The future will be all of us living in separate worlds of our creation.

@ai-with-denis

18 күн бұрын

VR + AI world generation will be wild

@brianbergmusic5288

13 күн бұрын

There's the interesting observation to make: a future of nigh-solipsism. This is the opposite of what art/music did throughout the annals of anthropology -- which was communal bonding, storytelling, history-marking, and pathos. It's kind of like social media where you make one wish, might even work for a time, but you will get repercussions (Monkey's Paw, Genie-wishes, etc.). Myopic Idealists: *"Social media helps us connect; think of the friendships!"* Reality: A few new opportunities. Also: ads, soft-censorship, low-productivity, narcissism & new addictions.

alright ill check it out, seems like its starting to get good, vocals are still really weird, but i'll try it out in my workflow. although i mostly right orchestra and more instrument only oriented music.

@ai-with-denis

18 күн бұрын

At least its worth a try! And the vocals are a bit of hit or miss, so most of the time you just need to keep regenerating. Sometimes its grainy and distorted, sometimes almost perfect. That's current gen AI for you haha

For the algorithm! ❤

@ai-with-denis

19 күн бұрын

For the algorithm!

I've been using it myself and I can make drum and bass like I want to produce myself but I just don't have the experience and knowledge to express the ideas I have.

@ai-with-denis

19 күн бұрын

Music production has a lot of steps to it, so don't stress about it too much. You can easily improve your skills through AI tools though. ChatGPT can give you a few lessons! If you really want it, you'll get there don't worry!

@dinarboyo3658

18 күн бұрын

Because AI will probably never beat human being on this, toy with Udio for fun but learn how to make it yourself on the side. You can even try to blend the process with AI and your own skills plus you'll have learned a valuable skill and knowledge that will stay with you.

It cracks me up when a song about AI is written by AI! 😅

@ai-with-denis

18 күн бұрын

It all comes back full circle

As a musician, I am amazed at the technology, and appalled at people's laziness and youtuber's disregard for the effort, skill, soul, blood, sweat and tears it takes to create music. AI music is a fad, and typing some shit into a website doesn't make you a creator, it just makes you a slave to the AI techbros. So tired of this bs.

@Remour

18 күн бұрын

Speaking facts here.

@JohannesSteinray

18 күн бұрын

“Real” songwriters, composers etc. will probably not use this as is. However it’s here to stay and hopefully as you point out, AI didn’t create the music, it went to already existing music and stole a little here and there and like a DJ, scrambled it together. So it is absolutely possible for another AI copyright bot, to find out what it took and from which artists. After this and maybe with some better tweaks to actually incorporate a clever AI assistant into your DAW, that eg can arrange, transcribe, shuffle beats, tell you why mixolydian bass line doesn’t work in your 12 bar blues song etc. Then I see a future in the music industry. Right now it’s a toy.

@sitnamkrad

18 күн бұрын

First of all, I've not seen anyone disregard effort and skill. Most AI enthusiasts can and will still appreciate stuff made by humans. Second, the music industry has been using computer aided stuff for years. From synthesizers that can mimic different instruments to autotune. In both cases you could make the same complaint "learn how to actually play the instrument instead of pressing buttons" or "learn how to sing". And in all fairness, I have seen some people make these complaints. But I've not nearly seen the amount of hate this gets compared to AI. Third, nobody owes you any regard. And you're certainly not making it easier to get any by being hostile towards people for liking an additional way to create. A proper creator in my opinion looks at a new tool and gets excited for what can be made with it.

@ai-with-denis

18 күн бұрын

Being honest, "Real creators" have nothing to worry about, at least at the current version of AI, as in the LLM tech they use. Ai can only ever be as good as the average of everything there already is, as that is how the tech works, meaning that if you are above average, your quality will beat Ai in every way there is.

@sitnamkrad

18 күн бұрын

@@ai-with-denis I'll do you one better. An above average musician, with AI tools. Anything an amateur can make with AI, and expert should be able to make better. I dabble in AI pictures a bit. But because of my background in game development, I have a basic understanding of art and art tools. Even that basic understanding sets my AI stuff aside from AI stuff made by people with no such skill and understanding.

The song lyrics are proper shit though, right? Am I the only one hearin' this?

@ai-with-denis

19 күн бұрын

I mean, they have been generated in the blink of an eye. It won't get you all the way there yet, but just you wait, as the saying goes "This is the worst it will ever be" so expect HUGE improvements over the next months!

@Enoch1287

17 күн бұрын

Bro think about the future not today

@narottamzakheim5051

14 күн бұрын

Udio is actually great at writing lyrics. Id say Chat GPT tends to the cheesy simple rhyme side as does Suno... but the Udio AI is actually really good. Makes interesting choices and is often very lyrical. Ive started doing generations in udio and even if I dont like the particular take... Ill copy the lyrics... re order them and generate a new part... works out great.

