Chris, I honestly don’t know how you are able to crank such awesome coverage out stage after stage. But man - thank you!

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

Hehehe. Thanks 👊🦋🙏

@tomkunich9401

Ай бұрын

​@@ChrisHornerCycling- It's easy with today's knuckle headed team tactics. Today should have ended with EF in the pink and UAE worn out.

@mracer8

Ай бұрын

@@tomkunich9401 You are such a knuckle headed to think that is even possible with a flat sprinter stage where everyone finish together! you think the finish bonus is 1 min?? Knuckle Head Tom!

Kudos to Giro organisers with these 2 stages designed to provide excitement on the first weekend. Much better than TTs or flat stages to get the Giro rolling and attract viewers, especially new fans to the sport.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

👊🦋🔥💪

@Michael00000001

Ай бұрын

​@@ChrisHornerCyclingthese 2 stages were better than the whole Giro of last year - maybe the worst ever.

@danmc7815

Ай бұрын

I enjoy any exciting racing, but ... I prefer Grand Tours that start with an ITT prologue, then have a sprint stage or two or three, then a stage with a not severe climb at the end (like stage 2 in the 2021 TdF, up the Mur de Bretagne, when MVDP won), then some climbs. I like Grand Tours when the leaders jersey has a chance to change hands a number of times in the first week.

Felix, Mikkel, Domen and Rafal pull super hard for 5km and rest of the 5km Tadej goes all by himself! And when he attacked, barely anyone could stay on his wheel for long except for Ben(which was a bad idea)! Top GC guys formed a group and worked together and still lost 30 seconds to him! Need I say more? G Thomas rode with maturity towards the end though unlike Ben. Even with a super strong team like Ineos, G could barely make a dent when Tadej exploded! He did say it’s “gonna get real now” on Strava! Thanks for a great analysis, Chris!

Chris, what i like the most about u is not how much skill and experience u have in cycling but how honest, level headed, rational your thinking is, no bullshit at all. U got a beer on me if u ever come to Slovenian sea. :p Cheers, man!

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

🍻👊🦋

Totally agree on the road tubeless issue. I love sitting on the side of the road putting a tube in my tubeless tire with sealant all over my hands and bike!😂

Ineos worked real hard to secure pink for poggy

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

Yes they did. Just set up Pogi perfectly. 🤪🦋🔥💪

@nakawesiabia6311

Ай бұрын

@@ChrisHornerCyclingas I said yesterday my eyes 👀 was on 📺 to watch G and co being knuckleheads and guess what they proved me right

@toccandocreacanaleulterior176

Ай бұрын

You gotta respect the Jersey wtf

Did people notice poggy throwing his glasses away at the end of the stage, was that him saying he wont be needing them again, and only needs the pink glasses from now on??, 🤔

Still can't believe McEwen and Kelly were trying to gaslight us in believing UAE Team Emirates didn't show cracks in stage 1.

I agree with you on tubless. Souch a mess when fixing a flat. Thats why im sticking with TPU. And its much easier to remove and mount a clincher tire to the wheels.

When I saw Ineos on the front, I thought “Chris is going to have a field day with this one”😂

We can’t listen to any other commentary. Chris you are a gem!!!!!!

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

👊🦋🙏

If Max wants to claim they aren't poaching material from the Butterfly Effect they shouldn't have included the read for buycycle 😂

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

😂🦋👊🚌

@craighamley3669

Ай бұрын

Exactamente!

I can back you up 100% on the tubolitos Chris!! Changed to them about 2 years ago, they are superlight and durable as well! And if you carry spares they weigh literally nothing ;-)

@richardportelance7810

Ай бұрын

I’m riding them for the first time this year - first 1K miles and they are terrific so far.

Pogi does that last portion all on feel (no computer) after that bike change 🤙

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

👊🦋

@AlexanderChernavin

Ай бұрын

This one was a surprise for me. Why don't they have an active computer on a spare bike? Power meter should work just fine in that case.

Great ride from UAE and Pog. Pog’s flat is a reminder of the Giro’s fragility, anything can happen at any time. It’s clear that Pog is the strongest rider and that nobody can match his acceleration on the climbs. Pog should conserve until the next steep climb and ride conservatively.

