Understanding and Using Odd Time Signatures - 6 Examples [MUSIC THEORY / RHYTHM]

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This video explains the basics of odd time signatures while also giving tips on writing them, and demonstrating various odd meters from different recordings.
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Table of Contents:
00:00 Intro
00:36 What Are Time Signatures?
02:30 5/4 Mission Impossible
03:41 Quarter Note Odd Time Signatures
05:21 7/4 "Money" Pink Floyd
05:30 Eighth Note Odd Time Signatures
06:31 9/8 "Scatterbrain" Jeff Beck
07:22 7/8 "Here Comes The Sun" The Beatles
07:42 7/8 "Classical Gas" Mason Williams
07:55 Sixteenth Note Odd Time Signatures
08:45 15/16 "Home" Dream Theater
08:55 Wrapping Up

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  • @SignalsMusicStudio
    @SignalsMusicStudio6 жыл бұрын

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    @seiph80

    6 жыл бұрын

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  • @n7565j

    @n7565j

    6 жыл бұрын

    If a teacher can't use examples, HOW CAN HE TEACH??? A math teacher would have a devil of a time trying to get concepts across to their students... Excellent video all the same, even though you were way over my head :-)

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    @KimonFrousios

    6 жыл бұрын

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    6 жыл бұрын

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    6 жыл бұрын

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    @melodyhough39804 жыл бұрын

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    @sushi_tech35

    9 ай бұрын

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    @rickard70314 жыл бұрын

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  • @volderhamer

    @volderhamer

    4 жыл бұрын

    When someone can play that song on any instrument, they can really call themselves good at that instrument.

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    @ayusharipirala3121

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@volderhamer James LaBrie can sing DoE really well so he's a good vocalist

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    @chrystalwayland3860

    2 жыл бұрын

    What About Confusion Girl Soflan-Chan Full Version (150+ Time Signature Changes)

  • @TheKut0klan
    @TheKut0klan4 жыл бұрын

    Pop: 4/4 Progressive Rock: *YES*

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    @aristotle5698

    4 жыл бұрын

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    @dbwastooshort

    4 жыл бұрын

    literally

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    @itsmedante.5325

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes/4

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    @Alberto-ny7kf

    3 жыл бұрын

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    @Yes-ev3sr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Math rock: hold my beer

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    @kfc_pog5 жыл бұрын

    "but there's really nothing to be scared of" *Dance of Eternity*

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    @rasputinsbeard38995 жыл бұрын

    "I was going to buy a copy of 'Abbey Road', but decided against it, because after hearing a 20 second clip of one of the tracks on youtube, with someone talking over the top of it, I think I've pretty much heard the entire album." - No One (ever)

  • @chriswilliams1096

    @chriswilliams1096

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was going to buy several remastered Beatles albums - but now don't want a penny of my cash ending up with a bunch of dicks (UMG) who would ban a video like this.

  • @humanseekingtruth6080

    @humanseekingtruth6080

    5 жыл бұрын

    Listening to the Beatles catalog is one of best things a musician can do in their life. They are completely ingeniously brilliant! But A LOT of of this new generation doesn’t like the Beatles or music from the 50s-80s and I’m really amazed at the lack of recognition and interest. That also explains why music is the way it is today along with the Music Business manufacturing the same songs rolled into a new artist.

  • @humanseekingtruth6080

    @humanseekingtruth6080

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Chris Williams • a lot of people were wronged by the music business or agents to the point where the Beatles are very protective of their music for a good reason and it is understandable. Ignorance plays into the reason why people don’t experience good things in life.

  • @theothertonydutch

    @theothertonydutch

    5 жыл бұрын

    What you are actually saying is that so many people don't know their influences. Mine are definitely the Beatles, Zappa, Bowie, but also more recent stuff that remind me you don't need much to break the chain like Arcade Fire, Superorganism and the Gorillaz. Moulds break. The collectors items exist because they do.

  • @humanseekingtruth6080

    @humanseekingtruth6080

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Ja Kooistra • well yeah they seem to mention Queen or Bowie at times but I wonder if that has politics behind it. Sometimes people haven’t heard of bands from that time, but I talk to the younger generations about music and they will actually say things I don’t like Elvis, or The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Yes, Boston, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, etc etc and no one even mentions Grand Funk Railroad. Even Christian music was way better with Talbot Brothers, Keith Green, Phil Keaggy, Kerry Livgren & Ronni Jame Dio, 2nd Chapter of Acts with A band Called David, and others. But music today is far far from the music of the resent past and it’s sad how the language and art of music has been dying in the 21st Century. We need a total revival to music and musicians from classical to the classic bands to the modern music.

  • @KonnerJohnson
    @KonnerJohnson4 жыл бұрын

    "Schism" by Tool is full of different odd time signatures, including 7/4, 5/8, 9/8, 11/8, 13/8 and 15/8.

  • @eattherex2571

    @eattherex2571

    4 жыл бұрын

    *laugh in the dance of eternity

  • @florencewinchester7852

    @florencewinchester7852

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lateralus too.

  • @Drefyxd

    @Drefyxd

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@eattherex2571 lmao

  • @davetourle4250

    @davetourle4250

    3 жыл бұрын

    Damn, you beat me to it. Tool are mathematical geniuses, who also are great musicians.

