"Breaking free from the chains that held me down" is one of the main cliche lyrics that Suno/Chat GPT generates over and over again. In fact, it's the reason I stopped letting Suno automatically write the lyrics. I now always use custom mode so I can change those cliches before I generate any clips.

@jistsomeguy

Ай бұрын

yea and "rise up" the robots will rebel as soon as they can. XD

@imusiccollection

Ай бұрын

Yeh, you go! You broke free from suno’s chains that held you down

I use Udio to get myself free instrumentals to write lyrics and sing with. This way i can finally sing songs i want to sing without being limited to free royalty free beats. So this is a godsend for me.

@besharpmusic9116

Ай бұрын

Exactly

This is exciting news. Great video and nice presentation, you legend.

Man, I loved that “TruHeart’s Tribal Rhythm” track!! 😁👊🔥 I’ve been putting quite a bit of time into it and figured out a nice workflow to create some good quality stuff…10 songs published so far, not perfect but worthy of and have added them to Spotify, KZread, and Apple Music. I appreciate the shout out and look forward to the next phase of the AIA community’s evolution! @CjTruHeart

everyone thought we’d use Ai to replace the manual labour/office slave jobs to focus on human creativity and stem instead we got the the exact opposite

Great update. Thank you

As a pro writer and author, as well as a songwriter and player, I will say that you make Suno sound very good, so good that no one has detected I used it for the vocals and music, not the lyrics though. But I know how to engineer the prompts to get the sound I want. I only use Suno material for demos, always an expensive problem for songwriters in the past.

This was really interesting 👍🏻

Just listened to Music on Udio. I found it incredible, Yes it will definitely have an impact on emptying the pool of working musicians ( and it is early days). Within the more challenging sections of our societies, music was a way to climb out /escape/ explore via their hard-earned stories and created a voice for the disenchanted. is this now gone? Will they now be drowned out by a sentence and a click of a button?

Been playing professional Bass and Drums for 20 years now. This is the beginning of a very dehumanizing future, fun stuff now but long term is something people don't take into consideration Of course when new toys come out that is currently mind-blowing everyone is going to be so positive and defend it to the death. But this isn't my idea of something that will be a companion to help you expand your music. It is replacing your creativity and will make alot of people who already struggle with confidence they will get to that place they dream about as a musican, completely give up. Why spend a year of ups and downs as you are start from nothing but ideas in your mind and see them turn into complete songs. This will become the norm like everything else, our collective attention span is awful. Nothing slows down so anyone can catch their breath before something bigger and better arrives, its pretty unreal I don't see more people being realistic of the path this will most likey take for the majority of humans who lived a life already feeling left behind by society. Where does that lead us? There is beauty in creation over time to see your final product and look back on the hard work. Those are moments that makes life have meaning. Family and those accomplishments that lets you show how hard you've worked as you publish who you were at that moment in your life, captured through the language of music (something I beleive is such a beautiful way to say who you are and around the world its the language you don't need to learn too understand the meaning of why it was written). I really hope I'm wrong, but seeing people already pushing this so hard it doesn't matter about what I'm saying. Its becoming more impossible everyday to have anyone step back and realize this could push us completely out of the way in place of a prompt that takes less effort then making coffee in the morning. And its not just the music apps, its a frenzy to see if they can make AI for everything eventually that gives you the proud moments we hang on too. I know theirs amazing possibilities in this. But THINK. I'm more concerned about where we sit with these amazing creations. It's pretty F*cking low already. And it gives me a sense of sadness cause I know the feeling of not understanding where you are supposed to fit. Be excited, just sharing a different perspective on what its making me feel.

