This is the buyer’s guide I needed!

@TFLoffroad

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words. Very much appreciated!

@75pontiac45

7 ай бұрын

@@TFLoffroad yall have the most informative and real content on the net. It’s great info and very entertaining as well. Thanks for all yall do. I’m buying a midsize truck this year and can’t wait to see what yall put out before I do. I’m so far a bit disappointed in the new Tacoma and a Colorado, with cruise control, is looking better and better

@ScoobyFermentation

7 ай бұрын

A regurgitation of the spec sheet is not what I was hoping to hear.

@MUISHAGGY572

7 ай бұрын

So far the new Ranger is what I'm attracted to the most.

@MichealBacon

6 ай бұрын

@@MUISHAGGY572 You must be a chubby chaser cause that's the worst of the bunch

I really enjoy my 2020 Frontier. Old body style but with the new engine and 9 speed. It’s been completely solid, tows well, and is comfortable. It rides well and has a robust shared platform with the Titan. No start stop, no “modes”, just a good solid truck with an interior that’s super easy to clean when I put it to work. I bought it used for $27k 18 months ago and have put 30k miles on it since. It’s a crew cab long bed 4x4. Completely happy with it.

@MontanaRealtyCompany934

7 ай бұрын

Very ugly truck

@BuhdFrankDaTank93

7 ай бұрын

I'll take an ugly truck so long as its a good deal.​@MontanaRealtyCompany934

@ScoobyFermentation

7 ай бұрын

Doesn’t get the chicks unless it has 35s and does wheelies like Bigfoot.

@AA-vr8ez

7 ай бұрын

@@MontanaRealtyCompany934it’s the least ugly truck on sale now. Toyota is by far the ugliest.

@63Imp283

7 ай бұрын

What's the tow capacity?

I really love my 23 pro 4x. I am not sold on these 4 cylinder turbos. Especially on an all new platform. And after hearing of all the software and screen issues on the colorados I’ll glad I stayed with a proven drivetrain.

You can actually get a Pro4x for under MSRP. Solid v6, 9 speed trans and just the right amount of tech. This truck for me is what a truck should be‼️

@RKDriver

6 ай бұрын

Got mine for 5k off MSRP. Love it!

@familydad3241

6 ай бұрын

I've yet to find a dealer to budge of MSRP? Where you guys guys from? What was the OTD price?

@Giixxersquid

6 ай бұрын

I literally lease from Nissan and they’re not trying to budge on pricing in the slightest! Mind you I’ve been a loyal customer for 12 years. Trucks are getting 0 deals

I own the 22 Nissan Pro-4X and love it! No four cylinder here.

@texttwenty-nine1627

6 ай бұрын

How's it been in terms of reliability? Just put a beautiful blue 24 pro x in my garage. I can stare at it for as long as I like driving it. 😂

Honestly while it's not the fanciest if I was just going off of what's the "best buy" I would have to give it to the Frontier. 40k gets you a V6 with 4wd and a rear locker. Midsize trucks are just becoming way to close in price to full size these days to justify the purchase in most situations.

2024 frontier…hands down. Simple yet modern and solid drivetrain. All these new trucks are complicated craps and as big as older full-size trucks. It’s crazy that people are paying for this much for these things. Spend a few bucks on bigger tires and small lift. These trucks, like the tacomas operate everywhere in the world in mostly stock form.

@willcarter495

7 ай бұрын

Nissan is a dying brand which basically sells rental/fleet cars or to people with bad credit. Infiniti will be first to go but I wonder about Nissan long term.

@booster8497

7 ай бұрын

@@willcarter495 it may be so…but the facts are the facts. Frontier is a very good truck and specially a value option. Titan as well.

@robertopics

6 ай бұрын

​@@booster8497the only con is that most dealers around my area want 50k for their pro4x models.

@useryggfdcc

6 ай бұрын

​@@willcarter495 Noth America is not the "world ". Nissan/ Datsun sells millions of trucks worldwide.

@willcarter495

6 ай бұрын

@@useryggfdcc great. Still wouldn’t shock me if they pulled out of North America at some point. Infiniti is toast. Nissan is going the way of Mitsubishi.

$70k for a midsize truck with a pitiful 5' bed is stupid expensive. About $20k above where it should be, especially given the same-as-the-rest powertrain.

@a88304

7 ай бұрын

Yup just like folks that pay $80k for a full size truck with a 6’ bed

@ioanandrei8814

7 ай бұрын

People pay for this useless machines😂 mauler crawlers😂

@Fireballsocal

7 ай бұрын

36K MSRP for the base SR with no options besides 4x4. You won't be able to find those on the lot nor get off the lot under $40K if you could. I'll take a 30 year mortgage for my new truck please.