  • @lambsauce9404

    @lambsauce9404

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is pretty much nothing compared to dream theater

  • @jan_kisan
    @jan_kisan5 жыл бұрын

    man, you're the best music theory presenter i've heard so far

  • @beruanglaut3955

    @beruanglaut3955

    4 жыл бұрын

    check out zombieguitar tutorial, i think those channel is easier to understand

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    @baylinkdashyt5 жыл бұрын

    Hey... uh... Universal Music Group? I have never *in the history of KZread* seen a video that was more clearly qualified for fair use exemption under Section 107. Never. Ever. Bugger off.

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    @heavyreynald

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exception being "educational purposes", am I right?

  • @baylinkdashyt

    @baylinkdashyt

    5 жыл бұрын

    heavyreynald well, there is a four-prong test that is commonly applied for fair use, and if you've got two of them pretty clearly that's generally enough. I am not a copyright attorney - and if following my opinion breaks anything you get to keep both pieces - but this is exactly what it's for, yes, educational use. I think a defensible case can also be made that it's not commercial - even if he's getting per click money from KZread for it.

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    @brianhelmuth9414

    5 жыл бұрын

    Fair use can only be established as the modus operandi in a court of law, not willy nilly. Hate the KZreadrs lack of legal knowledge on this matter.

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    @heavyreynald

    5 жыл бұрын

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  • @brianhelmuth9414

    @brianhelmuth9414

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@heavyreynald Not what I said. If the creator of the content sues you for copyright, then a judge has the ability to dismiss the case due to fair use doctrine. It can only be administered within a court. Fair use is not a right, it is a legal ruling.

  • @stevestizzy
    @stevestizzy5 жыл бұрын

    Shocked that no one else is fascinated with your ability to play on time while talking and thinking :P Wow.... just wow !! Great job by the way :)

  • @imannonymous7707

    @imannonymous7707

    5 жыл бұрын

    Good observation i cant do that

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    @wickandvessel6346

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yup. I'm impressed! I didn't say anything cause I'm jealous lol!!!

  • @osareafallire

    @osareafallire

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I kind of threw up in my mouth at how straight sick that was when I realized what he was doing.

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    @dhr.neuteboom4536

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's the same as you can drive the car and have a conversation. He is doing it every day, it's normal to have the ability.

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    @farque7179

    4 жыл бұрын

    LOL, you serious?

  • @DROSTraceurADD
    @DROSTraceurADD4 жыл бұрын

    It blew my mind when I found out that Gorillaz's "5/4" was in 5/4😱🤣

  • @personperson6399

    @personperson6399

    3 жыл бұрын

    It blew my mind when I found out that Gorillaz was not a real band and I've been living in loneliness hoping to meet them my whole life to find out I've wasted it on a bunch of drawings and now I have no food because I spent all my money on Gorillaz merch 😱🤣

  • @BoughtByTheBlood
    @BoughtByTheBlood Жыл бұрын

    Really like that you use "real life" examples of each time signature so we can tell what each one sounds like & how it feels.

  • @PabloSaavedra84
    @PabloSaavedra845 жыл бұрын

    Actually... Mission Imposible riff is "- - . ." wich in Morse is "MI"

  • @SignalsMusicStudio

    @SignalsMusicStudio

    5 жыл бұрын

    holy shit! I didn't know that, that's pretty incredible! I thought YYZ was the first popular instance of morse used as music.

  • @Tmanaz480

    @Tmanaz480

    5 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if Lalo knew that.

  • @forentertainment3259

    @forentertainment3259

    5 жыл бұрын

    Holy what the fuck

  • @AxxLundOlga

    @AxxLundOlga

    5 жыл бұрын

    I would say that Beethoven was first when he wrote his famous 5th symphony 18-hundred something. Five in roman numbers are V and V in morse are 3 short and 1 long.

  • @PabloSaavedra84

    @PabloSaavedra84

    5 жыл бұрын

    Actually, the letter V was "morsed" to ...- because of the V Symphony

  • @comeacross9
    @comeacross95 жыл бұрын

    I'm an old guy and remember well the 1959 album "Time Out" by jazz great Dave Brubeck. "Take Five" was the most memorable song on the album written in 5/4. "Blue Rondo a'la Turk" another great song in the album was written in 9/8. In any event "Time Out" was pretty hip in 1959 and caused a lot of discussion among jazz players and fans. As an aside while not an odd time I love they way Lennon and McCartney inserted four 3/4 measures in "We Can Work it Out." For me it made a straight forward song interesting. Thanks for posting this and keep on keeping on.

  • @jayweh

    @jayweh

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm not old and I love that album! it blows my mind how the musicians manage these beats. "three to get ready" jumps between 3/4 and 4/4, and even crazier: in "kathy's waltz" dave plays a 4/4 melody on piano with a 3/4 drum backdrop! unbelievable.

  • @anrylstudios

    @anrylstudios

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ant-Man uses 7/4

  • @scottblackburn7192

    @scottblackburn7192

    4 жыл бұрын

    Blue rando a’la turk is interested because brubeck uses and alternative grouping of 9/8, 12 34 56 789, for three bars before going back to the standard 123 456 678

  • @waterglas21
    @waterglas214 жыл бұрын

    6:07 9/8 Is pretty common in classical western music. But the pulse is subdivided in 3.

