I think we may have solved the Fermi Paradox. The Aliens never got sufficient research funding to develop and build technology for interstellar travel.

@poindextertunes

Ай бұрын

😂

@krto7663

Ай бұрын

So in every planet there is an american banning abortion, praising owning guns and funding forever wars. This is why we cant have nice things

@MH-Tesla

Ай бұрын

Fermi Paradox is ludicrous. Life only comes from life. So it likely doesn't exist anywhere else in the Milky Way. We haven't seen any evidence because it's non existent until we send it there.

@roberthopkins2494

Ай бұрын

Darn politicians. Not even aliens can get away from those idiots

@samimurtomaki5534

Ай бұрын

​@@roberthopkins2494 Well ..If they are intelligent enougt to avoid nationalism and religions and use their resources accordingly with common goals, there might not be even an urge to put anythint in the orbit. It is friging expensive, and without a clash of ideologies or war for resouces why to even do that in the first place. Takes loooogn time if ever to individual wealth in fair society get so high that simply go for it just becouse ypu can, and for curiosity.

I'm actually quite pissed off. Because politicians will pay for football stadiums, private jets, their wages during shutdowns, and tax cuts that have loopholes for megacorps... and yet we cut science and research. Something big and drastic needs to change.

@hockypockies

Ай бұрын

it's really an issue on both ends of the political spectrum, sadly i hope to see more funding soon

@user-bp8vy5gy5n

Ай бұрын

Tax the corporations

@Zellgarith

Ай бұрын

Don't forget they also get tax breaks for those private jets and for their yachts

@aleksanderpopov5060

Ай бұрын

We hella need a 3rd party

@leftward_hoe

Ай бұрын

don't forget the hundreds of billions they can find for war every year. 11 billion was TOO MUCH for this?? the House just approved 90 billion foreign aid package... why can't they find another 10 for something as historically important as the first samples returned from Mars... smh

Over eight trillion dollars has been spent on lost or unwinnable wars in recent two decades. Imagine all the science that could have been done with that sort of budget.

@global.citizens

Ай бұрын

Imagine a world without dictators

@martinwebb1681

Ай бұрын

Yeah and imagine how many little scientists and future geniuses have been killed as innocent civilians in those wars/conflicts. A waste of human life, and a total waste of money. But we all know war is big business for a few so will continue regardless of cost in money and in human lives.

@jors3028

Ай бұрын

@@global.citizens You just need to police the war mongers (CIA); right now, they're running the world amuck.

@RideAcrossTheRiver

Ай бұрын

@@global.citizens Meanwhile, China issues whiffy statements about "adjusting the West in its notions of individual freedom and liberty"

@-wotiu_77

Ай бұрын

8trillion that's alot of jobs . $100b would be spent on the actual war itself ... define your $8trillion Einstein..

"First time we launched a rocket from another planet" The RM of the LEM: "am I a joke to you?" I suppose the operative word is planet.

I lost my job due to the funding cut, I was contracted to design the spin test bench fixtures for the second stage of MAVIS... tbh the project was overly complex, requiring multiple agencies/contractors, concurrent/sequential missions, and the budget ballooned.

@MarcosElMalo2

Ай бұрын

Sorry to hear you lost your job. Was this standard mission creep or were there unexpected technical challenges?

@Maevelikeschampagne

Ай бұрын

grabbing hands grab all they can -everything counts in large amounts...

@prependedprepended6606

Ай бұрын

​@@Maevelikeschampagne That's not always the answer. If you worked in technology you would understand that you need expertise in every area. And for interplanetary missions that can have nearly zero errors, a project needs experts in several areas and must test all aspects of the mission, develop custom parts and software. It takes a lot of time to ensure no requirements have been missed, reviews must be held at all stages, etc. It's not easy, cheap or fast. I'm not saying that there isn't greed involved, but *usually* that's the least of the problems. And in most cases, the greed is coming from private companies that the government has outsourced their work to.

@DESOUSAB

Ай бұрын

@@Maevelikeschampagne All for themselves, after all...

@tygical

Ай бұрын

damn, major condolences to you.

The first (and only) mission to Uranus and Neptune was launched on August 20, 1977. It's a shame that almost 47 years later, we are still waiting for the next mission to the Uranus and Neptune systems.

@rhonafenwick5643

Ай бұрын

Seriously. We've sent so many missions to Jupiter and Saturn already, with another Jovian moon mission en route right now, and even _New Horizons_ - which, incredibly, is the only probe to _ever_ have a primary mission dedicated to a body beyond Saturn - spent a good amount of time studying Jupiter during its gravity assist. I fervently believe Neptune needs to be NASA's next major target after the Titan _Dragonfly._ I know a lot of people are nuts for Uranus and its bunch of icy moons, but the thing is we've got so much data from the icy moons of Jupiter and Saturn already, with another dedicated mission en route to Jupiter right now. A Neptune orbiter would give us a two-for-one because of Triton: it's unlikely we'll ever see another mission to a Kuiper Belt dwarf planet along _New Horizons_ lines, and Triton gives us a unique second chance to study a KBO up close and do valuable comparative studies between it and Pluto, which _New Horizons_ successfully showed is way more geologically interesting than had been believed.