@jaywade6443

7 ай бұрын

My grandma is 75 she drives an 83 F150, 8 ft bed, she bought it off the lot new, drives it everyday, has never hauled anything in the bed.. no scratches in the bed at all (there are a few tiny rust spots in the corners)

@ferretsmiles

7 ай бұрын

Take a lower trim truck and build it to match that truck. Tell me how much it costs in both time and money. Then let's see if it still comes with a valid warranty.

Bought a 2023 Frontier PRO-4X and couldn’t be happier. Crazy how every truck review channel severely overlooks the value and capability the Frontier delivers especially for the price. You can keep the overpriced bricked Chevys, gigantic iPad consoles, and 4 banger turbos.

@jaimieconroy36

7 ай бұрын

Agreed. Not a fan of turbos.

@duncdunc76

6 ай бұрын

Gotta agree. I might be looking for a nice 3rd gen used Frontier some day once I'm done with my 2008 Frontier with 416,000 on it. That is as long as it's new drivetrain keeps a good reliability rating. Otherwise I'll just be looking for the newest nice 2nd gen 4x4 crew cab long bed, that is just like my awesome 2008. Nothing beats the 2nd gen Frontier Titan platform for a great functional, reliable, and value oriented truck imo.

@FollowingDopamine

6 ай бұрын

100% Just Facts Here!!

@RKDriver

6 ай бұрын

Same here. Just can't beat those Nissan V6's that have been around for decades and improved on every year. Plus gas mileage with their 9spd transmissions is just as good the 4 bangers. Only thing I wish the P4X had was a telescoping steering wheel.

@mackjones7688

6 ай бұрын

I am a fan of turbos... on diesels.😂 I can't stand gas powered unless it's at a V6, V8 or I6. I wouldn't mind a turbo on my current vehicles. They could use some pep and fuel mileage. I just don't agree that Turbos should be expensive anymore. I certainly don't believe in making a Turbo charged, diesel tech infused, gasoline 4 cylinder engine into a replacement for a Super Charged V8 in a full size truck. Be it 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, or 1 ton. No replacement for displacement is a fundamental truth of life and reality.

My dad just got the brand new frontier pro4x . I love how the steering feels nice and heavy. And proper v6 with an amazing v6 . It's the best mid size truck out there. Hands down

Maybe younger people need to know that it used to be unheard of to pay full MSRP, so much so that Hank not paying a penny over sticker was a joke on king of the hill. So if the car is marked up, let it rot on the lot until they're happy to give it away. They'll survive.

@icepick1514

6 ай бұрын

This. We're doing it to ourselves. This keeping up the Jones mentality has gotta stop.

Like the last generation, in my opinion, the Zr2 is still the performance bargain in its class at 48k. Still loving my 19 Zr2 I bought new for 40k. Only issue iv had in 41,000 mi of ownership is a bad shift lever park sensor. I'm tuned and I drive it like a sports car, turns heads everywhere it goes , can go off road all day then hit the interstate or paved windy back road on the way home at 80+mph with similar driving dynamics as an suv. Love it.

@JoeMoutard

6 ай бұрын

I have a 2020 Bison and absolutely love it. The new ones addressed some of the biggest issues that people found as they tried more and more adventurous things and gave a much needed interior update. Unfortunately, the price went pretty nutty, but it is consistent with rate of inflation and still offers more capability than anything else for the same price.

I feel like the Frontier would be a good choice

@Mylifeislegendary-982

7 ай бұрын

Frontier is not a good choice at all.

@scottmickna1893

7 ай бұрын

The Frontier is a great choice.

@ejesoriginal

7 ай бұрын

For the money, you might be right.

@hanksta34

7 ай бұрын

Better to buy a 2 or 3 year old Titan. The gas mileage doesn't differ much and the depreciation puts you at the level of the frontier.

@jstitan2972

7 ай бұрын

History of the Frontier would prove its a great choice, people who smack talk usually have never owned one

I wanted a small 4x4 truck with a NA engine as a daily driver and for weekend trails. After looking at all each company had to offer I chose a 2023 Frontier Pro4x with all options besides sunroof and leather. Its a great, old school, uncomplicated little truck. It does everything I want a small truck to do. I could be totally wrong, but I don't see these 4cyl turbo motors holding up long term.

@Clockwork0nions

7 ай бұрын

Ranger would be the only exception to this thought for me. Those inline 4’s have had the piss best out on them in the Mustang since 2015 and I don’t think I’ve heard a single negative thing about them.

