As the strongest megatheropod Tyrannosaurus fought the fraud the King of the South, he began to open his domain. Giganotosaurus shrunk back in fear, then T-Rex said: "Stand proud Giga, you are strong"

@TheOverseerDebates

4 ай бұрын

Are you the strongest because you’re a Tyrannosaurus or are you a Tyrannosaurs because you’re the strongest?

@user-lone

4 ай бұрын

Paleontologist: Who would win? You or the Giga? Rex: If he bit me first, I might bleed. Paleontologist: But would you lose? Rex: Nah, I'd win.

@pissupmyasshole

4 ай бұрын

Where ever I go even a dinosaur page lobotomy kaisen follows me

@Mildlyinsanespinelfanboy

21 күн бұрын

Not extreme diff though

This really is a very interesting battle! What would a meeting between Carcharadontosaurus vs Giganotosaurus be like or if Mapussaurus lived with Giganotosaurus and got into duels?

@alakazamgengar5434

4 ай бұрын

They are so similar in design and lifestyle that it's a coin toss. Only size and mass would determine the fight, but it's flipping. For like a decade, carcharadontosaurus was considered the biggest of that group. But funny enough, carcharadontosaurus is now seemingly smaller again. It may flip again, but for now I would go with the giganotosaurus for the win.

@mexicandog5224

4 ай бұрын

@@alakazamgengar5434gigannotosaurus had more mass than carcharodontosaurus giga being 13.5 to 10.4 while carchar being like 7 to somewhere around 5 or more I might be wrong with the size of carchar but giga was bigger.

@mexicandog5224

4 ай бұрын

Mapusaurus didn’t live with giganotosaurus there separated by millions of years

@adminbob_

4 ай бұрын

they have very very very similar builds but carcharodontosaurus is generally smaller so it would probably lose majority of the time. on this huge scale tho it can really go any way, id say 60 times out of 100 the giga would win but if these dinosaurs ever clashed it would probably lead to them both dying whether killed directly or indirectly by the other dinosaur.

Most accurate Tyrannosaurus vs Giganotosaurus video & the correct verdict.

@rodrigoestebanquierofiguer9658

4 ай бұрын

The people say evoked no t rex 15 m and tonned 17 tons no, 12.5 m, 11 tons is the god Jehova says explains clearly the people do not know why the giganotosaurus and carchadotosaurids are first giants and also spinosaurus, neoventarios all very large the 16-18 meters the truth is, the t rex is only 12 meters that no 13 -15 never people we don't know and the very large carnvirous animals carcha is the allosaurus first 👈🙌👏 giant saurophaganax discoveries really Asia and South America, Africa first the carchadotosaurids 145- 65 million lives yes truth is God says yes together, t rex 90-65 million years little lives and I sleep history dream yes I tell real, the paleology people very evoked dic3 extinct carcha is not if I live 65 million years God says yes

@rodrigoestebanquierofiguer9658

4 ай бұрын

Concavenator corcovatus some europe and acrocanthosaurus, carcha, gigas all very big because together with spinosaururidos giant family lived 145-66 until the god says all together dinos, but 100 million years extinction evoked not dead there lived 89-66 you have if carchadotosaurids and spinos, too albesaurids 14.5 m giants like I see dreams, megaraptor 12 m that is alive, carchasorosaurus extinction 89 million very errors paleology all wrong, also spinos femur 1000 mm bad rexondtruccion, the spinos major 19 m and also carcha 16 m mostly and also siats neoventarus 14 meters even but t rex 12.5 m rare false no and the truth animals carnvirous explains god says yes

Still know so little about the Giga and it sucks, while the Rex has been studied to death soo much so we know at this point a lot and enough. Yet other Apex theropods outside of North America, like South America, Africa, Asia, and Europe we still hardly know as well. This video does well to inform we still hardly know as much about the Giga as we do with the likes of Rex, yet this fight is probably the closest and finally, someone without Rex Bias doesn't just say oh Rex bite force is best therefore it wins. This video does justice to the topic of Giga vs Rex. So props The Overseer keep this up, comrade!

@rodrigopinto6676

4 ай бұрын

T. rex easy wins of course.!

@mikeilles6427

4 ай бұрын

@@rodrigopinto6676 in your world and imagination sure XD

@rodrigoestebanquierofiguer9658

4 ай бұрын

@@rodrigopinto6676 you sickkk

@RosalinaDeAnda

4 ай бұрын

@@mikeilles6427 Good point, I do want to mention that I personally think that Tyrannosaurus Rex migth have either way had a better chance, but, TYRANNOSAURUS REX DOES NOT EASILY WIN, sure it migth win most of the time (As long as both competitors engage in battle) but that dosen't mean that it necessarily wins easily. Tyrannosaurus Rex migth win the battle but after the battle Tyrannosaurus Rex migth die to blood loss. I think that T.rex wins 70 To 60 percent of the time while G.Carolini would win 30 to 40 percent of the time. It migth even be a 50% of the time for T.rex and 50% percent of the time for G.Carolini. But, I do think that we need more reserach and evidence therefore the fight is not exactly fair. So I do agree with you. But only time will tell who really beats who.

This is so close that regardless of the victor, both animals would ultimately lose. I do feel you are overplaying the rex's bite and underplaying the giga's. One thing that commonly isn't mentioned about the rexes bite is that it likely took time for the bite to reach bone shattering power, akin to a hydraulic press. So if the rex doesn't land a proper bite on the neck or a leg from behind, the giga would be able to land multiple bites of its own before the rex could apply enough pressure and all it needs is one to pierce an artery for it to lethal. It would at worst, force the rex off before any serious damage is done to either animal. However, I do agree that the rex likely wins more due to the other reasons you mention. But with how close they are in size and how deadly they are, anything less than a near perfect bite could lead to both animals dying regardless of who wins.

Easily one of, if not, the best take I've seen on the subject. Versus battles are always a weird animal (pun intended). I agree that using average sizes and stats for both is the best objective way to look at things. Great video my friend, looking forward to the next.

@antoniocenteno1483

4 ай бұрын

Issue is, average is taking into account every specimen and making a relative estimate of all their weights combined, we have a LOT of rexes, including Juveniles but we have only one Giga and another dentary one... However, ten years ago we thought Rexes like sue where highly unlikely, but now we know there was bigger ones and they where not that uncommon

The tyrannosaurus artwork in 6:38 looks like the stare meme makes it unnerving to look at

I’ve always thought that the trex had a power bite and good endurance because of some goji centre videos and thought the giga was more of a slicer

@bkjeong4302

4 ай бұрын

Tyrannosaurus does have much stronger jaws: the reason it doesn’t have the more dangerous bite overall is that Giganotosaurus can inflict just as much damage due to having adaptations BESIDES powerful jaw muscles for achieving that, more than making up for its seemingly less threatening bite.

@potatosaurus7737

4 ай бұрын

@@bkjeong4302 ok

@GEK0dev

4 ай бұрын

@@bkjeong4302You’d be surprised that a tyrannosaurus had shaper teeth

@zadas1132

4 ай бұрын

​@@GEK0devHow?

@GEK0dev

4 ай бұрын

@@zadas1132 Over twice the amount of serrations and the serrations are also about 20% sharper, A shorter stronger jaw with thicker bigger stronger teeth and a significantly more powerful bite equals to a vastly sharper bite, I would post a link if KZread would allow me to lol

Dinosaur matchups are always inaccurate because while we have a good idea of what t rex is we dont have a good idea of what giga, carcharo and spino are apart from large carnosaurs. A few remains are relatively useless for a median size as the individuals found could have been freakishly large or sub adults. Like the variance between carcharos was it couldve been either a 10 ton ot 3 ton predator. Same with spino where people constantly use old measurements for it although the creature was probably heavier and stockier based on evidence of pachystosis of its bones recently. Its basically people trying to matchup a well historied and documented wrestler versus a guy we aren't even sure what they look like 😂

@knight1167

4 ай бұрын

Agreed. While these types of videos as very informative and interesting, as well the idea of two dinosaurs fighting is cool. But with how the difference in knowledge we have of these creatures ( like with the Rex compared to the Giga) it's really hard( if not impossible ) to make a " who would win" battle that's fair

@caramelpancakes2

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, hopefully in the future they make a breakthrough with more complete skeletons or some analysis. It'll make dino matchups fairer and backed up with actual solid evidence.