@arc4705

Ай бұрын

this x1,000,000

@personzorz

Ай бұрын

They are all but impossible to reach on reasonable time scales

@arc4705

Ай бұрын

@@personzorz Many astronomical projects are multi-generational. Not a good enough excuse

@Shannaura

Ай бұрын

Congress opted for a much closer anus to visit...

If I worked for NASA and my job or my coworkers jobs got cut from this I would genuinely be rioting. We will never progress as a species ironically because our own leaders are too greedy to share with the people who actually want to make a difference. You just DON'T cut research. It's like a universal law. We absolutely need to be funding research as much as we can right now because we are stuck on this rock with no way out. I'm dead serious everyone that understands the importance of research needs to come together and make these politicians life hell until they change their mind. Funny how the people who make these decisions aren't even elected, they're just chosen by their predecessors so that they can maintain the status quo

@robertnu3428

Ай бұрын

Very ironic and borderline idiotic when you realise majority of congress and blood sucking politicians are making money through schemes like insider trading but wont hesistate to cut funds elsewhere to line their own greedy little pockets. Prolly the most detrimental and parasitic thing our planet has produced is politicians

@robertnu3428

Ай бұрын

And you know damn well the money they cut from funding would not even go into things like providing health care or a safer environment for their citizens

@ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958

Ай бұрын

The Chinese government has offered to hire any NASA workers laid off so they can work at CNSA. Russia also has jobs available at Roscosmos.

@TheDragonRelic

Ай бұрын

There’s still china 🎉

@MarcosElMalo2

Ай бұрын

The reason NASA would never hire you is because of your inability to control your impulse to riot.

I strongly suspected that the sample return mission would be problematic -- we should send rovers that do all analysis in situ.

All I read was "bad news from mars" and all I could think of was martians having a news channel

@flapjackfae

Ай бұрын

I thought Matt Damon died.

@dwightpierce9973

Ай бұрын

Plenty of money for the illegal" visitors, , heading back to the dark ages?

@MCsCreations

Ай бұрын

Or a protest in front of one of the rovers. "Mars for the Martians!", "Go home, humans!", etc...

@M167A1

Ай бұрын

Perseverance sights tripods

@CommanderCodyChipless

Ай бұрын

@@MCsCreations Martians version of racism would be calling us "smooth skins"

You know what didn't get cut this year? The salaries of people in Congress. Gotta fund both sides of those pesky wars too.

@zeusprophet7305

Ай бұрын

Nor did the salaries of corporate executives. Perky wars are good for the economy and promotes scientific research and development.

@matthewconnor5483

Ай бұрын

Really want to be depressed look up how much of the budget is just interest on the national debt... This how the banks get you twice funding both sides.

@jebes909090

Ай бұрын

tesla's cutting 10% of its work force and is trying to give elon that 56 billion dollar package again

@ShomiTheGreat

Ай бұрын

And the war funding. Gotta keep producing weapons, it seems...

@desiguy55

Ай бұрын

@@zeusprophet7305 60 billion for Ukraine by the very excited democrats.

Imagine if space exploration was as profitable as war.

@RideAcrossTheRiver

Ай бұрын

There's nothing profitable in space exploration.

@CrabRangoonSortaGuy

25 күн бұрын

Imagine if we didn't need a profit incentive do do nice things that benefit other people 😔

@Jon-yo4wj

25 күн бұрын

​@@CrabRangoonSortaGuy meaning volunteer labor..

@user-no4fq3dt7d

25 күн бұрын

​@@RideAcrossTheRiver collecting metals like gold and platinum from asteroids could be pretty profitable I think

@RideAcrossTheRiver

25 күн бұрын

@@user-no4fq3dt7d Except, no: the Asteroid Belt is basically silicate and carbonaceous rock with some hydrated minerals. All the dense stuff is on Earth. What good is a resource 3 AU away that you have to spend billions to find it, mine it, transport it back, and get it down through 5,000 miles of atmosphere?

Really appreciate you, Anton! You're one of the best sources of science news because of your honesty and humility -- not going for the clickbait and catchy titles, just delivering the straight facts and news. 👍

Bad news from Mars. Turns out Earth has life on it and they've figured out how to get here. Everyone hide.

