew and mission modules are installed on the littoral ships. The automation and modular crew quarters can give crew huge amounts of space and is easy to replace when it wears out.

Standard Burke destroyer bow design appears to ship much more water in heavy seas and would slow the ship more in those conditions as well as stressing the seals in the gun turrets and other hull openings. Tri-hull designs appear to be more torpedo resistant than the standard keel-break scenario under the center of the ship. Zumwalt type superstructure and tumble-home looks stealthy

honestly these destroyers are basically cruisers at this point

@Zachomara

2 жыл бұрын

The Zumwalt was a cruiser they called a destroyer. However this is probably a smaller weapons platform since the US is migrating away from big singular ships due to the necessity of possibly sustaining through combat losses.

@fatdoi003

2 жыл бұрын

yeah and UK is building a 8000t frigate

@Zachomara

2 жыл бұрын

@@fatdoi003 I didn't say anything about the UK. I was referring to the US.

@fatdoi003

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zachomara i'm just referring to size vs name

@tunaritoope2059

2 жыл бұрын

They should all be called combat ships. WW2 era classification is not really fitting anymore.

This is as insane as all the other arms races. A racket for Raytheon.

I hope we did learn things from the Zumwalt that we are able to reuse in this design.

Looks like a mix of that new Italian PPA frigate & a bit of USS Zumwalt with a long front bow similar to the proposed fancy Russian Lider class cruiser...

@titfortat5727

2 жыл бұрын

You need to see the new Italian destroyer ddx which is the same.

Spending a shitload of money on the Zumwalt and not building them.

@thisisntsergio1352

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine

@nathan4750

2 жыл бұрын

it would take even more money to build and run them so the navy cancelled them

LOL. Its only a coincidence that these two classes of ships share similar stealth profiles, propulsion configurations, and vertical launch system placements. I guess the type 055 got it right.

@MS-qx9uw

Жыл бұрын

hmm… maybe look at the Arleigh Burke DDGs, they’ve been operating since the 90s and were the first ships to look like that

For the proposed model, I think she's a sight prettier than the zumwalts, all 3 of them. Especially love that bow design.

I was in the Navy in the 80’s and 90’s. I miss the Nuke cruisers and Battleships. My favorite was the Long Beach but I also really liked the Virginia class. It’s too bad the US doesn’t still produce nuke battle fleet. Talk about saving fuel and adding capabilities.

@crowfurprouductions7545

2 жыл бұрын

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You didn’t say that only peace can bring us together. That’s disturbing.

@d283jdsk2

2 жыл бұрын

Binkov is Russian. Only war can bring Ukraine and Russia together.

@hectoraccented5312

2 жыл бұрын

We can let it pass if the video is not about a imaginary conflict but about news of approved guidelines for a future contract...

@MaxwellAerialPhotography

2 жыл бұрын

@@d283jdsk2 the binkov crew isn’t Russian. They are from Croatia, although i think they live and work in Britain.

@d283jdsk2

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaxwellAerialPhotography i know

Navy is repeating the Spruance class strategy. During 1970 the USN had to replace their old Gearing class destroyers after Vietnam War and counter Soviet navy numbers after Afghanistan invasion. Many Spruances were launched with gun, ASROC, 2 LAMP ASW hel and Sea Sparrow air defense missiles. It had large super structure that was empty with plenty of room for additions in electronics and additional weapons. Later batches were upgrade of initial ship design. The improvements were retrofitted to the early ships. The Spruance procurement allow for cost efficient construction and launch of replacement destroyers with the flexibility to add more modern upgrades in the future. Only weakness to the design was the usage of aluminum super structure. The British experience in the Falkland War proved that aluminum was not survivable to ship fires caused by missile damage.

@2paulcoyle

2 жыл бұрын

I guess navy guys never threw empty beer cans into a camp fire, They had lots of welding failures at the Aluminum to steel hull. And then corrosion with two large different metals.

@raywhitehead730

2 жыл бұрын

Feel 1776 is mostly correct.

@rogersmith7396

2 жыл бұрын

Doped canvas would be easily repairable. Available in many stunning colors, not just the same old grey. Dior and Bill Blass editions. Get underaged sweatshop workers in the carribean to produce cheaply.

@rogersmith7396

2 жыл бұрын

@@2paulcoyle Now how would buying steel help Kaiser Aluminum? Use your head for gods sake.

Proud us Navy veteran here. Our Navy is definitely in need of an upgrade to counter the shenanigans of certain dictatorships in the world.

@MrFlatage

2 жыл бұрын

Proof of Service then ... Your Navy? Haha your a commie, lmao!!

