Ultimate Radiator Guide - All about Rads!
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There are so many radiators on the market which can make it very difficult to choose the right radiator for your build! So today we take a look at the differences between radiators and what all the specs mean.
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I went into a wrong channel looking to know about car radiators but I left impressed and enlightened, reminds me why suzuki bikes abandoned the SACs (suzuki advanced air oil cooled )system and went into liquid cooling for their bikes hehe..
@thavrisco1632
7 жыл бұрын
fidel catsro Car radiators are super boring.
@fidelcatsro6948
7 жыл бұрын
:)
@africanhistory
4 жыл бұрын
love the name, love the flag
Watching Jay 6 years later is kinda crazy and he even had grey hair back then 🤣
My first custom build involved a custom loop. Jay's videos helped convince me to make the jump. I'm running an XSPC 240mm kit with a pump/res combo. Soon, I will add a 120mm rad for extra cooling. I'm also looking to do custom sleeving and possibly sell my two R9 270Xs and get the new Fury X replacement, when it is released. I will probably add it to the custom loop with an EKWB. Thanks, Jay, for the videos.
I love how you let us engage with you! I’ve learned a lot from you in the years. I’m making a build with overkill cooling with 4 480mm rads.
@prashanthb6521
3 жыл бұрын
I am going to use a truck radiator.😎
I have some really thick radiators in my rig, had to get a larger extended top just to fit them :P
@UnboxedCubers
10 жыл бұрын
you've got the black ice rads right?
@MRgamer016
7 жыл бұрын
you also have those big tvs lol everything you own is huge
Great vid. Thanx. I'm new to liquid cooling and have always shied away from it because of that. So I decided to go with an all in 1 solution for my first time with a H100i. I'm about to use it in my new build which I will hopefully get around to building tonight or tommarrow.
i love the cooler master case in the background. my favorite case of all
Jay, you just answered all my questions in a 8 minute video. Thank you.
Hey Jay, thanks for the video, as always with all your water cooling video's very helpful
I'm just starting to learn about custom computer design so by all means do whatever mods you like, I will just soak it all in. I love what you have done so far and would really love more videos like this one that explain the concept behind the hardware. In the eighties I built airplanes for a living and I think I could use a lot of that experience in building PCs... please keep it up!
I'm researching how to size a radiator for a car and your video helped! Thank youuu
loving the info and teaching. I cant wait for my custom Thermaltake p3 to take off!!
When I was running a CPU only loop, I used a single Alphacool XT45 420 for my 4930K @ 4.5GHz. Even with Prime95 the temp topped out at 70C, and gaming never exceeded 60C. Used Koolance 380i CPU block. Recently expanded the loop to include 2x Gigabyte 970s, so tossed in another Alphacool UT60 360. Just finished plumbing literally 12 hours ago so still leak testing, but can't wait to fire up the thing and see what kinda temps I get.
i love it you show more then any other video i seened about water cooling.
Hey Jay, thanks for the informative vids, keep them coming, its greatly appreciated. I haven't made the jump to watercooling as of yet; so I can't say much about that. But I'd love to see what your vision is, with how a watercooling is suppose to look like in the Cooler Master HAF Stacker. I think you should definitely mod it to your liking.
In regard to the stacker, Id say go for it. I enjoy seeing you have fun.
I personally use one EK-Waterblocks EK-XLC Predator 240 for my CPU and one 360 radiator custom loop for my GPU they both guide good and do the job well, thanks to Jay and his videos i finally had the confidence to do it and it`s been great time having water cooling and modifying my pc :)
Yes we want the stacker mod and I have a Cooler Master Nepton 240 M.
Excellent video Jay amen. I really enjoyed this! Always learning from cross industry applications! Thanks for sharing, James, Rescue Kitty😺 & Snowvan!