@user-bp8vy5gy5n

Ай бұрын

😂

@deborahswart1718

Ай бұрын

hahahaha

@568qwerty

Ай бұрын

Ha ha, that was a good one

@robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708

Ай бұрын

Watch out for giant laser beams from the ufos

@FoodNerds

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Color photos of Mars blow my mind every time. It doesn't look so different from a desert on Earth.

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

We're working on it!

@jfcdefg

Ай бұрын

Earth is space too...

@MarcosElMalo2

Ай бұрын

Other than metamorphic rock?

@modulosonoro

Ай бұрын

That's the basis for a good conspiracy theory, right there.

@RideAcrossTheRiver

Ай бұрын

@@modulosonoro Earth and Mars are made of the same stuff. Why should they look different?

That pre-Solar asteroid in Australia has me psyched for more super-ancient rocks we can actually touch, so those L-4 Trojans are right up there with Calysto and Miranda on my "if I had a fleet of deep space probes" wishlist.

Anton. You are terrific. I watch and understand much of your lectures. Picky point. 'WE' are not 'discussing' anything. YOU are a very good teacher, presenter and lecturer. Say it that way.

I love that the scientists are naming areas on Mars after LOTR places. One day when people go there, they'll say, "hey, did you see Nelrond over in Valinor Hills?"

@castillonelson

Ай бұрын

I think using mayan mythology will be more appropriate.

@jasongarcia2140

Ай бұрын

​@@castillonelsonIt's not a question of which is MORE appropriate young man. There is plenty of room for many types of names.

@FLPhotoCatcher

Ай бұрын

@@jasongarcia2140 Names of figures in the Bible seem to be dis-allowed.

@bloodyfluffybunny7411

Ай бұрын

​@@FLPhotoCatcherthat's great to hear 🎉

@jonkaminsky8382

Ай бұрын

@@FLPhotoCatcher That’s because the people who are approving the funding for the research for NASA have ancestors who hated Jesus. Not much has changed in two-thousand years. They still spit on Christian missionaries in Tel Aviv.

Screw Congress- I'll just go collect the rocks myself.

@zimriel

Ай бұрын

On which rocket? The deepstate doesn't want a rocket to launch if an independent builds it. Look what they're doing to Elon. They'll do it to you.

@davidwoods7408

Ай бұрын

Agreed!

@chrisreaney1980

Ай бұрын

I'm already on my way

@meleardil

Ай бұрын

Hundreds of billions for WAR, nothing for science. Politicians. The parasites of civilization. We are way overdue in our regular necessary deworming.

@highdesertoffgrid4225

Ай бұрын

If it's a good idea, private industry will finance it. Bad ideas are funded by taxpayers at gunpoint.

Thank you for all your hard work for our educational benefit. Please accept our thanks!!

Thank you. This was a very exciting show.

I hope the Titancopter avoids all those attacks it's going to face. :)

The fact that we used to spend $300B per year on NASA inspiring the whole world and today less than $25B despite tremendous economic growth is unsettling. The US must remember its place as leader in scientific endeavor and allow for the budget to maintain this leadership. We're not even funding Chandra X-Ray observatory despite the whole world's astronomors relying on it since it's the only one and works perfectly well

@simongreenwood445

Ай бұрын

They do it thinking that the private businesses will be willing to help with investment but not every one is like Elon

@darthvirgin7157

Ай бұрын

@@simongreenwood445 Muskyboy is overrated and a m0r0n. he’s an inheritance baby who got lucky with paypal and BOUGHT innovative companies like Tesla and SpaceX.

@chrisantoniou4366

Ай бұрын

I couldn't agree more!

@robo5013

Ай бұрын

You do understand that the space race of the 60's was part of the cold war? If it wasn't for that we wouldn't have gone to the moon. Landing humans on the moon and successfully bringing them home wasn't about inspiration but about proving to the Soviets that we could launch a nuke into space and have it re-enter the atmosphere and land in the middle of Red Square.

@beilkster

Ай бұрын

Not all of the US scientific endeavors funnels through NASA funding. ITER fusion reactor (6.5 billion) is one of many examples.

I love everything about your work here ❤

I am really enjoying your videos.. Thank you .

Phobos, and Deimos,......"boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew."

@zimriel

Ай бұрын

Yesss. We need asteroid colonies. These can lead to a Deimos colony, which - given good supply-lines - can just drop / collect samples by tether.

@MichaelOfRohan

Ай бұрын

Whats taters, precious?

@everettwalker9141

Ай бұрын

Need to get the democrats out of NASA

@zimriel

Ай бұрын

@@everettwalker9141 Speaking as a fellow anticommunist who knows today's Democrats for what they are: It's not NASA's fault so much as Congress', and there are plenty of Republican pigs in this Congress, crowding around for Democrat scraps. Your ire is better placed against other agencies, like the FAA, for trammelling the iterative testing of Musk's Starship.