@duncdunc76

6 ай бұрын

​@@Clockwork0nionsimo the stress the 4 cylinder is seeing in a Mustang isn't comparable to the stresses the engine will see in a truck with load hauling, towing, and off road driving.

@Clockwork0nions

6 ай бұрын

@@duncdunc76 I honestly would say they're getting waaaaaaay more stress in the Mustang. Dudes have them making over 600+HP, dozens of pounds of boost, and running times similar to PP+ GT's in the 1/4 mile...on bolts ons and stock heads. Those engines have been so abused in both platforms that if they were going to have issues we would have seen them by now.

@useryggfdcc

6 ай бұрын

Turbo engines are used all across the world. My brother is an auto mechanic and the Turbo maintenance is super easy , just remove turdo and reinstall overhauled unit.

@duncdunc76

6 ай бұрын

@Clockwork0nions those are some good points I suppose, but I'm not sure racing and maximum engine performance translates into engine reliability and overall quality of an engine. Lots of high performance engines out there are known to be unreliable. Not saying this one is unreliable as only tine will tell. I just try and take all the info out there that's been presented and backed up by factual analysis and proof and make an assessment. And is seems to be a pretty well known theory that naturally aspirated engines are more reliable then turbo charged engines. Not saying that turbo engines can't be reliable as they can be. I'm just saying if your a person that needs to buy a vehicle and you need it to last and be very reliable then you might be better served choosing a naturally aspirated engine over a Turbo engine.

A friend of mine buys his vehicles in base configuration. Not that he cannot afford a fully loaded trim but rather he believes the more mechanical and electrical features then the more things that can break. For example he prefers a seat with a mechanical lever than an electrical seat. Personally I like seats with memory positions depending on who is the driver. Watching this video, the level of features, and prices 50-60k makes me think there is an underserved market segment that wants basic 20-30k truck. We need a video that shows the value options for ‘24.

@Clockwork0nions

7 ай бұрын

Maverick was supposed to be that truck and I’ve yet to see one under 35k at a dealer in

@manwithnoname734

6 ай бұрын

Same here. Tradesman Ram 3500 HO with the AS69RC for work, subaru crosstrek base model with a manual for daily, and a tacoma TRD OR with no extra packages. Keep it simple and keep it reliable.

The amount of work you guys put into your episodes is astounding. Another great episode and just what we needed!

Just transitioned to a 2024 4runner TRD Off Road Premium from a 2020 GMC Sierra 1500 AT4. My engine failed due to bad lifters at 46000 miles. Loved that truck but no one can trust a Chevy or GMC 5.3 or 6.2L engine. They all have these compromised lifters and GM is just trying to push them past warranty. You should not review a Chevy or GMC truck or SUV unless you point out the lifter problem and state whether it applies to the engine in the truck you are reviewing. My 6.2 L AT4 was fixed under warranty, but with the same defective parts. They only fixed one bank of lifters and I would have to have another failure to get the other side addressed.... and they still use the defective part instead of actually fixing the problem. Several Class Action Lawsuits on this issue. Bought the 4runner for its old school V6, reliability, low tech approach. After the GMC fiasco... I just want a vehicle that can be counted on.

@nathanrobertson3349

6 ай бұрын

Toyota is the way to go. If you want reliability. And still good off-road performance. Best resale value.

If I was looking for this type of vehicle it would be the Nissan Pro4X with a naturally aspirated V6 over the high strung, complicated, and expensive turbo 4 cylinders.

@Holden-McGroin

7 ай бұрын

Don’t get the “high-strung.” The turbo 4s make considerably more torque at a much lower rpm than the v6s.

@adamb6516

6 ай бұрын

I just picked up the pro-4x with 6k off msrp. It’s the best value for the money in my opinion. The only other truck I would consider in the list is a Tacoma but not a fan of moving over to v4.

@Holden-McGroin

6 ай бұрын

@@adamb6516 It’s an i4, not a v4. Glad Nissan still offers a N/A engine for those that prefer it, but I can’t see that continuing much longer.

I feel like Andre is a legitimate good person. I will always click on videos featuring him.

@abou824

7 ай бұрын

Love Andre! He's very funny too.

@TheZR2Kid

7 ай бұрын

Andre is the main reason I watch TFL, he’s the workhorse of the company.

@user-gq2vn1xj2r

7 ай бұрын

I'll bet you were the teacher's pet in grade school.

@QnA22

6 ай бұрын

As an ex-Soviet family i was quite disappointed he named Buhanka a Russian van instead of Soviet. I am aware that type of ingrained fascism among Russians is nothing they can do about, but it's just disappointing to see with a guy i think is aware of all the atrocities inflicted by Russia and the actual production of the Buhanka not being Russian. It just pains me and have to think back of the 1/3 of the family murdered by Russians and how apparently, their deaths mean nothing to Russians. Feels more like dancing on their graves while stealing their accomplishments. Anyway, personal thought i probably share with millions of ex-Russian oppressed nations.

