Understanding the SYMPTOM POOL: how the world goes mad

The symptom pool is probably the single most important concept with respect to understanding mental illness. In short, the symptom pool is a culturally-bound collection of behavioral signals that can be used to communicate various degrees of distress. These signals are unconsciously added to the pool at the population level, and they are unconsciously manifested from the pool at the individual level. In this episode, I cite an example of how this might look from Ethan Watters's "Crazy like us".
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  • @psychacks
    @psychacks8 ай бұрын

    The symptom pool is probably the single most important concept with respect to understanding mental illness. In short, the symptom pool is a culturally-bound collection of behavioral signals that can be used to communicate various degrees of distress. These signals are unconsciously added to the pool at the population level, and they are unconsciously manifested from the pool at the individual level. In this episode, I cite an example of how this might look from Ethan Watters's "Crazy like us". Social Media Facebook: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090053889622 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/orion-taraban-070b45168/ Instagram: instagram.com/psyc.hacks Twitter: twitter.com/oriontaraban Website: oriontarabanpsyd.com Orion's Theme: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iaaMpNyKYquqdbQ.html Thinking of going to grad school? Check out STELLAR, my top-rated GRE self-study program based on the world's only empirically-validated test prep system. Use the code "PSYCH" for 10% off all membership plans: stellargre.com. Become a Stellar affiliate and earn a 10% commission for every membership purchased by a new student you conduct into the program: stellargre.tapfiliate.com. GRE Bites: www.youtube.com/@grebites4993 Become a Psychonaut and join PsycHack's member community: kzread.info/dron/SduXBjCHkLoo_y9ss2xzXw.htmljoin Book a paid consultation: oriontarabanpsyd.com/consultations Sound mixing/editing by: valntinomusic.com Presented by Orion Taraban, Psy.D. PsycHacks provides viewers with a brief, thought-provoking video several days a week on a variety of psychological topics, inspired by his clinical practice. The intention is for the core idea contained within each video to inspire viewers to see something about themselves or their world in a slightly different light. The ultimate mission of the channel is to reduce the amount of unnecessary suffering in the world. #psychology #mentalhealth #mentalhealthawareness

  • @WoziduranJahemter

    @WoziduranJahemter

    8 ай бұрын

    Some people in misery pass traumas out of compulsion in order to situate others with them in a bucket-of-crabs situation(misery requires company) in order to be with them in suffering(because they want to bond others to be afflicted by similar wounds), that's a either very selfish maladaptive act or a weakness unhealed compulsion. Self-healing, repenting and true decency are required from a level of self awareness, accountability and faith that we have to develop on our own, God will forgive but karma(or the consequences of nasty actions) won't, altough some people carry a distinct disdain and malevolence within them(instead of peace and love) and they think and feel entitled to afflict around those who don't give them the time, attention, information or resources because we can sense their decrepid intentions and evil infantilities. We gotta self-guess and question ourselves sometimes in order to not be afflicted by a malevolent touch of another's decrepid unhealed strange influences that are to be cleansed and/or purged.

  • @user-wi3nn9vw5d

    @user-wi3nn9vw5d

    8 ай бұрын

    So what does this mean about the rise of trans kids and what teachers are telling kids at school isn't it similar to what the well meaning doctors in Hong-Kong did.

  • @user-wi3nn9vw5d

    @user-wi3nn9vw5d

    8 ай бұрын

    I asked this question because many western governments are advocating doing irreversible procedures to children like puberty blocks and surgery

  • @WoziduranJahemter

    @WoziduranJahemter

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@user-wi3nn9vw5d humanity as a collective consciousness goes towards androgynous mind qualities in order to understand both feminine and masculine divine aspects, the issue is that people with biases freak out instead of understanding the new dynamics that are necessary for the new evolution phase of temperance and harmony. Altough I also have to tell that trans kids with bad ignorant environments might be so influenced by stressor factors and pollutions(of many kinds, including spiritual possession) in their adroginous minds that sometimes peculiar entities might use their bodies and minds to act reckless. Those entities afflict and use the kids bodies while being in control of another vessel in far more decrepid conditions because of the choices of that individual degraded lifestyle in sin especially - the pollution factors => meaning that the raised sensitivity that all humans do have but adapt differently depending on their genes, inheritance and will or faith properties; example: peculiar strange influences can manifest in stable straight individuals as depression, anxiety, depersonalization, confusion, fatigue while for the trans kids manifests more active like extravagant sexual uncoordinated behaviour due to degraded mind degrading factors(artificial social bisexuality that is enforced by social egregores forms of weak-groups masses in social environment that doesn't come natural represent a toxic cope of sin), also very quick switch between traditional gender roles(instead of acknowledging and observing the channeling and be complementary reciprocical in a household), raised potential to go towards risks in order to explore that might come as scary strnage behaviour but some things need to be revealed because the old sick world tend to hide misdeeds of pollution and corruption under fake regulations in order to flee from justice. Best option is to acknowledge that those androgynous kids come as universal helpers and also the implications that require a better understanding of the actuality of our divine origins that tends to elevate, without healthy children the planet might become barren and the ruling class might act too harsh towards stuff that needs better comprehension of biology, chemistry and soul factors.

  • @StayFractalesque

    @StayFractalesque

    8 ай бұрын

    Ooohh.. you mean the female hive mind.. just say so next time!