@user-pv2fz6wm2g

27 күн бұрын

​@@everettwalker9141why

I have to agree with one of the comments. How sad we spend less on exploration and more on war.

@kecksbelit3300

Ай бұрын

even for no reason it isn't even a real war we tanks and soldiers can't do shit if someone will start losing the war they can just press a button if they want and "win"

@IceMontgomery

Ай бұрын

🙏🏾🙏🏾

@mr-x7689

Ай бұрын

As paradoxical and ironical it might seam. War furthers the development of peacfull tecnologies, that aids in the progress of exploration. To those who dont know. The rockets we use to visit space and to send stuff to other planets, where originaly developed by the germans during ww2 to bomb the brits. The nuclear bombs gave birth to nuclear reactors, to light our cities, and to give energy to some space crafts/satelites. There is probably a werry high amount of things we use in exploration, and even in general today we take for granted, that have it's origins in the military. So as horrible war is, we also got plenty to thank it for. As much as i want to see all conflicts come to a end, and for all weapons to be destroyed, i can clearly see the good it all also have brought us. We can only pray for a day in the future, where we no longer need weapons to set our differenses aside. I truly believe we could acomplishe so mutch when it comes to space exploration, if we would be truly willing to work togeather and be transparant and open. But that's not in humanitys nature. We allways have had an them ageinst us mentality, and the few times we tried out to not have it, it's never lasted long.

@reasonandlogic1024

Ай бұрын

Lobbyists gonna lobby 🤷‍♂️

@vallejomach6721

Ай бұрын

@@kecksbelit3300 ...if 'they' actually have a button that works...and when 'they' are going cap in hand and begging to borrow weapons from tin pot dung hole countries it makes you wonder. I would not be at all surprised if 'they' had even a fraction of what they would like people to believe...and how much of it is actually functional is probably even less than that after several decades of Oligarchic corruption. And half of the garbage 'they' make couldn't hit a barn door at ten paces.

Great video thanks for sharing 🍻👍

Thank you Anton for continuing to keep us informed in a good rational manner. We'll done!

If we won't return 3 kg of samples till the 2040s, how do some people think we'll return 500 kgs of humans by the 2030s?😂

@grumpyoldman6767

Ай бұрын

Because Elon isn’t a government agency.

@GamerBoyRobby

Ай бұрын

Starship

@lunaticbz3594

Ай бұрын

Oh.. we're not returning the humans, they are staying on Mars.

@lhaviland8602

Ай бұрын

Because they drank Elon's kool-aid.

@kolbyking2315

Ай бұрын

@@grumpyoldman6767 Before a manned Mars mission is launched, someone will need to build and test a 6+ person lunar base, with multi-year crew habitation, >10MW power generation, and capable of producing at least 250 kg/day of Hydrogen from lunar ice. The only ones planning something on that level are NASA/ESA and China, and they don't plan to finish that until the late 2030s.

$11 billion is hardly even a rounding error to the U.S. Government.

@MarcosElMalo2

Ай бұрын

True. But it’s not a rounding error for NASA.

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

NASA _really_ doesn't like rounding errors...

@OrgusDin

Ай бұрын

They need more of that money to bailout useless financiers when they knowingly take totally unsustainable positions based on the foreknowledge they will be bailed out.

KZread randomly unsubscribed from you… very odd. Well I fixed it so I should be getting notifications again! Thanks for the info in the video, great work!

Greatest update, exciting 🤗👍

"No Bucks. No Buck Rogers."

@Noqtis

Ай бұрын

"No Marks. No Marks Zuckerbarks!"

@scott-hr3hd

Ай бұрын

@@Noqtis good point. You have an eraser for those marks?

@nadahere

Ай бұрын

NASA: $11BB Elon 'Electric Jesus': Hold my beer...

@Noqtis

Ай бұрын

@@scott-hr3hd does a metaraser work?

@ImieNazwiskoOK

Ай бұрын

@nadahere SpaceX doing a science mission would be quite new

Countries should be working on this together. Split the costs, plus it’s good relations for countries working together instead of murdering each other. We can accomplish SO much more.

@oberonpanopticon

Ай бұрын

_insert “Like that’s ever gonna happen” from Sherk here_

@CamelliaFlingert

Ай бұрын

We can't, majority of humankind is not smart, they're an aggressive and greedy creatures without the ability to care about the long term benefits + lacking the empathy + too egoistical, smart people have failed the evolution race

@Rhiannon_Autumn

Ай бұрын

that would be nice.

@darkbooger

Ай бұрын

@@oberonpanopticon Somebody once told me

@enid9911

Ай бұрын

I prefer the latter. We are too many humans. I want a planet earth with only AI.