Can definitely see the difference in your videos and how they grow from this video to your more recent videos
I'm using an XSPC kit which came with a 240mm Rad at 30mm thick, and that's cooling my 8150 at 4.2GHz and 6970, does a very good job with it. I'm running corsair sp fans at about 30% power too
Jay!! great video man!! very informative, and I learned a few tips! thanks again man. right now, I haven't hooked up my PC with any liquid cooling upgrades. I do, however, have an upgraded COOL-MASTER heatsink with dual fans. much better than OEM. and yes, MOD the stacker!!!
YES mod the stacker! I have one too and I really need a tutorial to see what I can do to fit in bigger rads!
Love this guy!! Sorry if I don't "like" every video I watch, because I watch a lot of them!! Thank you so much for all of the free advice!!! You know your shit sir.
Extremely informative. Great video Jay!
No liquid right now but planning next build and I think it will be liquid cooled. Considering the big stacker case so I can put the cooling and power supplies in the bottom and a NAS farm in the top. This will keep all of that type of gear in one place instead of trying to find homes for it else where. Thinking of running three video cards so lots of cooling to keep it all running stable and fast. The other side of this for me it that I will be building a system for my wife as well, it will be the same less the NAS farm. Thanks for the great video.
Thanks for all the content you share, I left a tweet about custom water cooling and need help. It's my first time taking the dive and I'd like to begin with a 1x240mm radiator setup then eventually two when I purchase a video card. I'm using an NCase M1 case, would like to use hard tubing.
It's up to you Jay your the one that has to look at it everyday
yes. mod it. no hesitation at all on that reply. also if you can, make vlogs of the modding process jay. would be a joy to watch you put your creativity to work.
Watching this video made my laugh. How far you have come, sir.
I'm using 1200mm radiator capacity in my custom NZXT Switch 810: -XSPC EX480 -XSPC RX360 -XSPC EX240 -XSPC EX120 Neptune 2.0 - NZXT Switch 810 Build Log Part 6 - Completion My Corsair fans all run at 7V and I get an average of 47C on my 3770K @ 4.6GHz and 51C max on my 680 SLI @ 1215core/7204mem. I suggest that if modding is what you like to do and there is space for it in the case, why not. My Dwood pedestal under my 810 case was custom made for 420 rads and I modded it to shove a 480 down there, for example. Thanks for this very useful video Jay. I hope to see this Stacker build soon!!
Crazy how long ago this video was made and how much his content has advanced
What I did learn was that radiators perform better than I thought even without any fans. Pretty cool. Glad you do these kinds of videos. I know it wash t super long or in depth but a couple things I think were worth noting is that the thicker radiators only perform better at higher fan speeds and they actually perform notably worse at low fan speeds. At around 600 RPM or less, a 30mm rad performs better than a 45, 60, or 80mm (especially if you go apples to apples and compare only Alphacool who offers all four sizes) and the 80mm performs the worst at that speed. If I remember correctly, you have to get up above 800-1000rpm before the 60mm thick rad starts to perform better and the 80mm rad doesn't perform better at all until up above 1200 RPM, IIRC, which is pretty fast and loud. The tests I've seen actually never show the 45mm performing better, it just jumps from 30mm being best at low-mid speeds to 60mm being best up in the higher speed range. I'm guessing there's a pretty narrow window around 700 RPM where 45 performs best. My big full tower build has a 280 60mm and 420 45mm and I went with medium and thick rads in that because like a lot of other first time builders, I though thicker would perform better, except I like to run very quiet fans (whole point of water cooling to me) so in my new smaller Caselabs build, I've gone with all 30mm thick rads.
