Respect from Hungary to all my Uralic homies!

@gx8con17

3 жыл бұрын

No hate, but to be honest you hungarians are like 2 % uralic from your ancestry. Uralic blood is long lost in hungary and only language has staid.

@lsztmjr5240

3 жыл бұрын

@@gx8con17 yeah bro you are right. We are very mixed nowadays.

@gx8con17

3 жыл бұрын

@@lsztmjr5240 Heres a long comment that i wrote to other video about hungarian and ugric history, maybe you find it interesting: How uralic speakers went to hungary: Long time ago in ural mountains there was 3 brother tribes, the khanty, mansi and magyar. The magyar allied with huns or some related people and probably became part of onogur tribal alliance (turkic warriors/horsemen) they rode to europe then where hungary is now. Its also related to bulgarians who used to live in east next to finno-ugrics. Magyars were uralic speaking so although they allied with turkic tribes tho onogur they kept their own language too. These magyar tribesmen became leaders in hungary and thats why the language is still speaked there, but blood of those original uralid magyars from east has faided away long time ago. Original magyars looked similar to khantys and mansi people. Mix between siberian natives and europeans. Modern magyars dont have really nothing common with those original magyars. I think the name ugrian might actually come from times when the uralic tribes khanty, mansi and magyar were in alliance with turkic tribes known as onogur/ogur that were also living in western siberia next to them at some point. So the name ugor/yugor/now ugric might actually be from that alliance to ogur. Onogur= ogur= ugor/yugor = ugric. I did read that name of khanty might also be from that time of turkic alliance and its related to turkic word Khan maybe, because the khanty were sometype of local elite back then in north, mansi also being some type warrior society as the word mansi migh also mean something like that. Altough the name ugrian and khanty migh be actually the name and word of turkic origin and people, the ugrians themself did not have much turkic ancestry. Ugrians had earlier themself came from mix of uralic samoyed type of natives from deeper siberia that came to contact with europid indo european people when they reached south western siberia land between kama and irtysh. The samoyeds who staid bit more east are also uralic, but as they did not come as much contact to those indo european folks they staid more closer to original "uralic" speakers asian look and language without mixing to those europids and their indo european languages as much. theres lots of people in world that mistakenly think that uralic languages are of european origin because the homeland was believed to be between kama and irtysh that was populated by europid people,,, but thats not possible because those europid people in that "uralic homeland" were probably allready talking indo european language because the findings are related to indo europeans from that time, fhile the uralic languages were still coming from east probably along the ob river somewhere deeper from siberia. Well i feel like the real uralic origin homeland might been the ob and irtysh river shores that along they came to northern ural from east. Some of them then move down and come to contact to those indo european europid folks. When they mixed it creates the half asian half white/half uralic half indo european people = aka finno-ugrics., while the samoyeds stay just uralics as they stay in east in the volga irtysh part towards altai/sayan/baikal region. Some of those samoyeds in east then mix to the yenisayan natives/ket and that creates the selkup peoples, while nenets, nganasan, enets ancestors at some point head towards ural and taimyr in north. Well this theory supports the old samoyed stories that they lived in northern altai in old times before moving north and ural. Plus yakuts/sakha, yugakhirs, buryats and nanai east from uralics seem to be partly from uralic ancestry too. So i assume those "uralics" that staid in east were assimilated to mongolian and tungusic tribes while some tribes continued to west to ural and became the uralics.

@krisztianwirsz3612

3 жыл бұрын

I am pretty well versed in ancient Hungarian history, also studied lingustics in university and been reading about genetics for a while. You gotta admit there is something mysteriously unclear about how modern theories explain Hungarian ethnogenesis. A small, insignificant Uralic tribe that became the largest Finno-Ugric speaking nation, larger than all other Finno-Ugrics put together....

@desilvakym1544

3 жыл бұрын

FunFact:hungarians are more slavic than most of slav nations :D

I only speak estonian and finnish (and some russian), but the Russian TV clips sound like russian is the speakers first language - they have a very strong russian accent

@ahtogusuk

2 жыл бұрын

most of the uralic languages spoken in russia are almost extinct and are very slavicized

@Gifciit64gh

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. From Russia, Veps language seemed something closest to ours, but you could definitely distinguish the Russian accent when she was pronouncing the vowels.

@ahtogusuk

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gifciit64gh i can still understand it almost fluently because I am from finland

@Gifciit64gh

2 жыл бұрын

@@ahtogusuk I see. Yeah that and Karelian should be closer to you.

@davidburda1280

2 жыл бұрын

That's how pretty much all speakers of those languages sound like nowadays though, even when it is their first language. And it doesn't happen only in Russia - you can see a similar trend for example in Upper Sorbian, which, although it is a Slavic language, has a very German-like "standard" pronunciation.