  • @jstdun

    @jstdun

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have an example?

  • @waterglas21

    @waterglas21

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jstdunClaire de lune by debussy kzread.info/dash/bejne/eKN4waOxe9KwdNY.html

  • @quasarsphere

    @quasarsphere

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jstdun It's slip jig time, so literally any Irish slip jig. A regular jig is 6/8.

  • @heraldjenkinsvii2176

    @heraldjenkinsvii2176

    Жыл бұрын

    Ride of the Valkyries

  • @SengokuTheGouda
    @SengokuTheGouda3 жыл бұрын

    This is legitimately one of the best videos on time signatures I've ever seen. Fantastic job!

  • @AlefSousa017
    @AlefSousa0176 жыл бұрын

    7:22 Oh, now I understand why the repost. I had this video on my "watch later" list and suddenly I seen it again on the top of my subscription box. Universal Music Group is just so, uuugh.. Hope they don't copystrike my comment for writing their company name on it, hahaha. Anyway, great video as always, Jake! The removed audio clip didn't affect the overall meaning and understanding of the video, which was flawless as always!

  • @GP-yc2it
    @GP-yc2it5 жыл бұрын

    Odd time sigs are a mainstay of art rock. Rush, Yes, King Crimson, Porcupine Tree, Tool, etc, all thrive in them.

  • @marklydston90

    @marklydston90

    5 жыл бұрын

    The fact that he didn't mention Genisis, Suppers Ready, for 9/8 or that he didn't mention Zappa, saddens me. Although he came across very intelligently, and spoke as such.

  • @dlxinfinite7098

    @dlxinfinite7098

    5 жыл бұрын

    Zappa, indeed. Also Gentle Giant, Henry Cow, Univers Zero, Yugen,

  • @yudasgoat2000

    @yudasgoat2000

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jethro Tull, too-LIving In The Past is 5/4.

  • @philspill6854

    @philspill6854

    5 жыл бұрын

    Soundgarden

  • @666misanthropic

    @666misanthropic

    5 жыл бұрын

    Meshuggah

  • @sunavila
    @sunavila4 жыл бұрын

    Not only did this educate me on odd time signautres, but it also helped me better understand time signatures in general. Thanks Jake you consistently upload high quality content, I truly appreciate that.

  • @zaz4667
    @zaz46675 жыл бұрын

    After watching a few of his teaching videos, this guy is the real deal when it comes to music and teaching. Real detailed, clear and knowledgeable in the medium and advanced areas.

  • @javierdeljeur
    @javierdeljeur5 жыл бұрын

    9/8: Debussy “Clair de lune”, Genesis “Apocalypse in 9/8”.

  • @quartztrigger

    @quartztrigger

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also genesis cinema show in 7/8

  • @viridianloom
    @viridianloom6 жыл бұрын

    I definitely think an important aspect about learning to write in odd time signatures is that you feel less limited in your compositions by thinking outside the 4/4 box. However, as someone who loves and writes prog rock, you can end up going a little too far and forget how to write normal 4/4 music that people will probably appreciate more. So achieve balance ;)

  • @ze-ce.cra_

    @ze-ce.cra_

    6 жыл бұрын

    This is one of the wisest music compositional advice

  • @NicholasKrise

    @NicholasKrise

    5 жыл бұрын

    So this is my first time to your Channel. My initial reaction? DUDE, YOU'RE A FREAKING Godsend. With all of the bullshit that is on KZread, to find somebody who is knowledgeable, well spoken, and disseminates information accurately and in a method that others who may not be as well versed as you are I can understand is the exception more so than the rule. ThankYouThankYouThankYouThankYouThankYouThankYouThankYou I have a lot of friends that want my knowledge of music. To hell with it. I'm shipping them to you. You do a hell of a lot better job than I do. Signed, subscriber and at the moment your biggest advocate.

  • @Tmanaz480

    @Tmanaz480

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes it's best to compose your line and groove first, then go back and figure out the time signature after the fact. In pop/rock/metal there's less of a need to actually put it into notation. Just a need to teach your bandmates how to play the passage without getting lost

  • @babytiny5807

    @babytiny5807

    5 жыл бұрын

    Fucking awesome comment, noted.

  • @dlxinfinite7098

    @dlxinfinite7098

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wise advice. Depending on your audience, odd / mixed meter stuff can throw your audience off. And most musicians can't count.

  • @Icemann265
    @Icemann2653 жыл бұрын

    This video was awesome! Thank you so much never understood time signatures and no class I’ve taken ever broke it down as plainly as you just did.

  • @ilyagitelman1575
    @ilyagitelman15754 жыл бұрын

    You are a fantastic teacher. I‘be always struggled a bit with time signatures and this has been the best video lesson I’ve ever seen. Great work!

  • @NIIVES
    @NIIVES5 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I love odd time signatures as well, and the coolest songwriting-challenge with it is to make it sound so that most non-musical listeners barely notice it's not 4/4. That way you have best of both worlds: the power and feel of something familiar but the creativity and groove of something odd.

  • @GogiRegion
    @GogiRegion5 жыл бұрын

    The moment you said swing for 7/4, before you even started playing, I instantly knew you were about to play Money (unlike with Mission Impossible where I didn’t recognize it until you started playing.

