As far as unused content goes, this is extremely reasonable.

@meric12131415

Жыл бұрын

I guess so

@acorngnome

Жыл бұрын

​@@meric12131415 What a coincidence, me too!

@meric12131415

Жыл бұрын

@@acorngnome 🤣 same here

@acorngnome

Жыл бұрын

@@meric12131415 saaaaaaame

@meric12131415

Жыл бұрын

@@acorngnome cool 😁

Fun Fact: In the DS remake, every level has four adjacent wraps at the start intended for four player multiplayer. But the final version didnt end up having proper multiplayer for all levels.

@marinusjohn6642

Жыл бұрын

This is false. In Dark Souls remastered, the summon sign system remains the method by which multiplayer is achieved.

@CassiusStelar

Жыл бұрын

​@@marinusjohn6642 I'm not gonna get Wooshed but I'm still disliking

@MicrosoftWindowsVista.

Жыл бұрын

@@CassiusStelar r/whooosh

@JrIcify

Жыл бұрын

​​​@@marinusjohn6642 They were talking about dead space which didn't have multiplayer fully implemented until the 3rd game, and it doesn't appear in the 1st game's remake.

@rellikx7519

Жыл бұрын

​@@JrIcify wow another misconception. DS refers to Don't Starve. He's clearly referring to DS(T) as the remake which indeed had multiplayer added to it, and I can confirm that the warp points are adjacent.

If I recall, the key door one was because that door used to have a warp instead of going up the stairs and having the warp there. I guess this was never removed because it would never be seen.

@mathprodigy

Жыл бұрын

How does one happen upon this knowledge haha so originally it would just warp you to the upper floor?

@Sebal007

Жыл бұрын

@@mathprodigy maybe, initially, the second floor was a different level. Some parts of the castle are similar to that so might be.

@karanoelle4819

Жыл бұрын

@mathprodigy 1. I think I learned of it from another YT video discussing the beta features of the game. 2. I believe this was the case, but if it was beta, who knows what the intentions were. Maybe during building and testing, it was easier to just load new zones at that point. It's also possible that Shigeru himself thought that the transition didn't feel natural, which it wouldn't.

@karanoelle4819

Жыл бұрын

@Memnarch As noted above, that would have to be the case IF we took both the beta warp and the unused spawn together. It fits perfectly, given the context. Sadly there isn't any hard proof of this, but that would be my take on it.

@_mortiam

17 күн бұрын

This is were you get teleported when falling down on the Princess's secret slide, iirc. But I definitely remember getting teleported there.

I wish a SM64 aficionado had the chance to interview someone on the dev team about this stuff. I wonder what their original intentions were and what they had to change. EDIT: ok people I get it, devs don’t remember shit about the shit they code

@ftlgamer3062

Жыл бұрын

I think 99% of stuff would be answered with "yeah we had some ideas, but discarded it and forgot to remove the feature or we just didnt care"

@BillehBobJoe

Жыл бұрын

@@ftlgamer3062 you'd probably get the most common responses of "it was 27 years ago. i do not remember" and "this was the first 3d game, there was another way of doing [programming] it?"

@MikehMike01

Жыл бұрын

standards are extremely low in professional software

@xshobux

Жыл бұрын

Tbh I doubt they'd remember minor stuff like this

@hri7566

Жыл бұрын

​@@MikehMike01 this game's code is the most horrific application of the C language i have ever seen (from the gigaleak, not the reverse engineered project)

My assumptions for the foyer ones is that they may have been earlier versions of leaving the Sky Cap stage if you failed, the second would have probably been scrapped due to they devs not wanting you to possibly get a game over via this.

@Dell2YT

Жыл бұрын

I agree, it is the first level that is mostly skybox/death barrier. The entire stage is a pit.

@Shrooblord

Жыл бұрын

I die so often on that stage so I thank them for this retcon xD

@thewiseoldfox

2 ай бұрын

Wait what happens if you die by landing on the rook too hard? How does Mario spawn back to the castle?

@The_hot_blue_fire_guy

2 ай бұрын

@@thewiseoldfox Is it even possible to die in that stage? There are no enemies or hazards so the only way to take damage would be fall damage, but I’m not sure if it’s possible to get fall damage In that stage.

@thewiseoldfox

2 ай бұрын

@@The_hot_blue_fire_guy it is possible to do fall damage by landing on the only platform, and it'd be possible to die there if you go in with less than half health

i like how he says "so you can see them" giving the feeling that now he became one with super mario 64 and can see every single object with pure mindpower

@JrIcify

Жыл бұрын

If you play enough Mario 64 you will get an M shaped eye on your forehead that opens when you build up enough speed

@samusaran7317

Жыл бұрын

@@JrIcify *BLJ* *INTENSIFIES*

these shorts are a blessing

@bananabunch55

Жыл бұрын

How did you get that Mario head in your name?

