Percussion revolver shooting is probably the most distinctly American martial art. To me it’s a matter of pride to make these guns work well.

@dudearlo

2 жыл бұрын

I agree :D Its the closet thing we have to cutting bamboo mats with a katana

Blackie try pin hole glasses, brings every thing in focus. Thanks for the videos.

I got 600 fps with triple7 and 130 grain conical, filling the chambers as full as I could get them and still seat the bullet. It is deer season and I had a gutted buck hanging in a tree to test the revolver's power. 600 fps was enough to completely penetrate the bucks chest hitting ribs on both sides. I recently purchased a pietta 1851 Navy and a huberti pocket navy. I didn't know what to expect out of a 36 caliber. Much to my surprise it hits hard. If a person could place their shot accurately I have no doubt that a 36 revolver would cleanly take a deer. I can see why wild bill carried a pair of 51 navys. If you can shoot them they'll get the job done. Edit: I only chronographed that one single shot. Apparently that shot was misread because I since have fired several more shots through my pocket navy over my chronograph and they were all traveling faster than 600 fps. Around 900 fps.

VERY informative BLACKIE !! Many THANKS to you Sir !!

Looking forward to your upcomming videos on the 36 and 31 Pocket Colts... great stuff!

Man I enjoy your videos so much, just got into black powder shooting and I’m hooked, keep the great energy and content coming, blessings.

Mr Blackie Sir - that is an honest simple and straightforward HELPFUL vlog. THANK YOU FOR SHARING from The Hurunui NZ.

Love your black powder videos! Some of the best online.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks

I knew the Trescos would do the trick! Now to see if I can locate some of those clothes pins...great tip 👍👍

Blackie, Funny you mentioned Hickok... Just today I had lunch at the Hickok House Deadwood, SD. Just above, Wild Bill is buried next to Calamity Jane in Moriah Cemetery... Great job on the Pocket! thank you.

Hi from Syracuse NY brother thank you for sharing your different adventures

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

Blackie, Great Video and Outstanding Information. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and wisdom, I greatly appreciate it. Yes , You Are The Master Woodsman and Buschcrafter Thanks Again for sharing your time and knowledge passing on the craft. Hope to see you on the trail some time. Tim L.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated

Thanks for a great video with this pistol that I want to get. And the clothes pin works great! I discovered this just a few weeks ago and it works great. Plus at the range there’s always a bunch of clothes pins from targets and pieces. Good Shootin and Many Blessings Blackie! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania

Another great video Blavcky. I used slick shot cones, and reamed the cylinder .378" Shoote right on at 15 yards.

Hey Blackie! I'd love to see a video about chamber reaming. I've heard that the ball to barrel fit can sometimes affect accuracy and that some folk ream out their chamber size to match their bore size. Lookin' forward to you opinions on that!

I installed slixshot cones and filed the sharp edges of the hammer face on my pocket police. With 25 grains of Pyrodex P and an 80 grain .380 round ball I got an average velocity of 823 feet per second on the chronograph. When cocking the hammer for the next shot I angle the gun to the side and snap the hammer into full cock with a bit of force. The spent caps just fall off to the side. If I don’t pay attention to snapping out the spent cap it will tend to jam, but I want to attribute that to the overpowered load I’m using.

@gregzeigler3850

10 ай бұрын

Then Confederate forces was using just 15 grounds...

@christophermead9800

10 ай бұрын

@@gregzeigler3850 Actually no, they were using real black powder, not Pyrodex…

Good video. Good job. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.

Since you didn't change you nickname to Lefty, I assumed you had fixed it. Nice work.

Blackie I've had the same issues with the front sight. Drove me nuts but my granddaughter had lime green fingernail polish. Laughed my butt off but it works great. Hahaha and it glows in the dark. 😎

Another awesome one Blackie. Did you ever finish that Spiller and Burr? I don't recall seeing the final video on how you completed it.

Dress the wedge! Properly fit wedge will come out with finger pressure. Few are properly fit from the factory. Great video, Blackie !

Good stuff. Have a great day Blackie!

@woodsinme

2 жыл бұрын

Turnabout's fair play. Lol.

Honest man. Good for you. Liking you even more. You should be happy with the group. If you'd hit a man with those shots, he wouldn't be happy.

