Once again, shout to whomever produces/edits lately for taking the time to add in a ton of footage and images of the actual trucks while the guys are talking. Adds so much to the video vs. just having an image on the screen behind them 🙌🏼

@robertannable9584

5 ай бұрын

I was thinking that too. great job, TFL team

5.0 Tremor sweet spot👌🏼💪🏽

@daveallen7767

5 ай бұрын

I'd have bought Tremor pkg. on my 2022 F150 5.0 but need 6.5 foot bed for carrying kayaks & ability to camp. So went with the FX4. I did add transmission skid plate from Raptor, that really protects the Cats from theft. But Tremor should be available with long bed

@daveharness70

5 ай бұрын

@@daveallen7767 I agree. I went from a 6.5' bed F-150 to a 22 Tremor 3.5EB and it was a huge change with one less foot of bed length. I guess that was a compromise.....in my case I'd rather have the supercrew (4doors) instead of the 6.5' bed. And having both on the Tremor would really put the breakover angle at a huge deficit.

@JT012

2 ай бұрын

Love mine!

Almost bought a 2018 Raptor 2yrs ago but we couldn’t get the numbers to work. Ended up with a ‘21 Rebel & love it.

I’m with Roman on this one with cost being a factor. I LOVE my 2021 Trailboss. But it’s great how much competition there is now. Good video as always guys!

Chill, guys. It’s only January. 😂

@josephthompson2462

5 ай бұрын

Why would their opinion change later in the year? They got to test all the tucks so….

@user-ch7kb7pe5r

5 ай бұрын

Maybe it’s because the 2024’s have been out since the end of 2023 and they’ve already tried all of the 2024’s

Great video. Amazing detailed coverage. GMC AT4X for my money with 3.0 liter diesel

Everyone and their grandmother has a raptor in my area. My zr2 bison is the odd one out.

Tremor. I got one loaded for 68k 402A. Beats the Rebel and Trail Boss in off road features and payload and towing. Plus more power and torque

I have the 2023 F-150 Tremor and have loved it so far.

Big fan of my F150 Tremor. Actually got to take it off road recently and with snow that has been fun also. It is very feature packed and my only complaints are is I wish I got the V8, and wish it had more color choices when I bought it.

Thanks!

I have the best 1/2 ton off road truck.. F150 TREMOR !!!!!!

The RAM with Hemi V8

What about the Warlock package on a Ram Tradesmen crew cab ? Lots of capability at an affordable price. Less than 3k option. Just bought a 2024 with 5.7 and tow package.

Your vids on the Rebel helped influence my decision to buy my 22. It’s been a great daily and overland rig. It’s offroad capability has surprised me, and it’s a fantastic road tripper. Only issues after 31k miles were a loose mirror glass that was replaced under warranty, and some infotainment glitches that were fixed with an update. I’m keeping it for a while, and do plan on putting small (probably an Icon) lift on it to fit 35s. But if I did need to replace it in the next few years for some reason, that ZR2 has caught my eye….

@TFLoffroad

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the update!

@johnmorris77

5 ай бұрын

I had a 2019 ram 1500 Laramie. Just traded it in on a Zr2 Silverado duramax 4 days ago

@GMCJay_lly

5 ай бұрын

Icon is good and underrated imo.

@GMCJay_lly

5 ай бұрын

The 2jz of diesels. Very cool. Im in Florida sooo, I'd be looking for an exhaust​ & stuff.... @@johnmorris77

@843MudMafia.

5 ай бұрын

​@GMCJay_lly they only got up to a 3 inch lift

Winch is actually really important in the off-road world

Just by reading the comments, we have a great disparity in what everyone thinks is the best. And I bet every one of them can back it up with good reasons. This is truly a good thing.

Under 55k, Silverado trailboss custom 55-70k, Ram Rebel Over 70k Raptor

@zacharygoeden1282

5 ай бұрын

46 grand custom 5.3 crew cab in AZ

I just bought a 24 Silverado ZR2 Duramax earlier this week. The LT trail boss was still 67k so going up to the Zr2 for 75 sticker was a no brainer. Btw I did not pay msrp. I paid under 70

@Inferno45

5 ай бұрын

How do you like it so far? Do you think its as good as a raptor or do you wish you got a raptor instead. Im just curious because everyone pissed on the zr2 calling it “not a real raptor competitor” so i wana get an owner’s personal experience.