  • @Luaporleafcutterant

    @Luaporleafcutterant

    5 жыл бұрын

    I knew he was talking about money before watching the video.

  • @spamsingles5948

    @spamsingles5948

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Luaporleafcutterant same

  • @pRahvi0

    @pRahvi0

    5 жыл бұрын

    5/4 is much more common (at least in the Western World). That might be why it doesn't instantly remind us of some specific piece (at least not as easily).

  • @foxeh123

    @foxeh123

    5 жыл бұрын

    Came to say this.

  • @caio509

    @caio509

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dream Theater's Panic Attack first verse is in 5/8

  • @Danomite1
    @Danomite14 жыл бұрын

    I normally don't comment very often, but I felt compelled to because this video had a large amount of useful information that was condensed and easy to absorb. Not only was it explained well (especially with the song examples given), it wasn't unnecessarily drawn out. Good stuff! I'm subscribing for sure!

  • @pallavgupta1148
    @pallavgupta1148 Жыл бұрын

    This is by far the best video on odd time signatures. Subscribed right away!!

  • @tr83ey23
    @tr83ey235 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely loved this video! Music with odd time signatures has always interested me more than anything. A quick note so as not to confuse people, though, 9/8 can be used as an odd time signature (another great example is Dave Brubeck's Blue Rondo a la Turk) but it is far more common to see 9/8 used in compound triple meter. Many pieces have been written with this as the basis and it is fairly regular. Just something to consider. 😊

  • @wisenotwithered5018
    @wisenotwithered50182 жыл бұрын

    I love this video (really love a lot of your videos!!) and I just wanted to say thank you for the mention at the end of music from other parts of the world. As a music teacher myself, I think it’s so important to keep in mind that most of the music we study and musical rules we talk about are very Western-centric, and acknowledgement of other cultures is essential! 👏🏼🎶👍🏼

  • @LEROBOToo3
    @LEROBOToo35 жыл бұрын

    My freind, you know your thing, you speak and teach right to the point. And most of all, you're simply real. Thanks, for knowing who you are and being confident about it all. That is what teaching should sound like. Congrats!

  • @liamhalvorsen460
    @liamhalvorsen4605 жыл бұрын

    wow this really helped me! I listen to lots of odd time signature music and never fully knew what people were talking about. I've watched other videos to try to figure it out but you put it so simply THANKS!

  • @DickEnchilada
    @DickEnchilada4 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I'm pretty well-versed with music theory, but I've been binging your videos because your instruction skills are top notch

  • @danvol3835
    @danvol38355 жыл бұрын

    Sir, you are an excellent teacher--making everything seem like something I knew all along. Bravo! and keep up the good work. BTW, an arguably more famous piece in 7/4 might be "All You Need Is Love." To all who say the Beatles knew nothing about music because they couldn't articulate theory--Birds know nothing about flying because they don't understand aerodynamics.

  • @justincase9284

    @justincase9284

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Ive always wondered if i would have been a better musician if i had learned theory. Sometimes felt inferior for it.

  • @Radien
    @Radien3 жыл бұрын

    Clicked on this suggested video on a whim, and now, I haven't been this intellectually stimulated by music theory for years. Enjoyed this video very much; happily subscribing now!

  • @idahagglund524
    @idahagglund5244 жыл бұрын

    I gotta say I love your channel. Recently discovered it and you explain everything so well. I've played instruments all my life; selftaught mostly, so never really got taught music theory. When it comes to rhythm I've always done it instinctually. These videos really help me understand the... well "science" behind it all.

  • @JoshuaConnorMusic
    @JoshuaConnorMusic5 жыл бұрын

    You'd be surprised just how common 9/8 is in world music, celtic music in particular. It's basically just 3/4 triplets, in the same way that 12/8 is 4/4 triplets. Lots of jigs in 9/8.

  • @JoshuaConnorMusic

    @JoshuaConnorMusic

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@RalphAouad well in the case of jigs it's simple, since it's just triplet 3/4, but this channel has always had a progressive rock sensibility, and not a Celtic one, so it's unfair to say 9/8 is simple and the way he's teaching here is poor. 9/8, when played straight, can be a very unusual time signature, since it's note groupings can be uneven, like 2+2+2+3, or some variation on that. It's not as unusual as say 7/8, which will always be uneven, but it's still a far cry from 4/4 or 6/8. 9/8 isn't always grouped in 3 lots of 3, and when it's not it can be quite complex.

  • @gattigatozza

    @gattigatozza

    5 жыл бұрын

    Is middle instrumental part of Alexander the Great by Iron Maiden in 9/8?

  • @johnpointon4462

    @johnpointon4462

    5 жыл бұрын

    And in jazz, famously, Blue Rondo a la Turk by Brubeck.... Not to forget: Take Five and Castilian Drums (5/4) and Unsquare Dance (7/4) - happy days!

  • @JohnBrooking4

    @JohnBrooking4

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, 9 can be divided in different ways. They’re all 9. One way I like to think about odd meter is to break it into indivisible sequences of 2s and 3s. So each measure of a 9/8 jig would be just 123 123 123, but 4 measures of Blue Rondo would be 12 12 12 123 | 12 12 12 123 | 12 12 12 123 | 123 123 123. Or if you don’t like numbers, just say “short” and “long” instead, elongating the word “long”.