@firedestination1935

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I completely agree here, but i still like to watch videos and debates about this hypothetical fights, I think they are entertaining

@adminbob_

4 ай бұрын

is there any particular reason we have so many rex fossils compared to some other large theropods? is it because they were so abundant and successful? habitat? age? or maybe a bit of all of that, im not rlly sure

@carlossssssss5492

4 ай бұрын

​@@adminbob_North America has good conditions for fossilization, they are by far the most popular dinosaur and in turn get the most attention and yea they were successful.

I, for one, love how close this fight is. After all, a hero is only as good as his villain. T. rex was my superhero growing up… it’d be pretty boring if it was a bully that no other theropod could challenge.

The big issues I see with people discussing this matchup are a) people comparing a (relatively) accurate Rex to a very inaccurate image of Giganotosaurus, resulting in the latter being badly nerfed due to basically everything in its arsenal being either flat-out ignored or badly underestimated (as with the idea it’s bad at killing quickly based on inaccurate information about how predators that bleed out their prey actually operate); and b) even very recent paleontological research being out of date when it comes to things like eyesight (the idea of Tyrannosaurs having far better eyesight than other theropods is based entirely on its greater field of binocular vision: not only is that not the only relevant metric in animal eyesight, it’s been shown to be basically irrelevant in living theropods as per Martin 2009 and other studies done on living birds) or intelligence (the idea Tyrannosaurus has any significant intelligence advantage here being based on decades-out-of-date notions about how intelligence works in living animals and debunked assumptions about the capabilities of “primitive” croc-like brains). So what ends up happening in most videos like this is that Tyrannosaurus gets *slightly* overrated due to people consulting paleontological research that doesn’t stand up to scrutiny once we look at relevant data from living animals, while Giganotosaurus gets horribly underestimated because the videos basically ignore its adaptations (an extremely common mistake being only looking at bite force to argue Tyrannosaurus had a far more dangerous bite while ignoring that Giganotosaurus relied on vertical head movements to impart additional force during a bite, meaning its bite actually had just as much physical power behind it even with its much weaker jaw muscles, and also having much sharper teeth to boot). And then everyone thinks Rex stomps because it had useful adaptations and Giga (allegedly) doesn’t, and refuses to accept that Giganotosaurus actually has advantages in other areas to make up for its disadvantages in bite force and overall physical strength. This happens to be one of the only videos that actually isn’t incredibly biased, but it does omit a key detail, which is that Giga would have a somewhat better chance of getting a critical blow to a vital area than assumed here. Part of this has to do with, as mentioned above, binocular vision (or lack thereof) not being that relevant in theropods, but two other things that play into this is that a) Giganotosaurus has a more flexible neck and is much more suited to accurately and quickly moving its head around (see Coria & Currie, 2003) which would help it line up for precise bites to vitals; the other thing is that even ziphodont theropods were equipped with stress-dissipating notches in their teeth, which functioned less like a steak knife and more like a set of surgical saws; as such they could (and based on coprolites and bite marks from the Morrison, did) bite through bone, just not by outright obliterating bone like the much more robust jaws of tyrannosaurids were suited for doing. This fight is basically an 50/50-the first good bite is going to decide the outcome, if not kill the loser outright, and it’s hard to argue which, if either, animal would have the better shot at that first bite (Tyrannosaurus has the agility advantage-though issues with that study indicate this would be by a smaller margin than often assumed-while Giganotosaurus has that increased head/neck mobility and is better at biting into broad surfaces, which might give it more places to bite).

@hafizurrahman1006

4 ай бұрын

Well written and agree with all of this.

@TheOverseerDebates

4 ай бұрын

I do agree that the Rex has the distinct advantage of more reliable discoveries as well as far more coverage than the Giga. Hopefully in the coming years that’ll change with the Giga getting more of the spotlight.

@bkjeong4302

4 ай бұрын

@@TheOverseerDebates There’s actually a fair bit that we know about Giga both from its actual remains and from research on allosauroids as a whole (including that specialized, Smilodon/terror bird-like neck-driven killing bite that was the hallmark of the allosauroids as a whole). The issue is that a) none of this research is in the public awareness so people pretend these features didn’t exist, and b) there’s very much a bias in academia towards studying (and inadvertently lionizing) tyrannosaurs at the expense of other theropods.

@Unbearable_Truth

4 ай бұрын

That and size comparison charts using Sue/Scotty (the oldest and largest specimen) against the Giganotosaurus holotype which isn't the biggest but the average size. The average sized Giganotosaurus is overall bigger than the average sized Tyrannosaurus.

@bkjeong4302

4 ай бұрын

@@Unbearable_Truth This as well-we have only two Giganotosaurus specimens and only one of them (the holotype) is in decent condition. Though to be honest, even if you compare Scotty against the Giga holotype the size difference isn’t so big to be decisive (Scotty is 1-1.5 tons heavier, which isn’t a lot when talking about taxa that average around 9 tons…). That study about Tyrannosaurus (but really, any megatheropod given the logic used in the study) potentially being able to get to 15 tons in rare cases that didn’t end up in the fossil record worsened this, because everyone assumed this was something that only applied to Tyrannosaurus (because it was the megatheropod used to prove the study’s argument), when it would apply even more to other giant theropods with even smaller sample sizes.

Slight nitpick: The Giga you show on the thumbnail isn't actually Giganotasaurus. The special where that image if from, and the animal that's shown, is more closely synonymous with the closely related Mapusaurus instead. Just wanted to point that out.😅

good video but i think the answer will be more clear and more to discuss when we have studied Giganotosaurus more.

@TheOverseerDebates

4 ай бұрын

I agree, hopefully in the coming years there will be more discoveries and hence research in the Giga so we can have a better and more reliable understanding of it!

@ferociousrazordino3581

4 ай бұрын

@@TheOverseerDebates it's under wraps for now so can't disclose it but i will say more research on giganotosaurus and its relatives are coming!

Amazing what a difference even a few months can make. With a huge specimen of t rex recently exceeding 13 metres, and being said to reach over 25km. This news just in from a week ago! So what does this mean? its as capable of a running speed, just as long and tall- and likely heavier than Carolinii. Its agility/locomotion was also downplayed or left out in this upload- for more on that i recommend the Goji center video "t rex vs palaeoloxodon". It shows visual animatics of how the t rex uniquely with its own centre of balance is able to sidestep, turn sharply to reposition with speed to reassess or create a vulnerability in an opponent- something no other large theropod has been proven capable of doing.

Do you play path of titans? Just asking bc you used the path of titans giga for the thumbnail

To be honest that Trex would win even if I like the giga more but Trex has stronger bite which I don’t like but that’s how life between the Giganotosaurus and taranosaurus.