I've got to get one ! Thanks for the vid.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

Any time!

Who KNOWS?? For whatever REASON? Can't EXPLAIN it?? But I done got myself BIT with the NEED to wade into all this BLACK POWDER Cap&Ball stuff....and YOUR videos, BLACKIE THOMAS, have been ABSOLUTELY AWESOME! I've got a Pietta 1858 and an Uberti 1851 Navy enroute through the mail AS WE SPEAK!! BOOM! (1851 in .36 and an 1858 in .44) Let's have us some FUN! THANK YOU for your dedication, time, and instruction and a small donation to the cause.

that zoom really shows off how good your camera is

Thanks!

@blackoracle69

Жыл бұрын

Welcome!

Good video buddy, thumbs up ~John

Remember the old Marine Corps iron sight M-16 trick: Smoke your front sight with a Zippo. Not in the flame, but just above it. Helps sight picture contrast. My eyes aren't great anymore either. I have to do this with my fifty-ones in the sunshine or all I see is a shiny halo up front now days.

@hamm6035

2 жыл бұрын

I'm there with you my friend. 🙂

Blackie, a 10 grain charge in a 36 caliber cap n ball even with a conical is a low charge weight. 15 grains of fffg with said conical or 17-19 grains fffg with a round ball is the service charge. Your 10 grain load is more in keeping with the 31 cal pistols.

I ought to give some new nipples a try on my 62 Pocket Navy. It ran perfectly fine out of the box, but after taking it apart to deburr and clean everything, I had nothing but hammer blowback nomatter how low my powder charge went.

The baby dragoon shares this size frame, it also has the square back trigger guard.....I know that is your preferance.

I had always shot round balls in my 1861 .36 Navy. Got the Eras Gone Colt conical. The blowback is so severe it actually blows the hammer back to safety notch. Must get the Treso or Slix Shot nipples. PS I live in Springfield MO, there's a brass plate in the street where Wild Bill stood. The courthouse is gone. Davis Tutt did about as well as you did on that playing card. However, some speculate Wild Bill used a .44 Dragoon and not his signature Navies at that time. July 1865.

@johnwarren1445

10 ай бұрын

Reports of the time state he used a Navy Colt.

Great job fixing the problem and good shooting wouldn’t want you shooting at me 😂

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks

I'm gonna raid the laundry basket now, wife isn't gonna be happy!

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

lol

Glade you got that fixed. I am looking forward to seeing your comparison between the .31 and .36. I love shooting my colt 49 pocket. And i love the idea of shooting .36 threw such a small gun. To you is there much difference. Or is it about the same with a little more recoil.

@louisianagray8618

Жыл бұрын

Well Snapper I shoot mine with 20 grains it's a little poppy it's a little jumpy but it's not bad

@louisianagray8618

Жыл бұрын

He does have me curious on the speeds I'll have to try it in mine and see what I get

@snappers_antique_firearms

Жыл бұрын

@@louisianagray8618 thanks Louisiana Gray. I bought that original pocket navy since blackie made this video. Its the pocket navy in 11bang bangs recent history to handguns a colt video. It has become one of my favorite cap and ball. Pistols.

@snappers_antique_firearms

Жыл бұрын

@@louisianagray8618 i would love to hear. Also i shot mine using the Colt cartridge Works 36 caliber conical. It really seemed to give it some extra power.

@louisianagray8618

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's what makes mine so peppy I'm shooting the Lee Chronicles out of it I did see your pocket Navy and 11 bang bangs colt episode 9 I believe it was I sure do like your Originals

Mine shot so bad after two trips to the range an forty shots I cleaned it real nice an gave it somebody I didn't like couldn't hit anything

Looks like one you can shoot all day and not be worn out hunting or carrying. Would it be a good 15-20 yard gun for self defense with a high charge? Or shorter distances?

How much powder can you load using a round ball rather than a conical? My guess is probably ~ 5 grains more. The added powder and lighter ball might get you closer to the velocity you are looking for. Do you need the heavier conical to drop a rabbit?

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

yes i could load more up to 20 with a round ball and 17 with a conical round ball is my first choice for bunnies since it will not just over penatrate like conicals will

Those are considered fighting guns, not backup guns. Can you load it with 20 grains of tripple 7 and croney it?