@zacharygoeden1282

5 ай бұрын

Yup exactly ZR2 is way to go

@rickyjaimes2942

5 ай бұрын

👏

@johnmorris77

5 ай бұрын

@@Inferno45 mine has the duramax so it’s not anywhere near as fast as a raptor but I’m getting 24+ mpg and a raptor won’t be anywhere near that either. I’m very happy with it so far, the ride is better than people on KZread say it is. There was only 1 f150 raptor available in my area and it was another 8-9k over the Zr2. Personally I don’t live in the desert and don’t want the extra wide body. I feel like I got a ton of features for the money

@johnmorris77

5 ай бұрын

@@Inferno45 Also for me personally I would have bought a used TRX before I’d buy a new raptor but that’s mainly because I’m not crazy about fords engines and can’t afford a Raptor R for 125k

I agree 💯 with roman. I went ZR2 and TRX both are amazing. Raptor R or Escalade V is next but need to find a great deal. 😢😂

Zr2 with 3.0 diesel. Capable, effecient, descently priced, and overall well rounded.

@johnmorris77

5 ай бұрын

I just bought one 4 days ago. Traded a 2019 ram 1500 Laramie in for it

@jonh0130

5 ай бұрын

@johnmorris77 nice I'm currently on the market for one but I'm kist waiting to find the best deal

@jonh0130

4 ай бұрын

@johnmorris77 nice I'm picking mine up next week!

@johnmorris77

4 ай бұрын

@@jonh0130 what color?

@jonh0130

4 ай бұрын

@@johnmorris77 white with the diesel

great video... i'm more for mid-size, but this was a great video :)

Get a Tremor with the 5.0L V8 and put a Roush Supercharger on it and it’s faster than a R since it will be on 33s or upgrade to 35s!

Happy wt my 3.0 duramx , 25-30 mpg!2WD (dont really use 4x4 ) futures yes 4sr!

truck bumpers should be cheap and easy to replace or repair. The body - painted and nice. it's called a "bumper" for a reason

Thank you for slowing down the pace and taking the time to flesh out conversations; I would much rather have a longer more natural sounding video then to rush through it to keep it short (besides, anyone can increase playback speed if that is what they want).

You got to learn how to modulate the g80, mashing the gas makes it lurch, you have to burp the throttle, engage it then take off. Plus you won’t explode it with this method.

can you include seat comfort on reviews like top 5 most comfortable truck seats?

TRX, Trail Boss

@TFLOffRoad Andrev, respectfully @05:22 the Custom Trail Boss has cloth seats/carpeted flooring not vinyl. I wish your team would pick one of these up with the 2.7 liter Turbo Max for a full on trail challenge review.

Bang for the buck, it's probably a Ford F-150 supercrew 5.0 XL or XLT 4x4, lift and supercharge as needed. You can easily add a Torsen/Eaton TruTrac to the front differential. Slap 35's on it and call it done. Instead of off-roading a $100k truck, you are off-roading a $60-70k truck.

@Mike-te1xx

3 ай бұрын

Truth....

@JT012

2 ай бұрын

Or buy a Tremor

Ford needs to build a Tremor R, with a SC 5.0 and keep it for general off-roading, and the Torsen Front Diff, I'm not racing/running Baja. Also needs to have the 17" Wheels and 35's and optional 37's, and I'd love to see it as a SuperCab.

@xavierrodriguez7671

5 ай бұрын

They have build some out there from dealer

My prediction is the 2024 Ford Ranger Raptor will be crowned the best new mid-size off-road truck for 2024! BTW they’re starting to show up now, our local Ford dealer has one listed for $59095! a bit more than the $56K originally projected.

Why lift a rebel if you can have the air ride suspension? Raise for of road and lower for highway.