I agree with you. The Giga is a capable and dangerous opponent, and it's fighting style involves running in and escaping danger repeatedly to deliver multiple bites to bleed and wear down its kill.... this would be effective against a Rex due to its higher speed and lighter weight with 3 noteworthy exceptions. 1, Rex has binocular vision and can pinpoint incoming danger and attacks with accurate depth perception, and extremely well developed hearing. 2, Rex has faster reflexes and mobility, allowing rapid and accurate responses or counters to Gigas incoming attacks. 3, the rex is a heavier set, with a bite capable of inflicting fatal damage in a single attack. So basically, the Giga can't sneak up, and its only hope is to repeatedly attack (rexes are known to survive bites from other rexes) something that has faster reflexes while escaping a devastating likely fatal counter attack. Sure the Giga could get lucky and hit an artery while escaping the first few times and win, is this likely given the specific strengths of the Rex? No, not really. and Given the Giga's lighter skeletal frame, a bite to the neck or body is likely to crunch straight through and prove catastrophic, While the Rex will more than likely be enraged after a bite or two from the Giga.

@Shafi856

4 ай бұрын

Giga is heavier than Rex not lighter 🤦

@sethnaffziger1402

4 ай бұрын

@@Shafi856 Heavier set refers to bone structure and build, not weight. Besides that, what you've asserted is by no means a definitive fact. Some individuals are bigger, some smaller... Not that it would change what I said anyway.

@rodrigopinto6676

26 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂​@@Shafi856

@Shafi856

26 күн бұрын

@@sethnaffziger1402 it's outdated. T rex is now heavier than Giga

Not mention animals would prefer to avoid conflict as much possible. But even if engage for territory , defend there young, or other resources these two big predators would try intimidating behavior like sizing each other through low grunts , below and hissing sounds until one back downs.

@rodrigopinto6676

4 ай бұрын

T. rex easy wins of course.!

Please do Utahraptor vs Polar Bear or Kodiak Bear

@Hankthestank04

4 ай бұрын

I agree cool video ideas

T.Rex: *”Stand proud Giganotosaurus, You are strong”*

Theres also 2 important factors to keep in mind when it comes to giganotosaurus which seem to go unnoticed in almost every hypothetical clash scenario. 1: The Giganotosaurus size average is determined by only a handful of fossils (chances of finding the average sized fully grown adult isnt all that high) its a bit like going to your local cemetary and diggin up 5 random human skeletons vs diggin up north of 100 graves in the next town over (which would be the t-rex source material in comparison) 2: Carcharodontosaurids are believed to have grown pretty much until they died while T-Rex had a growth cycle more similar to Humans reaching its max proportions some time in its early 20s... so the fully grown individuals would also be the most battle hardened. As for the outcome it would pretty much be a cointoss. A broken neck, severed muscles, tendons and blood vessels aswell as crushed windpipes all have the nasty sideeffect of ending up in death

@malligrub

4 ай бұрын

That's literally the opposite. It is far more likely that a handful of similarly sized fossilized specimens DO represent individuals from the average range as fossils are inherently rare and finding a +2 SD individual that is rare even in life, is vanishingly rare. If you dig up any 5 humans from anywhere and confirm they're roughly matured, chances are overwhelming that the average will end up being between 5-6 feet tall. The chances of finding multiple 7 foot tall living humans randomly together (outside a family unit or some non-random sample eg the NBA) is close to zero. Those numbers are even more remote if we're talking fossilization, where any animal dying and being fossilized is exceedingly rare in general.

@julianeder4699

4 ай бұрын

@@malligrub we are talking about an animal that is believed to have existed for north of 3 million years just look at the standard deviation in size between the romans 2000 years ago the average joe in medieval europe some fella from victorian london and a present day dude. the graph is moving up and down depending on many factors in our surroundings. Im only aware of 2 giganotosaurus specimens that were unearthed (not quite sure how closely they lived together in terms of time) and they varied massively in terms of size while the dozens of t rex remains paint a pretty clear picture of the average size while also providing some decent insight into the max proportions they could reach with individuals like scotty leading the chart. Once again another important factor to consider is that carcharodontosaurids are believed to have grown all throughout their life which makes accurate estimations on their size (if they were to live out their days) a lot harder.

@rodrigopinto6676

26 күн бұрын

T rex easy wins ​@@julianeder4699

Guys, T-Rexes are taller than giganotosaurus! when they founded Giga the femur was longer, yes. But the complete femur + tibia length is actually longer on t-rexes plus their pose is more upwards than the gigas

@GigaIsBetter

11 күн бұрын

T. Rex isn't taller than Giganotosaurus

Yo overseer can you do majungasaurus crenatissimus vs arctotherium engustidens or carnotaurus sastrei vs arctotherium engustiden or could you do livyatan melvelai vs otodus megalodon or otodus megalodon vs mosasaurus

Top 10 largest Theropods dinosaurs 2024 1. Tyrannosaurus rex- 11.7 tonnes 2. Giganotosaurus- 10.2 tonnes 3. Mcraeencies- 8.8 tonnes 4. Mapusaurus- 8.4 tonnes 5. Spinosaurus- 8.3 tonnes 6. Saurophaganax- 8.3 tonnes 7. Carcharodontosaurus- 8.2 tonnes 8. Sauroniops- 7.6 tonnes 9. Tyrannotitan- 7.5 tonnes 10. Bahariasaurus- 7.1 tonnes

Good video and far from another rex bias spree I've seen parroted over and over. It's very good to see notation that there is that giant titanosaurs potentially up to Argentinosaurus' size did exist with Giganoto as the "T-REX Mafia" as I call the extreme fans seem to have taken to parroting that Giganotosaurus was only hunting small game. The earlier argentine giant just hasn't been classified. Last I am aware, it likely was the case they coexisted.

@rodrigopinto6676

4 ай бұрын

T. rex easily wins of course.!

@rodrigopinto6676

4 ай бұрын

Totally wrong giganotosaurus carolinii coexisted with only medium size prey like limaysaurus or andesaurus.!

@bennettfender9927

4 ай бұрын

@@rodrigopinto6676Actually we have partial remains of a large sauropod in the Candeleros formation that hasn’t been named yet that was similar in size to Patagotitan and Argentinosaurs.

@Tarbtano

4 ай бұрын

@@rodrigopinto6676 Next time, watch the video.

@rodrigopinto6676

4 ай бұрын

@@Tarbtano Poor ignorant

Well if the giganotosaurus is smart and is able to get to the Trex neck…Giving the giganotosaurus an advantage of winning…..but who knows.

Even though I like both animals a lot, the T. rex wins indisputably. It can incapacitate and kill the Giganotosaurus carolinii with one or two bites. It would be extremely painful to have his bones broken or exploded by this Tyrannosaurus.

❤

Just by reading the comments, it's devolved into "my favorite is better than your favorite.". Honestly, these were living animals that 9/10 times would've never fought in the first place. Since predators know even a small injury could lead to death due to infection or the inability to hunt and then would starve. Unfortunately until more research is done on other megatheropods, we won't know as much as we know about T.Rex. Not to mention, they were designed to hunt completely different prey and had different hunting tatics. I hate these "debates" because dinosaurs are not custom-made cage fighters. Who cares who is stronger? Better yet, ask why that particular dinosaur is your favorite? Hopefully, you'll get a better answer than "cause it's not T.Rex.". Lol, ya'll have a good day.

@rodrigopinto6676

26 күн бұрын

T rex easy wins

@GatDaddy27

18 күн бұрын

I completely agree with you

Good analysis ultimately the giga had speed and the T-Rex 🦖 had bulk it’s very close but I agree T-Rex 🦖 wins atleast mid-high difficulty

@rodrigopinto6676

26 күн бұрын

T rex easy wins

@GatDaddy27

18 күн бұрын

@@rodrigopinto6676 Are you a toddler?

How much force would it take to permanently warp a modern MBT’s barrel? Just curious 👀

Sure, Trex would likely win against spino... unless of course... Spino got him in the water lol. Now Rex vs Giga, i still feel could go either way.