  • @someguyusa
    @someguyusa8 ай бұрын

    It's a well-known kind of phenomenon according to the literature. The same thing is happening with the trans issues today, imo. Sure, there are legitimate cases, but there are undoubtedly cases that are not born out of actual gender dysphoria. The problem is that it is mainstream to become hostile against anyone that even questions a trans person or issue or the policies or methods by which it is addressed. It's utter madness.

  • @toddjohnson271

    @toddjohnson271

    8 ай бұрын

    The system labels it victimhood status. Victimhood status warrants benefits and special protection. People pretend to be victim for benefits.

  • @BigLeagueChew11

    @BigLeagueChew11

    8 ай бұрын

    I think if people really wanted to help others instead of just condemning them and hoping they go away, the symptom might lessen. If being Trans is a symptom and the suffering is something else, then wouldn’t the symptom go away when the suffering ends. paradoxically claiming that they are manipulators and abusers of the benefits (which some are but some aren’t, just like in everything) makes them feel less understood and more ‘symptomatic’. Become un-fazed by the symptom and the symptom no longer works. But if you treat the symptom adversely you legitimize it in the pool, making it harder to go away.

  • @MyMy-tv7fd

    @MyMy-tv7fd

    8 ай бұрын

    trans - ing, a modern social fad of madness

  • @Mike80528

    @Mike80528

    8 ай бұрын

    @@toddjohnson271 Some people pretend, but more often they are *deluded* and buy into a mentality. That is not pretending, it is integrating a culture/belief-system...Do you buy brand-name products? Hmmm....

  • @someguyusa

    @someguyusa

    8 ай бұрын

    @@BigLeagueChew11 The issue is that unlike something like anorexia, a transperson can get you fired if you don't openly agree with everything they do, say, or otherwise promote.

  • @modickens1272
    @modickens12728 ай бұрын

    Absolutely. It'd be like saying " a study discovered most men suffering from depression have large penises " you'd see a bottle of prozac or zoloft on every night stand, or casually saying they've been depressed while at the bar or club.

  • @akam9919

    @akam9919

    8 ай бұрын

    XD

  • @1Plebeian

    @1Plebeian

    Ай бұрын

    There's a comedy duo who has almost this exact same skit lol. Except size was correlated with low intelligence lmao.

  • @RexChentheking
    @RexChentheking8 ай бұрын

    Great episode doc. Victim mentality seems to be the new way to for youths who are compelled in discovering their identity and place in the social structure, previously local, now globalized by the internet, as the easy way out. No need to the hard deeds of socializing, moving amongst the hierarchy, be competent or provide real value to others. Instead, fly the colours and banners of the flag of oppression that you identify with and provides you 'seemingly' with the packaged social benefits that go with that said mental disorder or illness. All the benefits, with none of the work. Besides the perceived social benefits, the allure of joining something greater than one's self in a group, now advertised almost like a brand. I know a few young adults, 18-20 now which this more prevalent and 'normalized', self-diagnosing with disorders like BPD, NPD and anti-social disorder. There's less negative stigma with awareness which is good, but there is always a price to be paid. These are serious disorders, if many wear it like a fashion statement, the genuine sufferers are less discernable and less likely to be heard.

  • @postmodernmining

    @postmodernmining

    8 ай бұрын

    Oh, wonderful. Self induced BPD. Gonna renew my vows of celibacy.

  • @takumifujiwara4503

    @takumifujiwara4503

    8 ай бұрын

    True, but at the other hand it's hard for the youngs to not have a victim mentality when their parents (mostly fathers) were absent and have never teached them the importance of trying to achieve their goals and have never encouraged them. And also the victim mentality is promoted on a massive scale in social media, so there are a very few good role models with "winner mentality" to look up to.

  • @ikaustralia

    @ikaustralia

    8 ай бұрын

    In the rest of the world you would be laughed at and bullied for being offended. Your feelings are entirely your responsibility and if you're easily offended then you are weak and the weak are prayed upon.

  • @zeppkfw

    @zeppkfw

    8 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@takumifujiwara4503 Definitely. As a 20 year old looking up to key figures in my life who showed great traits of grit, industriousness, intelligence, etc... proved to be very useful in my development and I still am to this day. Children and young teens are known to be empty templates willing to copy the people they look up to.

  • @ikaustralia

    @ikaustralia

    8 ай бұрын

    @@zeppkfw well, Hollywood has been created in the USA after all. This makes sense.

  • @tonybernard4444
    @tonybernard44448 ай бұрын

    I'd like to raise awareness of suffering people from all demographics who dive into self improvement, like eating a proper diet, weight training, aerobics and self defense. They also fixate on performance in school or their job. They hide themselves by fostering healthy relationships and generating realistic boundaries. They shouldn't be judged or frowned upon, but we should recognize and understand the pain they must be going through; just let them know we're here for them if they want to talk about it.

  • @tonydiesel3444

    @tonydiesel3444

    8 ай бұрын

    Cool name

  • @__-tz6xx

    @__-tz6xx

    8 ай бұрын

    I see what you did there 😁

  • @brushstroke3733

    @brushstroke3733

    8 ай бұрын

    Well done! Those poor, unfortunate people need to be seen and understood. Though fairly rare, it can very very harmful, especially for young people.

  • @MatthewSmith-cp3hu

    @MatthewSmith-cp3hu

    7 ай бұрын

    😊 love this!