... think I'll stick with my '21 Titan Pro 4X , since they're not making them anymore ...

my choice at this time is a stubby single cab 6.5" short box ute , like shorter wheel base than a crew cab with a 5.5 ' box , swb utes drive like the 1980s-91 grand wagoneer /bronco/K 5 BLAZER /ramcharger, have owned or driven all of them , the swb one has to drive them to know the magic

@ryanmartinage

5 ай бұрын

This is the answer. A single cab short bed with a lift and tires will do better than anything on this list short of raptor prerunning activities.

prices are insane and are basically unattainable.

What these trucks need are portal axles would be a game changer.

@spindrift2719

5 ай бұрын

They aren’t axles they are just gears and they are 20K plus

@gymbo230970

5 ай бұрын

@@spindrift2719 If they were mass produced they could drop the price .

standard cab short box on 35's.. that's my choice

Tremor f-150, torsion front diff 3.5 eco

Woops! You completely missed one of the most capable options! The secret is You can get the FX4 in a reg cab with 122in wheelbase, which you can't get in a Tremor or a Raptor R! Who needs trail turn assist?

@anorakadventures

5 ай бұрын

Actually, I think Ford discontinued the FX4 for the RCSB in '24. My 22 is a unicorn, esp. w/the front torsen diff.

@daveallen7767

5 ай бұрын

Shame on Ford ! & I'm a ford guy

How are Raptors unobtanium? You can get a brand new Raptor below msrp for almost a year now

AT4X all the way!!

I saw one drive around in naples, fl last week... sliverado ev

Used ZR2s in AZ under 60 grand low miles

Up here in Saskatchewan we don't need ground clearance. We do need a better ride so we should have good springs and shocks. Two wheel drive is good enough. Driving on our gravel rural roads is what we do. A good grid road truck is what we need. A low tech pre-runner?

@jlspilledtruth

5 ай бұрын

99% of Americans don’t actually Need all that high level 4x4, skid plates, super ground clearance, hill decent etc etc. but it sure is a fancy way to go broke 😂

@timunderwood4314

5 ай бұрын

Thanks, I needed reminding.@@jlspilledtruth

Bring back Powerwagon

What happened to the Rattler?

Why don't you give these trucks an off-road score that you developed several years ago? Did you find it to not be a good indicator of relative off-road performance between off-road brands and models?

LT trailboss is 70k where I live. RST z71 51k-55k.

@45:37 @TFLoffroad: Toyota offers a factory 3 inch lift now… did you mention that?

@jondrew1

5 ай бұрын

They have a hate boner for the Tundra

I think you did a very good job with this. I own a 3rd gen tundra and really wanted the Toyota durability. I’m very happy with my truck even if it’s not perfect in every aspect, none are. They don’t have a preset version that compares even to rebel or tremor. The trd pro has a tiny lift. I did a limited trd OR premium with the trd 3” lift and am very happy with it. And it was less cost because I don’t care about a bunch of pro badges. If money wasn’t an object I buy a raptor R. All day.

Fox Shox is a brand name.

For the prices of these full size "off roader's" I'd rather get a Unimog.

I like 👍 ford raptor r F 150💜🌷🇺🇸

32 inch tires on the TRD Pro? I figured that would be on the regular Tundra, idk why they don't off the 6.4 in Rebel it would be for sure best for money then.

@jondrew1

5 ай бұрын

They are 33” tires on the TRD Pro Source: I own a TRD Pro

@seetownwv

5 ай бұрын

@jondrew1 I would hope so lol. Couldn't see Toyota not try to get ground clearance.

The best off roader is the one you own lol 😂

My truck rides way better with its lift. I did new front Bilstein coilovers and new rear springs and shocks. Rides so much softer/smoother and handles the road much tighter. No body roll at all. No nose diving at brisk stops. Cheap lift kits will ruin your truck. Pay for the right equipment and don't ruin your expensive truck with spacers or pucks.

Tremor with the torsen front diff is the way to go!