Nice job

It would be pretty wild, but maybe due to the thin atmosphere, you could do a sort of in atmosphere pick up of a payload using like a hook on a bungee cable. I mean like at high speed, skim the surface to like to the top of a hill and then add thrust and pull out into an Earth return track. That is to say pick up something with a rocket is partial orbit. In a way you could do it like the Apollo returns with a smaller lift of rocket on a rendezvous track.

Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 😊👍

Ya know if you take that mars rock and make it into a bunch of expensive rings when you're done with it,you could cut the price down a little.

thank you Anton

Given the increasing cost of missions as we explore further and ask deeper questions, do you think that multi-nation projects (e.g., NASA-JAXA-ESA) might ever replace single-nation missions?

"Three times NASA's budget to annoy the Russians? Make it so."

Thank you wonderful person Anton for all the latest off world news

A public request for ideas. One might be with unacceptable hurdles but Cherry picking the best bits from thousands could get the mission executed sooner, for less and be reusable. You just never know. A lot of thinking, in creative application, can cure this problem. Interesting content. Thank you👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🇦🇺

"by at least a little bit" will be my new favourite vague phrase....

Another great vid Anton thank you. And thanks for the subtle confirmation of extraterrestrial life in your clip at 11:22 😂

Hey Anton! Looking forward to seeing more of these videos. Thank you wonderful person!

Great job

Thanks!

Outstanding work Anton! Thank you. 💯

I can't imagine Ingenuity's batteries lasting 20 years. It's solar panels will get covered in Martian dust, and the batteries will freeze. Like most of what NASA builds it's lasted far longer than expected. We're well into bonus time. Thanks to Ingenuity, most future missions will have a flying scout. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sample Return Mission doesn't use similar technology. I hope Ingenuity retires to a Martian museum someday.

@RipOffProductionsLLC

Ай бұрын

I thought Ingenuity suffered damage to it's rotorblades that means it's not flying anymore?

@scott6129

Ай бұрын

@@RipOffProductionsLLC It did, but it's camera still works. Did you watch the video?

Thank U Anton

Great video, Anton...👍

Good one.

Thank you

There should be a prize for the first “privateer “ to retrieve the samples. !

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

Before the US landed on the moon, the Soviet Union sent several probes to explode across the lunar surface, scattering a ball of little platinum Hammer & Sickle pins over an area hundreds of meters across. If someone managed to _collect those little platinum medallions & return them to Earth,_ not only would their removal be a bit of snarky one-upmanship over Russia, but the pins themselves would likely be _very_ valuable as rare-earth space-race collectibles that'd been to the moon...

@c3ramics

Ай бұрын

They already do kind of do that. Contracts for the moon have been publicly open to private companies for a while, and many of them have not made any progress or went under.

Relying on the US Govt for anything is just setting yourself up for disappointment.

@prependedprepended6606

Ай бұрын

That is a very simplistic answer. Part of the problem is that we are not collecting the taxes that we did in the past from corporations and wealthy citizens. Also, nearly 50% of this country doesn't believe that we went to the moon and their representatives have to vote in line with their beliefs to keep their jobs.

@VainerCactus0

Ай бұрын

You mentioning the US govt implies any other government is any less trash.

@friedrichjunzt

Ай бұрын

Not always but often. Wont be better if they reelect the orange Wannabe-King.

@TrailRunnerLife

Ай бұрын

@@friedrichjunzt doesn't make any difference

@ericlipps9459

Ай бұрын

Well, if we'd relied on private industry to get to the moon, we'd still be waiting. For that matter, without government funding we would probably never have put up any communications or observational satellites. Civilian ones, anyway.

Great content, thanks Anton. I wish the quality of the audio was better. Often difficult to understand.

We have a party that sees $2 trillion spent on a war as a bargain, and $2 billion on improving our nation, as a waste.

@nomdeguerre7265

Ай бұрын

While I abhor fanaticism, I appreciate partisanship and can see value in nationalism. But I would argue that the 'space program', and most especially space science, should be agnostic and entirely outside, absolutely as much as possible, partisanship and nationalism. How many times do we have to see embryonic or infant space programs based on nationalism or partisanship crippled or blighted when the winds of fortune and popular attention change? If there are lessons to be learned from twentieth century experience they are that space science is global, that, literally, 'we are all in this together' and that 'we are in this for the long haul'. What we are creating here is just seeds, which can bear fruit for generations. Who knows what 'weather' in the long-term they might see? I would suggest considering whether they might be too valuable to be 'hitched' to any wagon, however worthy or beloved....

@zerocool9774

Ай бұрын

You have a party that sees stopping Russia in Ukraine as having more sense than stopping it then it will attack some NATO country after defeating Ukraine.