It's actually crazy how Karelian sounded like perfect Finnish with a slight Russian accent. Same with Meänkieli, it sounded like a Lappish dialect of Finnish

@connor6694

3 жыл бұрын

i think i accidentally used finnish for that clip instead of karelian :/ but the comment still makes sense with karelian

@nameless1069

3 жыл бұрын

@@connor6694 Are you sure? Because that is definitely not a Finnish TV channel? Also it says "Karelija" on the top right corner

@connor6694

3 жыл бұрын

@@nameless1069 i think it is in karelian and maybe the commenter was wrong

@user-ce6iy2nw5o

3 жыл бұрын

meänkieli is the dialect but only a language because of political reasons

@katti2227

3 жыл бұрын

@@nameless1069 Viestit karjala makes videos in 3 languages, Veps, Finnish and Karelian

Almost all the languages spoken here have a similar cadence when the words are pronounced and formed into sentences. That’s really neat, even if the speakers would not understand each other. I can sense how they are related even if they are misunderstood. It almost sounds like sing-talking while rising and falling in one’s tone and speaking languages completely unrelated to English. Amazing.

@nicoleraheem1195

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

wow, hats off to your efforts for putting up all this together and making such an amazing video. As a linguist it would definitely help me a lot

Wow! I am a native English speaker, and to me, Nenets has a very Japanese/Korean sound to it, with almost a "tonal" feel to it! And also, Northern Sami sounds almost like an Eskimo/Aleut/Inuit language! Amazing!

@Uralicchannel

3 жыл бұрын

uralo siberian language theory

@hannahwalmer1124

3 жыл бұрын

Nenets sounded like Kazakh to me

@Vampybattie

3 жыл бұрын

@@hannahwalmer1124 nahhh sounded more language of north America

@HBC101TVStudios

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vampybattie some linguists are trying to unite the Uralic languages with the Siberian languages of Russia and the Eskimo languages (Uralo-Siberian) in North America i.e in Northwest Territories (Canada), Alaska (USA), Greenland (Denmark) and also in Eastern Siberia in Russia..

@HBC101TVStudios

3 жыл бұрын

@sneksnekitsasnek Some words has similar cognates and basic words

Võro and Finnish are understandable for me as an Estonian. Veps and Karelian also to some extent, but they seem to have strong Russian influence that makes them harder to understand.

@LuffyxNamiisathing

Жыл бұрын

Karelia belonged to Finland bte

@xstar9567

Жыл бұрын

@@LuffyxNamiisathing never did tho, Finland was not even Independent until 1918

@finnicpatriot6399

Жыл бұрын

@@xstar9567 Karelia is Finnish. Cope. Independence has nothing to do with it. You don't need full nation-statehood to have agency.

@whaleacademic7750

Жыл бұрын

@@finnicpatriot6399 No, Karelia is Karelian. Not Finnish, or Russian. Just like you said, independence has nothing to do with it and you don't need full nation-statehood to have agency. Karelian language and culture has been it's own thing for as long as Finnish culture has. Of course since there are more similarities with Finnish language and culture than anything else (except for maybe veps and ingrian) since they are both baltic-finnic peoples, some Finnish people can't seem to tell the difference and want to label anything that they can even remotely relate to as Finnish cause we still can't comperehend the concept of related languages for some reason. Karelia has been a borderland for centuries, so naturally, there will be Karelians who have been more assimilated to Finnish society and even more of them who have been assimilated to Russian society since most of Karelia is and has always been in Russia.

@limonadiautomaattimekaanikko

9 ай бұрын

@@whaleacademic7750 What an idiotic comment. You must be a Russian propaganda bot. Karelians are a subtribe of finnish people, just like savonians, tavastians and others. I am Karelian and I am Finnish. My Karelian family fled their homes when the communists attacked. Karelians have not assimilated to Russian society, because "Karelia is and has always been in Russia", most Karelians had to flee to Finland from soviet aggression, and most who remained were sent into labour camps or forcefully assimilated by the soviet regime. The majority of Karelians live in Finland and our culture is actively practiced and preserved here unlike in Russia. Karelia is literally the birthplace of Finnish culture. There is nothing more finnish than Karelia. Russia only stole our homeland, but that doesn't change anything.

What wonderful languages! 😍 I JUST LOVE THEM!! ❤️❤️❤️

@hunsuconab9538

3 жыл бұрын

I am researching a few things about the Sami language. This video has a Sami/English translation, but I don't know how accurate it is. Can you see if it is true or not? :)) kzread.info/dash/bejne/eq2Gw9Bwn7i7gZM.html

Wow, Meankieli (The Swedish minority) the tone and emphasis sounds similar to how Hungarians flow with the words. It's almost like a Hungarian speaker using an unknown language but follows the Hungarian tone. The other languages we can clearly hear the influence of Russian for no surprise, while the modern Hungarian is influenced by Slavic and Turkish and German too (for no surprise)

@untitled6578

5 ай бұрын

As a Finnish speaker, I can't hear much difference between Meänkieli and Finnish. I understood everything that the Meänkieli woman said

@GrayishTea

17 күн бұрын

​@@untitled6578 I think mäenkieli is just a finnish dialect.