@_vija

Жыл бұрын

@@bananabunch55 by becoming a channel member. pannen activated memberships very recently

@1_FLASKFAN

Жыл бұрын

@@bananabunch55 they're more subscribed to pannenkoek

@bananabunch55

Жыл бұрын

@@_vija Oh, that's cool, I haven't seen that, thanks!

Theory: The first two of these were the devs experimenting with how you would exit WMotR, since both featuring him entering from the skylight. The third *could* be an initial idea from getting the key off of BitDW, before that gained a nice animation. Fourth was either just a test for what would happen with that animation at ground level, *or* just how the game's beginning state was before they made a warp that made him stand by default.

@hubguy

Жыл бұрын

Probably wrong but to me the third is current BitFS but the only difference being spawning you right outside the door to do the animation. Your first thought when beating BitDW is to use the key on the upper floor doors only to realize it worked for the basement. Once you beat BitFS you know for sure where that key goes and it’s a longer distance from BitFS to the door, so you’re taken right to the door to finally achieve what you wanted to do since BitDW. Almost like a “ok we’re getting close to the end now” kind of deal I guess lol

@holdingpattern245

Жыл бұрын

could just be things put in there for the convenience of programmers and testers, like the test levels hidden in the code of Mario games, and the triggers were removed for the game release but not the warps themselves

@Gardivanyth

Жыл бұрын

Quick correction, the skylight stage is the Wing Cap stage, not WMotR (that one is on the third floor of the castle & falling off puts you on the castle grounds). But yeah, extremely likely they were to be used in the event of Mario losing a life in the cap stage. Maybe they thought it was too punishing for new players & hence you don't lose lives in the stage.

@RestrictedRican

Жыл бұрын

Proof

@1mariomaniac

2 ай бұрын

​@@RestrictedRican It's speculation, there is no "proof." All we can do is speculate unless a Mario 64 dev just so happens to remember why those warps were there and decides to talk about it.

im so glad to see you back making commentated videos. They've all been great

foyER

@DittoGTI

Ай бұрын

Ikr it's pronounced Foy ai

Love the banjo kazooie music

Pannenkoek saying coin is so satisfying

@UnfamiliarPlace

Жыл бұрын

"foyer", on the other hand...

@Idk.you.tell_me

11 ай бұрын

coin😮😮

@CoingamerFL

2 ай бұрын

What are you doing here???

I'm still somewhat convinced that Wing Mario Over The Rainbow was one of the early developed courses and it was supposed to take place outside, and also if Mario fell, spawn him back at the castle grounds. Why do I think it was early dev? It also contains some of the obscure Hangable Ceilings, which also appear in BBB and the castle grounds. All later hangable ceilings only appear as clearly demarcated grates and trellises.

I'm liking these shorts! Its cool to know so much stuff about SM64 that I never really knew about. Keep up the good work!

@zernek9199

Жыл бұрын

If you're interested in more like this, you should check out his video "Seeing the Unseen". He's been slowly moving stuff from that video into shorts, this video is one of those.

you have a great taste in music

I love this series of shorts, so interesting man

This shouldn't be as fascinating as it is

i love these shorts that you've been making. they're just as interesting as the more in-depth videos, but covering simpler topics and made to be super-digestible.

Hey dude idk if you read these but I watch your videos when I feel sad and I want to thank you for making this awesome content ❤ much love from Canada

@michaeljha4860

Жыл бұрын

Hope you feel better buddy. I agree these vids cheer me up

The ones in the foyer were likely for the Wing Cap stage, so it makes sense. I can't really explain the one at the locked door, maybe for testing, but I think the one on the castle grounds might be there because someone accidentally set it to a stage entrance and forgot to delete it

@satibel

Жыл бұрын

Someone said it's probably from before the stairs were added.

The second unused warp is more common in ROM hacks (Star Revenge as the example for its usage) but I've never knew what they exactly were and their functions in Toad's Tool 64 and Quad64. What a missed opportunity to have them scrapped.

Imagine a SM64 randomizer that randomizes not only the warps, but randomized the position of the warp. Like, you start a level from where the flight cap in the first level. You die, and warp from a one up on the final Bowser level, etc.

"Here, I've given warps the appearance of pink coins so that you can see them. And I've given the screen extreme tinyness so that you can't see anything."