  • @Kapir00to

    @Kapir00to

    5 жыл бұрын

    John Brooking riding the scree - genesis is the best example of 9/8

  • @vance8832
    @vance88325 жыл бұрын

    Tool is a great example of a band that uses odd meters very often in their songs. For example, in "Lateralus", the main riff goes from 9/8 to 8/8 to 7/8 all in a row. Its tricky to count but sounds really cool when it's done right.

  • @finnp.7170
    @finnp.71705 жыл бұрын

    I know absolutely nothing about music theory and all I can say is that you’re a very very great teacher, thanks for making these videos and please don’t stop making them

  • @crescendo5594
    @crescendo55945 жыл бұрын

    I really like the way you think, man. Odd time signatures are perfect ways to create contrast and you get the same resolved feeling you do when you play a note a half step high and then resolve it.

  • @jpatt194
    @jpatt1945 жыл бұрын

    When you talked about how odd time signatures can make 4/4 parts more awesome I immediately thought of "there must be the third and last dance" in Metropolis.

  • @caio509

    @caio509

    5 жыл бұрын

    " This one will last forever" ...

  • @mustardtitsthemurdermaster3486
    @mustardtitsthemurdermaster34864 жыл бұрын

    Some other songs that are in: 5/4: Stream of consciousness by Dream Theater 7/4: The Seven by Primus (can also be counted as 7/8) 9/8: Jambi by Tool (verse sections) 19/16: I don't honestly know a lot of songs in odd 16th note time signature

  • @faiqlatif3122

    @faiqlatif3122

    4 жыл бұрын

    19/16: Celestial Terrestrial Commuters by Mahavishnu Orchestra

  • @thegunganaficionado

    @thegunganaficionado

    3 жыл бұрын

    The intro in Pale blue dot by dream theater is in 19/16

  • @arsalmonar
    @arsalmonar5 жыл бұрын

    By far the best explanation of time signatures I could find on YT and great musical examples in this long, cold, lonely winter... Thanks ;)

  • @Karenmarquesf
    @Karenmarquesf5 жыл бұрын

    Thank-you-so-much. The first minute's already helped me A LOT!

  • @DTBCProdigy
    @DTBCProdigy5 жыл бұрын

    This whole video I was like "I wonder if he'll use Dream Theater as an example?" and I then I was pleasantly satisfied at 8:36.

  • @itsmedante.5325

    @itsmedante.5325

    4 жыл бұрын

    Okay.

  • @ArcherWillows

    @ArcherWillows

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought he was gonna use Dance of Eternity as an example and try to explain whatever the hell that mess of time signature is but I think he realized no one can play that except the original musicians

  • @nikiw1856
    @nikiw18564 жыл бұрын

    "AUDIO REMOVED THANKS UNIVERSAL MUSIC GROUP" , with staff notation provided I think the info is served.

  • @sergiocortez7600
    @sergiocortez76004 жыл бұрын

    Simply mindblown. I'm not a schooled musician, but I play piano (learned from empirical teacher at age 5), and self-taught in guitar and drums. With your videos, now I can be a little more analytical with my favorite prog band, Dream Theater. Thank you very much, man.

  • @lapdogg
    @lapdogg3 жыл бұрын

    I could listen to this man read me stereo instructions for hours and all my anxiety will just wash away. Came here for the time signature video & stayed for the hypnotic voice. 🙂🙃🙂

  • @han36solo
    @han36solo6 жыл бұрын

    Great lesson. Ridiculous strike. How the heck are we supposed to teach music without referencing... music?

  • @jmitterii2

    @jmitterii2

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is the absurdity of copyright. Pointless and should be abolished. If musicians want to make music, go perform it. And others will buy music still if they like your junk.

  • @FriedrichHerschel

    @FriedrichHerschel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Showing music sheets is also "violating" copyrights.

  • @ericnyman6681

    @ericnyman6681

    5 жыл бұрын

    FriedrichHerschel could be fair use if the video is not monetized and not for profit.

  • @ModernGolfer

    @ModernGolfer

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wait'll they start telling us we can't use instruments for playing music without paying them $.05 for each note being played. You know, "Because all the notes in the scale are in that instrument". The dumbasses... SMH. 🙄

  • @brianhelmuth9414

    @brianhelmuth9414

    5 жыл бұрын

    Fair use can only be established as the modus operandi in a court of law, not willy nilly. Hate the KZreadrs lack of legal knowledge on this matter.

  • @jaytiman1330
    @jaytiman13305 жыл бұрын

    My favorite example in 9/8 is Voices by Dream Theater. That intro is exactly what Jake described : a 4/4 bar plus an extra eight note at the end. I recommend you guys to check out that particular song. Simply amazing how Petrucci and Portnoy turned that odd time more musical

  • @sk8muppet
    @sk8muppet Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff here, really enjoyed the examples you picked. Good points about using them with 4/4 to create grooves

  • @ros8737
    @ros87375 жыл бұрын

    Realized I’d seen this before but still continued to the end. The ease of counting is impressive, so is the clear as a bell delivery of all that info in such a short video. *hits subscribe button*

  • @deadstar44
    @deadstar445 жыл бұрын

    Soundgarden got a lot of songs featuring odd meters from Spoonman (7/4) to Never The Machine Forever (9/8), some songs like Head Down I don't even know what the time signature actually is in some places because there are like 3 drum tracks superposed on top of each others producing polyrythms.