Chris it's not only your expertise on tactics and avoiding of knuckleheadtism, you are also one of the only people not influenced by the bike industry to give real recommendations regarding bike tec. couldn't agree more on your statement on tubless vs. tubelitos! 👍

Chris is the Goat 🐐 ❤

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

👊🦋🙏

Chris, if you haven't already please make a video about tubeless vs. conventional clinchers. Love the coverage! Your insight has taught me a ton about pro bike racing.

Chris did you catch at about 4hrs 7mins into the race as the are approaching Inter-Giro bonuses (I believe), Sean Kelly says he “doesn’t think the riders will be racing for the next time bonifications". I was so surprised that I did a doubletake and rewind'd to confirm. ROFL 🤣🤣🤣 The Butterfly Effect is gaining an audience within the Peloton! BooM!!! 👊🦋👊

Such a great recap of the 2nd stage Chris!! I look forward to these every day!

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

Thanks 👊🦋🙏

Ineos, absolute knuckleheads for helping UAE chase the breakaway🙄

@TheWorldisaLIE2

Ай бұрын

it really is incredible that teams and riders with such experience are making such bad tactical decisions

@srikrishnamurthy

Ай бұрын

@@TheWorldisaLIE2 Yeah, I thought Thomas with all his experience would atleast tell them. I think teams just settle for second and third the moment they see Pogacar on the start list

@NeilHMohamed

Ай бұрын

@@srikrishnamurthy I think you're absolutely right. I dont care what they say in interviews......Ineos do not believe GT can beat TP. Actions speak loudest and their tactics today said it all.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

The only hope Ineos have will be to ride for second and hope something happens to Pogi. But maybe they get lucky. 🍀 🤷🏼‍♂️🦋🤪

@KurtPreston

Ай бұрын

@@ChrisHornerCycling Do 'business decisions' override tactics in a scenario like this? e.g. doing it for the Ineos 'brand' and the legacy of the 'maglia rosa' rather than being ruthless politicians?

Absolutely spot on on Tubolito tubes and Schwalbe tires. I also use Schwalbe Aerothon inner tubes, too. BTW, Tubolito patch kits (with Camplast cement) WILL PATCH Tubelito’s & Aerothon tubes!

@scottf3456

Ай бұрын

Tpu is the way to go. For all the stated reasons and space they save. Carrying two spares in less space then one regular tube is great.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

Sweet. Thanks 👊🦋

Thanks for the coverage, Chris. I started building wheels in the early 70s, and I cringe at the idea of having to clean goo off my wheels before checking them in my ole Var truing stand. Tubes for me, too.

Thank you for calling out tubeless tires for being a faff filled gimmick! Modern clinchers are incredible and if you want the absolute best, get tubulars.

No one tells it like you do, Chris. Your take is always introspective and experienced-based. The best part: I've got 19 more stages of you to go!

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹👊🦋🙏

Tubeless is better for mtb than road. Lower pressures and much bigger volume tires.

I always love your critique of the race. You tell it like it is. ❤❤❤

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

❤️🦋👊🙏

In his interview pogacar said he was saving the legs a little bit on the final climb 💀

@RonGuitard

Ай бұрын

Or maybe he heard something on the butterfly effect that made him ease up if he wanted to conquer the double Giro/TdF! Hmm

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

Looked that way. 🔥🦋💪

@robbyrogersberg1520

Ай бұрын

You gotta expect a curve ball now and then, this was his, ⚾️

Thank you Chris! You are may first choice in the morning while enjoying the Ristretto 😉

Love your detailed coverage appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experience! Love the humour ...knuckleheads LOL

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

👊🦋🙏

Been riding tubeless and hookless Giant SLR1 wheels with Schwalbe Pro One TLEs for the last 4yrs and they are awesome. No problems what so ever.