@draggboy
10 жыл бұрын
And another thing worth noting is that the width (i.e. when going from 120mm wide rads to 140mm rads) actually does make a good difference. 140 fans usually have less dead space on the radiator, for one thing. But the main thing is that a lot of people have room to fit a wider 140 rad but might not being above to fit a longer, but going with the wider rad can increase the cooling capacity enough to make up the difference versus a narrower 120mm wide rad that is one fan longer than a given 140mm wide rad. For example a triple 140 rad actually has slightly more cooling capacity than a quad 120 and a dual 140 has almost as much cooling capacity as a triple 120. In my full tower build I went with all 140 wide rads so they're only a triple and a dual 140 yet they're equivalent approximately to a quad + triple 120 setup. In my new Caselabs build I'm going for smaller form factor so space is an issue, so I went with two dual rads (one being a 120 and one being a 140), but since one is a dual 140, it's almost like having a triple 120 while it's a good bit shorter than a triple.
I also thought about doing the same thing with the stacker back when I was planning my new build but in the end I went with the 900D because I really liked all the space inside of it and since I wanted to put a double loop in mine I wanted to make sure I had the extra space. I love the alphacool rads but I ended up going the XSPC rads because they had them in white in all the sizes I wanted. Alphacool seems to only offer the white rad in a 360. I ended up going with a 480 and 360 rad in the bottom with a 360 rad also in the top all 40mm thick. Complete overkill but this system is all about overkill :) I just hope the XSPC rads are as good as the price tag that was attached to them. They were more than the AC rads
Jay, Nice video man I think you should take the top off of the stacker and put it on the bottom (If it can be done) and use put one rad on the top and another on the front and use normal acrylic tubing/bent acrylic with different degree compression fittings or do the opposite and keep the top on it and put the rads in there and run the same set up.
Thanks for the video, it helped a ton
Jay, Thx for all your videos.. I am an oldschool water cooler guy (1999) from back in the days of Danger Den being one of the few companies doing it then and also using Enhiem pond pumps 120V. I have done 3 WC setups in my time .. the last being 8 years ago. Just ordered 700$ worth of WC parts to get me started on my WC setup. Wish me luck.. wish you were here to help! lol I ran out of funds and plan on adding my GTX 980ti into the loop a little later. I'm making sure to setup a drain area so making changes should be easier. My biggest issue now is flushing my new rads without going out and buying pond pumps etc to do it.. budget is spent!
@badlilstang
8 жыл бұрын
EKWB XRES 140 REVO D5 PWM Pump/Res combo Sleeved + mounting bracket EK Supremacy EVO Nickel Water block for CPU Black Ice Nemesis WHITE 280GTX Radiator (Noctua fans already in case) Black Ice Nemesis WHITE 240GTX Radiator (not sure on fans yet) Primochill PrimoFlex Advanced LRT White tubing 10ft 3/8 ID 5/8 OD XSPC 3/8ID - 5/8 OD black chrome compression fittings (most cost friendly good fittings I could find) Bitspower 90 Degree rotary adapters in sparkle black to match XSPC fittings Mayhem Silver Kill coil Mayhem Pastel Coolant 1 litre (how much shoud I need?) XSPC T fitting to build drain area Bitspower Valve for drain area Small plastic funnel
HI Jay! Thank you for this vid! Your rig look's amazing and the performance too! I've never water cooled before, except for an AIO. But I'm looking to do so for my next rig, after I get all the parts, : ). (half way there with the total cost) I'll probably go with an H100i at first just so I can get any kinks worked out. But after I have a chance I'll go all out! Right now I just can't make up my mind on a case. I'd love to chose a Ethoo Primo case but the blue led's just won't work with my color scheme. So for me that leaves either a 750D or 900D. Right now I'm looking to have a parts list of : I-7 4770k, 16gb DDR3 2400 ram, Maximus VI Hero, Samsung 840 Evo 120gb, WD black 1TB HDD, H100i and corsair command link w/ cooling kit, along w/ a mix of 120 and 140 fans ( I already have all of this listed so far ), Case???, an RM 750 w/ cable kit (red), Nzxt pcb for expanding my usb 2.0 connections, then of course the GTX 780 ti. So I'm looking forward to any video's of cooling in the future. That way I can maybe pick up on anything I could use. Keep up the great work!