@abou824

6 ай бұрын

@@QnA22 ? The UAZ factory has always been in Russia, so the buhanka is a Russian van...

Ranger fan boy, had an 86’ with v6 and manual hub lockers , 89’ 2wd limited slip rear (pre runner), 94’ 5 spd manual, short bed, small street tires (commuter), currently 2021 XLT tremor to be the best weekend warrior dad I can be, smiles per mile 🤙🏼

I hope people wise up about prices..... I just bought a new Nissan Frontier Pro-4X a few months ago. $42,300 with all the packages except the sunroof and leather seats. I am very happy. Sold my 2015 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited. I do not go serious rock crawling anymore. I love the comfort and technology and the direct aspirated V6. I thought about the new Tacoma, but am skeptical about the durability of the small engines with turbos (though Toyota will be one company that fixes their problems). The projected price for the one I wanted was stupid, so after driving all of the mid-sized truck, the Frontier was my choice. The Colorado with cruise control as an add-on is funny (you guys crack me up).

@richman555

7 ай бұрын

I am hopeful that with all of this competition, it keeps prices lower and creates better deals. Once these are seen on lots, there will be no reason to overpay.

Thanks so much for organizing the list and sharing on the screen. Mostly staying on the topic with important details about each midsize truck. 👏👍

Great summary of what’s coming for ‘24. Best wishes to you and TFL and Happy New Year guys!

I know everyone sleeps on the frontier but honestly it's the best bang for the buck. I love my D40 CC 4x4 Midnight. I purchased it used a few years ago for $28k with 13k miles. It's basic, bare bones and definitely dated but it's handled everything I've thrown at it from getting to dispersed camping spots in the Nevada desert and mountains to moving furniture or construction supplies and towing a Civic back from Nashville for my brother, it handled extremely well even without the extra thrills I don't need. When I was shopping around I tried the Taco, as everyone would, the Frontier and the Ridgeline, the Ridgeline rode extremely nice but didn't "feel" like a truck. When it came down to the used Taco with 66k miles and the Frontier at 13k miles I had to go with the Frontier especially with the $12k price difference. I was lucky to get a 2019 which is the last year for the 4.0L V6 and 5 AT, yes it's extremely dated especially the interior but it's reliable and dependable. I see why they kept it the same for almost 15 years because it just works. As for the domestic models the only one that peaks my interest is the Ranger but I'll wait until the quality is proven. Don't get me wrong I love my Yotas I still have my original 2014 Scion xD and a used 2011 Toyota Venza AWD but when it came down to it I couldn't justify paying the "Toyota Tax", it's a truck not a luxury car.

Still love my 2021 Tacoma TRD 4X4 Premium V6. My bush off road vehicle with a few suspension upgrades. Can't be more happy.

Geologist here that bought used 2016 Nissan Frontier Pro4x with 8k miles on it in 2017 for $28k. Im frequently offroad but have never found the frontier to be inadequate in any regard. While I'm sure these new off-road trucks are more capable, I find it difficult to justify buying such expensive machines when the older/lesser tech seems to work just fine. MPG is about my only gripe with the old frontier. These do seem like really nice trucks tho. Get ready to scratch the hell out of them if using them for their intended purpose. I mostly use mine in Nevada, Utah, Arizona, and California

@johnnyreb1475

6 ай бұрын

Have you seen, stock frontier wheelin hard at moon rocks NV video? It'll make you look at that frontier in a whole new light.

@philh1826

6 ай бұрын

@@johnnyreb1475 lol ive ridden it hard at times and definitely have some offroad scratches and wear and tear but dammmmnnn. Itd need to be shtf for me to do that to my frontier lol

@thecount1001

6 ай бұрын

the modern idea of 'off roading' seems to require dual lockers, massive tires and lift, full heavy duty sliders and armor. and mostly i think it's about talking points and bragging rights.

Sounds like I'm keeping for the foreseeable future my 2013 Tacoma 4x4 single cab. It goes slow but goes anywhere...

When the TRD Pre Runner comes out, can you do a 2WD Shoot Out?!? Get Canyon Elevation with Auto Locker (since will probably be closer in price than a Colorado WT) and what ever 2WD Ranger will be comparable.