Now Tadej is just going to settle in and ride his race. It's going to be like watching Secretariat at the Belmont in 1973. He is racing like a Tremendous Machine! 👍🏻🚵🏼🚀💯

I am glad Chris talked about tubular, tubeless tires, I hope he expands his topics and include such biking tips! I know GCN talks about it, but I love hearing it from Chris and his experience with certain bike components for weekend warriors and casuals like me

@scottf3456

Ай бұрын

I agree.

@rattila13

Ай бұрын

I love Chris, but his views on this are archaic, and his assessment is inaccurate. Tadej's tire was completely flat, he said it himself in the interview, he was riding on the rims. Rims, whether they are carbon or aluminum have no traction on the road, wet or dry, it's like riding on ice. Sealant can be an inconvenience sometimes when your tire goes completely flat but it saves you from tons of small punctures, and the entire peloton is riding on tubeless systems with sealant now, because it works.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

Certainly I need to find time for a video on this. 👊🦋

@Aidan-tu4un

Ай бұрын

@@rattila13 last pair of my road tires (28mm with tubes) lasted over 8000km without punctures how can gloopy tubeless be better??

@petedog9581

Ай бұрын

Tubeless tech is for wide volume tires with thick casings to be run at low psi. Mountain biking or gravel. Tubeless is a game changer for trail, but silly on road tires.

I've been riding Tubalito TPUs for 4-5 years. They've been great, but i switched to Ridenow, which are the same thing only 1/4 of the price. They've been great, and so far, so good. Side note- i ran tubeless about 5 years ago- what a hassle. I wanted something that felt like a tubular, and it was close, but a huge mess. TPU tubes are really the way to go.

@dpstrial

Ай бұрын

I experimented for a year with tubeless on my CX bike, mainly riding on-road, and did not find it worth the bother. They are better suited to low-pressure tyres on mountain bikes. I have yet to try TPUs.

@axelmogr

Ай бұрын

Ditto. Been riding the Ridenow tubes for a while now and they're fantastic. Fast, comfy, lightweight, plus great puncture protection.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

The mess is craziness. It’s everywhere after it sprays your bike when you flat. 😬😱🦋

You’ve almost sold me coming back from VPN SBS Australia coverage to Max’s import of the GCN+ crew. Miss those guys , gal, and bus talks!

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

Love me some bus talk. 🚌🤪🦋👊

Always the best race recap. The only thing that would make it better is if you can get video. Your depth of experience and with the enthusiam you deliver it with makes racing more exciting. This country should be showing the classics and monuments on regular tv with you in the "booth" and some other person who isn't a stiff. I bet people would tune in if they gave it a chance.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

NBC always kept the racing so simple. The winner was the best and he did nothing wrong ever. I always preferred how TNT basketball broke down the game and explained what the players did right and wrong. When I raced there was never a perfect race, even the ones I won were not perfect. 👊🦋

I got to watch the last half of the race and really enjoyed it. After that I keep checking You Tube to see when you would be posting your thoughts. I probably just watch you and not the race and be just as happy. Ride on.

Couldn't agree with you more Chris on tubeless. Latex tubes are just fine!

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

👊🦋

@markmark2469

Ай бұрын

@@ChrisHornerCycling Hey Chris! Love your channel! Keep up the good work!

Fantastic call Chris, you explained what would happen on the Butterfly Effect after stage one if Ineos rides on the front today. Well, well, a lot of Knuckle Headism! You should manage a team or the major networks are making a big mistake not to employ you . I hope for the sake of bike racing that the big offers come in for you and the family and reality, before the Tour starts. Thanks mate for what you do.

Exiting stage! Love your recaps 👍🏼👍🏼

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

👊🦋

Great recap! Thanks.

I watch the whole race at Max and even watch that last segment twice for it was really action packed. It became even better after watching this episode for Mr Horner did a magnificent job analyzing the events that I was not able to get from Max commentators. Thank you also for your insight on tubeless tire on road bikes for I feel left behind and thought I am making a mistake not switching to it. Again, many thanks !

Great job Chris as always! Loved hearing your comment on Tubeless sucks! I ride nothing but tubulars and have done so for 41 years! Very very seldom do I get a flat. It's been probably 20,000k or 2+ years! Again, thanks for your commentary and race perspective Chris!