I reckon it's completely 50/50

@Dark-Hammer

3 ай бұрын

Nah

@Youfattyboy

3 ай бұрын

@@Dark-Hammer yes

@Dark-Hammer

3 ай бұрын

@@Youfattyboy bro

Always good dinosaur content here, Don't even need Netflix for it

Suggestion Lion vs Gorilla, Tiger vs grizzly bear, Lion vs black bear and Polar bear vs Bison

one more thing about speed is explained by Paleontologist David Hone during a lecture that the foot of the T Rex is differently designed than every single theropod closer in weight to T Rex, as the center part of the foot shrinks in the upper end, that type of foot is called the Arctometatarsalian Condition, and only 3 groups of dinosaurs have these feet, and all coelurosaurs, the Troodontids, the Ornithomimids, and the Tyrannosaurs, these feet are perfectly adapted for the animals to be extremely efficient in quick turns, energy saving, maintaining one speed consistently for several hours, the best feet for long distance travels and etc.

@aymen_b1267

4 ай бұрын

Yes, Trex agility is overlooked and underrated.

If you guys in the comments are gonna make arguments about either dinosaur winning, I’d recommend not having the dinosaur in your username or profile pic because you will not look reputable

@kingofprehistory7851

4 ай бұрын

Well that sucks ._.

There are some folks here who think that the study which found that Tyrannosaurus is twice as agile as Giganotosaurus isn't accurate or is a stretch due to one of the paper's sources being the outdated 4.2 tonne estimate for Giga; people like this conveniently ignore the fact that the Giga's mass in the paper was stated to be ~7 tonnes - and while it is outdated it still isn't that far of a gap from the 8.4-tonne estimate used for the holotype today. In fact, more mass would equate to Giga's agility suffering even further due to needing to overcome that extra mass lol. The conclusions of Tyrannosaurs turning 2x faster than Allosaurs and other Theropods mostly stems from the actual fossilized evidence on their legs and tails and gauging ideas of muscle attachments and ligaments - the skeletals are just add-ons. It doesn't matter if we use a 5 tonne Giganotosaurus skeletal or a 7 Giganotosaurus skeletal with muscle attachments (Or if we use a deflated 8.4 tonne Tyrannosaurus or a 9.5 tonne Tyrannosaurus, or a 10.2 tonne Tyrannosaurus), Tyrannosaurus' actual fossilized evidence and attachment gauges makes Tyrannosaurus more agile, and by twice the amount. Therefore, a 2x difference is not a "Stretch" as some people here like to claim.

U got 1 THING wrong and thats the height, Trex is currently tought to be taller with giga being 3.7 and rex being 3.8

@GigaIsBetter

11 күн бұрын

The T. Rex was not taller than giga, the Giganotosaurus grew between 12-14 feet tall and the rex 11-12.

I'd say the T.Rex wins 55-65% of the time. I would not give the Tyrant Lizard King agility, agility is also determined by speed and also since the neck and head movements are quicker on Giga it would show better agility.

@kingofprehistory7851

14 күн бұрын

Not really since rotational inertia exists in which t rex does have it better off. Neck movement here isn't the most major contributing factor, these two could dorsiflex and laterally flex their necks. Faster doesn't really dictate more agile like in abelisaurs such as carnotaurus. The two aren't really associates or correlated definitely or neccesarily

Tyrannosaurus rex vs Giganotosaurus carolinii 2024 Tyrannosaurus rex stats Specimen- BHI 6248 Height- 4.1m at the hips Length- 12.8 meters ( 42 ft) Weight- 11,740 kgs ( 11.7 tonnes) Bite force- 7 tonnes Era- Late cretaceous America Giganotosaurus stats Specimen- mucpV-95 Height- 4.2m at the hips Length- 13.5 meters ( 45 ft) Weight- 10,260 kgs ( 10.2 tonnes) Bite force- 4.3 tonnes Era- mid cretaceous South America Tyrannosaurus advantages- bigger, bulkier, more muscular & stronger, more agile, more powerful bite force , intelligence Giganotosaurus advantages- taller , faster, more experience, Serrated teeth Verdict: Tyrannosaurus rex- 65% Giganotosaurus- 35% Winner- Tyrannosaurus rex 🦖 🏆 ( 65% chance or mid-high diff)

Yellowstone hyperpredator vs Meg when?

@Dinosaur_Guy

4 ай бұрын

Try not to mention unconfirmed and undescribed animal challenge:

@frost7463

4 ай бұрын

Mei when he uses an undescribed animal in AvA

@Mei23448

4 ай бұрын

@@Dinosaur_Guy try not to calmuny me challenge:

@Mei23448

4 ай бұрын

@@frost7463 I already published it kid

@frost7463

4 ай бұрын

@@Mei23448 link

bro this mf is just making piece with all t-rex vs giga fans not just these fans even other mega therapod lovers i love you man keep up the vids

But Trex would probably low diff or medium diff

@GatDaddy27

18 күн бұрын

No, high diff. Any bite to an important area would usually mean the end to the fight, any fight with another successful apex predator of similar size will be high difficulty.

Tbh I would’ve liked to see great white vs salt water croc far more to be fr

I am a bit confused why people thinks that large predator dinosaurs like T-Rex would have been unable to kill prey much larger then themself? Plenty of modern predators are capable of taking out prey many times their own size and they don't even have the over sized bite weapons of a T-Rex.

@GigaIsBetter

11 күн бұрын

Maybe because it wasn't built for that type of stuff, it was built for taking things it's size or a tad bigger. But Giganotosaurus on the other hand, thanks to it's impressive strength and bleeding bites, it would have taken down sauropods rivaling the size of argentinosaurus and some other sauropods smaller

I would say tyrannosaurus wins mid-high difficulty

@rodrigopinto6676

4 ай бұрын

No T. rex easy wins

I will note an error you made, We technically have zero evidence of a giganotosaurus over 9 tons, The other specimen with the piece of jaw and teeth is beyond unreliable for weight, Therefor it’s not very fair to give it a 10.4 ton weight the same way it isn’t fair to give a tyrannosaurus a 15 ton weight Also tyrannosaurus had sharp teeth, Which means it could have bled out prey easily like giga🤷 It’s not a video game either these battles go out beyond quickly so that “Bleed” Wouldn’t matter

@bkjeong4302

4 ай бұрын

Tyrannosaurus didn’t have sharper teeth. It’s teeth don’t even have proper cutting edges (serrations are offset to the sides).

@GEK0dev

4 ай бұрын

@@bkjeong4302 It had over double the amount of serrations that giga had, They were also sharper serrations

@bkjeong4302

4 ай бұрын

@@GEK0dev Yeah going to need sources on that?

@GEK0dev

4 ай бұрын

@@bkjeong4302 I’ve tried posting one but KZread keeps deleting my dang comments every time I try🫠 Classic KZread moment

@richie_0740

4 ай бұрын

@@GEK0dev yeah no, T-Rex's teeth are peg shaped and broad, not having a great cutting edges, compare that to giganotosaurus that have a narrower knife like teeth with a better defined cutting edges

Spinosaurus is looking at this fight, knowing its a fight for second place . Spino number 1, it lived with (basically) a giga , in charchar, and spino is now back to being a land based predator , yet it even outlasted the charchar, showing its land dominance. And in the water it had to compete alongside sarco sized crocs, yet it STILL thrived for 10 million years, TRIPLE that of rex, and TWICE that of charchar. There is also a private specimen of a spino tooth embedded in an ADULT charchar vertebrae, with tooth and claw marks that showed NO SIGNS of healing, meaning the charchar was killed. That tells it all. People might not like it, especially after the 2014 study that has been completely debunked in almost every way now. Spino fights megatheropods for a living.

@hunterglaspell

4 ай бұрын

Kind of irrelevant to compare duration of time Rex’s were around to spinosaurus given we don’t know how long Rex’s would have continued if the k2 extinction didnt happen.