  • @desaryll2044
    @desaryll20448 ай бұрын

    I remember being a kid in an elementary school with a high population of a certain minority in both the faculty and student body. I believe it was 2nd grade where we started having assemblies that I can remember about MLK and the prejudice of the 60's and before. I had no conept of racism and I bet many of the other kids didn't either. But after that, I was made aware some of my classmates would be seen as less than by others potentially. And so did they, unfortunately. I understand the importance of not forgetting important times in our collective past but also I see that those assemblies had other, less helpful results too. Introducing those concepts had effects on us for sure.

  • @dudejoe8390

    @dudejoe8390

    8 ай бұрын

    This is so true. As kids we didn't know how to hate by racism until school or parents showed us.

  • @1Plebeian

    @1Plebeian

    Ай бұрын

    Kids who are asked to notate their race at the start of taking a test, specifically minorities, score several points lower than they do when they aren't asked to notate their race. Think on that for a while.

  • @lilyromaineshank8649
    @lilyromaineshank86498 ай бұрын

    Wow, this explains something that I never had an explanation of before. My best friend developed bulimia after her mom told her that she struggled with that when she was younger, presumably to warn her and discourage her from doing it.

  • @IceColdProfessional

    @IceColdProfessional

    8 ай бұрын

    This applies to the trans community as well.

  • @nmbr1son64

    @nmbr1son64

    8 ай бұрын

    Many years ago when I was in highschool, one of my classmates had anorexia nervosa. I couldn't understand it (at the time) because she was very pretty and FINE! Looking back, I can recognize some of the stress she was under. She's much better now!

  • @ferreirap.

    @ferreirap.

    8 ай бұрын

    @@IceColdProfessional It specially applies to it.

  • @raghavendrakuppuswamyarchitect
    @raghavendrakuppuswamyarchitect8 ай бұрын

    Came here initially for his hot takes on modern women, staying here for the good doctor's deep cuts on philosophy and psychology. Thank you Dr.Orion 🙏

  • @sandeepvonguru8488

    @sandeepvonguru8488

    8 ай бұрын

    Modern women u also seems to be under the symptom pool

  • @raghavendrakuppuswamyarchitect

    @raghavendrakuppuswamyarchitect

    8 ай бұрын

    @@sandeepvonguru8488 makes sense 👍 Seems like the only way to win is not to play any game

  • @westmorelandgreasy348
    @westmorelandgreasy3483 ай бұрын

    Brilliant - addressed the obvious circumstance directly without even mentioning it, much less getting banned and demonitized.

  • @uncle0eric
    @uncle0eric8 ай бұрын

    This is great. My go-to example is the 'glass delusion' which was common in the 17th Century, but is unknown today.

  • @salahworx6963
    @salahworx69638 ай бұрын

    This is brilliant! Finally having an explanatory term for it. I always used to say this "If you are looking for mistakes and issues in humans, you will find them."

  • @sarahn5519
    @sarahn55198 ай бұрын

    Thank you, you gave me the last piece to a puzzle I’ve been trying to work out for the last three years.

  • @lanceodingaard9305
    @lanceodingaard93058 ай бұрын

    Dr. Taraban: I absolutely love your videos. This one, though, is truly stellar ! “Symptom Pool” and “Secondary Gains” are now in my top ten list of favorite phrases. They explain so much in society, like the current fad of so-called transgenderism, and on a personal level in dealing with my Mother. Years ago, I coined the phrase “Happily Suffering Catholic Syndrome” to describe and come to terms with what my Mom was saying and doing. You teaching about secondary gains has really helped me hit the nail on the head instead of just looking at it. Thank you Doctor ! May your prosperity equal your contributions.

  • @ZenBen_the_Elder
    @ZenBen_the_Elder13 күн бұрын

    Orion's professional skill of producing thick, rich content does more in 10m than most creators do in a half hour.

  • @lucasley20
    @lucasley208 ай бұрын

    A very timely piece!

  • @AleksLazar
    @AleksLazar8 ай бұрын

    Slightly off topic but I remember as a kid I learned about heroin and how to use it from so called anti drug posters in clinics. If I was a cartel I’d chip in to fund those for sure

  • @user-dj4fd5vc6c

    @user-dj4fd5vc6c

    8 ай бұрын

    I learned all the common racial slurs long before my time thanks to "anti-racism" videos in grade school. Once you see how it works you can never unsee it. Insidious.

  • @bayareaomg

    @bayareaomg

    8 ай бұрын

    Information is important what the problem with anti drug or anti whatever campaigns is they actually contain very misleading information

  • @danielademide

    @danielademide

    8 ай бұрын

    Campaigns created by women. No logic or reasoning behind it, just feelings and emotions.

  • @endcgm9277

    @endcgm9277

    8 ай бұрын

    After watching an anti-drug movie at school, I sought out the drug clique and asked them to get me high on pot

  • @user-nr4ii3ew4l
    @user-nr4ii3ew4l8 ай бұрын

    I love, how you always go a level deeper than pop-psychology usually goes! Thank you! Alex from Russia. BTW I use your channel to practice my English, helps a lot ❤

  • @rickyc46
    @rickyc4626 күн бұрын

    I just love how you are able to communicate such complex concepts into understandable ways for us

  • @bearclaw5115
    @bearclaw51158 ай бұрын

    No one has as consistently blown my mind and taught me new, interesting ways to see the world than our good Dr. Orion Taraban! Thank you good sir.