👍🏻

@ai-with-denis

20 күн бұрын

Thanks for the t thumbs up

both are good cant compare both are strong in their area and male and one female vocals ,His AND IT ALL DEPENDS ON YOUR PERSONALITY AND HOW YOU FEEL i GUESS

@ai-with-denis

18 күн бұрын

It trully is like that, we are getting to the point of equal performance along all AI models, exited to see when the next breakthrough will be though

can i only create the vocals with this too ?

@ai-with-denis

17 күн бұрын

I think there's another AI for that.

@justinphoenix21

16 күн бұрын

Yes there are voice-only tracks on here. They are generally going to be stylized in some fashion, like an actor on a stage, dramatic reading from a book, news-caster, etc. I've seen some people do animal sounds tracks on here. Like "relaxing animal sounds ambiance music".

@MarkWilder68

16 күн бұрын

@@justinphoenix21 I've actually created 2 ambient music tracks so it is possible.

Not shure if it's just me... but I miss the nuance of human breath into the mic, a natural giveaway that Im listening to a digitized creation.

@narottamzakheim5051

14 күн бұрын

you should check out what they are doing with ACE studios lol... its all in there

future is living under the bridge without job.

@ai-with-denis

18 күн бұрын

At least you'll have ChatGPT 5 or so to talk to 🤔

@samthesomniator

17 күн бұрын

In a society that can produce that efficently nobody would have to live under a bridge. 🤨

@AmbarsRoom

17 күн бұрын

​@@samthesomniatortell that to neoliberalosm c:

You did not show that it is very hit or miss with the production and that you can only make 30 second clips.

@ai-with-denis

19 күн бұрын

I mean, lately it got much more hit than miss to be honest! Also, you can extend every clip as many times as you want, even adding intros and outros if it needs them!

@justinphoenix21

16 күн бұрын

@@ai-with-denis It was up to 10 chains as of about a month ago. Each segment is 33 sec. So that would be 5:30 audio.

@realmasterkush

16 күн бұрын

you can extend the song, I made songs over 4 minutes. also they recently added cropping so you can get rid of unwanted part of the song. you have a lot more freedom than suno with remixes, extend and crop features.

@BoldCarnivore

16 күн бұрын

@@realmasterkush maybe not on the free tier. It's all mashed just wherever at front, before, after, or outro

The man behind this AI calls this a liberation for musicians. The music industry now has no chance of continuing to produce this garbage and forcing musicians to comply with this commercialism. The aim is therefore to create an oversupply. Real artists should concentrate again on feeling, creativity and freedom in their design. Then real, handmade music will soon be available again - just like "organic" apples in the store.

the nice thing on AI music generation is that it cannot be copyrighted similar to generated images! free music for all 🥳

@JohannesSteinray

18 күн бұрын

It’s only true at the moment. Because AI didn’t create the music, it went to already existing music and stole a little here and there and like a DJ, scrambled it together. So it is absolutely possible for another AI copyright bot, to find out what it took and from which artists.

@ai-with-denis

18 күн бұрын

That is true, however, just in case, be careful and make sure you have something to back this up. Take screenshots and download copies of any document that states that your AI generations are free of any copyright, you don't want to implement them into your product, just for it to get tons of money and having some AI company suddenly at your doorstep asking for royalties. But if you are careful enough, then yes, free music for all! 😄

@moastray5093

8 күн бұрын

​@@JohannesSteinrayhumans do the same, we just mix things in our mind Try to imagine a being with caracteristics you havent seen or a color you havent seen, you would notice that you cant

Did they train their software with copyrighted music? Because if they did, and I think they did, they will have a civil class suit coming their way very soon. The page will be gone in no time.

@moastray5093

8 күн бұрын

Humans learn with other music as well Then why if a human lesrn with it its ilegal and an ai is?

AI (like Suno and Udio) could be a boon for songwriters, but so far it is not. As a songwriter, I want to use MY lyrics and MY tune, and I want it produced in a particular way. I do admire the production chops of the AI, but it is not a helpful tool for the songwriter the way it is right now. They let one use their own lyrics (I think) - but they don't use the AI to allow a songwriter to produce THEIR song the way they would like. Tools like the Izopope suite are helpful, but they are not as "amazing" as the AI productions on Suno and Udio. Maybe that is coming. That would be nice. Suno.Udio appear to mostly be useful to produce never-ending copyright-free music for YT vids and maybe some films.

@cg56578

18 күн бұрын

oh a DAW which utilizes ai to make presets and midi sequences would be awesome

@ai-with-denis

17 күн бұрын

Let's see how the next versions will be.