Great video ! These languages have difficult grammar with so many cases. Real challenge for Indo European language speakers.:)

@wtc5198

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, most Slavic languages have 7. Assuming by your username, you're East Slavic? And the Uraluc cases are easier because of the absence of gender and the fact that they don't have a lot of declensions like Indo-European languages because they're agglutinative, not fusional

@irinakolcheva5212

2 жыл бұрын

@@wtc5198 I' m South Slavic, Bulgarian and my languages doesn' t have any cases.☺

@wtc5198

2 жыл бұрын

@@irinakolcheva5212 Ah the weirdest Slavic language. I'm a Serbo-Croatian speaker from Belgrade and I've always thought Bulgarian is so interesting! The articles, the evidentiality, the hard sign vowel! Sorry for forgetting that Bulgarian surnames end in "-ev,-ov" and "-eva,-ova"

@wtc5198

Жыл бұрын

@@mmbol6551 partly, all grammatical features have a purpose

@wtc5198

Жыл бұрын

@@mmbol6551 grammatical gender has many. David J Peterson has a video explaining the purposes on his channel, i can't remember the title

Everyone else is being Eminem while hungarian is like -2 és 5 fok közt várható Frick say it already I ain't got no time

@hunsuconab9538

3 жыл бұрын

I am researching a few things about the Sami language. This video has a Sami/English translation, but I don't know how accurate it is. Can you see if it is true or not? :)) kzread.info/dash/bejne/eq2Gw9Bwn7i7gZM.html

Funny thing is that as an Estonian, when these languages are spoken, they don't sound as similar as when they are sung. Is it also the case for other uralic language speakers? When they speak, the languages sound either more finnish or russian for me.

@LuffyxNamiisathing

Жыл бұрын

Well as a Finn i hear many Finnish words in Estonian language but they mean completely different things

Where is my Ěrzäń? Cool video!

@connor6694

4 жыл бұрын

i couldn't find it i am sorry

Easy to hear where to trace the sound of Russian which is so unique among the Slavic languages. Where did you collect the samples of Komi, Udmurt and Mari? - I'd like to listen to the original pieces for longer specimens. Thx

that "karelian" was finnish, viestit karjala is a 3 languaged channel that makes news in all the minority languages of karelia (finnish, veps and karelian)

@hunsuconab9538

3 жыл бұрын

I am researching a few things about the Sami language. This video has a Sami/English translation, but I don't know how accurate it is. Can you see if it is true or not? :)) kzread.info/dash/bejne/eq2Gw9Bwn7i7gZM.html

Oh wow nennet sounds like Ainu language

Hello from Udmurtia

Such a treat to the ears 🧁

Good video

As a Germanic language native (ok, UK English!), I'm still struggling with Romance languages. The Uralic languages seem too far off to me, I can't cope with the grammar, though I'd love to have some knowledge of the Uralic languages. I love the sounds of Russian and Slavic languages and can understand at least a few words of them.... but the Uralic... might as well be Basque lol

@NUMleaderNUMleader

6 ай бұрын

Germanic originated in northern Germany and southern Norway, and Netherlands. Uralic originated in South Siberia and north Asia and north Kazakhstan. Slavic languages originated in eastern Poland and northern Ukraine. Romance originated in Rome, Sicily and Corsica. Germanic and Slavic may be related.

Mari sounds like a Russian version of Scottish Gaelic

the girl who spoke nenetian(samoed) language looks just like native amerindian

@yourmum8434

3 жыл бұрын

Thats bcuz native americans* (native americans have nothing to do with indians, they r not indian, they r american) r originally descended from ancient siberians. They populated both of the americas from the top down.

@pingoleonfernandez7638

3 жыл бұрын

No way. Amerindians are way darker. But it's true that she has a close resemblance, because there was an ancient migration of siberian peoples to the American continent, and they form the basis of the indigenous american ancestry.

@keptins

3 жыл бұрын

Turkic too

@hunsuconab9538

3 жыл бұрын

I am researching a few things about the Sami language. This video has a Sami/English translation, but I don't know how accurate it is. Can you see if it is true or not? :)) kzread.info/dash/bejne/eq2Gw9Bwn7i7gZM.html

@user-xn8od6qw5k

3 жыл бұрын

Looks more Mongolian than native American.

meänkieli and karelian (also Ingrian, what was not included in the video) are very similar to Finnish, (Estonian too, but not that much)

@sectorgovernor

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't meankieli a dialect?

@katti2227

3 жыл бұрын

The clip was finnish and not karelian

@katti2227

3 жыл бұрын

@ i speak meänkieli and its a language

@katti2227

3 жыл бұрын

pauli fan gril 1234 Meänkieltä (joka on virallisesti hyväksytty kieleksi) ei puhuta suomessa

@pcgaming7680

3 жыл бұрын

@@sectorgovernor its considered a language

I love my language relatives! ❤❤ From Finland with love! ❤️❤️

To be honest, it sounds like all of the Russian-based Ugric languages are being spoken by native Russian language speakers who have learned the Uralic language through the medium of Russian, which results in a really garbled and heavy accent. This is particularly true with the (likely moribund) Finnic languages like Veps and Karelian where any real continued community usage of these languages has been non-existent for some time, and the small efforts made by the Russian state to keep it alive are woefully insufficient and just ends up making the languages sound like heavily-accented Finnish...although this is just my opinion.

@vorkutavchera

Жыл бұрын

I'm not finno-ugric speaker, but heard many times villagers from different parts of Komi and some Mari. Average speak really sounds like these. Veps girl really sounding like her native language is russian.

@Unbrutal_Rawr

Жыл бұрын

This comment is funny, because in truth it's precisely the other way around. The abundant soft consonants of Russian were originally characteristic of Uralic. Much of the territory of European Russia used to be Uralic-speaking, so Russian is Slavic spoken with a Uralic accent. Finnish on the other hand lost all of its soft consonants as a result of heavy contact with Germanic, which is why it now sounds so different from the rest, even Estonian.