@niallmoseley6760

4 ай бұрын

@@hunterglaspell while i do generally agree, a fact is still a fact. Also there are studies suggesting rex numbers were dwindling before the k2 anyway. As were many late cretaceous dinos.

@hunterglaspell

4 ай бұрын

@@niallmoseley6760 what fact? Spinosaurus changes drastically every few months with a new paper release, so saying it was land dominant is generous at best given most of the studies have been throwing ideas at a wall with the limited data we have from the fossil record and seeing what sticks. The mere existence of another apex predator like charchars in the same environment is due to niche partitioning, meaning both animals probably preyed on different prey items. Spinosaurus being at the very least semi aquatic and certainly more piscivorous suggests charchars were more capable on land than spinosaurus was. Also, a single fossil example of spinosaurus getting the upper hand in a fight does NOT say it all, as with most fights in nature, whatever gets the first hit is likely to win that encounter. I think it unwise to extrapolate those findings further, even if you are a spinosaurus fan. Finally, there are many factors that can lead to a decline in a taxa, much of which doesn’t mean an inferiority of one species to another on an individual basis. Despite what recent documentaries have portrayed *cough* Life on Our Planet *cough* that’s not how evolution works. Spinosaurus was more diverse in its diet to that of charchars, so a decline in charchars could have been due to an overall decline in their primary prey item, whereas spinosaurus had much more to choose from, leading to a longer track record on earth.

@niallmoseley6760

4 ай бұрын

@@hunterglaspell ok so the largest most dominant carnivorous birds(closest related of theropod dinos) is the pleican and the albatross which are ecclusive fish eaters. The largest land predators are grizzlt brown bears and polars bears which are also fish eaters. So fish waters are usually the largest predators in nature. Spinosaurus had the densenst bones of all land theropods and was land based. So dense bones and fish eater = largest predaror. Wirhout biaseness riwards rex, spino had denser bones and had a more pro-size diet for a theropod and land predator. Theres only one real answer and that is spino was the biggest and baddest if all the theropoids ... it had to be.

@hunterglaspell

4 ай бұрын

@@niallmoseley6760 brother, you need to slow down when you type, trying to decode half of what you say is a task itself. Modern animals aren’t always a great analog to understand the behaviors and traits of extinct animals. Phylogenetic bracketing can only get you so far. Environmental factors heavily influence traits of a species. It’s why convergent evolution happens in nature. You can deduce a lot about the strengths and weaknesses of a predator by looking at the prey items they go after. Though diversity in dinosaurs 10 million years and leading up to the K-T extinction seemed to be on a decline, the defenses of herbivores were at their best, with dinosaurs like Ankylosaurus being literal biological tank. It is no surprise to me that tyrannosaurus was not only one of the most well rounded predators in earths history as a result, but that diversity in tyrannosaurs wasn’t needed because it was just that dang good at being an apex predator. The different stages of a Rex’s life were all the ecosystem needed to primarily fill all of the ecological niches. Spinosaurus was specialized in fish, and you are correct that a lot of apex predators today also prey on fish. That being said, fish as a prey item doesn’t indicate inferiority of any animal that doesn’t prey on fish. To be certain, if spinosaurus and tyrannosaurus met in real life, it would have likely been a 50/50 as with most equality sized animals getting into fights. Spinosaurus was not that much larger than tyrannosaurus, with some weight estimates being that less of tyrannosaurus. There just really isn’t any much of a size difference for it to make a difference in who would have an upper hand. Spinosaurus had longer arms, tyrannosaurus has mass, agility, and strength. Each have reasons they should win, but it all comes down to who lands the first hit. Cheers 🍻

I vote for the REX.

In Dino Crisis 2, the Giganotosaurus dwarved the T-rex enough for it to carry the T-rex into its mouth and beat it in a battle.

@thegreatestjagrasm

4 ай бұрын

The og ark giga

@bkjeong4302

4 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s going way too far to the other extreme.

@KyoushaPumpItUp

4 ай бұрын

@@bkjeong4302 Dino Crisis 2 really made me think that Giganotosaurus was that big compared to the T. Rex.

@thedinohunter212

4 ай бұрын

@@KyoushaPumpItUpthe dc2 giga was actually mutated its really confusing

@Dinoslay

4 ай бұрын

That rex sure got yeeted.

Tyrannosaurus vs Giganotosaurus is *NOT* close

First up I'd like to say great video mate, love ya stuff! Secondly I value everyone's opinion. But I'm a simple man and what I see before me are two monstrous skulls, one a giant rock with bollards for teeth the other a gargantuan set of slashing scissors. Rock beats scissors.😊

T rex by 10% but its close.

giga=20+ mph, Rex=17mph

Giga gang

@TheOverseerDebates

4 ай бұрын

Congrats on being the first comment!

@Mei23448

4 ай бұрын

@@TheOverseerDebates Yellowstone hyperpredator vs Meg when?

50/50 as the Giga & T rex both weights 10-11 tons and both are very strong predator for their sizes and weaponrys to kill each other. E. D. Cope wins . 10.5 tons Giga slams mcraeensies rex mid diff as it has been downsized to 8 tons and it's a much smaller and nerfed T rex and Giga destroys any other Tyrannosaurids ( Tarbo, Zhucheng, Alamotyrannus etc) low to no difficulty.

@Unbearable_Truth

4 ай бұрын

E.D Cope is no long reliable given its conditions. People thought MOR 008 was 15m and 15 tonnes a decade ago which turned out to be the opposite. Giga might have reached 10 tonnes but Sue and Scotty? Probably not. The weight estimates for Sue, adding the 382 L hindlimbs to the 9294 L axial body gives 10,058 L (~9555 kg at 0.95 SG) using the same method cited above for the holotype. As for Scotty, it might well be similar in size to Sue, (John Hutcherson has mentioned) or perhaps smaller if the torso length from scaling laterals of its mounts is correct. It’s femora, hips, etc. are bigger sure, but a shorter trunk would do a lot to offset it.

@DinoFan1993

4 ай бұрын

🤓

@kingofprehistory7851

4 ай бұрын

​@Unbearable_Truth E.D.Cope not being reliable would also mean that the dentary giga is taken out of account. Using sue, Scott and comparing them to the holotype would yield an 8+ ton animal, that being the giga, against an animal which conservatively fits the 9.5 ton range and in scotties case, roughly 10.4 tonnes

@Tyrannosaurus_rex.

4 ай бұрын

​@@Unbearable_Truthtell me you hate Tyrannosaurus without telling me you hate Tyrannosaurus. Scotty was definetly over 10 tonnes, and E.D.COPE is far more reliable than any Giga paratype estimate, it is the 10 tonne Giga that should be questioned.

@TyrannusX

4 ай бұрын

@@Unbearable_Truth Please respond to my issue on the previous comment, you gave yet to give the specimen name of a 10t Giganotosaurus

And when did rexs bite get buffed to 13,834

Roland Tembo stomps both.

I agree, Tyrannosaurus Rex would win. However I don't think this would be very close.

I thought this was made year ago lol

I don't normally think of battling dinosaurs. When I do, I think of something like lion prides facing down packs of hyenas - the potential violence is there, but whoever has a significant mass/ratio in the confrontation is going to chase off the other with minor issues. Predators avoid being hurt, when they can. Your real dangerous confrontations come, not over food, but mates... And that's iffy with different species. Still, most battles I've seen between various birds are over mating privileges and nesting territories. I've found male hummingbirds impaling each other. And watched a Robin beat its rival to death over a solid ten minutes of combat.