@InsideOutAnus

2 ай бұрын

Also literally only the first warp is a pink coin lol

I wonder how many shorts it will take until we finally go through every single little factoid about the game. maybe we'll get one about the wing cap tower

I wish everyone, even non gamers, could understand how far ahead of its time this game was..it was a brilliant masterpiece of code created with such few technological resources relative today's games. In my several years studying coding and realizing the challenge of creating just basic games like basic tower defense, here is Nintendo putting out a 3d open world game in the fuggin 90's. Wild

Love to watch these clips of you breaing down the hidden facts from my childhood 😊

Love these shorts! Keep ‘em coming!

i love these shorts so much

The key door one is the most mysterious

99 warps? Time to find the SUPER DUPER SECRET 100TH WARP!

Fun fact: in sm64excoop, a SM64 online game made by fans with a sm64 rom, the last warp is used when a player lost all of his lifes, because there is no Game Over screen

These shorts are awesome, man! Very entertaining plus a cool way to get smaller bits of content out without having to pour a taxing amount of energy into a full video.

It can be assumed that before the stairs existed, developers created warp points to get from the first floor to the next upper floor.

@Sr.Anonimo-bk1uz

Жыл бұрын

Hol' up I think there could be more out of this. If I remember correctly, there's no level that has actual stairs like the castle has, or even structures that work similarly, as in, getting up just by walking into it without it being diagonal

My heart dies a little every time someone mispronounces "foyer"

@kingconcerto5860

Жыл бұрын

I share your pain.

@kefir321

Жыл бұрын

it's just american english

@Kosac07

Жыл бұрын

Thank you...

@kingcrimson4133

6 ай бұрын

if enough people mispronounce a word, it eventually becomes correct. set your heart at ease with the knowledge that language has always and will always continue to change in this way.

@scantyer

3 ай бұрын

Ok how it's pronounced

when youve watched pannen/other youtubers so long, you already are aware of them.

I could watch this channel ALL day. 😭😂 Im a huge fan of Mario 64 of course, but also a big fan of attention to detail

The last one is unused since the Demo shown in 1995

Nice Video! Bango Kazooie music. 😂 🎶

I neither knew mario 64 was an 18+ game nor have i ever seen the castle foyer animation of mario "dying in SA"😂

I am appreciating these tidbits brother

they were probably used for the sky stages besides the stairs one, think about it, when you fall on that cloud stage you fall into the lake, what if it wouldve spawned you where the sun carpet was, same if it was the cap stage

Loving this content Pannen

Why do I feel like I've encountered these unused warps myself?

@VacantMinded

Жыл бұрын

Bro same with that first one, it feels so fucking familiar.

Loving the shorts :D

The last one was probably used for the prototype

I've never heard anyone pronounce foyer that way

"God has no shape or form, here I've given him the appearance of a pink coin"

These videos are incredible

I remember playing Mario64 in the play area at a McDonalds. I'm pretty sure the Mario64 they had was some weird demo version and the game lacked a proper main menu or intro. I think these unused warps may have been used in something like that.

IN EVERY VIDEO HIM : IN SUPER MARIO 64 ………………………………………………………………………………..…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

I am so happy we're back to commentated

my guesses = wing cap tower and mario wings over the rainbow were onc mless forgiving and took a life when you fall. In the final game you fall unharmed, from warps very close to these. they probablymdidnt bother removing the old warp animations when they did that, and instead simply reassigned the levels andmleft the old data.

Even lesser known fact is mario is a powerful psyker and can open new warps whenever he wants.

I really like your SM64 shorts!

Seems likely to me, at least for the first two, that you were originally intended to lose a life if you failed Wing Cap Tower or Secret Slide but Nintendo probably saw it as too harsh of a punishment and removed them

i wouldent be suprised if the first or second one would of been an earlier version of returning from the wing cap coutse via falling

I would have never imagined they left these in.

Sad your Ignatius died, I pumped mine full of hyperzine, combat stims, gave him hammerhead matriarch moloch hunter and hammerhead genes, and 1v1'd a latcher with him melee, out of the sub Truly the biggest gigachad of them all

Is there a way to mess with this table and cause a wrong warp?

@Fuley-la-joo

Жыл бұрын

I don't think that table is actually taken from the game data

@imconfused6955

Жыл бұрын

@@Fuley-la-joo where else would be taken from? Obviously it's been translated for humans to understand but I'm sure the game has it own equivalent somewhere

Here we have some unused animations as well

I see you’re working through Seeing The Unseen for content. Very nice

Is the sprite for the pink coin built into the game, or is it a modification? Or is the color of the coin determined using code that you can alter yourself? It definitely makes a convenient marker.

@AjaxGb

Жыл бұрын

I believe the game only contains one uncolored coin texture which is shared by all coin types (yellow, red, and blue) and is tinted by each using vertex colors. I'd guess they all use the same rendering code and each passes in a different color value, so Pannen can just tell the warp entity to use the same code but with a different color.