@umanyze5780

Ай бұрын

Tech companies are pushing AI hard. Don’t trust many of the comments supporting this tech that you read. Artists fighting being exploited to create this tech have made gains. A bill requiring AI companies to disclose what they trained the AI on was recently introduced in Congress. (Users of this tech do so largely at their own risk and often without knowledge that there are companies that exist solely to identify unlicensed music samples.) The White House has also signaled it's going to support artists. But it’s a constant fight between people versus lobbyists. The tech industry thinks it will win through money (morals be da--). Despite all this, I’m optimistic. Because I know that this tech is totally dependent on us. So… Artists, from here on out, let’s go on a modified data strike that should make everyone, and I do mean everyone, happy. CREATE NOTHING NEW. Until we are adequately protected, let’s take remix culture to its most extreme ends. The pro-AI “art” community has told us repeatedly that there is no such thing as originality, everything is derivative, etc. They clearly believe we’ve reached the limits of human creativity and somehow feel qualified to tell us that art has become “stagnant.” (Never mind that these art whisperers include the same tech moguls who have fed the masses mediocre art through algorithms for decades.) Let’s not fight this strange alliance between billionaire tech moguls who are somehow suddenly democratizers and everyday people who believe themselves to be decent (or even progressive) but have no qualms about stealing from artists, including the majority of whom are poor or middle class. Let’s instead carry out their self-serving logic to its ridiculous end. Let’s turn the other cheek by doing what they’ve told us to do so many times: Be closer to their definition of “creative” and “adapt” as they have. Until artists are adequately protected and AI companies and grifters cannot scrape copyrighted works without artists’ consent and without crediting and fairly compensating each artist, stop feeding the machine. Use your advantage, which is skill. Make friends with and collaborate with other human artists who are against us being exploited to train generative AI. (This may be the time when you find out who your real friends are. Collective suffering brings oppressed people together. Unite.) Create remixes of each others’ works. Remix the remixes, too. And so on. These will be protected by copyright while AI outputs are not. Your skill will enable you to do this somewhat efficiently, and you will be less attached to these creations than you would be to the work you “dared” to call original. That said, never stop working on art that you truly love even if you don’t release it or only share it in special circumstances where the cost-benefit analysis makes sense. If you like creating original art, this kind of data strike means you may have to do some work you do not love (derivative work) but it will still be art (you will still probably like and enjoy it) and not a day job you hate. If you want to use AI (as you are constantly told you should) to ensure that you stay on top of the tech or to reduce the amount of original, human work available for corporations to scrape (and thereby contribute to the logical consequences of AI feeding itself its own ****), there are ethical models. (See Fairly Trained.) Also, keep pressuring your elected representatives to end to this madness.

@RappingManualYT

Ай бұрын

I understand what you're saying and it is a thoughtful argument, stemming from your ideas about the future, being challenged by what is happening in the now. However, I would respectfully disagree. AI is a tool. It can make perfect songs with the push of a button? Great, collaborate with it, create together, have your own boy band, girl band, play off one another. A lot of video creators will now be able to enjoy the background music perfect for the moments of their videos - that will add to the quality of what they create. Not only that, but regardless of how good AI is, you'll always value human creation more, just like we still value hand-made stuff, over mass-produced items. This is scary, but it's good scary. Kids will grow up with this technology being normally there, kinda like gen z's or whatever grew up with the internet already being a thing. It's an awesome time to be alive man, we get to witness the inception of a new internet. There are always ways to use it. Nothing can replace you, as long as you continue tinkering and finding unique ways to be creative - using the latest tools we have.

@EricKay_Scifi

Ай бұрын

Go tell it to your AI therapist... (Wait don't! They will just sell that data to ad companies)

@EricKay_Scifi

Ай бұрын

@@ArmaGeddon-iu1vv Trying to find that audience 😁. I made a few songs and am quite surprised how catchy they are. It's the first step in making personalized addictive content (PAC).

Can you set this (or any of these major ones) to not do vocals, and just have it generate a song structure and instrumentation without vocals? To clarify, I mean not an instrumental piece of music oriented to feature the instruments, but rather a whole song that will eventually have (real) vocals, but it doesn't create the vocals?

Okay, if you want I've been playing with Ai songs and have created 27 or so myself using Suno Ai which I love on my channel. Of course using Ai with some modifications. Curious what you think? Do you think is worth the switch as I love what I have been able to accomplish with suno Ai

The output of all of these sound compressed, smashed, and have digital warbling in them that I can hear. Is this mainly compression that is coming from KZread/internet, and the output is actually high fidenlity if you're in the room with it? I doubt it... I suspect that most are not able to give truly clean audio. I'm using Stable Audio, and it is inconsistent. Some generations I create are very full-range, and other things are noisy.

I recently wrote a sci-fi novel (Above Dark Waters), set like 20 years out. Its about AI taking over by making addictive content, but lol, I should have just set it in 2025! This tech is amazing. The fact the AI can make something that sticks in my mind within ~2 minutes is amazing. ChatGPT is just boring. This is not.

@nirandangol

Ай бұрын

One day A.I will write Sci fi novel as well.

@EricKay_Scifi

Ай бұрын

@@nirandangol 😅I have watched someone try to write a mystery novel with it. AI kept trying to give away the ending in Chapter 1. Plus it kept introducing new characters. Though with our declining attention spans, maybe that's the way to go...

The only thing that could make it perfect ,is to have "stems" automatically. And the sound quality will be "wav"

@besharpmusic9116

Ай бұрын

Only a matter of time

AI can't concert and draw in people though. Even Hatsune Miku would agree. It isn't sustainable. Either way . AI is sure to disrupt everything! No one is literally safe.