  • @rob21
    @rob218 ай бұрын

    You’ve just reached boss level with this episode.

  • @highlandsmokery8421
    @highlandsmokery84218 ай бұрын

    Excellent analysis, and extra points for knowing that the plural is "anorectics", at c.8m25s.

  • @ferreirap.
    @ferreirap.8 ай бұрын

    This channel is getting better and better! This was gold!

  • @GratefulZen
    @GratefulZen8 ай бұрын

    Great, fascinating video. I was reminded of the book Virus of the Mind by Richard Brodie. Fritz Perl’s was quoted as saying “awareness in itself is healing.”

  • @jackgunter143
    @jackgunter1438 ай бұрын

    Another very insightful analysis. I won't mention the obvious and unspoken example of our current age but shared and recommended.

  • @adamsanders2270
    @adamsanders22705 ай бұрын

    Very helpful and insightful. I think there are numerous examples of this in American cultures today. There is a strong push to celebrate many different mental illnesses and it has had the effect of essentially pushing kids into these areas as almost a vogue way to fit in.

  • @tonytan9390
    @tonytan93908 ай бұрын

    Thanks! I learned alot from this episode and I think it gives me a really good reference on how mental illness and culture are related.

  • @Evermore2017
    @Evermore20178 ай бұрын

    Orion is a f****** rock star.

  • @Tom-vq2hw
    @Tom-vq2hw7 ай бұрын

    That's fascinating. Legion touched on this (incredible show), the way that our individual anxieties can ascend to the societal level, and then back down. Sort of a toxic water cycle It does make a lot of sense that an animal would generally have no idea what's wrong with it, apart from unsatisfied drives or physical injuries. And so our ability to diagnose a problem within ourselves is limited to the flashcards that society gives us to match our symptoms to It does make you wonder just how accurate our current psychiatric diagnosis are, seeing them as a part of this grand tradition. I've heard more psychiatrists in recent years conceptualize depression as not so much a maladaptive state, but a regenerative, reflective chrysalis in which an individual can heal, for example

  • @DragonNo1
    @DragonNo18 ай бұрын

    Very interesting! Thank you for this episode! "Monkey see monkey do." I'm convinced that what we call "spiritual awakening" is no more than self-reflection or self-awareness. That is, awareness of our own mental and emotional processes. We can see it now in many different forms of mental issues including "the victim mentality." Which brings us to what Viktor Frankl called "In search for meaning". And this phenomena has become more acute at certain historical periods of humanity, like this one. These are the periods in which we discover the therapeutic value of philosophy. In Ancient Greece it took place with Epicurus and continued until Plato and Aristotle. Nowadays, Professor Vervaeke (a cognitive scientist) and others are addressing this issue, and his series "Awakening to the Meaning Crisis" is highly recommended. Thank you again.

  • @toneyeye
    @toneyeye6 ай бұрын

    You just explained the mechanism of "culture"; how it develops and how it evolves.

  • @znojnyj
    @znojnyj8 ай бұрын

    What's really needed in the world right now is the awareness about awareness about awareness about awareness about awareness about awareness about awareness about awareness about awareness about awareness about awareness IMO

  • @joelfenner
    @joelfenner8 ай бұрын

    It's like a choose your own adventure novel! Because you can only choose to turn to the pages they list at each breakpoint. Only it's not an adventure, it's more like ordering mental illness from a takeout menu. I liked the "avocado toast" fad much more than the "gender dysphoria" one.

  • @SpookyGhost999
    @SpookyGhost9998 ай бұрын

    I love how your thumbnails are all secondary characters in Matrix movies

  • @okenwaayomikun
    @okenwaayomikun8 ай бұрын

    Sometimes I get annoyed with my friend who is struggling with a mental issue. It's like life hasn't been fair to you, but your victim mindset messes you up more than life ever did. I will send this video to the person and I hope it will make him aware of his constant negative awareness.

  • @dahliafiend

    @dahliafiend

    8 ай бұрын

    That’s not going to work.

  • @dahliafiend

    @dahliafiend

    8 ай бұрын

    Whats the mental issues? Perhaps I could send you some videos to help you…

  • @okenwaayomikun

    @okenwaayomikun

    8 ай бұрын

    @@dahliafiend what will?

  • @okenwaayomikun

    @okenwaayomikun

    8 ай бұрын

    @@dahliafiend I can't say for certain, but I think depression.

  • @StayFractalesque

    @StayFractalesque

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@dahliafienduhhh.. why wouldn't this video 'work'?

  • @ShadowEnglishPodcast
    @ShadowEnglishPodcast8 ай бұрын

    Great episode! Very thought-provoking. Once I got a panic attack from distress after witnessing my (now ex) gf having them several times while we were dating. I had never experienced one before and I never did there after. I think the way she responded to stress somehow influenced the way I did on a subconscious level.

  • @electronicsafrica

    @electronicsafrica

    5 ай бұрын

    She probably was testing you

  • @internalizequotes

    @internalizequotes

    5 ай бұрын

    ?@@electronicsafrica

  • @byungs
    @byungs8 ай бұрын

    this is such an important topic that must be more understood. another great video dr.