@mattiamele3015

Жыл бұрын

@@Unbrutal_Rawr Estonian does have some softening (palatalization) of consonants.

@Eugensson

Жыл бұрын

As someone who has lived in Siberia where the Nenets are the main minority, I can assure you the one in the video speaks natively (there are virtually zero native Russian speakers who learn Nenets, unfortunately). Also, native Nenets speakers have the prosody and phonetics very similar to Russian, most likely due to the centuries of exposure to it (Russian was forced on them in their daily lives).

@Eugensson

Жыл бұрын

@@Unbrutal_Rawr This is a very interesting hypothesis. Any suggestions where to read about it?

As a finn i could understand estonian, voro and mäenkieli really well

I am Swedish, but some of my ancestors were Meänkieli speaking Torne valley Finns.

Did you remove the Karelian language because I can't find it from the video?

0:02 "szard tele" (means "shit all over it" in Hungarian 😂)

I am Karelian and besides Finnish and Estonian the others sound very different to me.

Nobody: Absolutely nobody: Finno-ugric languages: éééééééééééééééééééééééööööööööööööö

@ducksareurlords3782

9 ай бұрын

Depends on the language really, we finns don't have "é" at all and ö appears in hungarian and komi more often than in finnish

Nice,I would love to learn a uralic language

@sankari6114

3 жыл бұрын

Siitä vaan opiskelemaan

@elporrovegano

3 жыл бұрын

@@sankari6114 Niin!

@Cigmacica

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t even try, I’m French Hungarian and Hungarian is my second language and even like this it’s hard

@szimonettaster

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cigmacica at least give them a chance, don't say "don't even try".....

@kullulillu

2 жыл бұрын

Love from Estonia 🇪🇪!

I have Kven ancestry on my father's side. For those who don't know, Kvens are Finnish people that live in the northern parts of Norway. Sadly I never learned the language since I live in the southern part of Norway.

I am from Hungary and most of Hungarians says that our language is relatives to turks languages. I used to learn Finnish language and the grammar is 90% similar to Hungarian, many words are very similar. But... we had Turkish, slavic and germanic invasions, Finland had russian and swedish invasino so words get differerent. Anyway I welcome all our Finno-Ugoric relatives in this world.

@jout738

9 ай бұрын

Hungarians tend to accept some of Altaic people to be part of their tribe, when they moved to Hungary, so thats why some people think hungarian is altaic language, when it isent, when it just haves heavy influece from Altaic languages. For me as finnish person its hard to regonize does hungarian even sound Uralic, but maybe its, because I found out that only 21% of their words have Uralic origin anymore, so that means like every fifth word is Uralic and so the language would not sound that Uralic anymore.

@limonadiautomaattimekaanikko

9 ай бұрын

Studied a tiny bit of hungarian as a finn and I came across a lot of similarities in grammar, candence, pronunciation and vocabulary. HU: megy FI: mennä HU: kéz FI: käsi HU: víz FI: vesi etc.

@laszloilles4956

9 ай бұрын

@@limonadiautomaattimekaanikko Terve. Se on totta. A lot of similarity between our languages. and grammar is the strongest explanation.

@limonadiautomaattimekaanikko

9 ай бұрын

@@laszloilles4956 Ezek a hasonlóságok ősiek. A magyarok a többiek előtt hagyták el az Urált, így nyelvüket olyan különlegessé tették. Elnézést, ha rosszul írok. Még csak kezdő vagyok. 😄

@laszloilles4956

9 ай бұрын

@@limonadiautomaattimekaanikko Nagyon jó vagy. :D Így igaz. :D

1:07 I don't know where they speak that language but I already got the cold just from watching their TV show for 5 second 😂

0:50 my favorite one!!

@geogeo9537

3 жыл бұрын

Mine too :)

@thedarkness3766

3 жыл бұрын

@@nicolausteslaus nah it’s hungarian.

@LuffyxNamiisathing

Жыл бұрын

@@thedarkness3766 Meänkieli is Finnish with bits of Swedish. I as a Finn understood everything about that

1:20 Sounds like a native american language. Ive always wondered where native american languages came from. I still havent found any conclusive information.

@gabrielsandoval4994

3 жыл бұрын

God Bless The Internet the Swedish accent very well could influence the sound of the language but I had an understanding that Uralic and Swedish are not related, but Native American languages and Uralic languages have a common ancestor.

@Arginne

3 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielsandoval4994 no. Uralic means from the ural mountains of siberia in russia. No where close to america

@gabrielsandoval4994

3 жыл бұрын

@@Arginne The latest information I’ve seen links at least some Native American tribes to the ancient Siberian’s that migrated from Siberia over the Bering strait. If it’s true or not is not for me to say, but the evidence is compelling.

@connormurphy683

3 жыл бұрын

Na-Dene languages (many languages of northwestern Canada as well as Apache and Navajo) are probably related to the Yeneseian languages of Siberia. Apart from that, there is no evidence that Native American languages are related to any others.

@AnOriginalYouTuber

3 жыл бұрын

I just watched several natives American language videos and yeah, it has a similar rhythm.

Even in the European Uralic languages u can still hear that they come from asia.