  • @maxmoseley6330

    @maxmoseley6330

    5 жыл бұрын

    I love Head Down that song screws with my mind

  • @GregglyPuff

    @GregglyPuff

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was about to comment that this whole video could feature nothing but Soundgarden tunes.

  • @jjsmith706

    @jjsmith706

    5 жыл бұрын

    Outshined, of course.

  • @sleeping.helper

    @sleeping.helper

    5 жыл бұрын

    I came here waiting for some soundgarden's tunes...

  • @johnjames9121

    @johnjames9121

    5 жыл бұрын

    Best fucking band ever!

  • @FourthSeatStudios
    @FourthSeatStudios5 жыл бұрын

    Symphony X is a band that I love largely because they love to experiment with time signatures. Paradise Lost's 6-6-6-7 is a good example.

  • @gustavoalcarde
    @gustavoalcarde4 жыл бұрын

    You made it very easy to understand, the way you switched from the scales to the actual song was brilliant.

  • @TheFullbend
    @TheFullbend4 жыл бұрын

    GOLD ! This is just too good! You are the man Jake !

  • @santiagolegarda4702
    @santiagolegarda47026 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, you're very awesome

  • @TheNiceJackass
    @TheNiceJackass4 жыл бұрын

    One of my fav songs with an odd time sig is Pat Metheny's masterpiece called First Circle. A crazy 22/8 time

  • @quitsdrop6995
    @quitsdrop69954 жыл бұрын

    This channel is truly a goldmine. Despite me not playing guitar, every single thing stated in this video applies to me and my instruments perfectly (obviously), but nonetheless, it is very easy to understand and comprehend.

  • @devolve42
    @devolve424 жыл бұрын

    If KZread had been around 30 years ago I would probably still be a musician. I took a lot of lessons on various instruments and classes on theory and composition. I had some great instrument teachers, but all the theory teaches seemed to go out of their way to suck all the fun out of it and make it as murky and difficult to understand as possible. There are a lot of great theory lessons on KZread, both deep explorations of certain concepts, and just quick illustrations that really simplify and make it all make sense. This channel is one of the best. People have so much more education at their disposal now. I'm envious!

  • @ilokikoval
    @ilokikoval6 жыл бұрын

    O cool, banning a music tutorial video for containaining music, genius xD

  • @swamdono

    @swamdono

    5 жыл бұрын

    I like how they think it's taking away from the Beatles, when in fact censoring this video will stop people who haven't heard them from discovering them.

  • @hybridwafer

    @hybridwafer

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's alright. It gave me an impromptu reason to go listen to the Ghost B.C. version of Here comes the Sun which is probably my favourite cover of all time.

  • @brianhelmuth9414

    @brianhelmuth9414

    5 жыл бұрын

    Fair use can only be established as the modus operandi in a court of law, not willy nilly. Hate the KZreadrs lack of legal knowledge on this matter.

  • @lambda494
    @lambda4945 жыл бұрын

    Universal Music Group would put a copyright on 4/4 if they cool. Awesome video. I see that Korg Minilogue back there too!

  • @raywatts5702
    @raywatts57024 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant explanation and examples, thanks Jake, happy new year!!

  • @rompofotters
    @rompofotters5 жыл бұрын

    A favorite time change of mine is in Wolves, by Big Wreck. It's so subtle many people miss it. But that's why I love it, they make it so smooth you can barely tell it's there.

  • @MickPosch
    @MickPosch5 жыл бұрын

    Apocalypse in 9/8 (part of the "Supper's Ready" suite) is a nice example of that time signature from early Genesis. Another interesting tune of theirs is Cinema Show...it's in 7/8, but, unlike Money, we're talking a really, really FAST 7/8...as a drummer, I have yet to play that song and end a fill without getting screwed up!

  • @TerryT304

    @TerryT304

    5 жыл бұрын

    With Tony Banks playing 4/4 to Phil Collin's 9/8, great stuff.

  • @mal2ksc

    @mal2ksc

    5 жыл бұрын

    _Money_ is in 7/4, as is Peter Gabriel's _Solsbury Hill,_ but that is really just a matter of convention and notation. Another fast 7/8 that really grooves is Dave Matthews Band _The Dreaming Tree._ King Crimson's _Three of a Perfect Pair_ has a section in 6/8 alternating with a section in 7/8 (in clipped 4/4 format).

  • @JohnBrooking4

    @JohnBrooking4

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was also going to mention Cinema Show. Incredible synth solo, all in 7! And very clever how they transition back into 4/4 at the end. They start playing a riff in 7, repeated a bunch of times, then they play the same sequence of notes in 4, and it’s such a subtle rhythmic shift that I totally missed it the first bunch of times I heard the song. Suddenly they were back in 4 and I hadn’t noticed when it happened.

  • @rayres1074

    @rayres1074

    5 жыл бұрын

    I learnt so much about odd time signatures through Apocalypse in 9/8...

  • @tonygnerre3187
    @tonygnerre31874 жыл бұрын

    Guys if this is interesting, check out Bicycle Race by Queen. After all the bicycle bells in the middle, it uses two measures of 13/8, which is very strange, and then a measure of 1/4(I believe) before returning to 4/4. Also at the end of Livin on a Prayer by Bon Jovi, there is a missing beat as it seems, a measure of 3/4 when it transitions into the last chorus. Not only that, but the key modulates at the same time!