Roman butchered the discussion over the Mojave. Yes there are some appearance differences between the Mojave and the Rubicon and other trims but there are many substantive differences as well. The Mojave has iron knuckles instead of aluminum knuckles on the other trims. The truck frame is reinforced in multiple areas. These changes are done so it can handle high speed off-roading and mild jumps. In addition it has remote reservoir shocks in front and piggyback shocks in back. This is the most advanced shock system of any Gladiator trim including the Rubicon. It also has the most ground clearance from the factory of any other Gladiator trim as it sits taller. Additional differences, unlike the Rubicon it does not have a front locker or a disconnecting front sway bar. It does have a rear locker and Dana 44 axles.

@stephenteerling7373

7 ай бұрын

totally agree. He phoned it in on that one. They didn't know what they were talking about.

@doublebackagain4311

7 ай бұрын

Won't find much love for the Gladiator from TFL, for the most part.

@TheZR2Kid

7 ай бұрын

Wow! Why did they not mention that? That makes a BIG difference which Roman said it’s a small difference. Thanks for the info.

@TheZR2Kid

7 ай бұрын

@@doublebackagain4311Ya, it seems everyone is biased at TFL except for maybe Andre. They seem to hate on the Gladiator and Colorado.

@rorycompton8138

5 ай бұрын

They’ve said how great the Gladiator was a million times. It’s just dated now and doesn’t get as many clicks. I’m hoping the Ford comes out with a Bronco pick up. It would be great to go topless with some updated tech and something with a bit more power than the pentastar.

Mojave is more than a sticker package. Bypass shocks Cast iron knuckles Hydraulic bump stops (unique to Mojave) Sportier steering wheel and seats. Offset wheels Can run rear locker in 4 hi (I’m not sure if that’s a thing on all gladiator’s with rubicon/mojave).

18:06 🤣 Gotta get that cruise control Andre 😊

i paid right around 50k for my canyon at4 and i dont regret it at all. Love everything about the truck and has been reliable with absolutely no issues for 8000 miles. It may not be the best value, but buy what you can afford and what you like is my motto.

@desert4seat

6 ай бұрын

You actually paid $50k for a Canyon?

I love that you busted Andre's balls over the cruise control. That'll never get old with me. 3 truck purchases from now, I'll be asking Andre if it has cruise control. 🤣

This is confirming my decision to pursue a Ranger FX4 with the 2.7 Ecoboost. I'd love the Raptor, but I need the bigger towing more than I need the super off-road capability. Thanks for the help. Here's hoping a front locker becomes available as an add-on. Perhaps that could be part of a new Tremor package.

Roman you sayOMG 60k for a midsize. Gladiator far out 66k starting, with a soft top. A wrangler X IS 70K. Everything is priced insane !!!its terrible

I want to see you take one of the PreRunner Toyota models on your off-road course. I know it isn't going to go through any of the mud obstacles, but I would like to see how it performs on the other obstacles.

Glad Andre is thinking getting the Ranger

Canyon Denali with Billstein 6112 kit FTW

Currently in my daily 1987 4runner turbo sr5, all factory, 80 mi from 158k 😎🤘 It's a rare classic but I cant resist, over 30k miles this year

@dhn.

7 ай бұрын

She's a keeper. Happy new year.

I dont go off road, so I am planning on getting the 2024 Honda Ridgeline Black Edition. Did a test drive and it drives really nice and the seats are the best in the midsize segment.

Happy new year

My Jeep gladiator does everything and more. I cross shopped everything. Jeep just did it better

Bring on the competition!!!

People are really claiming the Tacoma is reliable... Guys it's a different truck than the ones before it. It's not even out yet. Toyota brains.

Good information dude

Appreciate the extra work to put in the title slides and video/photos. It adds a lot as the guys are talking! 🙌🏼

You all should add some bloopers in the end. I think they make it more entertaining, just a suggestion. Great job guys with all the information you all put out on all your videos.

Is it just me or the Toyota and the GMC/ Chevy look a lot alike?

I think there are some many varieties of trucks ranging from hardcore off-roaders to city pavement vehicles that its not always a fair comparison. I think both GMC/Chevy and Ford will be able to provide more value for the money and cut into the Tacoma market share. The Tacos are cool, but come at a price and the reality is that they are 4 cylinder turbos now just like everyone else.

2024 Gladiator Willys now has rear lockers for better off-road performance for less than a Rubicon. I didn't see that on older Willys.

$56K for a Ford mini-truck @ 7%+APR. I have a feeling they won't sell too many....

@Henry_Aguirre214

7 ай бұрын

You’d be surprise. People got money. Deep pockets.

@chucklesthefireguy5356

7 ай бұрын

Auto industry is a house of cards, nobody is buying. RV, Boats, ATV as well... deals to be had very soon. @@Henry_Aguirre214

@icepick1514

6 ай бұрын

​@@Henry_Aguirre214more money than sense.