  • @deathpyre42
    @deathpyre428 ай бұрын

    By the way, as to that point at 8:23 The Chinese anorexia researcher mentioned in chapter 1 of that book had been documenting and studying and screening for these symptoms already, so it's even more unlikely that there was a hidden group of western style anorexia nervosa sufferers because the few patients he got had very different symptoms.

  • @rogersnick17
    @rogersnick178 ай бұрын

    Masterfully executed episode Sir. Showing this to dozens of people that need to hear it in a way that will disarm them.

  • @mendesnicolas06
    @mendesnicolas068 ай бұрын

    Incredibly insightful! Thank you for this high quality content.

  • @magedgaber7541
    @magedgaber75418 ай бұрын

    amazing as usual DR. TARABAN , thank you

  • @asiamonet8830
    @asiamonet88308 ай бұрын

    Dr taraban, I believe some of these people KNOW what the hell they're doing when assuming these symptoms. Im always trying to get these folks to expose themselves.

  • @VivatVeritas1

    @VivatVeritas1

    8 ай бұрын

    I agree, it’s just another form of narcissism seeking a solid long-term supply of attention.

  • @espumatt
    @espumatt8 ай бұрын

    I agree Dr Taraban, this must be one of your most confusing titles and most fascinating videos yet.

  • @dariustakeda1609
    @dariustakeda16098 ай бұрын

    The need for colective awareness brings new problems who weren't needed to be brought up. This could be a self induced suffering (and individual who literally creates it's own pain out of nowhere) or an individual who is going through a objective pain but chooses this new problem to express it. Someone who cut itself because of replicated behavior just to part of something, or another one who is really going through something but instead of chosing a good cope, take part in this unhealthy practice because of the awareness.

  • @osigano
    @osigano8 ай бұрын

    You need to start recording in a room with better acoustics. This content is so good that it deserves crisp audio. It will bring more value than the beautiful room in the back.

  • @mark9294

    @mark9294

    8 ай бұрын

    Although I do like that room. It’s his trademark

  • @tonydiesel3444
    @tonydiesel34448 ай бұрын

    We live in a inverted world.... duality is what the rulers operate on

  • @rogers5765
    @rogers57658 ай бұрын

    Very insightful and educative thanks man

  • @michaelditto5469
    @michaelditto54692 ай бұрын

    Bottom Line Up Front (BLUF): Life right now is too easy. Most of these ridiculous cultural problems existed even 100 years ago. Necessary struggle equals strength. God help this society right now. Thank you Orion.

  • @supremereader7614
    @supremereader76148 ай бұрын

    That was a fascinating episode Oryan (however you spell you name) thanks especially for telling us about that book - but also your take on it as well.

  • @dudejoe8390
    @dudejoe83908 ай бұрын

    So does this explain why the new anxiety disorders fad is appearing in younger millennials/older gen z.

  • @MrBoxofplastic

    @MrBoxofplastic

    8 ай бұрын

    When I was a kid I never heard of anyone with anxiety. Now I hear all the time from people of all ages. I'm 41 years old.

  • @MatthewSmith-cp3hu
    @MatthewSmith-cp3hu7 ай бұрын

    this gives me a lot to think about you did a good job explaining it

  • @KevinMcClave
    @KevinMcClave8 ай бұрын

    Very interesting topic. Thanks.

  • @JM-cv7nv
    @JM-cv7nv8 ай бұрын

    A fascinating study in human behavior doctor... Thanks for the insight.

  • @elektrotehnik94
    @elektrotehnik948 ай бұрын

    Amazing work. ❤

  • @jimdandy8996
    @jimdandy89968 ай бұрын

    Its all about attention seeking. Like two children competing for attention from a parent.

  • @jimdandy8996

    @jimdandy8996

    8 ай бұрын

    @neptune4375 Except that he repeatedly used language to indicate attention-seeking, done in a fashion to falsely project to others that they belong to a cohort that is of a socially desirable status.

  • @danielademide

    @danielademide

    8 ай бұрын

    @neptune4375- Treat you like an adult when Stevie Wonder can clearly see you’re a child. Got it.

  • @ChocolateMilkCultLeader
    @ChocolateMilkCultLeader8 ай бұрын

    This was super interesting. More posts like this please

  • @cturdo
    @cturdo8 ай бұрын

    Like the PSA you described, drug companies advertise directly to consumers to generate demand for their products that are probably not needed.

  • @yasemin2863
    @yasemin28638 ай бұрын

    wow i learnt something new in this video. thank you.

  • @brandonmontgomery7461
    @brandonmontgomery74618 ай бұрын

    Great video as usual. Nice touch adding a title with your name

  • @andyprocter4680
    @andyprocter46808 ай бұрын

    I agree with you, in part, fer sure! I am CERTAIN their were folks who used this seemingly innocent situation to benefit themselves, also. Interesting episode! Keep on truckin’, kind Sir! :)

  • @superbirden57
    @superbirden578 ай бұрын

    The hysteria of the group of young women in Salem, MA that led to these young women accusing others of witchcraft comes to mind.

  • @bellatindale3120
    @bellatindale31208 ай бұрын

    Fascinating!!

  • @matthewnorris203
    @matthewnorris2038 ай бұрын

    I think you’re right. I’ve done it, and I have see many people growing up doing the same thing, in my opinion.

  • @SC-fk9nc
    @SC-fk9nc8 ай бұрын

    Fascinating!