I would love to see something like that in the Stacker! Definitely go for it Jay ;)
h100i on fx 8350 OC the turbo clock to 4.8ghz gives me that extra juice I need in skyrim with all my mods and with dolphin and PCXS2
These older videos are just great man , thanks old Jay or should I say younger Jay ?
Still the most useful video about watercooling in 2019.
Would love to see that build.
My custom loop setup holds 2 360mm rads with a thickness of 3,8cm and a 150ml reservoir. I use 12 / 16 mm acryl tubing. Im a bit late to the Party but i just build my first custom loop 5 days ago ^^.
Hay Jay, love your channel, keep up the good work. Just wanted to point out that COPPER ABSOLUTELY does give you better temps! Better than any other metal other than silver. Copper is a fantastic heat conductor. Google it, there are plenty of graphs comparing different metals and their heat dissipating properties. This is important info for people choosing pc watercooling components.
I use the ID-cooling hunter duet one which is an AIO Water cooling loop for your CPU and GPU.
I like the thicker rads, but I haven't used the 80mm yet. I still have good cooling from old danger den rads on my older system, a QX based rig. They take a ton of heat from a QX kentsville and SLI'd 8800 GTX SC's. 480mm of rad, MCP655 , & a long loop. I still run it from time to time & love the PC. It's always sad to see a water cooling component manufacturer close its doors. Now, I've got the i7-4770k, but I haven't decided on what I want to do for the case. I like that stacker 9XX with the secondary enclosure for the liquid loop or itx capabilities. I do want to build up a case for the build, but the time to weld what I want will take a while... not to mention the sheet metal break & tapping the threads. Just a lot of work. You're definitely headed in the right direction with the channel. Any Titan, Black Editions headed out your way? Very curious to see these daunting GPUs! Wonder if they've added any OpenCL enhancements to benefit those GPU crypto clowns. I hope not, FPGA is going to rip the market to shreds & if Nvidia has a viable GPU for mining... the used market will be crap as no one other than a miner will buy a burned out junker. AMD should prepare for the value drop due to highly overclocked & already on the thermal fringe of silicon degradation in r9 GPUs.
Using 900d as well, 2 x black ice 480 SR1, 1 x black ice 240 SR1. I really enjoy your videos, please make more. Mini itx water cooling :D
If your gonna use the Stacker please do a full video of you making it,mi think that would be pretty amazing
One AIO here, the H60 for my CPU. A simple, small 120mm rad. Got it because the airflow in my case is still great, but I wanted to squeeze just a little more juice out of my CPU, which I couldn't with aircooling.
I think you should totally do what you want man honestly make it look pretty dude! I currently am looking into doing my first build ever with custom water cooling I am probably going to have a ek cool stream PE 360 to cool my i6700k and my Asus GeForce force gtx 1070 8gb dual series, but I'm not sure if it will be good enough what do you think should I toss in another radiator?
jay actually helped me in deciding my rig a little. Intel i7-4770k, ASUS z-87 sabertooth, G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 16GB DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600. 2 gtx 770's sli, 240 ssd and 1 tb sshd, CORSAIR HX1050 power, all tucked away in a NZXT Phantom 820. been running it for a day with the stock cpu cooler, and ya not working. was hoping it could last long enuf to get a custom loop but nope.... just went and got a CORSAIR H100i so it should be all golden for a while till i figure out if i want to still do a loop
I am currently looking at building my first rig, finally! I bought a case relatively cheap compared to current ones but it has a few draw backs. The front fans are 2 80mm, with 2 rear 80mm, 1 top 80mm, and 2 side 80mm that swing out. I would love to liquid cool this thing. My question is where should I install my radiator(s)? One in the back, one in the front, one in the top, some combo of them?
regarding the stacker, if you have the money, have time and want to sure would be fun to see what you do with it. I'm running swftech h220 (got lucky in that i bought it in the US before the whole shenanigans happened with swiftech), and i was thinking about adding another radiator in addition to the 240 that it comes with, but it would only really be cosmetic, its already quiet as it is.