I really don't think there is a way to claim any of these are better than another. I think it depends too much on what you want to do with it. Dirt roads on weekends with big kids? The Honda is a great choice with the roomy back seat and no 4L. Price conscious? Nissan is looks good. Jeep is more of a lifestyle choice; more offroad than onroad. GM, Ford or Toyota? Pick your poison, hard to argue for or against any of those depending on what you want to do with it. And if people wanna spend $60k on these fancy editions? Go for it, because all that tech filters down to the cheaper ones every generation. Or if it sucks, disappears.

@garys2157

7 ай бұрын

Good assessment.

The key asset on the ZR22 is the front & rear locking diff. Only the gladiator has that.

Will probably be downsizing from a tundra to a Tacoma but I’m waiting for the hybrid power train to come later in the year. Looking forward to a smaller truck for daily driving but wondering if it will work as hard as the tundra.

@philipsoucie3015

7 ай бұрын

I have both and my tundra is more comfortable, bigger and more spacious, pulls more and is only 3 mpg difference. If it wasn't for the manual trans in my tacoma I would only have the tundra.

2024 Nissan Frontier for me. I got an SV because off-roading isn't something I'm going to do enough to warrant the extra $3-4k.

The TRD Off-road and the TRD Sport Tacoma are also available with the Hybrid Max engine.

Love my 24 Pro 4x.

@ 20:15 and cruise control Andre! Standard!

Does Toyota have software like ford's Forscan so you can modify the door chimes, start/stop, light settings etc.?

Ready to see the new ranger tested

$50K + midsize truck!!? as someone who travels all over the country, including Alaska for work, the proof of GM and Ford's failures are that you see almost no Colorado high-performance pick ups or Rangers, but you can't throw a rock without hitting a Tacoma.

@Holden-McGroin

7 ай бұрын

Because they’re cheap and reliable. All depends what you’re looking for. Some people want a truck than can tow 5k lbs up hill at 75mph all day. Some would rather have the Tacoma. It’s like buying a Honda ATV over a Polaris: yeah, the Honda will last longer, but the guy on the Polaris will be done with dinner and 3 beers in by the time the guy on the Honda shows up at camp.

@BryanWicks

7 ай бұрын

I was a Nissan truck driver for all of the years I have owned trucks… until I bought my first Tacoma in 2019. Nearly 120,000 miles later and I am still pleased with its performance and reliability. Once it gets me to 300,000 miles, only then will I consider replacing it.

@scotchbrite1241

7 ай бұрын

@@Holden-McGroinI tow 5k-6k going 70-75 mph with my taco! . S4 with ect button on, no problem. OTT with 33’s with some armor! Those that know… know!

We had a 2024 chevy silverado 2500hd with ko3s from the factory come it the shop couple months ago.

The Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro looks the best overall. The Ford RAPTOR is probably the best performance overall. The Chevrolet Bison is right there, but it is too expensive, and its buggy GM electronics hinder its value. The R1T is still the only EV offering, and it's only one software OTA away from being a monster off-roader. Probably the most intelligent purchase is the Nissan Frontier Pro4X. That truck will likely last forever, offering the best long-term reliability.

I’m really hoping the Gladiator gets 360 cameras, vented seats, lane centering, and maybe some better trailering technology like the camera integration in the Tacoma. A stronger engine or a 10 speed trans would be great too. Unless Ford decides to make a Bronco pick up.

Diesel ZR2 Colorado is still a great contender against these newer gen trucks (even the new ZR2).

As a Tacoma owner and previous frontier owner, I still think a good older Nissan Frontier with the 4.0 v6 and optional 6 speed manual it’s a solid choice for off-roading, it will last over 300,000 miles you can get them cheap and and it’s way cooler as its not a cookie cutter Tacoma.

@cavedog1279

7 ай бұрын

Being less common does not make something cooler. The E-stang is a good example of this.

I would rather have two trucks for $35k than one truck for $70k no matter how luxurious the truck is or how short life is and how much YOLO is going on. 😃 I always prefer a truck that I can crash/break and just not care because I have the funds to buy another one without financial stress. I can do that with a $35k truck (ie a Frontier SV King cab under MSRP) vs a $70k (with markup) Tacoma Trail Hunter.

@mtfishingwizard

7 ай бұрын

Price isn't released yet and comparing a top trim tacoma to a near base model nissan in price is stupid.