@hunsuconab9538

3 жыл бұрын

I am researching a few things about the Sami language. This video has a Sami/English translation, but I don't know how accurate it is. Can you see if it is true or not? :)) kzread.info/dash/bejne/eq2Gw9Bwn7i7gZM.html

@LuffyxNamiisathing

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes because Asian language is like "No ei todellakaan kuulosta samalta, mitäpä jos opettelisit kuuntelemaan tai hankippa kuulolaite"

@mktzi7678

Жыл бұрын

@@LuffyxNamiisathing Raivoa vaan ja suutu tosi asioista. Kyllä uralin kieli on ihan aasialainen ja kaukaa siperiasta. Nenetsit ja muut samojedi kansat niitä oikeita uralin kielisiä ovat. Idästä tänne euroopan puolelle kieli siirtynyt saamelaisten esi isä kansan mukana 4200 vuotta sitten ensin volgalle ja sitten myöhemmin tänne länteen. Mutta se juttu siinä onkin että suomen kieli ei kyllä ole oikeasti pelkästään uralilainen vaan jonkin balttilaisen ja saamen kielen risteymä niinkuin geenitkin + jotain edellistä muinais eurooppalaista "baski" kansa vaikutetta tietenkin mitä täällä oli ennen saamen tuloa idästä. Mitään suomi poikia ja karjalaisia ei ollut olemassakaan ennen kun osa esi saamelaisista jätti kulttuurinsa ja assimiloitui baltian maan viljelys porukkaan 3000-2000 vuotta sitten. Saamen kulttuuri oli kyllä jo ennen sitä olemassa että siitä voi miettiä keneltä kieli on peräisin. Saame huomattavasti uralilaisempi kuin suomen kieli. Nenetsi kaikista uralilaisin kieli mitä nykyään on jäljellä. Suomalainen ja muut maajussit jatkanut uralin kielen puhumista pitääkseen yhteyden pohjoisen heimoihin turkis, talja yms kaupan vuoksi.

@finnicpatriot6399

Жыл бұрын

@@LuffyxNamiisathing Yes, absolutely. You've simply grown up thinking your language sounds European because you've grown up thinking of yourself as European. Other Europeans hear Finnish and get an extremely confused look on their face. Cope and seethe, you low IQ nitwit.

@finnicpatriot6399

Жыл бұрын

@@mktzi7678 Jatka vaan näitä sun psykoosivalheiden levittelyä. Valheella on lyhyet jäljet, ja valehtelijat kuolevat onttoina.

Most of the clips aren't spoken by native speakers so the comparison doesn't work. A normal Finn would understand veps, karelian and meänkieli easily but these clips are mostly spoken by Russian who just reads outloud from paper. If a Finn would go to Russian Karelia he/she could speak Finnish to the locals and the locals could speak Karelian or Veps back and they would understand eachother like 90%.

Small mistake, the "karelian" was finnish

@connor6694

3 жыл бұрын

whoopsie

@johnjohnsonsmith8969

3 жыл бұрын

No it is not. Sorry

@Uralicchannel

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnjohnsonsmith8969 i speak karelian, the "karelian" in that video was speaking finnish minä pagizen karjalakse da se karjalan kieli videol oli inehmine kudai pagizi suomekse da ei karjalan kielel :/

@johnjohnsonsmith8969

3 жыл бұрын

@@Uralicchannel ymmärrän

@Uralicchannel

3 жыл бұрын

@Skeppare 95 she spoke finnish in the video

Love the sound of Komi language 😏

Where is Mansi? That's the most similar to Hungarian.

@connor6694

3 жыл бұрын

sorry i don't have it :/

@aqua5516

3 жыл бұрын

@@connor6694 ☹️ But thanks for the video anyway.

@sectorgovernor

3 жыл бұрын

It is hard to find, but I know some videos where Khanty (another Ugric language) is spoken

@sectorgovernor

3 жыл бұрын

I found spoken Mansi kzread.info/dash/bejne/moF_y9Kylsa7ps4.html

@aqua5516

3 жыл бұрын

@@sectorgovernor Köszönöm!

From that clip Nenets sounds like a mix of Japanese and Russian

Meänkieli just sounds like Finnish spoken by a foreigner who has studied the language for 15 years.

They sound alike evden İ know nothing Türkeş Turkish

@enriquecsmccourt

3 жыл бұрын

@@mehmetkurtkaya3106 kzread.info/dash/bejne/hWmmuseagZWye9I.html

What happened to the Karelian clip?

To me estonian, finnish, hungarian, sami and vōro sound similar.....the other languages have a russian sound😊

Karelian is 100% finnish but in little russian accent

@user-fo2ik1vt4b

3 жыл бұрын

No it isn't bro, he maybe used a wrong clip, I've seen the language and I don't understand all the words because they have Z's a lot like in Hungarian but Finland doesn't and have slightly different words.. . But overall it is the closest to Finnish language...

@gabrielgabriel5177

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-fo2ik1vt4b i mean this karelian is like finnish. I know some karelian dialects are more different but all of them are closest to finnish. Surely russian language has affected to karelian a lot

I think it's not about the accent but more about loanwords.

Who would’ve thought that Hungarian and Finnish are in the same language group? 😂

Wow,uralic women looks gorgeous

Our relatives living in Russia have a very terrible Russian accent. Of course it has its historical background, but it hurts my ears... Anyway: Greetings from Hungary!