@warbuzzard7167

2 жыл бұрын

What about OUR dictatorship?

@MrFlatage

2 жыл бұрын

@@warbuzzard7167 I love how you all hide behind your fake names like cowards, lmao!

If we're going to build a small fleet of 13000 tonne ships, it becomes more economical to build a smaller fleet of more survivable weapons platforms with missile superiority. Up the displacement to 22000 tonnes and make her a CGN. The Burke's are an excellent platform, but they have become generalists. In a massed fleet action they will be pulling triple duty, ASW, AAW, and Anti-Surface. The fleet needs a new line of defense for the CV, and something that can make a difference in the opening stages of battle.

"69 radar blocks" Me: Nice 👌

@Gentleman...Driver

2 жыл бұрын

Have a look at 1:52 As a sailor I would do anything to serve on that ship. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I hate that the Zumwalt design didn’t really work out. That was an intimidating looking ship.

@negativeindustrial

2 жыл бұрын

What was the issue with it?

@middleclassthrash

2 жыл бұрын

@@negativeindustrial It was built to house railguns and the railguns didn't work out.

@mrchocolatebean8878

2 жыл бұрын

@@middleclassthrash not railguns. The Zumwalt does not have railguns nor was designed to have them. The major problem was because of the really expensive ammunition. And that's not the only problem.

@MrFlatage

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrchocolatebean8878 Specifically designed to host railguns in fact. Can we see proof and evidence to your claim? Else this is a major problem.

@negativeindustrial

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, y’all. Much appreciated.

They need to weaponize AESA radars to also function as directed energy weapons that can disable the electronic guidance systems of incoming missiles.

@deansmits006

Жыл бұрын

They have some of that functionally already

US Navy is tops where it counts: Powerpoint.

Could you do a vid on the Type 26 Class of UK/Canada/Australia?

Well the US was working on railguns for so many years and gave up. Worked on lasers for so many years and haven't got anything useful yet. Worked on hypersonic weapons for so long and haven't got anywhere. Now I am having concerns about this ship that is still on papers and would probably not come out this decade.

@hectoraccented5312

2 жыл бұрын

Hypersonic supposedly is just getting ready for deployment, that's why the Navy want bigger missile cells since those things are big-

@kameronjones7139

2 жыл бұрын

The us lasers have done pretty well in testing on multiple platforms

My favorite is the Kidd class, based only on the design of course

Type 45 will now be armed with 72 short and long range SAMs. 128 is good, but could be _much_ better, pushing for 200.

@avkk2314

2 жыл бұрын

It depends on weight of the ship and missiles.

@thomaszhang3101

2 жыл бұрын

Ladies and gents, I present you the Kirov class, eh, destroyer.

US: no the type 055 is a cruiser >:( also: our arleigh destroyer needs more tonnage for DDG(X)

@raideurng2508

2 жыл бұрын

And an F-16, a lightweight fighter is 12 metric tons, compared to 6 for the F-86 Sabre. Times change.

@Attaxalotl

2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t know the Saber was that light! That’s like, a big truck nowadays!

@thatoneguynextdoor8794

2 жыл бұрын

@@raideurng2508 yeah but the 055 is new too

At first I thought it was an exaggeration but no, that looks EXACTLY like the type 55. Wild. The only way I can tell them apart is the slightly smaller CWIS/rolling block battery on the front... This is of course just a render, not the final design. Maybe someone got lazy on the presentation : Edit: This is a fantastic proposal. The places it innovates are specifically high value, like the distributed gas turbines and potential for larger missiles. The larger hangar and potential for drones is great, even though the Navy continues to underestimate them and fail to produce enough of them. Best of all, no stealth delusions. Stealth arguably works well on planes in part because they are smaller, faster, and able to take better advantage of radar horizons. They take less time inside detection range to do their job and have more things that can look like nothing of concern. For a boat though, any radar return at all is basically garunteed to be a boat, and ships can mount more larger radars on them, with no terrain to hide behind. Not to mention it works fundamentally less well, especially with all the noise it makes and all its enemies already equipped with sonar and the like... I like this. It better not come out looking like that though or we'll have a lot of friendly fire lol.

@frey8658

Жыл бұрын

I guess Chinese stole the design from future US engineer’s mind and build before they put the idea into blueprints

@EGvids1

Жыл бұрын

That’s right. DDGX is a US copy of China’s Type 55. Shame on the US

A detailed look at the new destroyer. The preliminary design stage will start next year.

Hey Binky! What's going on? I like your show!Thanks