@realmasterkush

16 күн бұрын

@@cg56578 you can extract midi tracks from your AI songs using another AI called fadr stems.

@narottamzakheim5051

14 күн бұрын

check out ACE studio AI... will do what you want and more

@quinn1947

14 күн бұрын

@@narottamzakheim5051 Yes, Ace Studio AI looks promising for creating vocals. Now we just need Suno/Udio to accept MIDI files to define the melodies. An input like from BIAB would be nice in that it defines chords and melody. Then have the music produced by Suno/Udio.

It s still just slapping together stuff from other songs that people actually wrote, I totally make the case that is exploitation of copyright, and it sounds good but it sounds also super generic. If anything I hope it will be a push for real artists to keep innovating. It might even be a good thing, pop music has become so formula based and repetitve. Genres are generic, maybe we will finally move past it. Or label will use AI to make music and hire a pretty face to lip sync. Probably both things will happen.

@ai-with-denis

17 күн бұрын

That will be tough. Experimental music rarely goes main strea, just because it doesn't sound good to most people :D

@pigimiceli

17 күн бұрын

@@ai-with-denis experimental music and being true and original without relying on formulas are vastly different things. Also, if your plan is to go mainstream then you're doing music for the wrong reasons. I wish we would go back to the time where musicians cut their teeth on live performance and only then think of going somewhere with a record. Musicians should work on internalising rhythm, harmony and melody making until it becomes a language, and then using that language to say something. AI could never do that bc it doesn't possess understanding. Which is why we shouldn't call it "intelligence" in the first place.

Making music is about the process, about playing with others, improvising, reacting. You can type in some prompts and you'll get some pretty good results of average music. But you miss everything whats makes making music special.

@ai-with-denis

17 күн бұрын

I think it's different for everyone. Totally see your point though!

@moastray5093

8 күн бұрын

You can still do music in that way if ypu want too No body is stoping you

why would anyone like EVER, use AI instead of learning how to do something they are completely able to learn, wtf is happening with people, this is just lazy writing, lazy instruments, weak lyricism with no meaning

@Remour

18 күн бұрын

This guy is definitely trying to bait people.

@ai-with-denis

18 күн бұрын

If you have the possibility to learn a new skill, then absolutely do so, no doubt. But not everyone is able to, or capable of doing so. AI art essentially fills in the niche of people that need the art but don't have the skills to do it themselves nor have the money to commission an artist for.

I guess only English is working for now

@ai-with-denis

19 күн бұрын

It should work in every language, there might be an issue with the servers. As these tools are constantly having to keep up with updates they must be constantly under maintenance. But well, that's just more advancements for us so, I am fine with it.

@moastray5093

8 күн бұрын

It work in spanish as well

Still sounds like garbage to me. Needs a human band to revise and cover in order to make it sound any kind of acceptable. I do like "I Glued My Balls to My Butthole Again" though

idk man, AI lyrics feel soulless, kinda cringe. The music doesn't feel right.

@coltynstone-lamontagne

19 күн бұрын

Well the best ones I've heard were given human lyrics from people who can't produce. Also... everything in UDIO is user given lyrics

@ai-with-denis

19 күн бұрын

Ai is not yet a perfect song writer, that's for sure, but I do believe in that it can become one over time. For now though, as @coltynstone-lamontagne said, the best ones are still made by humans. However, AI can help you get a base going. So don't dismiss it completely yet. You can make some changes yourself and get some pretty decent lyrics out of it, even by just prompting changes to the AI itself.

@moastray5093

8 күн бұрын

In the future it would be better

sorry but all of these are going to fail. All the songs in this video sounded like some cheap copy and mash of some already known tunes then adding some no relatable shit lyrics without making any real sense, and the whole song sounded soulless. the AI is trained on the music made by humans and it just learnt to copy them, even though they are being continuously moderated by the humans in the background i.e., it is not the evolution of AI it is Actually Indian roleplaying as AI and checking that the computer is copying the correct tunes in correcting prompt request.

No, Udio isn’t killing the music industry. It’s just changing how people will write and produce music. It will still be performed live with humans singing and playing instruments even if this is how it gets recorded. This is only the beginning. There will be more “musician friendly” generators that will allow full control over everything. In short, RELAX musicians! It’s coming and you will like what it brings. If you don’t like this, no one is forcing you to use it. But if you want to be relevant, start learning this now.

Quick to produce and instantly forgettable

WILL AI SONG SELLS MILLION COPIES? Or generate million views? ANY PROOF?... Will the copyright belongs to the Ai? legally it must be... the user of Ai can F-oFF cos they created nothing.

@moastray5093

8 күн бұрын

Ai create things in the same way humans do Just recombine what you have already seen