@viragerdei1601

9 ай бұрын

​@@AbcdEfgh-mw3nj I'm sniffing romani stink from romani-a. xD

@Trolligi

9 ай бұрын

@@AbcdEfgh-mw3nj what the hell does that have to do with what he said?

where are mordovian, hanti and mansi languages here as well?

Nenet and Finnish are both Indigenous Language groups originating from a common language in Uralic Siberia.

We uralic altaics have suffered for so long but atleast some of us have an independent country!

@sulobimi_2835

2 ай бұрын

Like turkey hungary estonia finland japan and etc

Nenets sounds like she has a stutter.

Did they miss Karelian?

None of these sound even remotely similar to Hungarian, except Saami. Hungarian here.

@Metallic_Gaijin_Hu

3 жыл бұрын

A finn "dallama" erősen hasonlít a magyaréra.

@HBC101TVStudios

3 жыл бұрын

Mansi is the closest to Hungarian

@krisztianwirsz3612

3 жыл бұрын

@@HBC101TVStudios I am Hungarian and hear almost zero similarity. I am also an "unfinished" applied linguist.

@guul66

3 жыл бұрын

afaik hungarian is very seprate of the other uralic languages, but i might be mistaken

@wtc5198

2 жыл бұрын

@@krisztianwirsz3612 That's just because polish and other Slavic languages have influenced Hungarian. Don't say you believe Hungarian is related to Turkish, Etruscan or Sumerian. Those languages are far less similar to Hungarian than Mansi is

The meänkieli speaker is clearly not a native speaker. My grandma is from Swedish Tornevalley and her accent doesn't sound Swedish at all

Estonian Finnish Hungarian Komi Permyak Mari Meänkieli Nenets Northern Sami Udmurt Veps Võro

Same, Finnish and Estonian are clearly related. As a Hungarian speaker, I think we are the odd ones out.

@LuffyxNamiisathing

Жыл бұрын

But your language sounds like Russia so no you are not the odd ones tbh

@titan9259

Жыл бұрын

@@LuffyxNamiisathing Sounds nothing like Russian or any Indo European language because it isn't.

@Xmarcello88

11 ай бұрын

Because Hungarian is not a Finno-Ugric language... No wonder why it does not sound similar to any of them. (Nope it's clearly not a Turkic language either, it's just an isolated language having a bunch of finno-ugric and later turkic, then slavic influences.

@davidkosiba624

6 ай бұрын

​@@Xmarcello88Lol it has many similarities with Uralic languages , way too much to not be related , it is just that we are seperated for like 1500 years now and we moved to a very different enviroment and got influenced from languages that the other uralic people didn't

0:31 that sounds SO MUCH like Russia though 1:02 that sounds like a mix of Russian and Japanese

Im finnish speaker myself and mäenkieli is weird one, because its finnish, but sounds little old.

My favorite uralic language 1:01

Funny how all the ones spoken in Russia also sound quite similar to Russian while the others don't.

@yorgunsamuray

Жыл бұрын

I saw a similar pattern for Celtic language compilations, where Breton has a strong French accent. The main language does influence the minority ones.

@ivani3237

10 ай бұрын

because in regular life nobody speaks those languages in Russia (unfortunately)

@katalinszepnefarkas6273

27 күн бұрын

Every body forgets that we Hungarians live in the middle of Europe for more than 1000 years not in Russia.

@SorinSilaghi

27 күн бұрын

@@katalinszepnefarkas6273 what does that have to do with anything?

1:22

A nyenyec néni nagyon csini😗

what is the mutual intelligibility of these languages?

@untitled6578

5 ай бұрын

As a Finnish speaker I fully understand Meänkieli (like the difference between New York and Texas English). Veps is pretty understandable, Estonian and Võro are somewhat understandable while Northern Sámi I can catch a couple words here and there (though not in this clip). The others have 0% intelligibility - may as well be Vietnamese.

The meänkieli was just finnish…

Northern Sami sounds very similar to Hungarian.

The uralic ones inside russia territory sound like dialects of russian.

@connor6694

3 жыл бұрын

i think russian may have influenced it to sound that way :)

@hunsuconab9538

3 жыл бұрын

I am researching a few things about the Sami language. This video has a Sami/English translation, but I don't know how accurate it is. Can you see if it is true or not? :)) kzread.info/dash/bejne/eq2Gw9Bwn7i7gZM.html

@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367

2 жыл бұрын

they use many russian words.. the one sin siberia and such have a mongolian/turkish sound to them .. because they are dominated by turki speakers..

@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367

2 жыл бұрын

@godloveamerica lastname the accent sounds russian and they use technical words of russian origin, you may not understand anything they say but there is a russian influence on the uralic languages

@yoprstbukhalov

2 жыл бұрын

@godloveamerica lastname Mari❓🤔

That karelian was finnish and not karelian

@connor6694

4 жыл бұрын

i recorded it from a karelian news broadcast in russia and it specified it was karelian

@katti2227

4 жыл бұрын

connor Viestit karjalan is a 3 languages channel with Finnish, karelian and vepsian

@katti2227

4 жыл бұрын

connor i speak karelian and finnish and that was finnish ( minä pagizen suomekse da karjalakse da neče oli suomen kieldy )

@connor6694

4 жыл бұрын

@@katti2227 oh :( i guess i recorded the wrong one

@markkunissinen

4 жыл бұрын

@@katti2227 With a very noticeable accent. But tell me this: is that nick of yours for real?