@cacogenicist

Ай бұрын

$2 trillion for _what_ war? If you mean aid to Ukraine, that's been about $75 billion. The US military budget in 2022 was $812 billion, for perspective.

@MR-intel

Ай бұрын

Did you ever pass maths?

@douglaswilkinson5700

Ай бұрын

​@@nomdeguerre7265Politicians are too busy using our tax money to buy votes.

MSR has always been a stillborn project, and it's kind of surprising not everyone realized that. And if it had been cheaper, it'd still have been "too expensive".

@AnkleSpur

Ай бұрын

Very often, what appears like "not realizing" can actually be "hoping nonetheless".

Merci Anton

I have just read Worlds in Collision by Emmanuel Velikovsky. The book mostly focuses on the Comet and Planet Venus but there is a large section on Mars and explanations of why Mars is the God of War and how it may have lost its atmosphere, and very recently too.

Thank you Anton!!!❤

The fact that $11b is so far out of the budget makes me so incredible sad. Especially when there's people constantly complaining about how NASA is a waste of money anyway. They don't even realize how little we spend on it, it just sounds like a lot to the layman. Hopefully, in the age of these personal billionaires it kind of sheds some light on how little we spend on this stuff comparatively.

@PeachesCourage

Ай бұрын

Who isn't with you in this yes extremely sad take care?

@zimriel

Ай бұрын

"professorator" I'm guessing you're not a fan of "billionaires" and believe they should "pay their fair share", even if they're actually delivering cheaper rockets than the official channels do. As one who is not in the private sector himself, so is paid by those who get to decide who pays and who gets paid.

@RadioactuveToy

Ай бұрын

@@zimriel Yeah and how many people were exploited in the process of making those cheaper rockets? They don't pay their fair share, finding ways to increase the bottom dollar while decreasing quality, overworking and underpaying or downright abusing workers.

@Aaaa-gs7ww

Ай бұрын

@@zimriel what does a handful of private contractors building rockets for cheaper have to do with the tax rate for literally hundreds of billionaires who aren't doing that? meanwhile they almost certainly are paying a lower effective tax rate than you on money they will never even spend due to the sheer quantity of it

@Reiman33

Ай бұрын

But it is a waste of money. All expenditure of money that does not generate more money than was put in, is definitionally a waste. Regardless if you "like" the thing the money was spent on. Economic fact is what dictates government fund allocation. I am sick to death of people ignoring this. War generates profit, get over it. Space science does not. Get over it. I think NASA should receive more funding. But i refuse to pretend it isn't a waste by the definition of the word waste. Speculative investment on a future prospect is just a very verbose way of saying "waste" in economic speak. NASA at best, is speculative investment on a future prospect.

2 steps forward, 3 steps back. Science and space news this last year was very uplifting. Obviously somebody had to take this progress down a peg.

Fellow Tolkien fan Love the channel

I think we all knew the sample return mission would never happen

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

If it did, we would hear only partial findings for 15yrs, then find out that every test indicated the presence of microorganisms, _after_ commercial mining was already underway.

@travishylton6976

Ай бұрын

​@@davidlang4442 like who that fraud musk😂

@RideAcrossTheRiver

Ай бұрын

@@prophetzarquon1922 Commercial mining on Mars for WHAT? Its density shows it's mostly rusty iron and silicates.

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

@@RideAcrossTheRiver Yeah, frankly, unless the plan is to expose its "solidified" nickel iron core, I don't see what's worth going down there for, from an industrial perspective. There's easier access to most useful elements, in low-G. (Plus, the core isn't _known_ to be solidified, just speculated, & even if it is, getting at it would be an engineering feat that kinda begs the question "why here?")

A man mission ??!! when it's said that retrieving a little sample from mars would cost too much, so how much would it cost to send people there and get them back? so with that logic it will never happen.

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

The plan is to leave the people there. This is not a joke.

@confushon1398

Ай бұрын

They were never intending to return the people. They are going there until they die.

@kukipett

Ай бұрын

@@prophetzarquon1922 Yes i've seen that, we say "seing Venice and die" well that will be "seing Mars and Die" very romantic!

When they said they weren't testing samples because they would be collected later, I immediately thought, those are going to sit on Mars for a very long time.

@gulutaalan8845

Ай бұрын

Forever... man will reach Mars before samples return, maybe because they knew the 2 Viking LR were right and that would completely block human missions.

My favorite video title of the week: "Bad News From Mars"

Man how cool would that be being the astronaut that picks up Ingenuity and bring it home.

I wonder if Anton might do an epsisode to explain some of the orbital paths around the Earth, how much energy to each and such. Today I pondered how does a Sun-syncronous orbit of the Earth work, as I heard someone mention.

1:35 I honestly want a fully itemized cost breakdown of that, it sounds like someone is buying 90,000$ bags of bushings again.