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

👊🦋🙏

Congrats on the sponsorship! BOOYA!

Tadej looked better today (rested) and UAE’s strategy was better, as well… 🍻

Gotta love the motormouth commentary! Great stuff young Chris!!!

Narvaez can't climb like Pogacar that's why I knew today's stage he would drop it was too much for him even after Pogacar fell I can't wait for the bigger stages later in the Giro it's gonna be good and hopefully Pogacar doesn't have the problem he did today👊🦋🦋

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

🔥🦋👊💪

Thanks, Chris!

Can't imagine being on the toughest part of a long stage and seeing Pogi throttle the pace...this guy is taking souls!

I enjoy watching the stages while predicting what Chris will say later.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

😂🦋👊

I agree on everything, including the tubeless problems. Pogi was lucky this didn’t happen on a downhill section.

Great analysis as usual Chris!

Great commentary Chris - appreciate the thoughts on tubeless vs tubular as well. Barring crashes, it looks like it will be a matter of not if, but by how much Tadej wins this race.

This is the best coverage of the Giro!

Great job chris thank you.👊🦋👊🚲

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

👊🦋🚲

I was in shock sitting on the Chesterfield seeing Pog crash on his own tubeless tyre sealant.

Tubes rule!

Another on point video! Thanks Chris!

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

👊🦋

tubeless is fine if done right for the right use case, I've been doing it for about 5 years now, I have had punctures seal up on long rides miles from anywhere, I have a seat bag full of stuff to fix a flat but so far have never had to use it. Coming from my bmx bike that loses a tube from time to time and not having to stop riding completely or have to pull a wheel (especially a back wheel and having to remount and redo the chain tension and center the wheel etc.) to get back up and running is life changing.

Came for the smack down of Max and authentic race analysis, you didn’t disappoint Chris! #more drone shots #call me Jane

@leronharrison1110

Ай бұрын

Chris coming with shots fired at everyone but the lady commentator. Sean Kelley and co better leave Chris Horner alone before he goes John Wick on them!!!

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

Call Me Jane 🔥🦋👊

Oh yeah!

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

🔥👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋

...."them guys at MAX not understanding how to bike race" hahahahaha knuckleheads everywhere! Thank you!

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

🤪🦋👊

"I hate tubless tires"! LOL!

As always, great recap. And looks like Pogačar rode the final climb by feel, without a computer. Considering later he said he wasn't familiar with this climb, that was impressive. BTW, not 100% in agreement with you about tubeless tires... IMO what's questionable here is about running the Enve 'hookless' rims and not running tubeless tires. Had he been on a set of 'hooked' rims with tubless tires, pretty sure he would not have had the blowout after the corner and taken the small fall. Hearing Enve is not doing so well right now, maybe UAE will get a new rim sponsor next season and run some 'hooked' rims.

I tell you, Max sucks I didn't even get to watch the last hour. I paused the race because I had to go do something, came back, and was going to finish watching the race and couldn't finish it. And then they don't have any replays of the race like on Flo or Peacock. Then you can't watch the DOWN hill race at all. I hope this changes. Peacock needs to get all the big races.

@craighamley3669

Ай бұрын

I signed up for Max specifically to watch the Giro in the USA, but I did it directly with Cinemax/HBO rather than going through Amazon, because the service never worked properly when I had it as part of a Comcast Xfinity package. Now I just have Comcast as my ISP (because I have no other options where I live) and it works great. I can watch it live or watch the replay. I do have the ad-free version and I don't know if that affects it, but it sounds like you're not getting the service you should be.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

That’s what happens to me when I watch Peacock. They take forever to upload the replay of the race. If you get to far behind you are screwed. I miss the old GCN website with just cycling videos all over to pick from and most importantly why do I have to minutes shifting through other sports before I find my cycling races. 🤔😬🦋🚲

tubolitos are the best! i would never go tubeless.