👍👍👍👍👍👌👏

GM cayon is coming up in the world

I drive my TRX off-road like I stole it. I have aftermarket bumpers (better approach angles). I have broken axels and destroyed tires. I'm not a youtuber or own a off-road company, I just drive it the way it is supposed to be driven. Why would anyone spend that much on a truck not to drive it that way?

ram POWER WAGON is best bang for buck.....and you guys should know this

@michaeljordan6090

5 ай бұрын

Power wagon is a 2500 series this was 1500

@Mike-te1xx

3 ай бұрын

I guess with its low payload it is similar to a half ton.

First

LOL.... 21:36.... ' For all of you conspiracy minded people, theres ice tea in this water bottle ' ....Id like to add , for those like minded people that theres really no such thing as a need for an Diff Lock because, as you know, its a FLAT Earth... ;) LOL Roll on

I’ll stick with my Raptor 37.

Haven’t watched the video yet, but I already know it’s the Power Wagon. Obviously Raptors and TRXs are better at high speed, but as far as getting past obstacles, PW > all others.

@garysarratt1

5 ай бұрын

It’s a ¾ ton.

@marvinheadrick3511

5 ай бұрын

@@garysarratt1 I’m pretty sure they changed the title after I had posted. Because at that time it didn’t say 1/2 ton.

Right Andre? Right? Right? Right? Right? Do you guys compete on how many times you can say that word in every video?

Roman will stop drinking iced tea once he starts getting kidney stones.

way too much money 💰

I'll keep my Tremor 5.0 coyote.

Didn't know F-150 was full-size

@is6566

5 ай бұрын

Why what did you think it was? Midsize? Heavy Duty? Compact?

@BugattiONE666

5 ай бұрын

@@is6566 well yeah, Midsize. Ranger is compact, F-150 is mid, F-2/350 are fullsize, F-4/550 are Heavy Duty?

@jonh0130

5 ай бұрын

​@@BugattiONE666no

@is6566

5 ай бұрын

If the Ranger/Tacoma/Colorado/Canyon are compact then what is the Maverick? 😍

@BugattiONE666

5 ай бұрын

@@jonh0130 u guys understand im accepting i was wrong right?

…A used Toyota Tundra

💈💈 Only one truck that will take you there and back home....TOYOTA TRUCKS. TUNDRA, TACOMA, 4RUNNERS, LAND CRUISER= QDR (QUALITY, DEPENDABILITY, RELIABILITY). 🌄

@RichardJoashTan

5 ай бұрын

Not me, ONLY ONE TRUCK THAT DOES ALL OF THE ABOVE IS THE MITSUBISHI TRITON.

@is6566

5 ай бұрын

Why ARE YOU ALL YELLING?

@2-1inffwa97

5 ай бұрын

All companies have higher prices and shittier reliability to include Toyota I’ve had a tundra with valve failures at 45k miles A Ram with 3 transmissions replaced before 90k F150 front differential replaced at 120k and Not to mention electronics in all of them

@johnmorris77

5 ай бұрын

@@2-1inffwa97damn bro I’ve had 9 trucks in my life all of them relatively new and I’ve never had anything go wrong with any of them besides changing a radiator on a 08 4.8 vortec Chevy with 130k on it. Makes me think you may be abusing your vehicles brotha. I always let my trucks idle and warm up even in summer. Always let them idle for 30 seconds when I park before shutting engine off, never push the pedal until your coolant temp has been up to operating temp for a couple minutes.

@2-1inffwa97

5 ай бұрын

@@johnmorris77 rural roads are never easy on vehicles nor Alaskan winters My vehicles life on paved roads are 30% of the mileage at best Everywhere I’ve ever lived outside of the military I could drive all day never once touching pavement i never abuse my vehicles but I sure do use them

Wasted time

@kingpin3919

5 ай бұрын

Wasted comment

Unrealistic conversations. You are like a marketing tool for car manufacturers with a little bit of "objectivity". Sentences like "but you won't get such tires with this equipment" sound downright grotesque. You completely ignore third party equipment and models from previous years (still on sale) which, with a little work, give the user the basis for their own great truck for 1/2 - 2/3 of the price you are talking about.

does ford have the rattler for the F-150 if they do is that like above the FX4 but below the tremor or am I wrong on that because they didn't mention the rattler F-150