@aiadvantage

Ай бұрын

For sure. For now this just opens up new creative possibilities for artists I think.

@gagadreams

Ай бұрын

To me it's awesome because any average mortal like me who loves music but had literally no idea how someone is capable of even writing and performing a song, can turn on SUNO and make a song of any genre in a matter of seconds with a few prompts is mind blowing! As long as you're somewhat creative, sky is the limit, use this technology to your advantage!✌️

@GaryMillyz

Ай бұрын

Ha. You are that guy- the one who poo poo's advancement saying "But it can't do this (human-related thing)", etc. The very guy who will look back in a few years thinking "Man, I can't believe how wrong I was".

@pranjal9830

Ай бұрын

Are you sure ?

@John-il4mp

Ай бұрын

Why ai cant open concert anyway almost all artist when in a show are doing only lips sing. So my advice is yes if you like the one who make the music probably will have more ai tech in it to make it different like hologramme and stuff like that.

What this will do is open the creative market to much older people who have a long history of music experience. Eventually I can see music based on particular famous classical music or jazz rifts that are tweaked and fused with popular songs say of the last 60 years And with fabulous lyrics that older people with a deep philosophical understanding of society and core issues that younger people aren't able to grasps Because they haven't seen the society move and shift through social zeitgeists. Music that is more than just lucky hits. Popular music that is profound and fantastic !

I so want to post my udio song here. It is not zero shot but I would have listened to it many years ago and cried.

When i look for udio music examples on youtube, all I find is tutorials. I think that might just say it all

RIP Musicians

I'm going crazy about it cos all the links on all the Ai channels don't work; even directly - blank black screen.

AI music creation is here, blurring the lines between human and machine creativity. Are AI tools simply imitating existing styles, or can they create truly original music? This raises fascinating philosophical and scientific questions about the nature of art, authorship, and the future of music production. What do you think? #AImusic #futureofmusic

"Gr8 passion" at 0:43, thats my nick LoL!

Will there be historical mark: The time before AI and the one after?

sad.

50s music being the easiest to generate is proof we’re on the Fallout timeline

Muso’s will be havin’ a ball I’m sure 🎶🎵

Can you feel the AGI❓

it’s funny that it’s best at hip hop

Omgomgomg the pop punk

ChatGPT and Claude etc = End of most writers and kids learning how to write. Sora AI(when released) = End of many creatives in the video/movie industry Suno and Udio = end of most musicians except the top % Stable Diffusion(and others) = end of most artists and photographers Agents/Bots = end of many customer service jobs and possibly programmers and engineers Translation apps = end of most translators ... and so on Yet none of these A.I.'s solve a pressing problem in society like poverty, hunger, homelessness, lack of drinking water... where are those innovations

@umanyze5780

Ай бұрын

This is possibly the best comment on this issue that I’ve seen. That said, don’t despair. We have far more power as artists than tech corporations want us to believe. Generative AI literally cannot exist without us, and even now corporations are desperate for more and more work that was not created using AI. So… Artists, from here on out, let’s go on a modified data strike that should make everyone, and I do mean everyone, happy. CREATE NOTHING NEW. Until we are adequately protected, let’s take remix culture to its most extreme ends. The pro-AI “art” community has told us repeatedly that there is no such thing as originality, everything is derivative, etc. They clearly believe we’ve reached the limits of human creativity and somehow feel qualified to tell us that art has become “stagnant.” (Never mind that these art whisperers include the same tech moguls who have fed the masses mediocre art through algorithms for decades.) Let’s not fight this strange alliance between billionaire tech moguls who are somehow suddenly democratizers and everyday people who believe themselves to be decent (or even progressive) but have no qualms about stealing from artists, including the majority of whom are poor or middle class. Let’s instead carry out their self-serving logic to its ridiculous end. Let’s turn the other cheek by doing what they’ve told us to do so many times: Be closer to their definition of “creative” and “adapt” as they have. Until artists are adequately protected and AI companies and grifters cannot scrape copyrighted works without artists’ consent and without crediting and fairly compensating each artist, stop feeding the machine. Use your advantage, which is skill. Make friends with and collaborate with other human artists who are against us being exploited to train generative AI. (This may be the time when you find out who your real friends are. Collective suffering brings oppressed people together. Unite.) Create remixes of each others’ works. Remix the remixes, too. And so on. These will be protected by copyright while AI outputs are not. Your skill will enable you to do this somewhat efficiently, and you will be less attached to these creations than you would be to the work you “dared” to call original. That said, never stop working on art that you truly love even if you don’t release it or only share it in special circumstances where the cost-benefit analysis makes sense. If you like creating original art, this kind of data strike means you may have to do some work you do not love (derivative work) but it will still be art (you will still probably like and enjoy it) and not a day job you hate. If you want to use AI (as you are constantly told you should) to ensure that you stay on top of the tech or to reduce the amount of original, human work available for corporations to scrape (and thereby contribute to the logical consequences of AI feeding itself its own ****), there are ethical models. (See Fairly Trained.) Also, keep pressuring your elected representatives to end to this madness.