I've just got an h110i from corsair. I was trying to stay all air because I didn't trust water in my system, but I really wasn't liking the temps and its hard to keep it quiet and clean with 13 fans running 24/7, so I had to just get over it... I mounted the radiator in the front of my case so at least 50/50 shot that any failure would be away from all components. I do plan on upgrading the fans, the ones that came with it are way too loud compared to my case fans.
Completed my first ever watercooling project not long ago got a 3570k running at 4.7ghz being cooled by 2x EX240 rads with low rpm fans in an aerocool ds cube. Gonna add a gtx780 at some point when I can afford the card and block.
Have a look at my water cooled build. I have been running this machine for almost 2 years and it runs like a top. I have a second build on my work bench that needs to go in for copper plating.
You should stay with the 900d. Unless the stacker is just a side project, whatever funds allow I guess.
i use a tripple radiator with 3 high CFM Fans. Also a strong pump helps. My 3930k overclocks at 4.8 no problem. I've gotten it to 5.1 but it wasnt stable.
My god this is so old it brings back memories
I have a 900D also, and am using two 45mm 480 Rads and one 45mm 240 Rad, for my cooling.
One EK Quantum P480mm Rad cooling my Ryzen 7800X3D and my Red Devil 7900 xtx. Two temp sensors using commander core XT. GPU stock air cooled, idle temps 40ish, when I put the EK Quantum GPU block, temps dropped by 25c. One rad seems to be doing a very good job cooling the CPU & the GPU.
Yes for a pimp out stacker (paint, etc) Unfortunately i'm on Air, (8350/r9 280x/ssd's/ Corsair 200r) but in a near future i will swap my case for a corsair 540 air and my next build will be water cooled for sure. thanks for the Great vidz / guide / info
Just seeing that case is looking into the past lol! It reminds me of my 1st PC build!
Mod the stacker to fit dual 480's and use acrylic tubing. It will look awesome
I think that if you are interested the mod, then go for it! I always find modding to be fun and even better when you get cool results :)
Jay i have a 4770k oc to 4,7 and a gtx 770 and am planing to do my first watercooling build is an alphacool 360 30 mm and an alphacool 360 60 mm enough for some heavy oc and will be enough if i deside to add another gtx 770 in the future
interesting stuff, I m running amd 8320 oc 4.2 ghz with a cooler master hyper 212 plus + quick silver 5 Goo, with amd cool & quiet on my temps are 18c idle 28c full load, but I really want to try liquid cooling one day
LOL so funny when he says "if you hated it you also know where you can stick it" made me laugh so much
@JayzTwoCents. Didn't you have a video testing cooling temps in different size rads?
I'm using Thermaltake Dual Pacific RL480 120mm 8 total fans two side by side on top and on each sides along with one front mount Pacific 200mm and 140mm fan RL 360. I never have to turn CPU off and average temps 17-21c. Pretty over kill but so good.
You got tha skills man!
I have one monsta 240 and planning on rebuild my case to fit another one. Running high oc 3770k and a gtx 780. It works great but still want lower temps. Water temp havent been over 40c yet.
J,If you get the opportunity to review and build in the anidees ai-crystal atx mid tower case, please do. I just purchased the case and I'd love to see what you would be able to do with it. Love the info you put out
Jay is it possible/practical to have enough radiation surface area to cool the system passively (no fans) for a quite system?
it will be nice if you can dona video on cases....coz after spending a lot of cash on watercooling parts I realised that i can't install a fan with the radiater because there was no space so if you can do this it will be nice
Hey Jay. Love the channel. I do have a question and hope you'll find time to respond. I know your rule of thumb when it comes to the size of rads. 240mm per component. I'm planning to upgrade my pc to the i9 9900k and 2080 ti. I do own a TFC 360 monster rad and it does a great job on my oc'ed i7/ 6gb EVGA TINAN. Is the rad up to it with the new set up which I'm obviously planning to OC for best gaming experience or should I add another 360 just to be sure?