Love the space ship 😂

I would pay 11 billion dollars in a nanosecond over how the money is being spent right now

@MarcosElMalo2

Ай бұрын

Do you want my PayPal? I’ll do it for 10 billion.

@EsdrasOlivaresPcmasterrace

Ай бұрын

As long as godam Americans keep romanticizing the military culture we will never make any real investment/progress

Would love to see NASA put a rover on Phobos and Deimos!

You would think this would be easy and less expensive. Send a Robot to Mars to collect the samples. Then using a return Space vehicle like you did on the Moon, come back with those samples. I admit my explanation on how to do it is simple and simplistic not knowing all the variables involved

You know who could help us meet the deadline and the budget for Mars? ISRO! India’s moon rover mission was fast, affordable, and awesome 😊

Personally I'd love it if the military spending and NASA spending budgets were swapped.

@TrailRunnerLife

Ай бұрын

We'd be invaded in short order, but I guess we could escape to space.

@firstlast6398

Ай бұрын

​@TrailRunnerLife Our country can defend itself with a fraction of our budget. The USA is practically a logistical impossibility for China or Russia ,our only realistic enemies.

@billbrooks4574

Ай бұрын

How's your Chinese and Russian +?

@1TakoyakiStore

Ай бұрын

@@TrailRunnerLife The invasion's already happening buddy. All that money spent to keep our troops away from home where it actually matters and spending extravagantly to make it seem like it's making any difference. Send the troops home. Cheaper and far easier to defend our country that way.

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

Invaded _how?_ This much landmass ain't gonna occupy itself... Both China & the US are a nightmare to try to invade.

If we can't bring the samples back to the lab, perhaps we should send the lab to the samples.. It would be an automated robotic lab.

@shanent5793

Ай бұрын

So the same as they've been doing for decades.

@cptmalcolmreynolds3623

Ай бұрын

Even harder

@ShonMardani

Ай бұрын

I think we have lost the planet Mars. I bought multiple telescopes to be able to see and take a picture from Mars, I could not find it. Then I offered $1000 for anyone who can take that picture for me, nobody was able to take my $1k, so it has left us.

@chrisreaney1980

Ай бұрын

​@@ShonMardani😂

@jamesblackwell5141

Ай бұрын

@@shanent5793 Yes,

Paleo hyper saline lakes?? Search for microblites🙂 Love all your videos❤

Did anyone really think that Sample Return was ever going to be a thing?

@helendunn9905

Ай бұрын

What's the point of exploring at all if we don't get the whole story? Shouldn't we follow up on the funds already spent to make it worthwhile? Where is the human curiosity? Oh, it went to inspect how to help the Jews exterminate the Arabs.... 😮😢

They spent all the money on senseless wars .

L4 and L5 points for Mars, well done, not many people understand how these form

IF it is too expensive to return rock samples to earth it is too expensive to send men to Mars and bring them back, and I already realized that.

The cancellation of the sample/return mission doesn't surprise me. It always felt a bit too open-ended for my liking, the whole return of the samples was never really fleshed out in any great detail. Better cancel it than waste any more money developing something that won't ever materialise.

It would have been great to have had the Mars Sample Return Mission but not at the expense of other less expensive but exciting missions, Dragonfly being 4:17 a classic example of that. I am looking forward to Dragonfly more because although we know now much more about Titan following the Cassini and Huygens missions, there is still so much to learn and discover, and Titan certainly has to be one of the most interesting places in the Solar System. Although of course temperatures there are extremely cold, at minus 180C, Titan is the only other world in the solar system that has a nitrogen rich atmosphere and a surface pressure similar to Earth’s. On the other hand, we know a tremendous amount about Mars now and from what we know now, finding life there today or in the past is extremely unlikely. It is possible life may have existed at one time and maybe even today, but it would be well below the surface, beyond the reach of present day technology to get to it. On the surface, where the Mars Sample Return mission would fetch its rocks from, no chance. For a start, the surface has been exposed to solar radiation for at least 2 or 3 billion years, and therefore I am almost certain, as certain as one can get, that the surface is sterile. In a very recent video, Anton says the methane on Mars which generated a lot of excitement because it could have been produced by Martian organisms, now appears to originate from non biological sources. So, if and when the MSR mission happens, there will be a lot of disappointment if, as I confidently predict very strongly indeed, the Mars samples show no sign or evidence of life whatsoever, though of course it would be great to be wrong.

@MarcosElMalo2

Ай бұрын

$10 Billion is 40% of NASA’s budget. I agree with you. As much as we’d love to get those samples back, it’s not the highest priority or the most science bang for the buck. I see a lot of complaints about defense spending vs science spending from people who don’t even know the name of their congressperson, let alone have ever written a letter to them.