Thanks Chris. Looking forward to three weeks of the best analysist

I’ve been on tubeless tires for 5 years and had 3 sidewall flats that were thankfully on the flats at about 22 mph. What you saw happen to Tadej is the dangerous aspect of tubeless. You have between 5 and 10 seconds to completely stop. If you’re going as fast as the pro peloton rides, you’re cutting it very close. Downhill at 50 mph, forget it. There are two solutions: 1) higher pressures (all my flats have been at around 72 psi) and 2) inserts. However, tubeless tires do have the potential for catastrophic crashes.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

I never tried the inserts 🤔🦋👍

@wss327

Ай бұрын

I think this was more about hook vs hookless rims. I'm pretty sure they run inserts for the spring classics but for the Giro, they probably would not want the inserts with the added weight.

Hey - mad respect for your tactical insights... you should be a Director Sportif with your own team! I also think tubeless tires are not just a horrible pain in the ass but are dangerous, and the new hookless rims are even moreso. Imagine if a tire goes flat like that when you're bombing a decent at 80 K/hr - you wouldn't have a chance... I also think that tire diameters have shrunk in an effort to make them more airtight for tubeless compatibility, which makes it hard for all but the biggest gorillas to get the damned bead over the rim when they're new - regardless of whether you're going to put slime or a tube in it.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

How about when they are bit older and dirtier and you have get the tire back on and sealed. I always hated that. Give my good tube and nice tire any day. 👊🦋

@petesjk

Ай бұрын

Tire diameters haven’t shrunk, the rims are different dimensions because of the hookless design. You can take the same tire and try to install it on a clincher rim, and it will probably install easier. However, you can also try to install that same tire with another, different brand clincher rim, and it may be more or less difficult than the first. There is a technique that expert mechanics use to install tires on any rim, but it requires a lot of practice.

@craighamley3669

Ай бұрын

@@petesjkThanks for the reply and explaining the rim types. I'd love to see a video of the special mechanic's technique? I do wonder on deep section wheels why some marginally intelligent engineer hasn't thought to build a V-section center channel into the the area inside the rim where the spoke nipples anchor where you could still tape off the nipples and yet have enough room to work the bead way closer in towards the hub on the opposite side, to make getting the tires bead over the rim manageable. Definitely going to be paying much closer attention to this construction detail when buying my next pair of hoops!

@petesjk

Ай бұрын

@@craighamley3669 I’m not an engineer, but I believe there’s a safety reason why hookless rims can’t have a deeper cavity in the spoke bed. Don’t quote me though, my recollection is a little fuzzy, but I do seem to remember that that area is shallow by design.

Chris, I was never a big fan of yours when you were riding, (too busy cheering on the Brits) but boy I missed out and your coverage is second to none. Keep it up 😊

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

Thanks 👊🦋🇬🇧

Thanks so much for the reply! I’d love to hear you talk about tactics for keeping your top rider safe. What does the DS say in the bus when Tadej protection is top priority?

Cycling cavalry: If you are offered some knuckleheadism on day one you should give it back the day after.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

Hehehe. I love it when they try. 😂🦋👊❤️😘

Wow, everyone in the comments today is debating tubeless or tubular, emotive subject clearly. Great ride from UAE and TP, they should be able to have a relavitely easy day today if the choose. Get their team leader to 3km to go with the other GC riders then sit up. If Poggi takes anywind what so ever today it will be for advertising and sponsorship reasons. Good work Chris, enjoying your breakdowns from sunny England.

Sounds like those folks in marketing at the tubeless bike tire companies forgot to sign you. I love it! If I were Tadej, I would be looking to loan the jersey out for a week or so. However, I have never seen a rider have so much more horsepower than the other pros. He might be thinking something different.

Must be real frustrating for the other competitors knowing Pogi is going to perform his nuclear attack on the hardest climb and and still fail to prevent it. 🚴♥️

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

Exactly 💪🔥💣🦋🇸🇮

Thanks u for the nice video

It was funny to listen to the commentary about how ineos had to lead because they had the leader's jersey (although later they talked about how it could only be a psychological advantage and was probably a tactical mistake) . All I could think of Chris calling them knuckleheads. Both Ineos and the analysis.