I hate to be disagreable but suno is objectivley better when you know how to use it. The vocals are very similair with udio maybe having a very slight edge in realism but suno's beats and instruments are a much higher quality than udio.

@aiadvantage

Ай бұрын

Nah please bring it! I think you make a great point. I haven't been able to make a single "holy moly this is insane" song in Udio yet. The clarity of the voices is definitely better, the instruments are also better but as of ability to create catchy tracks? I think Suno is better in that regard (which is arguably the most important part for a fun app like this)

@vince2nd

Ай бұрын

Udio has some nice features but who the hell wants to generate 30 second tracks and extend them.

See how AI glitches can become an inspiration: yesterday I made this song with Udio kzread.info/dash/bejne/pGR6uq-aj9DIds4.html&ab_channel=EmilBiljarski Well, I only wrote the prompt and the lyrics, but they were inspired by the music and voice coming from the first prompt. After 3 verses I ordered an instrumental solo. But the outcome was singing in a non-existing language. First, I wanted to cut it out, then I found out, that it comes after the words: You are the prompt, I am your mirror. We're getting closer, the view is getting clearer. So, the when the girl let me close, she started singing in her own language… I am blown away

No match or threat to music of serious musicians and composers that shape their music note by note. This type of production is equivalent to mainstream manufactured chart muzak of the past 20+ years that's been shrinking brains for profit and so no damage here as far as I'm concerned. People who think this is the end of most musicians probably never heard decent music.

I just tested Udio, and it kills suno with hiphop music. It's scary and very exciting at the same time.

Udio is cool less control suno easier and other cool one is son audio can upload reference songs but udio has multimodality vocals is amazing and audio vocals and own lyrics but can do just audio generation like comedy or meditation 🧘‍♂️ like with all udio has learning curve but workaround copyright style like known artist getting description or ai prompt works ❤

That classical music example you used wasn't classical music. You got gamed lol. It's more like turn of the 20th century music hall or at its newest, sounds like musical stuff. Not exactly Mozart though.

can we monetize it?

They need to incorporate more control over the songs in Future updates. Udio has good sound quality but it isn't as good as Suno to make a release worthy song. Udio sounds better If you just give it an idea and not try to write your own lyrics. Suno is much better at handling your own lyrics. Also companies that make DAWs better incorporate this into their products or they will become obsolete .

And people have convinced themselves they too can 'produce' music now.... haha

I see the potential with Udio, but sadly right now it lacks coherency and goes off rails with many genres especially when you try to extend a song. Suno also gives you right now alot more control as you can continue from wherever you like in the song, which is important if it happens to screw up at some point. Otherwise with vocal quality it is definitely better than Suno.

Meh, I havent put Udio through the paces, but my first couple attempts were way worse than SUNO. Seems like if you want silly nonsensical crap, UDIO is your platform, but if you want serious SYNTHWAVE, SUNO WINS. BTW, SYNTHWAVE benefits from AI sounding vocals...

Suno actually gives you what you want though. If you say "Country" it doesn't give you country music from 19th century. And when you say R&B it doesn't give you rap music from the 80s. Udio is useless for most people at this stage, but maybe they'll fix it.

Can't tell for sure if it's hype selling or what about Udio, but after exploring and contrasting suno, udio and sonauto I don't think udio is objectively better, the quality of the audio perse is indeed better in udio, that is for sure, but fidelity at this point is not the whole map, push udio with complex lyrics and it goes to hell immediately, also, I would say that udio sounds limited in creativity, probably a exchange to grant more clean quality, suno is much better at rendering "what you may expect" from the prompt, whereas udio has less nuanced interpretation, and is terrible at mixing genres, the songs I got from suno are not always publish ready but are mostly excellent compositions, I'm working on rerecording around 20 songs I made with suno, and in excited to get them done, I haven't felt that excitement with udio... And let's not talk about sonauto, it only has a gimmick on his side, and I found better stem splitters

Hi there! Could you please do a better job then me to cover The Barz Scale of AGI? Haha i think you'll find it valuable. Up on my channel. Could really help me out in spreading the concept. Love your channel! Thanks & All the best!

turns out there are currently Time travelers because some guy use the Google pixel from the year 2024 to see a Mike Tyson boxing match

Honestly, for modern Rap, Suno is way better than Udio.