I'm pretty sure the story about the card is John Wesley Hardin, but I could see Wild Bill doing it as well, he was known for his shooting skills.

@williamgregory6684

Жыл бұрын

It's been said that John Wesley Hardin killed a man for snoring too loud!!

@HircineDaWolf

Жыл бұрын

@@williamgregory6684 he like angrily shot in his direction and it happened to kill him

I have a Remington 1858 .44 cal. I have never fired it..one of these days..

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

you should i have a few videos in my playlist for the 1858

@chrishynes6091

2 жыл бұрын

What you waiting for? BP revolvers are great fun. Make sure to watch some cleaning vids. I give mine a spraying in chambers and barrel with some Ballistol mixed with water when I'm done at the range in case I don't get to cleaning right away when I get home.

Hmm... Definitely in 380 auto territory ballistically in modern terms... Usual method for signing up for the class on this one Blackie?

Safety first always at the shooting range safety glasses and ear protection

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

true

I wonder what putting a set of modern sights on the barrel would do for one of these pocket guns. A low profile front blade and a small driftable but clear rear sight?

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

night work well

@greywuuf

Жыл бұрын

Where you going to put that rear sight ? ....if you put it o. The barrel your sight radius gets pretty short.

I'm about to buy one. How many grains of pyrodex do you recommend? Definitely getting those nipples and working on the hammer notch. Can't wait to see next 1862 video. Thanks

@ToreDL87

2 жыл бұрын

Watch Duelist1954 too, latest video he uploaded, /watch?v=YmVKUlV1AJc Exact same construction as 1862 only larger and shows how to slick these up ^^

@Fallingtower969

2 жыл бұрын

@@ToreDL87 thanks

Perhaps those conical bullets are just a micrometer too wide for your bore, thereby slowing down your shots by 15-18%. Try some ball ammo for comparison.

LOL...i googled how long a pace is and got 2 types...bet Hickock was using the longer one...

Is 10 grains the most powder that you can load?

I shoot 15 grains of Triple 7 under a round ball in my 62 Pocket Police and it seem a lot more powerful than yours although I haven't chronographed it. I is the worst cap handler I have ever owned and I have been shooting black powder revolvers since 1967.

I don't shoot black powder, but I enjoyed the video nonetheless

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thanks

What's the caliber on that puppy, Blackie? .31 or .36? The 51 navy goes what, 20, 25 grains?

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

.36 and your correct this will hold 20 grains and a round ball a 51 can be 25 to 30grains

@JohnTBlock

2 жыл бұрын

So 10 gr. is awful darn light, even in the small frame gun! I've got Daisy's with more velocity than 450 fps! I'd be scared a ball would bounce off a bunny! 🤣😎😆

Wouldn't that pistol safely take a 15 grain powder charge?

Try 4-f powder or 2-f you might see a difference In power but it is still good enough to knock a person on there a#$ yeah blankie I had to edit this I ment to say 4-F

@blackoracle69

10 ай бұрын

very true

Did anyone else catch the Quigley Down Under reference?!

i think alot of people think those are like a modern revolver and run right out of the box

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

thats one of the reasons i like them it talks a little work and thinking to make it run like you want a thinking gun so to speak

Why are shooting black powder or anything without safety glasses. We only get one set of eyes!!

Main springs on the reproductions are much weaker than the originals. If you ever get a chance to try early production first generation Colt single action it becomes obvious.

Why are you using a half charge in this pistol? Ten grains is not even a full charge in a .31, and this is bumped up to .36. Standard load for the conical bullets was 18 grains of fine powder. Round balls should be happy with 20 grains. There is plenty of steel around that 5 shot cylinder.

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

yep sure is i load up to 20 but i was working on a target load

@mladenpeltekov

Жыл бұрын

He don't now for that .10 grains is ridicules charge for .36 Cal gun, from factory recommended min 15 grains is to dangers to use under charges.

If you cant cycle through that thing 99% of the time without fiddling and flicking it between each shot its not fully functional. Getting closer.

It'll hold 20 gr. Of 777.

Why not just install a cap post

Sound like me blind in one eye can’t see out the other lol

@blackoracle69

2 жыл бұрын

lol