  • @Mad4style
    @Mad4style8 ай бұрын

    Listen to me... You deserve 10 million subscribers! So much fantastic information on understanding human psychology. This isn't a bot, I'm a real person from Barbados and I'm very glad I subscribed.

  • @sjmiller6012
    @sjmiller60128 ай бұрын

    Would like to hear your thoughts abt Dark Triad theory. I'm sure you're familar. That's: Machiavellian behavior; and subclinical, Narcissism, & Psychopathy. I believe I see examples of these traits in my workplace and social circle. Appears to me that malevolence lies at the bottom. In my experience, malice is extremely common. Don't think it usually rises to true evil. But it's still there. Those perpertrators are getting something out of it. Could you pls address common malevolence? Thanks. 🤔🤔🤔

  • @rdg4616
    @rdg46168 ай бұрын

    you are a genius, thank you

  • @locNguyen-jb1vt
    @locNguyen-jb1vt6 ай бұрын

    Thank you

  • @aliiaimashova8238
    @aliiaimashova82388 ай бұрын

    It does. I feel like I am loosing my mind. Thanks for the book suggestions, i will read it

  • @adrianvramulet
    @adrianvramulet8 ай бұрын

    This is one of the most thought-provoking pieces of information I came across in a while. Thank you, Orion! I do have an off-topic question: what's your view on psychoanalysis, specifically the one that evolved from Theodor Reik's views?

  • @benfleschman1493
    @benfleschman14938 ай бұрын

    Fascinating

  • @gregtaylor9806
    @gregtaylor98068 ай бұрын

    This is better content than the redpill sexual dynamics, although I doubt it will have as many views

  • @jesuscamebackandyoumissedh599
    @jesuscamebackandyoumissedh5998 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @artsgabriel3764
    @artsgabriel37648 ай бұрын

    One of the best episodes! Can u talk about secondary gains in Adults with ADHD ?

  • @Nonplused
    @Nonplused3 ай бұрын

    Fascinating... Hmm I wonder what other recent increases in mental health issues we have going on recently???

  • @pauldeceglie6914
    @pauldeceglie69148 ай бұрын

    I think this goes far beyond just mental illness. I think what you’ve described here can be applied to a myriad of human afflictions.

  • @xaviermann5996
    @xaviermann59968 ай бұрын

    While I agree with your premise, I think you should also consider environmental toxins (biological or synthetic) that could’ve affected groups of people before (and now really). I think people really underestimate these factors on groups.

  • @DutchDansing

    @DutchDansing

    8 ай бұрын

    Turning the friggin frogs gay

  • @brianbarrett8739

    @brianbarrett8739

    8 ай бұрын

    Your entire comment is a demonstration of what the good doctor is talking about. While not a nonfactor, I think "toxins" get too much press. For example; male testosterone levels. Is it sedentary lifestyle, diet, social conventions of "all men are bad" and "men are responsible for all ills of society real or imagined, or environmental toxins? Our nervous and hormonal systems are locked together. If society constantly calls one group terrible human beings. . . do you not think that will not have an effect on the hormonal balances?

  • @xaviermann5996

    @xaviermann5996

    8 ай бұрын

    @@brianbarrett8739 I'm just saying if a population is fed a diet of chemicals or bad food, its likely to manifest in similar symptoms. Not saying one is more than another--cant say that definitively. Just saying they all have strong contributions.

  • @ZappyOh
    @ZappyOh8 ай бұрын

    We got here, because most people allow psychopaths in positions of power.

  • @VaronPlateando

    @VaronPlateando

    8 ай бұрын

    and sociopaths, and related sociocultural memes being proliferated.

  • @forgottenfuryan

    @forgottenfuryan

    8 ай бұрын

    Women are the majority of voters and don't register for Selective Service a felony if men don't violating the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

  • @ZappyOh

    @ZappyOh

    8 ай бұрын

    @@forgottenfuryan I'm not talking about America, but about human civilization.

  • @forgottenfuryan

    @forgottenfuryan

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ZappyOh Look for the pattern. Anthropologically speaking matriarchal societies are necessarily primitive in accordance with Briffault's law.

  • @crespomarq

    @crespomarq

    8 ай бұрын

    I totally agree with you...tons of psychos in power all over the world

  • @ytpah9823
    @ytpah98238 ай бұрын

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 📖 The topic is understanding the "symptom pool," which is important for understanding mental illness. 00:29 💬 The "symptom pool" helps people communicate internal suffering in a way that elicits appropriate care and concern. 01:11 🗨️ Direct communication often fails when the degree of suffering is high; instead, symptoms from the "symptom pool" are more convincing. 02:23 🌐 The "symptom pool" is a collection of evolving, culturally bound communication strategies. 03:33 🌍 Different eras and cultures have their own fads in mental illness, pointing to the role of the "symptom pool." 05:13 ⚠️ Care needs to be taken when contributing to the "symptom pool," as unintended consequences can occur. 06:21 📊 Anorexia is used as an example to demonstrate how awareness campaigns can unintentionally influence the "symptom pool." 09:48 🚨 "Secondary gain" is the benefit accrued from one's status as a victim, which can also influence the "symptom pool." 11:39 💡 Awareness about the limitations and benefits of awareness itself can mitigate some of the risks associated with the "symptom pool."