@is6566

7 ай бұрын

Stupid or not I stand by what I said above. 😃 Also, you don’t have to be a brain surgeon or rocket scientist to figure out that a Trail Hunter’s practical price with dealer add ons (including markup, tint, ceramic coating, hood protector film, etc) will be $70k. The Limited is $54k MSRP. The hybrid power train will add about $2-$3k (based on Tundra experience) to the price. The TRD Pro will add at least $3-$5k to that MSRP. I think the Trail Hunter will be more based on my experience of buying ARB bumpers and OME shocks. They aren’t exactly inexpensive. The TH trim will be as rare as white ravens. That alone will cause massive markups and add ons. Based on the experience with Tundra hybrid pricing the hybrid Limited will be at least $56k MSRP, probably more (and yes I adjusted the Tundra hybrid price down because the Tacoma will have smaller battery and motor). A Pro Trim will add at least $5k so it’s about $61k MSRP. Trail Hunter will be above that around $65k. Markups will be $5-$10k on these trims for a long time. None of these numbers are from thin air but looking at the various trim level pricing of the Tundra and adjusting for a slightly smaller and less expensive truck and also keeping the competition pricing Bison/AEV in mind. It’s a guess but an educated guess based on data points and observed behavior of Toyota dealers.

@is6566

7 ай бұрын

Also, I am NOT COMPARING base model Nissan to top trim Tacoma. I just state that my preference is to own TWO less expensive trucks vs ONE expensive truck. Irrespective of trim.

@mtfishingwizard

7 ай бұрын

@is6566 you sound butt hurt for getting called out. Sorry, I made you 😢 😭.

@is6566

7 ай бұрын

@mtfishing… We all understand that you are a troll. And that’s fine. We all need a hobby. 😃

I like the nissian my friend has one and loves his. Im thinking of getting 1

NEVER WOULD I THOUGHT A TOYOTA (OUTSIDE THE TOP END LAND CRUISER AND MAYBE TUNDRA) LET ALONE A TACOMA WOULD COST $59-69K. HOW DID THEY GO FROM 25-45K AND JUMP UP TO $70K SEEMINGLY OVERNIGHT. COVID IS OVER, BUT THE SHYT PRICING IS HERE TO STAY UNLESS PEOPLE DEMAND CHANGE.

@TheOtherPlayer

7 ай бұрын

It's because the high end has become more catered to the people who bolted on 10k of parts right after buying. Base tacoma prices went up 3k from the third gen

@icepick1514

6 ай бұрын

And people are willing to overpay as well. It's a seller's market.

paid $44,000cDN (33,000USD) for a brand new, ordered in 2022 SR5 4x4, 6’ bed. Slapped some decent all weather all terrains on it. Goes places most TRD pro’s won’t.

I found it interesting that Andre mentioned that the Frontier had a lack of ground clearance, yet the Trail Boss which comes with a factory 2" lift has the same ground clearance.. I have a 3rd gen frontier, and have a 3" lift and 33's and I have 12"+ of measured clearance at my front skid plate. Pretty decent. I think the only competitor for value is the ZR2 depending on what you want/plan to do. At 52k loaded without the bison/boss packages, you are getting tech loaded/luxurious dual locked, 3" lift and 33s, and wheel travel numbers that rivals bolt on long travel factory which combined would cost 10-15k minimum to add to frontiers/tacomas etc. Best value on paper in my opinion, but they still have so many reliability issues to work out. My 2 cents.

I really like my 2023 Frontier Pro 4x

Does Roman own a comb?…. 😂 I love the videos guys. That Ranger with a Turbo V-6 will turn around Ranger sales in America! Rangers in Asia sell fine….but diesel’s mostly. I still like the Nissan Frontier a lot. SL suits my needs more than off road. Pro 4X is nice too. Ultimately, I’m a RAM full size guy. Once you own one it’s kinda hard to change.

Jeep looks dope 😎😎

Thinking about downsizing from a full size truck….but the mpg and price aren’t that much of a difference to the amount of space I’d be giving up…..so who knows….🤷🏻‍♂️

@Steven-xj2rf

6 ай бұрын

Yeah you have to want the smaller truck. I wanted smaller for putting it in my garage. Most of my neighbors have to park their full sizes outside. I know a full size would fit but it is just that much tighter fit.

Can't wait for the Ram Dakota

The best video produced by TFL! That's where we are at my friends... majority of us! Mid size category... which is mind blowing! Tacoma TRD and Ford Raptor wins here... but Frontier and Colorado and Canyon and for some cases Ridgeline is a must have trucks... love this style! Please continue. Thank you.Will come back.

should change the title to the best small truck for millionaires based on the tacoma prices.

Jeep needs to put the 392 in the Gladiator and 17's with 35's and option of 37's.