Udmurt sounds like a weird Russian...

@Genso326

3 жыл бұрын

Because the sample is not the best and mostly consisted of saying a list of different counties that are obviously from Russian. Like Privolzjskyi rayon meaning Privolzhskyi district of course it would sound Russian.

I hear Samic alike language

Those of Russia have a thick ass accent

I'm Hungarian. So, I didn't understand anything but the Hungarian one XD

I like the nenets lady very much

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udmurt, mari, nenets has lots of turkic words

@lisaistryingtolive

8 ай бұрын

I'm not sure about Nenets and Mari, but Udmurts have a lot of words from Tatar language which is Turkic

Why do Nenets look Asian and not European? Did they simply adopt an Uralic language or did Uralic speaking people originate from this Asiatic people?

@viharsarok

2 жыл бұрын

Uralic speaking people were Asian originally. Those migrating all the way to Europe were genetically replaced by Caucasians while retaining the language. The ones still near the uerheimat tend to be Asians.

@aini6486

Жыл бұрын

@@viharsarok "Caucasian" lmao, which one Chechen or Dagestani?

@user-yt3xd2jl6d

9 ай бұрын

All the Uralics including the Siberian Asiatics are actually a mix between East Eurasian and West Eurasian, the Uralic languages ​​originated in Siberia, the Samoyeds are considered the "purest" Uralics they are actually a mix but they are the "original" at the level genetic, and the Nenets speak the purest Uralic language

@jooseppaarnamets4175

3 ай бұрын

​@@aini6486he ment white

Komi sounds more russian (slavic).

Ёсць землі

🇭🇺👌

komi sounded russian

Sad that Uralic languages have been heavily Russified

@AbcdEfgh-mw3nj

9 ай бұрын

The Finno-Ugrians are the basis of the Russians. Even Putin himself is Finno-Ugric from the Erzya people.

it can be clearly seen that Finno-Ugrics used to be Mongoloid and due to heavily mixing with Europeans, they have lost that appearance but still retained some Asiatic Facial features.

@tftfgubedgukm7911

2 жыл бұрын

The same with Turkish people

@DZRESPECT

2 жыл бұрын

@@tftfgubedgukm7911 the case in turkey is not the same as it was a linguistic turkification and only 15% in turkey are real turks but yes, real turks look like mongols and chinese.

@tftfgubedgukm7911

2 жыл бұрын

@@DZRESPECT More like Turkish soul trapped in Roman body

@qksf1645

Жыл бұрын

Mongoloid is an highly offensive word... stop using it

How similar are finnish and sami?

@TheJopeToons

3 жыл бұрын

Sound a little bit similar, but that is all. You can understand as much of greek if you are an english speaker

@gabrielgabriel5177

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheJopeToons not even sami people understand different sami languages. They are more far away from each other than finnic languages.

@twinleaf3076

3 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielgabriel5177 that’s really cool, I’m trying to learn south Sami because it’s the Sami language closest to where I live, and because it’s critically endangered, many Sami and finno-ugric languages are. People speaking south Sami have no clue as to what people speaking other Sami languages are saying. South Sami has supposedly the most words for snow in any language www.adressa.no/pluss/magasin/2021/03/28/Ingen-språk-i-verden-har-flere-begreper-for-snø-enn-sørsamisk-23704963.ece

@0mgskillz96

2 жыл бұрын

@Lars Lars North Sami and Finnish are grammatically identical, but only share about 20% of vocabulary, and some of these words can be hard to recognize due to ”the Great Sami Vowel Shift” (eg. a-uo, ä-ie, ü-ë, o-oa, e-ea) and Finnish depalatalizing (eg. the word for “wart”, Proto-Uralic “ćiklä” became Finnish ”syylä” and North Sami “čivhli”). The most basic conversations can be mutually understood, since the core vocabulary is the same, but anything beyond that gets trickier. I understood that the reporter was talking about sun during the Sápmi Polar Night.

@0mgskillz96

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheJopeToons It’s hard to find a comparison to the relationship between North Sami and Finnish from other languages, but i’d say it’s more like comparing English to a North Germanic language. Greek is way too distant..

Hungarian sounded the weirdest, no offense

@viharsarok

2 жыл бұрын

That girl sounded weird even to me, a native speaker.

all russia living people got strong russian accent, I guess russian is first language for them

Some sound German while others sound Russian. Nenet sounds Japanese

@user-pd6bd7ir4z

Жыл бұрын

I speak fluent Japanese. It doesnt sound similar to it.

@Trolligi

9 ай бұрын

I figured too tbh

@Trolligi

9 ай бұрын

​@@user-pd6bd7ir4z sounds a bit similar to me, I guess you really know the differences if you speak one of the languages

Hearing from this short clips, as a native Spanish speaker, I liked: 1. Northern Sami 2. Mari 3. Komi 4. Finnish 5. Meänkieli 6. Hungarian 7. Estonian 8. Veps 9. Võro 10. Udmuri 11. Nenets

It is not only Uralic, but Ural+Altaic. Why don't you say these two together? Why do you want to change the facts by force? Is it abnormal for people living in two neighboring geographies to be from a similar language family, or is it to claim that Indian and European languages, thousands of kilometers away from each other, are from the same language family? Moreover, there is a difference between Indian and European culture. But there are great similarities between Ural and Altai cultures. Culture, geography and history imperialists will never succeed. Every nation is always curious about its own roots. When they investigate this, they reach the truth. Of course, not from the encyclopedia of lies called Wikipedia, financed by imperialists.