  • @brushstroke3733

    @brushstroke3733

    8 ай бұрын

    I'm starting a new channel to make videos about what I learned from other videos like this one. Your comments will be an excellent resource for me if I talk about any of the good doctor's videos. However, if you have any interest in starting your own channel and growing an audience, I kindly suggest you make yoir own videos summarizing what you learned from other videos. I think you'd be succesful if that is something that interests you.

  • @GustafStechmann
    @GustafStechmann8 ай бұрын

    Danke!

  • @melomateus_m.r
    @melomateus_m.r8 ай бұрын

    Ideas are like viruses, and they've never been easier to spread than today.

  • @hughjanis6439
    @hughjanis64398 ай бұрын

    I picked up on this a few years back when all these CPAP businesses started popping up. I thought this was bullshit because I've never actually heard of anyone dying from sleep apnea. All of a sudden, people I knew were on CPAP machines. Not many, but enough to make me suspicious. So, I believe the thesis of your presentation.

  • @stickiestfingers2155

    @stickiestfingers2155

    8 ай бұрын

    This has me considering that sleep apnea might be psychological. 😑

  • @charlesamor2827

    @charlesamor2827

    8 ай бұрын

    Sleep apnea doesn't kill directly. It stresses your heart and and causes you to wake up repeatedly, which messes up your ability to get restful sleep. This means you're more susceptible to cardiovascular diseases, strokes, or illnesses from lack of sleep. It causes 2x risk of death on what's already the leading cause of death. Actual deaths while sleeping are rare. Apnea is physically testable as a physical problem. The rise of sleep apnea as a diagnosis occurred in the last 15 years because it became easy to buy or borrow cheap wearable heart rate or blood oxygen monitors (like fitbit) and diagnose the problem instead of spending thousands of dollars on a sleep study. A pulse oximeter used to cost >$10,000 and now you can buy one online for $20.

  • @tim57243

    @tim57243

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@charlesamor2827Beware that some of the sleep apnea clinics are crooked. They administer the test and then sell the CPAP machines at a markup. The tests are designed to get a high false positive rate. I took the test, and the rubric for interpreting the scores literally had no score that meant "no problem detected". Everyone was guaranteed to test positive.

  • @kurokaien18
    @kurokaien188 ай бұрын

    This reminded me of a clone high episode where cleopatra has an awareness campaign for awareness and then you suggested that as the solution and I died laughing.

  • @thejorgelopez9135

    @thejorgelopez9135

    8 ай бұрын

    Clone high was the best

  • @hrafnkolbrandr
    @hrafnkolbrandr8 ай бұрын

    I hate to be "that guy"; but the Hong Kong anorexia example is the same thing we've seen with PTSD in veterans; and I'm not the first to say so. That said, good luck trying to bring it up without people freaking out. It's basically the same as bringing up any criticism of nurses or teachers- get ready for the backlash.

  • @MaxThriving
    @MaxThriving8 ай бұрын

    Always great content.

  • @misterl0gic
    @misterl0gic8 ай бұрын

    There's this actress who nearly a year and a half ago posted about her past issues with body dysmorphia on her IG... since then she's probably lost about 15 lbs that she seriously did not need to lose (either that or it was a body fat percentage loss that she still seriously did not need to lose). She really needed to have gained instead. Her excuse is that she's "totally into ballet now" despite clearly being beyond ballet age. I'm pretty sure her breakup had something to do with all that. I'm seriously debating sending this video to her...

  • @HeinzCave
    @HeinzCave8 ай бұрын

    Very relevant

  • @user-fe7dn4vq3j
    @user-fe7dn4vq3j8 ай бұрын

    okay, this is unrelated to the topic but its been burning on my mind and i wanted someone like you to answer it, i respect your rationality and calmness and ability to mix biology and psychology in your analysis making it fair and not woman hating or shaming or taking sides...so, the question is : do men hit the wall? is there an age where a man goes out the market? i've been hearing a lot of ''women age like milk and men age like wine'' (not on this channel, at least not so crudely) and while i understand, biology and childbearing and youth and all that, it has been explained to me and i have swallowed the pill (so this is not me being a bitter woman) but i'm just looking for fairness. if biology and youth and childbearing and all that is true, it must also be true to men, right? don't older men also become easier to tire, get diseases, lose erections, gain weight, get arthritis, become impatient with romance and courting games etc...just coz their sperm doesnt stop and they can impregnate a woman at 70 doesn't mean that they will or this is likely to happen....if women hit 25 and fall down their peak, dont men hit 45 and fall down their peak too? please reply.

  • @nunyabidness117
    @nunyabidness11716 күн бұрын

    I see this all the time. With the advent of the culture of victimhood and diminishing the value of personal strength, mental illness is now worn as a badge of honor.

  • @DavidRanalli
    @DavidRanalli7 ай бұрын

    In shamanic culture, when a whole culture goes mad, this is called Wetiko (or collective madness). It takes artists, better drugs, and meditation to heal the population

  • @michamichalak6200
    @michamichalak62008 ай бұрын

    You just presented beautiful case against "free will".

  • @MattMorency

    @MattMorency

    8 ай бұрын

    Remember that the awareness campaign was most effective among adolescents who don't have a fully developed prefrontal cortex, the impulse control and "will" center of the brain. Adults with developed brains and more experience were able to recognize a vague danger and avoid it.