Never heard Foyer pronounced like that and then so many times in a row 😂

Some of these are actually used as teleports for when you lose in levels like the one that gets rid of a life and regenerates your health

Instead of asking technical questions they won't give af about. I'd like to see what they think of kaze emuar and this guy and how far they push and look into the game. I wonder if theyd be impressed how much people love and look into their old 30 year old code

The first one could be the secret warp zone they found while working on the drain.

why is this content so interesting

the whole game was within a painting the whole time

Thank you. My life is better now knowing this

I think can imagine what the first two warps were for.

The fourth warp outside looks like it gets used when you start a save file up.

that unused spawn in the castle is from a game over menu

I feel that unused warp shown at 0:28 that spawns Mario in the foyer in backwards air knockback action should've been used when you die in The Princess's Secret Slide and Tower Of Wing Cap when falling down the bottomless pit and while taking a life with it, it would've made since. I don't know what the point was of dying in those two levels and not losing a life and just spawning back into the castle like nothing happened.

Love me some pannenkoek shorts

Loving all these commentated videos!

The 2nd one where there's no knock back is probably the only one I knew.cuz of all the rom hacks I played

the first one would be actually pretty cool, if it were used with the "Mario over the Wing cap" course

I'm guessing these warps were meant to be an unused way to go back to Peach's Castle.

I feel like I have seen a couple of them in SM64DS.

would love some pannen content about how to make original mario 64 levels

@gobbleguk

Жыл бұрын

That sounds more like a Kaze thing

I coulda sworn the second foyer one was used whenever you zone out in the special like slide stage found in the painting, but I might be crazy

BABE WAKE UP PANNENKOEK STARTED POSTING YT SHORTS

Yup sounds about right 😁

PANNEN SHORTS LETS GOOOO these gonna be my children’s sensory videos

What about the spawn where he just appears in the sun in the foyer? There's no action, no no elaborate entry, he's just there.

At least 3 of those are used in the game…the start of the game spawn, and I’ve been spit out of the other 2 the bowser door idk. But they just because they don’t have index’s doesn’t mean they aren’t used

I can't say for sure, because i haven't played sm64 in ... literally over a decade... but i do specifically remember getting the 'knocked back' into the foyer animation at some point... but it's not like i have any proof, i never even owned the game... so i'm probably just full of it, unless there's another animation that's similar?

Is everything a fkn object 😂 Jesus

I think if you look at the sm64 beta footage those unused spawns will be found like the unused peach castle in one of the game's pics mario was standing in front of the star door that has been changed to the key door and the losing the life in middle of the castle I think was scraped that I think was when mario falls of peach's secret slide (not secret anymore) instead of him landing in the castle just fine he was supposed to lose a life like any other level

@sdg4diamondking740

9 ай бұрын

And I also think they used them to position mario in the game to take the screenshots

The first 2 seem like unused warps for maybe dieing in the wing cap area

Pannen, can you or someone more well-versed answer a question? In CCM, why is there no “exiting the CCM slide” warp? It is there for other courses with sub-areas that can be entered/exited, like SL, TTM, and THI.

If i had to guess: The 2 in the middle of the foyer are likely unused fail-states for the wing-cap switch stage. The one at the key door might have something to do with the first bowser stage? And the one outside might be some way for developers to quickly spawn into the game without having to use the opening cutscene. That being said, im not an expert by any means, but these just make the most sense to me.

They couldn't decide where or how he should spawn, so they programmed everything, picked one, and didn't take the rest of the code out. I do wonder...were they thinking "No one will know, this is easier" or "People will be so confused in the future" 😂

I swear the first two you pointed out I’ve seen used: When you fall into the sky in the Tower of the Wing Cap (just above you, where you hit the big red button to activate the wing cap), it spits you out on your cheeks with no HP loss When you drown in The Secret Aquarium (just outside Jolly Roger Bay), you technically already drowned, so it spits you out with 1 “additional” HP in the center room, which seems to drain you to 1 HP if you go from full health. Maybe there are part of the other 99 minus what you listed, but I’m curious! Do you think that those hex codes are potentially referenced in the code, but not directly? Maybe they’re doing something sketchy and excessively proprietary, as Nintendo loves to do 😂 - just the first sketchy possibility that comes to my head is concatenating two string characters together then treating the result as a hex value - this wouldn’t work to do a reverse lookup on the codebase for those values, but would still allow usage of them.

he's back fr fr

I’m just here wondering whether or not the fourth floor exists

I feel like I have seen these used. I think it was the idle start screen when they preview gameplay before starting the game. I could be wrong tho.

I'm honestly glad they changed their minds about the player losing a life for failing the wing cap tower stage.

US pronunciation of foyer is wild

Very interesting stuff