Glad that I will buy a fully loaded 2024 Honda Ridgeline because the Mitsubishi Triton is here.

I have a frontier, and I think it’s hilarious how many fronty folks are in the comments giving the ol’girl the thumbs up. If your favorite ice cream is vanilla, go for the frontier. If you like a little bit of spice I would go with a different truck. The frontier is a dinosaur, no joke it feels the same as something from 1998, it has a makeover and a better motor sure, but it’s the same

Frontier, Colorado, canyon, Tacoma.. all better looking than previous generations. And then y he designers at ford got together and said “how do we make the new ranger uglier than the last model?” And thus, we have the new ranger!

Turbo on any truck sucks for longevity. Naturally aspirated only without turbos.

When is Ford going to let yall review the Ranger Raptor? I ordered mine in May 2023, and can't wait to get it to do some overland camping. I can't wait for a F150 Raptor VS Bronco Raptor VS Ranger Raptor video from yall.

It’s important to mention right now you can get 15-20% off MSRP on gladiators. I just bought a low mileage 2022 rubicon diesel for 44k. You can get brand new 23 Rubis for 48k. The only trucks comparable to that performance are the raptor and Bison. Even still no way I’ll off-road an IFS over a Dana 44.

@icepick1514

6 ай бұрын

But then you're stuck with a jeep. Notorious pieces of shit.

Jeep should’ve put 33s on the 24 Gladiator Willys. That would be a lot of ppls top option

Nice Swatch Earth watch!

With the 2 door Bronco becoming more and more of a Unicorn, I keep getting offers from local dealerships. If the offer is right I may go ahead and do it for Ranger Raptor.

@shiftymcgee9359

7 ай бұрын

I have a 2 door V6 Black Diamond. Are dealers looking to buy your 2 door or you want a 2 door Bronco?

I like the new midsize GM trucks but they are going to have to work out all the electronic gremlins and prove the 8 speed will now last before I'd consider it.

@stanguay169

7 ай бұрын

Tons of electronic gremlins... I have a Canyon AT4 in the shop for 2 months now for a new computer...

@joew6277

7 ай бұрын

@@stanguay169what were the issues? I have a canyon at4 as well but only around 800 miles

@stanguay169

7 ай бұрын

@@joew6277 All screens off, infotainment, dash and headsup display, all non working.

You should do the same type of show about the full size trucks.

😱 didn’t see that coming…

Just bought a loaded Pro4X yesterday…very nice mid size AFFORDABLE rig. Reliability and capability for what I intend to use it for are key for me. Rock crawling…no way Jose’. Will it tow my bass boat and haul 4X8 sheet goods? You bet!

@nathanrobertson3349

6 ай бұрын

How much did it run you after tax? Around 55k? Thanks

@kenpettis3011

6 ай бұрын

@@nathanrobertson3349 $44k OTD after a $6k trade allowance. Just got back from bombing around in the snow…SWEET!

One thing to remember, if its an issue for you, only two trucks will have naturally aspirated V6 engines, Jeep Gladiator and Nissan Frontier. The rest of the trucks will come with only turbo charged options.

@donnycraft869

6 ай бұрын

Ridgeline

How do you separate small, medium and full size trucks, what is the criteria to differentiate them. It looks to me that you are mixing a lot of medium size trucks in this small truck scenario which is not really fair It's like having a V6 drag race but you throw in a couple of V8's

I love my 2024 pro 4x

You never answered which is best. Still enjoy your work, thanks!

I think the Mojave Gladiator is the best overlanding trim for the Gladiator. You get the rear locker and the big FOX suspension to soak up loooong hard roads. For a turnkey overlanding truck.. Mojave makes a lot of sense.

@KTMcaptain

7 ай бұрын

Except that’s not how overlanding is… front locker, better articulation, and better gearing for the extra weight are far more important.

@benoliver2826

7 ай бұрын

I went with a diesel rubicon, I feel it’s the best package with a small lift and 37s

@doublebackagain4311

7 ай бұрын

@@benoliver2826 Yup 👍

@ryanmartinage

7 ай бұрын

I disagree. If you actually put miles on remote roads versus climbing up a trail, Mojave > Rubicon. The extra low gearing is great for crawling but not so much for going distance in 4L. I feel like there's a pretty large divide between the two purposes.

@benoliver2826

7 ай бұрын

@@ryanmartinage you wouldn’t go long distance in 4L anyway, you would use 4H

I love how you guys always act like the Trail Boss is a higher trim level than the Z71.

It's weird that no manufacturer other than GM will put 35" tires on a midsize truck...

2024 Colorado WT 4x4 with advance trailering includes rear locker. $35,000…. That’s all I’m buying next year