  • @michamichalak6200

    @michamichalak6200

    8 ай бұрын

    @@MattMorencyEither there is free will or not. If there such thing definitely it doesn't switch on after adolescence. That's ridiculous.

  • @MattMorency

    @MattMorency

    8 ай бұрын

    @@michamichalak6200 there is free will, but there are degrees of free will. Who has more free will, the addict or the sober? Who has more free will, the incarcerated or the freed? I am arguing that while everyone has free will in an absolute sense, it fluctuates with age, situation, and individual decisions. What about you? How is this video a case against free will?

  • @michamichalak6200

    @michamichalak6200

    8 ай бұрын

    @@MattMorencythere is a feeling of "free will".

  • @dharmadasa66

    @dharmadasa66

    8 ай бұрын

    @@michamichalak6200 So we are all robots and have no agency whatsoever in making choices. Everything we do is pre-programmed to the tiniest degree. Unprovable hypothesis, hence falls outside the scientific method by definition and becomes a metaphysical a priori postulate.

  • @monikasolymos2396
    @monikasolymos239620 күн бұрын

    I think it is not that easy. I think of this illness, that it surely came from the devil. My daughter was tortured by him. She had dreams where I always told her, that she is fat. In her head he was constantly talking to her, gave her "good advises", as a true friend, not to eat to be nice. She couldn't eat anything I cooked, or the sandwiches I made for her for school. She felt sick of it. She lied all the time. It is a very motherly internal need to feed our children, so I was very sad too. I tried everything to make her eat. She hated me, although she knew she loved me. She mostly went away from home. I couldn't recognize her, she was so sad. I couldn't do anything. I prayed. She also prayed. Luckily God sent her a boyfriend who saved her. It was his family who fed her for a half year. This boy was a true hero. He had so must love and patience for her. They are still together. It was one and a half year ago. After she has healed, she told me, that she can't tell, where the real she was during that time, she wasn't present in life. Maybe she was in hell. Thank God she came back. She is a very joyful, kind, and compassionate person, and now she is just the same as she was before her illness. Take this illness very seriously, please everyone.

  • @raymondpaller6475
    @raymondpaller64758 ай бұрын

    Nice! Awareness of awareness; cross breeding recursion from math/computer science realm and using it in psych realm. And nice mention of secondary gain (looking at myself I'll have to cop to have indulged in it) as it seems probable that we severely under-estimate it's occurrence in ourselves (who wants to think of oneself as manipulative or twisted?) and it's super-saturation in society (looking uncompassionate at another is a taboo). Terrific videas.

  • @110458kt
    @110458kt6 ай бұрын

    Excellent video. I would like to ask if you think this phenomenon was occurring during the covid 19 pandemic? That whole thing seemed insane to me.

  • @megancyloneight9822

    @megancyloneight9822

    2 ай бұрын

    Mostly

  • @jesuscamebackandyoumissedh599
    @jesuscamebackandyoumissedh5998 ай бұрын

    This is a wake up call

  • @TheLegitIntelligencAagency
    @TheLegitIntelligencAagency8 ай бұрын

    A subtle 1500 kilogram truth bomb. Well done.

  • @nunyabidness117
    @nunyabidness11716 күн бұрын

    As a society we are emotionally subsidizing mental illness, then wondering why we suddenly have so much mental illness. We also subsidize addiction which raises the question: Is it better to have 1000 stigmatized addicts or 10,000 addicts who aren't stigmatized?

  • @mra.4466
    @mra.44668 ай бұрын

    Wow. I wonder if the same applies for things like Breast Cancer awareness and other illnesses other than mental ones. Something to consider.

  • @thevibe4520
    @thevibe45208 ай бұрын

    Awareness about awareness

  • @adbar25
    @adbar258 ай бұрын

    Amazing video! @psycHacks Orion, do you think the "Yellow September" would have the same impact on 'susceptible' people? Thank you for sharing scientific information and wisdom!

  • @zoso9391
    @zoso93918 ай бұрын

    This concept is great. Although it's very hard to use it to diagnose the present I believe. Because if I treat the "less have casual sex" thingy that has spread among everyone as a symptom (which I do) I may be wrong in cataloging it as a symptom of this "Symptom Pool" while other people might just see it as something else.Same thing goes for anything containing social media and such. How can we use things like this to diagnose the present when we are so involved in it that it's really possible that we are just being biased against something we can't see. Interpreting the past is always easier.

  • @BigLeagueChew11

    @BigLeagueChew11

    8 ай бұрын

    But not only is the past, as is presented to you, highly biased but the way you interpret the past is biased as well.

  • @zoso9391

    @zoso9391

    8 ай бұрын

    @@BigLeagueChew11 Of course, but don't you agree that the biased is way lower when interpreting the past rather than the present? It makes me unable to even attemp to draw any conclusions about the present because of how blind I am to the baises of the present.

  • @BigLeagueChew11

    @BigLeagueChew11

    8 ай бұрын

    @@zoso9391 It is better but maybe because that’s our only option. Like you said you really can’t analyze well the situation in the present, but as soon as you leave this moment of temporality, it becomes the past. So you really can only analyze the past.

  • @MrBoxofplastic

    @MrBoxofplastic

    8 ай бұрын

    People keep trying to rewrite history and judging people of the past based on today's society and rules. I don't think judging the past is easy because of our modern ethics and modern thinking. For example people are always criticized for having slaves when that was very very normal in some places and times.