@the_linguist_ll

5 ай бұрын

Bud these are all Uralic, and Altaic is not a real family anyways

They sounds like Turkic languages

@LuffyxNamiisathing

Жыл бұрын

Turkey for christmas food mr Erdogagogagonn

Nenet souds like Turkic languages

@tihamah4362

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it sounds like someone speaking Azerbaijani with Japanese accent

Brazil +40 São Paulo, +44 Rio de Janeiro, +36 Londrina, +46 Manaues hahahaha

Some finnish people say that Karelian is dialect of Finnish but I don't agree with them. I can understand many sentences in Karelian but it is still definetly a language. But idc what y'all say, but Meänkieli shouldn't be a language. I can understand everything. Meänkieli should be considered a dialect of Finnish. Its probably easier to understand than Savonian.

Estonian and Finnish are the same

@jek2142

3 жыл бұрын

No they are not lol how im litteraly estonian and they are not same lol

@LuffyxNamiisathing

Жыл бұрын

Nope. As a Finn can confirm

@ducksareurlords3782

9 ай бұрын

Nah, as a finn I can only understand around half of the thing.

Kyllä uralin kieli on ihan aasialainen ja kaukaa siperiasta. Nenetsit ja muut samojedi kansat niitä oikeita uralin kielisiä ovat. Idästä tänne euroopan puolelle kieli siirtynyt saamelaisen esi isä kansan mukana 4200 vuotta sitten ensin volgalle ja sitten myöhemmin tänne länteen. Mutta se juttu siinä onkin että suomen kieli ei kyllä ole oikeasti pelkästään uralilainen vaan jonkin balttilaisen ja saamen kielen risteymä niinkuin geenitkin + jotain edellistä muinais eurooppalaista "baski" kansa vaikutetta tietenkin mitä täällä oli ennen saamen tuloa idästä. Mitään suomi poikia ja karjalaisia ei ollut olemassakaan ennen kun osa esi saamelaisista jätti kulttuurinsa ja assimiloitui baltian maan viljelys porukkaan 3000-2000 vuotta sitten. Saamen kulttuuri oli kyllä jo ennen sitä olemassa että siitä voi miettiä keneltä kieli on peräisin. Saame huomattavasti uralilaisempi kuin suomen kieli. Nenetsi kaikista uralilaisin kieli mitä nykyään on jäljellä. Suomalainen ja muut maajussit jatkanut uralin kielen puhumista pitääkseen yhteyden pohjoisen heimoihin turkis, talja yms kaupan vuoksi.

@mktzi7678

Жыл бұрын

......muuten suomalaiset puhuisivat jotain balttia slaavin serkku kieltä ja osa ehkä germaania.

@feminism8583

Жыл бұрын

The Sami have 70-80% white genes!The Urals have more white genes in the west and more yellow genes in the east. Some scholars believe that Uralic originated in the west.Stop your East Asianism propaganda!

@juulia8983

Жыл бұрын

@@mktzi7678 Taisin nähdä sun kommenttia jossain toisessa videossa Uralilaisista kielistä, ja en tiedä miksi oot näin jäärä tästä asiasta :D Kielikunnathan perustuu siihen mitkä kielet jakaa yhteisen kantakielen ja jakavat samat juuret eikä se että onko meidän geeniperimä yhtä itäistä kuin vaikka sitten Mordvalaisten. Latviassa esim puhutaan Livoniaa mikä on myös Uralilainen kieli vaikka elelee ja hetkellisesti kuolikin Balttian mailla. Kielet on sinänsä yksinkertaisia, niitä voidaan puhua missä vaan ja minkä näköiset ihmiset tahansa, mutta ne silti juurtuu johonkin ja ne elää ja muuttuu ajan saatossa. Ja onko sillä väliä että mitä kieltä suomalaiset on puhunu joskus vuonna nakki, kun kerran Suomessa puhutaan Uralilaista kieltä nykyään, niin that’s that 🤷🏼‍♀️

yet they all use latin alphabet and are far too complex. だから日本語、ハングル、中国語の方が盛んだ！

most of them live in Russia region exept somes live separate far like Hungarian, Bulgarian and in Scandinavian regions

@krisztianwirsz3612

3 жыл бұрын

What? 😀

@lonelyhetaliafangirl4936

3 жыл бұрын

Finally a person who says the truth about Bulgarians

@wtc5198

2 жыл бұрын

Bulgarian?? It's a Slavic language

@mdza

Жыл бұрын

@@wtc5198 heavily influenced by Slavic to the extreme that their language is today considered as Slavic but Bulgars spoke Turkic language before they came to Balkan.

@ChirkunovIvan

Жыл бұрын

@@mdza This is not a Turkic language that was influenced by Slavic, it is an exclusively local Slavic language, which simply began to be called by the name of the state. It's like saying that French isn't Romance, but Romanized Germanic, because the Franks were Germanic people who came from the Netherlands. And Russian is Swedish, because the founders of Rus came from Sweden or Denmark. And so on.