Do it! Maybe even live stream it, or make a series of it.
I have one closed loop radiator from Corsair on my CPU. But I would encourage you to mod the case you like and do it all the way.
It's 2020, this Jay is way different than the current one.
When i had 240 rad from alphacool which was 30 thick and replaced it with ek xtx 240 rad, it made my temp from 36-38 c to 29-31 degrees. i run i7-4770k at 4.6ghz
When you use water cooling, should the fans be on the radiator: A: Outside pushing air in to the case B: Outside pulling the air from the case C: Inside pushing air out from the case D: Inside pulling air in to the case? Thank you in advance!
Yes, yes, yes and yes again mod the stacker! I want to see it for my self and maybe do it in the future myself! (Distant... future)
Great video and keep the good work going, and btw MOD :)
I have 1 CM Seidon 120V. For my mid tower it's enough for my modest 4Ghz OC on my 4670k. I think you should do the stacker mod and make it the best water cooling setup you can
Ik got the 935 aswell and i love it. And im not gonna upgrade it. Im intrested what you can do with it
Can i ask for a simply question ? I using liquid cooler Corsair H110i with 280mm Radiator mount at front of the case because i don't have space to set the radiator at top , it's stuck with my mainboard. So should i take the air into the case through the radiator or pull out ? My case also have 2 slot to mount fans at top ( have dust filter ) and 1 at the back of the case ? What is the air direction of all fans . Thank you !
mod the stacker! I'm using the fractal design define XL R2 case and im aircoolingmy system right now bit if i have the monney i will absolutely switch to watercooling
im currently running a dual 120 in the top of my corsair 760, but im soon upgrading to a tripple 140 in the top and a dual 140 in the front.
I have a fx 6300 cooled by an Antec 620 v4 in a Fractal Design arc midi r2. Under full load the max temp is 47 Celsius at stock, silent as an assassin. My Asus r9 280x with an overclock to 1150 MHz is maxing out at 62 Celsius below 30% fan speed.
do it man it would be Educating and a cool project and show what you would think of the HAF Stacker 935 as a modding case and give some more ideas too the world.
I was just looking for the exact topic , and this really helped. the watercooled components in my build are going to be , 1) 4770k 2) 2 r9 290's. and since it is my first water cooling build i'm getting a xspc EX360 kit and going with another EX240 rad in the front all in a corsair 760t (or hopefully the 780t if it releases by then). I would really love to know you'r thoughts on it. thank you P.s your channel is awesome.
So I'm new to PC and am building one on Christmas, I have a liquid cooler, the Corsair Hydro Series High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler, because I have a liquid cooler in the setup do I need a radiator because I have a liquid cooler or are radiators optional with liquid coolers, or are they a need ??
im using a swiftech h220 as my entry into watercooling
I have a 480 monsta, a 480 xt 45 and a 30 mm 360 :D Jay, ditch the stacker and mod the enthoo primo
go for it Jayz & let us see
I hate how the stacker looks, but if you mod it to fit the dual 480's in and do so hard tubing, then it will look epic. :).
Going to build a system later this year, but haven't decided about what water cooling i should use
With a 30 fpi you have to use a high static fan will push lots of air but at low settings.
Jay or anyone 2 months ago I build my first pc with a 6600K and a gtx 1070 in the phanteks eclipse p400 case and now I want to watercool it. I want to go with a 360 mm radiator on the front and a 240mm at the top but I have only 30 mm at the top so I wouldnt havent space for fans. I can also go with a 120 mm at the back but I don't really like the way it looks. so waht should I do go with the 360 only or 240 but without fans or 120?