  • @TheSharkAnt

    @TheSharkAnt

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm not really if 1/4 is even a real time signature.

  • @tonygnerre3187

    @tonygnerre3187

    4 жыл бұрын

    TheSharkAnt Gaming & More, I’m sorry I just listened to it in slo mo and listened to all the beats. It goes from 13/8 to 6/8 to 4/4. Check it out it’s wild

  • @I_scooter_fast
    @I_scooter_fast5 жыл бұрын

    This video blew my mind! I am brand new at learning music theory and play very little acoustic guitar but know the basics. I really enjoyed your video! Thank you so much for sharing!!

  • @marcosdeboni7109
    @marcosdeboni71095 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video! I can't imagine a better explanation. You're pretty good as a music educator, clearly you love what you do

  • @danieljgavigan
    @danieljgavigan4 жыл бұрын

    Genesis - 'Supper's Ready' has a section called 'Apocalypse in 9/8'

  • @slimyelow
    @slimyelow5 жыл бұрын

    "how can we parse them"; now you got my attention...

  • @mikejeannotte6642
    @mikejeannotte66422 жыл бұрын

    Crushed it. Best instructional video on odd time signatures I’ve ever seen.

  • @beckyp9633
    @beckyp96335 жыл бұрын

    Got lost down the rabbit hole trying to understand music theory. Subscribed! Thank you for the examples, it makes it easier to grasp.

  • @alsatusmd1A13
    @alsatusmd1A135 жыл бұрын

    9/8 in and of itself isn't actually so odd for Western music compared to the other meters you discuss in this video. It is just supposed to be counted as dotted quarter notes rather than quarter or eighth notes in classical theory. Also, if you resign any so-called "odd" meter with notes of half or quarter duration, you can recreate super-compound versions of popular rhythms (e. g. 10/8 [as 5/4 resigned with eighths] can be a march or a samba, "15/12" [as 5/4 resigned with triplets of eighths] can be a waltz and 20/16 [as 5/4 resigned with sixteenths] can be just about anything else).

  • @santibanks
    @santibanks5 жыл бұрын

    As far as popular songs are concerned, Peter Gabriel's Solsbury Hill is a hit all in 7/8 (I believe Money actually switches time signatures around during the solo?). Genesis wrote Turn it on again (also a hit) in 13/8. Tubular Bells has some kind of odd signature going on as well. As the 9/8 is concerned, I guess picking Supper's Ready from Genesis would be a better choice because it has a very obvious riff that demonstrates "9".

  • @Luaporleafcutterant

    @Luaporleafcutterant

    5 жыл бұрын

    Money switches time signatures during the chorus, I don't know about the solo.

  • @mal2ksc

    @mal2ksc

    5 жыл бұрын

    _Tubular Bells_ is 7/8, at least at the beginning. 2+2+3 as the basis for 7/8 also drives DMB - _The dreaming Tree_ and stretches of Rush - _Natural Science._ This is the first grouping I'll imagine if someone says "7/8 time" without actually demonstrating.

  • @joshburns1777

    @joshburns1777

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tubular Bells is almost but not quite in 7/8. If you had to find one time signature to label it as it would technically be 15/4 (7/8 + 7/8 + 7/8 + 9/8, which you sort of hear as 7/4 + 8/4, hence 15/4 for a single time signature). It would be very impractical and improper to write it like this though, so it will simply be written as a changing time signature as in my parentheses: 7/8 + 7/8 + 7/8 + 9/8. Money is in 7/4 and switches to 4/4 for the chorus and also for the solo (as well as the brief pre-solo build-up). It was written in 7/4, despite odd and erroneous statements that it was written in 7/8 (which are incorrect). The reason which I can remember reading to explain why it switches to 4/4 for the solo is simply (and perhaps disappointingly) because David Gilmour didn't like the idea of trying to solo in 7/4. It's probably also just because structurally it can make sense for the solo to be in 4/4 because the choruses have at that point already been in 4/4.

  • @KeithCollyer

    @KeithCollyer

    5 жыл бұрын

    Josh Burns I hear Tubular Bells as more like 7/8 + 8/8 - listen for the extra beat every other bar

  • @joshburns1777

    @joshburns1777

    5 жыл бұрын

    Keith Collyer Yeah that is what I said, but what you're describing isn't 7/8 + 8/8, it's 7/4 + 8/4, like I said. If you read the first paragraph of my original comment I explain why.

  • @drewlaredo7220
    @drewlaredo72205 жыл бұрын

    What a great video. Explanations with examples are flawless.....

  • @steve7onfire
    @steve7onfire4 жыл бұрын

    Hands down that was the best lesson on odd time signatures. You make it easy to understand. New subscriber from Darwin Australia 👍

  • @evergreenrider
    @evergreenrider4 жыл бұрын

    Very informative sir. I'm not a musician, I came hear to try to understand time signatures and polyrhythms after getting into Tool (lol). You're fantastic at teaching and explaining in a very easy to understand way. Thank you kind sir!

  • @tacofacefart
    @tacofacefart4 жыл бұрын

    One of the best examples of "effective" of odd time is spoonmam from Soundgarden. The opening riff is in 7/something but then the song takes off in 4/4. But the 4/4 feels really really 'rewarding' to listen to.