I just tried tubeless after being skeptical about them for years... Snakebite puncture, sealant spraying everywhere. Totally impossible to repair out on the roadside. The sealant did nothing except make a mess. It's a case of mass hypnosis or something that got everyone to buy into it.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

Exactly my experience with them. I hated them. 😱🦋👊

It’s nice to hear that Chris is also a tubular man,

Scrap tubeless, tubular for the win always in so many ways.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

I love the ride of tubulars still to this day. ❤️🚲🦋👊

Ineos just wanted to make it look like they are in control and strong for their sponsors.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

Yep.🤔🦋👍

Tadej Pogačar is not just running tubeless, but also hookless. The tire came off because there's no hook that would help hold even a flat tire in place. I've been running tubeless with hooked rims on 30c tires with no problems and lots of punctures that would have been flats with tubes are automatically fixed. Tubeless on narrower tires isn't going to work right at higher pressures

Correction to your video: a friend of mine did a careful analysis. Pogacar used hookless rims - Enve SES 4.5. I think we should blame these not the tubeless system!

Great video as always Chris 👌 Question, do you think Poggy is not getting the results/separation he usually gets when he attacks? Today he looked one to many times back to see how close the competition was, kind of nervous perhaps? 🤙🇺🇸🇨🇴...Dani Martínez for the win!!!

Right there with ya Chris on Tube tires... Tubeless, good idea but I've seen nothing but high maintenance and no real advantages. A good tire and TPE tubes FTW.

Chris, is the best! The rest are pretenders. He deserves thanks, and praise!

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

👊🦋🙏

UAE Team Ineos did a fantastic job helping Pogacar take the stage and the race leader’s pink jersey today. I’m curious to know who else will help Pogacar on his quest to hold the pink jersey for 20 stages (he’ll have to come back again next year if he wants a perfect 3 weeks in pink).

You are the best Brother

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

👊🦋🙏

Knucklehead count: 2 Kind of thought Ineos's tactics were worth about three or four knuckleheads at least.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

What were Ineos thinking. 🤪😱🤷🏼‍♂️🦋

Nice!

piccolo was/is going for kom right? so good ride in that sense.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

I would say yes. 👊🦋

Great job as usual, Chris! It seemed like Tadej was looking over his shoulder a lot more than usual on the final climb. It looked a lot different than in his attacks at Cataluyna where he was just riding his own race. Do you think he was holding back?

@NeilHMohamed

Ай бұрын

He looked tired to me. Its just that even if he's at 95 or 90% hes still better than this field. But yea he looked gassed. Its not hard to imagine why after all the effort he had to put in yesterday after his team dropped the ball.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

Yes. 🤔🦋👊

@ogradar85

Ай бұрын

@@NeilHMohamed He looked normal. After he fell and had a bike change he had no head unit on the bike for the final climb, so he rode on feel. He established a 30 sec lead and maintained it also by looking back. He said it himself in the post race interview that the last 2km were basically just managing the lead and pace.

I like how Chris isn't afraid to call out the tv commentators by name on their crazy analysis of the race.

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

They give me so much material to work with. 🤪🦋👍🙏

Chiquito horner you are a master

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

Chiquito ❤️🦋👊

Thanks for another very intelligent and interesting report Chris! I have tubes in my 38mm tyres, and have been thinking of replacing tubes with sealant. Tadej and Chris makes me less confident in that swap. I mostly go on bad and ok asphalt, but also some forestroad (dirt/gravel) . Should I keep my tubes? I guess that choosing tubes or tubeless is linked to tyredimension. Where is the limit? maybe tubes from 38mm and thinner, and tubeless from 39mm to thicker?

@KevinKimmich44024

Ай бұрын

I tried tubeless for the first time this season on my road bike. They were fine until I hit a pothole at moderate speed (30 mph) on a steep downhill on a rough country road. The tire bottomed out (90 psi pressure 25 mm tire) and I got two small holes (like spoke diameter). The sealant didn't do anything but spray all over the place. I stopped right away, thankfully. My wife had to come pick me up because I couldn't repair a stupid flat or get the tire to inflate. They sell repair kits like you'd use on a car tire or tractor tire but I didn't have those at the time. I found it to be a major hassle with minimal upside. those wheels are now just sitting in my basement--btw, they leak air then the tire pops off the bead after some period of time!