I think I'd rate T-Rexes vs. Giganotosauruses, the same way I would rate Smilodons (or other Sabertooth cats) vs. Panthera big cats, such as American/European lions or tigers. Sabertooth cats (and T-rex) were build for fighting. They were stronger, bigger, heavier, more dexterous etc. Where as, Panthera cats (and subsequently Giganotosauruses) were build for more efficient hunting.

Carcha better than both

@hafizurrahman1006

4 ай бұрын

Giganotosaurus, Mapusaurus, Tyrannotitan & Saurophaganax > Carcharodontosaurus

@ghostysmokesweed9628

4 ай бұрын

Trex better

There are too many things you glossed over with more to it. For starters: 1) Why didn't you use the speed study by Van Bijlert? It's the latest one and it estimates Tyrannosaurus at 4 - 6 mph with 11mph brisk speed bursts. 2) There is no evidence that Tyrannosaurus hunted Alamosaurus. Same thing going head to head with Triceratops or Ankylosaurus. Pack hunting is theorized given how dangerous those herbivores were. 3) Tyrannosaurus had a large brain mainly because that majority portion was dedicated to smell. I remember the intelligence papers that came out for Baryonyx and it was that far off from Tyrannosaurus. 4) It's highly likely than Carcharadontosaurids are heavier than Tyrannosaurids based on the Fabbri 2022 bone density study. The estimated mass for MUCPv-ch1, using a density of 0.95 kg/L (Larramendi, Paul, & Hsu, 2020), would be around ~8.17 tonnes which is higher than other average sized Tyrannosaurus. (Stan is 7 tonnes) MUCPV-95, it's latest measures are 6.6% at bare minimum bigger than the holotype, which gives a weight that rivals, if not exceeding Sue/Scotty. Giganotosaurus is overall the larger theropod between the two.

@niocriste2705

4 ай бұрын

Do you think that it's 80-90% in favor of the Giganotosaurus?

@Alex-dr2lp

4 ай бұрын

Angry giga fanboy

@bkjeong4302

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I seriously doubt Tyrannosaurus was that slow. Last time I checked both theropods were able to move at around 30kmh.

@kingofprehistory7851

4 ай бұрын

T rex was likely faster ngl, that's a massive lowball

@MonsterZilla452

4 ай бұрын

​@@niocriste2705cry over the fax rex fanboy.

I love how this debate is more civil with people actually using real stats and studies Way better than the Rex vs spino debates from the early 2010s 😂

@extraordinarytv5451

4 ай бұрын

Oh lord that takes me back to the discussions under the Movieclips (i think it was them) T. rex vs. Spinosaurus video☠️

@MonsterZilla452

4 ай бұрын

Because of internet growth most people now know the real sizes & stats of these animals instead of saying Giga is 15 tons and oneshots Rex

People really need to understand it takes more than bite force to win a fight. T-Rex do have more than that to win but it’s also smart. Seeing an animal almost equal to it in size and dimension would not want to risk it

I wouldnt say its close at all Biggest Giga is about 8.5 tons not counting the fragmentary dentary 10,1 ton giga biggest rex is 11,4 tons thats almost 4 tons difference rexes are bigger, stronger, smarter, more battle experienced, more agile and just more evolved you can say giga dosent really stand much of a chance against a rex, if its max size rex and max size giga (without the dentary one as its very fragmentary and pretty unreliable pretty sure) then rex wins with low difficulty if its average 9 ton rex and a max size giga then its a mid maybe medium high diff for rex

@MonsterZilla452

4 ай бұрын

Biggest Giganotosaurus is 10.4 tons & 13.6 meters ( paratype) and it has confirmed actual GDI of 10+ tons. Biggest Tyrannosaurus is currently 10.45 tons Scotty. ( E.D. Cope is highly controversial not to mention it has no confirmed 11+ tons GDI. Randomdinos estimates placed it at 10.65 tons & 12.3 meters)

@Mike_The_Allosaurus

4 ай бұрын

the dentary giga is also controversiala and ED cope has estimates above 11 tons@@MonsterZilla452

@Why79-dx4rf

4 ай бұрын

​@@Mike_The_Allosaurus 1: 8.5 tons is 2.9 less then 11.4, not even three, much less almost four, so even using your numbers, that is an absurd claim. 2: if the goal is an accurate comparison between the two species, and were discounting the giganotosaurus paratype, why not use a more average sized t rex specimen to compare to the giganotosaurus holotype? Is it becuase then the multi ton advantage almost disappears, and no t rex fanboy can have that? 3: intelligence is almost impossible to determine for extinct animals, so while one could say t rex was likely smarter then giganotosaurus, saying it for certain, or attempting to give any specifics would be impossible. 4: what do you mean by battle experience? If it's the experience accrued over the life time of the animal, giganotosaurus lived twice as long as t rex, and as such the average adult giganotosaurus likely had far more experience then the average adult t rex. 5: agility is multi faceted, and t rexs only possed the advantage in just one part of it, so saying t rexs was more agile is at best a half truth. 6: what do you mean more evolved? If it's time, is a house cat more evolved then t rex. 7: define low/mid difficulty. Are you saying t rex would win 70% 80% 90% etc.

@hafizurrahman1006

4 ай бұрын

Mf comparing a reliable giga with an unreliable Rex lmao🤓👆. Just to remind you Giga holotype is 8.8-9 tonnes Rex holotype ( Stan) is 7.5 tonnes

@Mike_The_Allosaurus

4 ай бұрын

the dentary giga is nowhere near reliable lol its very fragmentary mf and the weight can be rreally off the limits, the giga holotype is 8.4 tons and rexes average 8-9 tons in weight lmao@@hafizurrahman1006

Given the size and bulk of these animals, I imagine they would just go direct jaw-to-jaw at each other, sort of like how Jack and Stumpy was fighting in Dinosaur Revolution. In that scenario, it is difficult to imagine any Theropods would be able to stand up the T-rex. T-rex's massively-built jaw and neck, significantly more so than any Theropods in its weight class, are perfectly designed for this sort of frontal and direct confrontation. The best chance for the Giganotosaurus is to outmaneuver the T-rex and latch on its side. However, the Rex is much more agile and has better eyesight, so I am not sure how the Giga could pull this off. Maybe if the Rex accidently trips on a rock or something, then the Giga could win.

gigas probably came in packs, the rex aint...

@kingofprehistory7851

14 күн бұрын

Pretty sure this is a 1v1. And t rex do likely either have family groups or could mob

"Let's push out the clear loser?" EH!?! Spinosaurus would WRECK T. Rex just by being confusing and shape-shifting the whole battle lol

@kailanerman5090

4 ай бұрын

😂 Trex: ...what the hell are you? Spinosaurus is standing in the river, continuing to shape change and now crying. Spino: I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT I AM ANYMORE....

@Dinoslay

4 ай бұрын

T.rex: 🤯

@rolandixor

4 ай бұрын

@@Dinoslay"This isn't even my final form... or my form at all"

@Steam537

3 ай бұрын

The spino would be like 20 tones then the next second boom 6-7 tones lol

@kailanerman5090

3 ай бұрын

@Steam537 spino: Hey guys!!! Check out the new weight gain, huh? Who's top theropod in weight now!? Giga and Rex attempt to clap Sudden flash of light. Rex: What just happened? Wait... where's your fresh girth? Spino begins to cry. Giga tries to comfort him, but he turns away with his floppy tail. He flees to the river in violent waves of tears. Giga and Rex just stare...

How about a video about Appalachiosaurus? Eastern dinosaurs are underrepresented. Western dinosaurs are highly overrated.

The giga in a way was built to be a glass canon

Holotype Giganotosaurus is 12.7 metres & 9.02 tonnes not 12.4

I'll never get used to his british accent.

giga would win

@classicgalactica5879

4 ай бұрын

Malarkey.