@bobinthewest8559

Ай бұрын

@@MarcosElMalo2… Those who believe the defense budget can just be “dumped into science instead,” or even drastically reduced… probably also don’t know very much about how the world actually works either. Just for the record (and in case you’re inclined to ask)… No… I don’t know who my reps and senators are. I haven’t engaged in politics since before I moved to where I now live… and view the whole lot of them as a bunch of ridiculous fools who are bought and paid for by a small number of corporations and other so called “elites”, etc… and they sure don’t represent ME.

In order to work in tight budgets, NASA should collab with other friendly agencies & outsource some work load.

@ImieNazwiskoOK

Ай бұрын

They already outsourced the orbiter and robotic arm to ESA

3:20 Maybe we need a mars race

Ingenuity is now officially Marvin... Less Warner Brothers sense and more in the Douglas Adams sense. 😅

Looking forward to the JAXA missions.

@travishylton6976

Ай бұрын

Weeb

And I think many of my colleagues had the same problem with courses named Introduction to... Many of us never knew how to answer simple questions. And it wasn't because we didn't actually knew the answer, but because we were under the impression that it had to be a really complicated answer. Just think of aerodynamics and the Navier-Stokes equations. Those equations are massive. And they can't be solved analytically as far as I know. And probably will never get solved. Or who knows? Maybe they will be solved in 100 years. But after seeing the Navier-Stokes equations and hearing about the difficulty of solving them and being shown why they are difficult to solve, you end up thinking that that difficulty is just one of the many difficulties. And that the professor knows all the other difficulties involved but he's not telling you about it because it's just an introduction. And then he asks something rather simple, like how do you multiply two matrices and people go like... hmmmmm... this guy knows a lot more than me, so he must be asking about a magical way of multiplying them that I have never heard of. Better shut up so I don't get embarrassed. And a professor probably does know more than the students, but he's usually not asking about God knows what obscure way of multiplying them that no one has ever heard of except for him. He's probably asking about the simple method involving the multiplication of lines and columns. And maybe Gauss-Sidel. Something like that. Not some 34 order of precision Runge-Kutta applyed to the numerical solving of systems and whether that method can be made to be stable if you just add a small correction.

A sample return mission should come from Deimos and 2:13 Phobos. Much easier and both should be covered with debris from Mars.

You know what to do Helldivers. Let’s collect those samples, for democracy.

@TheJestersDoor

Ай бұрын

O7

Apparently space is taking a back seat relative to all the other government programs.

@jackmeowmeowmeow2177

Ай бұрын

Well we gotta send Ukraine another 10 billion dollars this month.

@ganymedemlem6119

Ай бұрын

Actually it was ~$60 billion. ​@@jackmeowmeowmeow2177

@CordovaMage

Ай бұрын

@@jackmeowmeowmeow2177 More like 60. Not 10.

@annoyed707

Ай бұрын

@@CordovaMage False. Money mostly spent in the USA to buy new equipment to replace end-of-service items which are then passed on to Ukraine.

@susanpetropoulos1039

Ай бұрын

Politicians get a bigger return from funneling dollars to private companies which then recycle donations to protect fiefdoms. Real dollars are more exciting than real science.

I love Tolkein's Lord of the Rings more than Edgar Rice Borroughs' Mars series, but think it would be way cooler to use Barsoom names to name actual places on Mars.

Question: are there any other moons in our solar system with Rilles or Rima type cracks and if not why not?

basically the bad news about samples its not a bad news, its a meh news that doesnt affect life on mars

@zimriel

Ай бұрын

it doesn't affect a thing but congressional porkbarrels

Fascinating. Money for war, but not for science... 😕

@darthvirgin7157

Ай бұрын

hey cletus, who do you think is paying for that tax cut boondoggle passed by dRUMPf and his cronies in congress back in 2017? and as a POOtin supporter, it must suck being you.

@stanleydavidson6543

Ай бұрын

Science of war has all the funding

@sergejadam8860

Ай бұрын

the best money ever spent 🤤

@user-du1mz5zx7s

Ай бұрын

It’s called protecting democracy..

@retrictumrectus1010

Ай бұрын

I would also put money to put fences, not to study the biodiversity of my lawn.

Government: "We are going into space and nothing in the universe can stop us! Prepare!" Everyone: "OK, we're all ready lets do this gig. Unstoppable us!" Government: "Nah, cost too much." Everyone: O_O "But..."

We need an orbital gateway and laboratory over Mars. A place where generations can live and prosper; interact with the martian landscape on a personal level while reducing any risks and increasing chances of successful operations. The amount of failed missions to Mars is pretty staggering for the last 50yrs. If the dream of settlement on Mars is still unobtainable, then we'll use this orbital gateway and laboratory to travel further away.