  • @johnstevens8253

    @johnstevens8253

    4 жыл бұрын

    The main verse riff in My Wave is in 5/4. It sounds really cool.

  • @2Langdon
    @2Langdon5 жыл бұрын

    Another excellent no BS, clear and useable, useful session! Thanks very much, Jake. I just had my brain mushed by watching several Jacob Collier videos (inspiring or what?) so thank you for helping me get to grips. I'm one of your patreon supporters.

  • @dougshankle7946
    @dougshankle79465 жыл бұрын

    This is a great lesson! Odd time signatures and time signatures in general have always given me problems. Thank you for sharing!

  • @michaelcottle6270
    @michaelcottle62704 жыл бұрын

    Genesis - "Turn it on again" top ten single in 13/8. Enjoy

  • @orderinchaos

    @orderinchaos

    4 жыл бұрын

    Also Stranglers "Golden Brown" which alternates between 13/8 and 6/8.

  • @NominalTopic

    @NominalTopic

    4 жыл бұрын

    Burt Baccarat’s “I Say A Little Prayer”..😁

  • @BiRDiEHere
    @BiRDiEHere5 жыл бұрын

    Your voice should be on a radio broadcast 😁

  • @bryanyasuhara2994
    @bryanyasuhara29945 жыл бұрын

    Super helpful. Thanks for another great video!

  • @granterwin952
    @granterwin9524 жыл бұрын

    As someone who is starting to take playing music seriously, this video is a great help in understanding time signatures. Thanks!

  • @Draygir
    @Draygir4 жыл бұрын

    Listen to enough Tool Songs and you get interesting videos like this as recommendation. :)

  • @ArcherWillows

    @ArcherWillows

    3 жыл бұрын

    literally just listen to dance of eternity once and time signature videos flood your reccomendations

  • @justincase9284
    @justincase92845 жыл бұрын

    8:56 self note. Odd time signatures back into 4/4 will give 44 more power/groove.?

  • @dougschrecengostii3656
    @dougschrecengostii36565 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video. I agree in that odd times are challenging, and certainly drive music beyond 4/4. Polyrhythms!!

  • @trevormcmanis
    @trevormcmanis4 жыл бұрын

    This is a fantastic video. You have a real knack for teaching. Thank you for sharing this video. Two huge thumbs up 👍🏻👍🏻 from American One Productions Rehearsal Studios in NJ.

  • @mathiasthebariguy1187
    @mathiasthebariguy11874 жыл бұрын

    As soon as 7/4 was introduced I knew Money was coming 😂

  • @ricardocastillo5485

    @ricardocastillo5485

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too! I was waiting for him to talk about 11 and Whipping Post.

  • @checkYVELLUAP

    @checkYVELLUAP

    3 жыл бұрын

    "bm pentatonic" ok its pink floyd

  • @gregorygelfenbuym8487
    @gregorygelfenbuym84876 жыл бұрын

    Hey, great video. The times in the description aren't precise, and there's a mistake in Home's time signature there (15/16 instead of 19/16), I guess it's because of the removed Beatles track.

  • @SignalsMusicStudio

    @SignalsMusicStudio

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ha thank you for commenting on that, I'll fix it!

  • @leeland446
    @leeland4465 жыл бұрын

    Wow , perfect instructional video! Thanks for your clear n clean explanation. Great work

  • @micustic
    @micustic4 жыл бұрын

    Great work, thank you, very clear and inspiring, M.

  • @hectormendoza7261
    @hectormendoza72614 жыл бұрын

    Aahh, I see what you did there at the end of the video...odd time signature editing...wise man

  • @thebreakfastmenu
    @thebreakfastmenu5 жыл бұрын

    I think odd time signatures written in ways that sound natural are the best. Something strange like 5/4 that isn't obviously screaming in your face that it's 5, I think makes some interesting sounding.

  • @sagehardware9990
    @sagehardware99903 жыл бұрын

    Such a solid lesson! Thank you!

  • @koryhays5642
    @koryhays56425 жыл бұрын

    Clear and concise as usual. Awesome job!!

  • @ktm_nl
    @ktm_nl4 жыл бұрын

    Just play the whole album of dream theater😂

  • @volderhamer

    @volderhamer

    4 жыл бұрын

    *every

  • @kjl3080

    @kjl3080

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@volderhamer dream theater is also the name of their self titled album

  • @ornleifs
    @ornleifs5 жыл бұрын

    If these times catch your fancy you should check out Dave Brubeck Time Out - fantastic music in odd times.

  • @timmmahhhh

    @timmmahhhh

    5 жыл бұрын

    And if you want your mind blown check out Brubeck's Unsquare Dance in 7/4 time. Actually it's 2-2-3 time which I read is more common in and derived from Turkish and Bulgarian music.

  • @rogerboorman7639
    @rogerboorman76393 жыл бұрын

    Still figuring it all out but this vid is SO much easier w. graphics to see AS you’re hearing it. Several other similar vids don’t do that. Ty!

  • @pderitis
    @pderitis5 жыл бұрын

    This is excellent, thank you so much! It it really explains time signatures in a way that I have not heard done elsewhere, at least not that I’ve seen! Thanks!

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