I would love to see how these 2 amazing apex predators would have interacted with each other. Now obviously these animals would avoid conflict whenever possible, and even if they did get into a conflict with one another, it would have most likely been a threat display until one of them backed down (which I’m curious how that would go). But if a fight were to break out, it really is a SUPER close fight. Both have distinct advantages over the other that can end the fight in a single bite. Certainly would be a battle for the ages. Also why Spino gotta catch the stray 😭. He good boyo doing good boyo things like eating pheesh

@ThePunisher-si8ex

4 ай бұрын

Yomamasaurus the winner,IMHO

Giganotosaurus carolinii stats Height- 4.1m at hips Length- 13.6 meters ( 45 ft) Weight- 10.4 tonnes Bite force- 3.9 tonnes Specimen- Mmchpv-95 Giganotosaurus chances against other megatheropods 1. Carnotaurus~ 2.2 tonnes ( Giga wins no diff) 2. Allosaurus~ 4.6 tonnes ( Giga wins neg diff) 3. Torvosaurus~ 5.5 tonnes ( Giga wins no-low diff) 4. Acrocanthosaurus~ 5.8 tonnes ( Giga wins low diff) 5. Spinosaurus~ 7.8-8.3 tonnes ( Giga wins low-mid diff) 6. Deinocheirus~ 8.4 tonnes ( Giga wins low-mid diff) 7. Carcharodontosaurus~ 8.2 tonnes ( Giga wins mid diff) 8. Saurophaganax~8.3-8.9 tonnes ( Giga wins mid-high diff) 9. Mcraeencis rex~ 8.8 tonnes ( Giga wins mid high diff) 10. Final round Tyrannosaurus rex vs Giganotosaurus Stan~ 7.6 tonnes ( average Rex) ( Giga wins low-mid diffs) Sue~ 10 tonnes & Giga~ 10.4 tonnes ( Giga wins extreme diff) Scotty ~ 10.4 tonnes & Giga~ 10.4 tonnes ( 50/50) or Tyrannosaurus extreme diff. ( E.D. cope is an unreliable fragmentary+ it's size hasn't confirmed yet so should be ignored).

@Sum_dudewith_faith

4 ай бұрын

It's not an extreme diff trex takes it midd diff even if the giga has a one or two ton advantage

@GEK0dev

4 ай бұрын

Two errors, One is the 10.4 giga is beyond unreasonable for an actual weight estimate as it doesn’t have any evidence behind it besides teeth and a piece of the mandible and that could scale up or drastically down depending on other bones found, Second off, A tyrannosaur north of 9 tons would more then likely wash a Giga in a fight, There legitimately, Is nothing a Giga can do besides getting lucky

@theskyis_black9074

4 ай бұрын

That Deinocheirus size estimate is outdated, the same person who did the GDI confirmed it was too wide and stated 7.1 tonnes is more reasonable.

@theskyis_black9074

4 ай бұрын

@@GEK0dev Why not say something about the Saurophaganax size estimate as well? It's based on Leviathan, which is a mashup of 2 extremely fragmentary specimen. He also used E.D Cope at the end, which doesn't have an actual GDI as of now, but Randomdinos put it at 10.65 tonnes.

@GEK0dev

4 ай бұрын

@@theskyis_black9074 Dang I didn’t even notice that, And ofc yea cope I think most people put around 10.56 to 11.2 tons or so or somewhere in that range, I think this guy gave giga WAYYY to much credit, I don’t see a giga managing to kill anything like sue

T rex wins mid diff It's too overpowered for a giga to handle

@IceG52

4 ай бұрын

Nah.

@BrendonjacobDedace

4 ай бұрын

This fight is like sapiens vs neanderthal or leopard vs jaguar.

I would like a battle between some prey animals that T Rex hunted and have them fight Giganotosaurus, Spinosaurus, and Carcharodontosaurus, such as Spinosaurus vs Triceratops, Mapusaurus vs Ankylosaurus, Carcharodontosaurus vs Torosaurus(dinosaur related to and coexisted with Triceratops, but had a bigger head and frill).

@richie_0740

4 ай бұрын

if i were to make a guess, is that the Giga would fair actually quite well against the large hardosaurs and the ceratopsian given that it can surprise the latter, Giga is used to hunt contemporary sauropods that was regularly being closed to the size or even multiple times larger than the theropods itself, as for ankylosaurus it was simply too tough of a nut to crack

@notmyrealchannel559

4 ай бұрын

@@richie_0740 I forgot to mention Alamosaurus, a titanosaur that T Rex had encountered occasionally, and weighed over 50+ tons, and may have hunted juvenile Alamosaurus(even though there is nothing to truly prove that yet) or feed on an old adult Alamosaurus that died of old age like seen Prehistoric Planet just last year. because large powerful tyrannosaur teeth had been found on Alamosaurus specimens.

@notmyrealchannel559

4 ай бұрын

@@richie_0740 but the biggest dinosaur Giga has hunted, the Andesaurus, is only 1 metric ton heavier than the Bertha specimen of T Rex, so its not as impressive as its later successor, the Mapusaurus who hunted the biggest dinosaur so far, the Argentinosaurus.

@richie_0740

4 ай бұрын

@@notmyrealchannel559 this only shows feeding behavior, not active predation of alamosaurus by tyrannosaurus rex, Alamosaurus were found so far back south that Tyrannosaurus range rarely overlapped, not as common as something like andesaurus and argentinosaurus which were smack dab in the middle of giant carcharodontosaurid territory

@richie_0740

4 ай бұрын

@@notmyrealchannel559 there is a specimens recently found in 1999 and described as recent as last year, of a giant titanosaur specimen in the candeleros, scaling from patagotitan and similar titanosaur reveal that this animal would be close to 70+ metric tonnes, and has been dubbed the candeleros titan

rex slams and its not even close 👍

Bruh giga fans are seething

While I would give it to T-rex by a very slim margin, I would say T-rex is not leaving the fight in a good shape either. But realistically if these two did size each other up, likely they would not have a fight, maybe a stare down and then back away. Since well Real Life animals don't get into unneeded fight to the deaths unless it's a hunt or have no choice. It's a more of a human thing to go have fights which can cripple you.

@rodrigopinto6676

4 ай бұрын

Tyrannosaurus rex easy wins of course

My favorite part of these videos' comment sections is scrolling down from the multiple paragraph long comments explaining the science and modern research behind each competitor, then getting an immediate shift to "[insert unrelated fighter here] victims" comments. Jurassic Park Dilophosaurus piloted by human level intelligence victims, btw.

It's only close if you know next to nothing about either animal. It's not close. At all. Trex wins. Every time.

@Unbearable_Truth

4 ай бұрын

Still posting fanboy comments huh? You already got proven wrong on plenty of topics. You're a biased T.rex fanboy. Plain and simple.

@kingofprehistory7851

4 ай бұрын

T rex wins but it ain't easy breh

@KurNorock

4 ай бұрын

@@Unbearable_Truth 1. i have no idea who you are or why you are following me around KZread. 2. I haven't been proven wrong about anything concerning dinosaurs. 3. I'm not a trex fanboy. I'm a dinosaur fanboy. I care about the truth.

@KurNorock

4 ай бұрын

@kingofprehistory7851 yes, it would have been easy. The strength, toughness, and fighting experience of the trex trumps anything the giganotosaurus could bring in a one on one fight.

@kingofprehistory7851

4 ай бұрын

@@KurNorock not neccesarily. Both were of a similar mass and had different forms of mobility. While the rex would've won high diff its not "easy" by any means

Trex wins neg diff

@IceG52

4 ай бұрын

🤡

@MonsterZilla452

4 ай бұрын

Not even in dreams boy. It's high extreme diff for Tyrannosaurus if it ever wins

@Sum_dudewith_faith

4 ай бұрын

Its midd diff still trex takes the win

@MonsterZilla452

4 ай бұрын

​@@Sum_dudewith_faithhigh-extreme lol. Rex mid diffs carcharodontosaurus and Giga is 2 tons bigger than Carcharodontosaurus.