@petesjk

Ай бұрын

With 38mm touring tires, the tubeless system should work better than for narrower road racing tires. The minimum tire width for hookless tubeless rim systems is generally agreed to be around 30mm. However, while people are focusing a lot on tire widths, the systems also depend on how you use your bike. How often do you bike? Do you bike every day? How many hours do you bike at a time, and how far do you travel? Do you pack your bike for airplane trips? And so forth… Tubeless systems aren’t magic. They are more technical and require more maintenance. If you don’t ride your bike at least once a week, the liquid sealant pools and solidifies. You cannot let the tires go flat in storage, or else the tires may separate from the rims, and you have to clean out the old sealant from the rim and tires, and do everything over again. The only time they are less maintenance is if it keeps you from having to stop and fix a flat while riding. They can explode during an airplane flight and spray sealant all over your gear. Yes, they can reduce the number of times you have to fix a flat while riding. But there are many ways they require more maintenance when you are not riding. I spend more money on the sealant every year than on tubes. Tubes can be patched and reused. You have to carry a tube anyway, as a backup. It’s just the way tubeless systems work.

@erlendsteren9466

Ай бұрын

@@petesjk Thanks Pete! Listentening to your input I guess I will stick with tubes for some more weeks and decide later, I downgraded from 45 to 38mm this year and have not tested on forest roads (dirt/gravel) yet, only asphalt. The idea with tubeless is both save a bit of weight and allow slightly softer inflating (I do have some damping on my bike, 3 cm lefty damper and kingpin ). I am 108 kg heavy and runs 46 psi pressure now. I ride my bike roughly 4-5 times a week maybe 100 km in total, maybe 200. I like my tubesetup on the asphalt now, so maybe it is the best?

@petesjk

Ай бұрын

@@erlendsteren9466 It looks like your tire width would be okay with hookless tubeless tires. I couldn’t find the exact specifications on your rim and tire combination, so I suggest you look that up to be sure, but I’m guessing it would work without too many caveats. I think tubeless will offer the characteristics you’re looking for. The question is what are the tradeoffs involved, and are the advantages worth the extra effort. The sealant isn’t cheap, and it can get very messy. You ride frequently enough that you’re always checking your tires. Hookless tubeless does make more sense for a gravel bike than a road bike. If you ride in on roads that commonly cause flats, it is probably worthwhile. Otherwise, I’ve put many miles on clincher and tubeless wheels while gravel riding, and I would say unless I’m racing the downtime difference hasn’t been a night and day difference. However, this definitely depends on the road conditions and riding environments. If I’m riding in the desert with lots of prickly plants, I think the advantages of tubeless increase. However, you still have to carry tubes as an emergency backup.

Love the commentary but will differ with regard to tubeless. While I'm not a fan of the continual changes the bike industry makes in a effort to keep us buying (12 speed, electronic groupsets, etc.) and I was skeptical of tubeless, they've been very reliable for me. Haven't tried tubes a the lower pressures I'm now riding, but comfort and handling have been great!

The crash was due to hookless rims, not tubeless tires. The only reason his sealant came spraying out like that is because the tire unseated itself, which is much less likely to happen with a hooked rim.

Also, can you comment on whether Giro is much more hectic and unsafe than the Tour, and so whether UAE is risking too much to have Pogacar in the mix? What are the tactics every day to minimize risk of crash,?

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

The first week in the TdF if it has a normal flat week of racing, I think is the most dangerous of all the GT because every rider is sooo fit there. After the first few mountain stages it gets more normal racing with a bit less crashes. 👊🦋

Geraint Thomas no pulling looses 42s brutal

@ChrisHornerCycling

Ай бұрын

He probably needs some time to find his best form and was just trying to find anyway not to lose tons of time. A good wheel sucker always knows how to find a way thru the rough week. 😂🤪🦋👍

Think the problem here was Podg using hookless rims, madevit so easy for the tyre to peel off once it didn't seal.