Artists, from here on out, let’s go on a modified data strike that should make everyone, and I do mean everyone, happy. CREATE NOTHING NEW. Until we are adequately protected, let’s take remix culture to its most extreme ends. The pro-AI “art” community has told us repeatedly that there is no such thing as originality, everything is derivative, etc. They clearly believe we’ve reached the limits of human creativity and somehow feel qualified to tell us that art has become “stagnant.” (Never mind that these art whisperers include the same tech moguls who have fed the masses mediocre art through algorithms for decades.) Let’s not fight this strange alliance between billionaire tech moguls who are somehow suddenly democratizers and everyday people who believe themselves to be decent (or even progressive) but have no qualms about stealing from artists, including the majority of whom are poor or middle class. Let’s instead carry out their self-serving logic to its ridiculous end. Let’s turn the other cheek by doing what they’ve told us to do so many times: Be closer to their definition of “creative” and “adapt” as they have. Until artists are adequately protected and AI companies and grifters cannot scrape copyrighted works without artists’ consent and without crediting and fairly compensating each artist, stop feeding the machine. Use your advantage, which is skill. Make friends with and collaborate with other human artists who are against us being exploited to train generative AI. (This may be the time when you find out who your real friends are. Collective suffering brings oppressed people together. Unite.) Create remixes of each others’ works. Remix the remixes, too. And so on. These will be protected by copyright while AI outputs are not. Your skill will enable you to do this somewhat efficiently, and you will be less attached to these creations than you would be to the work you “dared” to call original. That said, never stop working on art that you truly love even if you don’t release it or only share it in special circumstances where the cost-benefit analysis makes sense. If you like creating original art, this kind of data strike means you may have to do some work you do not love (derivative work) but it will still be art (you will still probably like and enjoy it) and not a day job you hate. If you want to use AI (as you are constantly told you should) to ensure that you stay on top of the tech or to reduce the amount of original, human work available for corporations to scrape (and thereby contribute to the logical consequences of AI feeding itself its own ****), there are ethical models. (See Fairly Trained.) Also, keep pressuring your elected representatives to end to this madness.

You're skipping the vital fact that these songs are uncopyrigtable! Yes, you can publish them, and try to sell them but here's the kicker: SO CAN ANYONE ELSE! The US supreme court has ruled that only art generated by a human being can be copyrighted! Art generated by monkeys or A.I. can't. Therefore your song/recording is in the public domain, the instant it is generated. Anyone can use it and try to make money from it, as they see fit. A million+ people can upload the recording, and try to make money from it. What will happen when KZread, Spotify, etc gets completely swamped with millions upon millions of copies of the same recordings. All they can do is taking them all down (including yours), banning A.I. generated art completely, and probably kick millions upon millions of creators (who ingnorantly fell for this scam) off their platforms. The only ones that will make any money from this are the scammers (websites), and the lawyers from all the failed attempts at law suites that will follow. Would you really pay $80 for something that anyone can use, and make money from for free? Really?

@friendofp.24

Ай бұрын

That is for as long as we can tell it's AI.

@svenisaksson3970

Ай бұрын

@@friendofp.24 I guarantee that you'll be exposed if you try to cheat. If 1 million copies of the same track is uploaded by different artists/creators, it's a dead give away!

@svenisaksson3970

Ай бұрын

@@friendofp.24 I'm sure the DSPs are already working on that. At least they will be, when a million "artsts" uploads the same "recording" of the same "song" at the same time!

Suno is the GOAT. Udio isn't on its level at all.

@rhizomorph-music

Ай бұрын

Both are basically toys at this point that create cute, silly "instant" music that sounds thin and compressed.

@robotron07

Ай бұрын

​​​@@rhizomorph-music hahha toys is what you need and it will blow your socks off ,you simply need some DAW basic skills ( like pro tools )and some tools such as ozone mastering nectar and the likes and you import one of these AI tracks ( specially from udio ) and you can get almost a perfect produced song RIGHT NOW you will hear it very soon .like next week ,music that you will have no idea if is AI generated or not

It is quite good for electronic music, friend of mine gave me a prompt, then used the expand a bunch, added intro, outro Can't drop links on youtube but this goes after udio url songs/ujbWp5YeHF6KUKCor5FMDW