@Sum_dudewith_faith

4 ай бұрын

@@MonsterZilla452 Even if giga had a two ton weight advantage over a trex the trex would still win weight does play roll in a fight but the trex's bite is just simply too devastating for anything to survive Not counting the battle experience and the battle iq advantage the t rex has

Considering Carcharadontosaurs lived in North America during the Cretacious along with early Tyrannosaurs. I'm sure there were conflicts between the two species. But it does make me wonder what happened to the Carcharadontosaurs.

I´m gonna sound like a fanboy, but i don´t see any good advantage in a Battle situation in favor of the Giga, whats´he gonna do? try to land a lot of bites and bleed the tank? Rex needs one good bite, ONE, and is more agile, smarter and had better vision. Also, remember it could ram with his head, unike the Giga. The size factor is also a big one, back some years ago we thought Sue was the biggest Rex and Rexes that size where highly uncommon, fast forward some years and we have scotty, Cope and Bertha wich indicates giant rexes where not that uncommon. Take Cope for a second, do people realize we have way more evidence of Cope been 11.5t+ than we have of a 10t+ Giga?, and that is not the upper (or max) limit... and it´s said Bertha was bigger. For the Giga to equal in mass Sue, the dentary specimen would have to fit whitin the margins of max estimate of 13.5 mts and still Sue would have some extra kilos on it, given 10.4T is the max estimate done for the animal, been more likely about 9.5... For the Giga to equal Cope it´d had to be way long, like spinosaurus max estimates of long. And in a battle where your foe has all of the advantages over you SIZE MATTERS.

@bkjeong4302

4 ай бұрын

Giga ALSO only needs one good bite: predators that kill by bleeding out prey kill far more quickly than most people realize. The idea Tyrannosaurus has better eyesight and better intelligence is based on outdated lines of thinking that only cling on in palaeontology due to a failure to cross-reference with modern understanding of living animals (see my comments elsewhere for this). Giga could also ram (Mark Witton’s post on ramming theropods specifically mentions carcharodontosaurs AND tyrannosaurs as both being well-suited for ramming, even if 99% of people only noticed the second part)

@antoniocenteno1483

4 ай бұрын

Giga would need one bite IF it actually had the haw strength, but it didn't. It need a lot. All the studies still point to Rex been smarter, and it is no secret the Rex had waaaay better eyesight, is on the eye position dude. I've never heard Giga could ram, at least not to the extents of the Rex

@bkjeong4302

4 ай бұрын

@@antoniocenteno1483 it doesn’t need a lot of jaw strength to kill with one bite when the majority of the strength behind its bite is coming from its NECK, not its jaws. Those studies on vision you keep referencing are based on OUTDATED ideas about how binocular vision works in non-mammals. They’ve failed to reference various studies that indicate forward-facing eyes are not important for visual accuracy in birds (which are theropod dinosaurs). Same with intelligence: all the studies arguing Tyrannosaurus was super smart compared to other theropods are based on OUTDATED ideas about intelligence in living animals (and the infamous study about it being as smart as a baboon has already been disproven). This whole idea of Tyrannosaurus ramming things was kicked off by Mark Witton, whose post on the idea specifically points out that large predatory theropods as a whole were good for ramming, not tyrannosaurs specifically.

@rodrigopinto6676

4 ай бұрын

@@bkjeong4302again stop misinforming pathetic.!

@Unbearable_Truth

4 ай бұрын

@@antoniocenteno1483 Cope is on the same page as MOR 008 (larger skull) and that got disproved years ago. The Giganotosaurus dentary piece is at the very least studied and has backing from paleontologists. Is it completely reliable? No. But you can make the exact same argument for Scotty being 65% complete and is debatable being a bit lighter than Sue.

Hard to keep your distance and land bites on an opponent that's both stronger and more agile than you. Giga's all hype, where T-Rex just keeps delivering year after year. Every time we think we've figured out its limits, we find a bigger one. We have so much T Rex material, and so little material from other mega-therapods like Giganotosaurus that any kind of intelligent comparison is impossible.

@richie_0740

4 ай бұрын

keep in mind that T-Rex fossils have been found since 1907, which the holotype specimens for Giganotosaurus is recently discovered in 1996, the Giga may not have much materials but better research will broaden our understanding over the other mega-theropods

@IceG52

4 ай бұрын

​@@richie_07401996 isn't recently. 30 years have passed.

It’s actually not close at all. They have about 22 million years and several thousand miles between their battle.

This fights always annoyed me because of how most people act like it's always a low diff for the rex they're both large predators around the same weight and the giga is slightly taller and longer bite force isn't the end all be all to determine this they had different hunting styles trex needed it's bite force to be that powerful giga didn't I say this fights as 50/50 as 50/50 can possibly get

What a load of Bullshit, the Tyrannosaurus wins with high difficulty. There’s no silly thing as a 13 ton Giga lol 😂

Bleed damage advantage to Giga? If T-Rex bit down on something - it is incapacitated if not mortally wounded immediately - it wasn't a bite like the shark toothed Charcaradontosaurs, it literally exploded tissue like a melon in a hydraulic press. All the fighting advantages are in favour of T-Rex - sheer mass, strength, close quarters agility, endurance and it appears - most importantly - intelligence and actual fighting experience against other massive therapods ie other T-Rexes. Don;t think a Giga would even engage in this conflict beyond just a token display gesture- there would be a pretty well understood hierarchy present - like a average hyena simply runs off an average cheetah after it hisses a few times in annoyance first.

2:17 Slight objection, citing David Hone - Tyrannosaurus rex could have sustained speeds of an Olympic sprinter over long distances. It was FAST. Giga may have been FASTER, but that estimate is way too low IMHO. Respectfully! ❤

@rodrigopinto6676

4 ай бұрын

Exactly

I have to disagree on the "bite effectiveness" point. Whatever the T.rex bites, it destroys. The giganotosaurus would need to land multiple bites, whereas the T.rex would only need to land one. Also, run speed doesnt really matter in a head to head fight. Giganotosaurus had a higher straight line run speed, but it wouldn't have been able to accelerate fast enough to get out of striking range if it's starting within biting range.

@bkjeong4302

4 ай бұрын

Why would Giganotosaurus need multiple bites? Predators that bleed out their prey kill far more quickly and efficiently than that unless the prey is far larger than themselves. BOTH sides can one-hit-kill the other here.

@smitabhmoitra5726

4 ай бұрын

​​​​​ Simple; unless the giganotosaurus lands a neck bite (literally impossible when T.rex turns twice as fast as it), bleeding wounds represent superficial damage that reptiles are *very* good at healing from. If it's a deep bite into muscle tissue, reptiles are *still* great at healing from those. Furthermore, have you noticed that most terrestrial animals (or animals with terrestrial prey) kill with suffocation or crushing? Lions, tigers, jaguars, crocodiles, ferrets, all kill with suffocation or crushing. This changes in marine environments. Exposure to oxygen begins the congealing process to heal from flesh wounds. Bears are the exception, but they just maul you and start eating you while you're still alive. They also tend to outsize the hell out of their prey. Smaller predators like African painted hounds slash, but they hunt in big packs and as you guessed, they need to inflict a crazy number of wounds to bring down prey and remember: reptiles are better at healing from this stuff than mammals. T.rexes are already ridiculous with durability and healing to begin with. Unless you're piercing organs or shattering its bones, you probably won't kill one. And guess what: Ankylosaurus and Triceratops evolved to do literally just that. Why didn't they evolve to slash and bleed out T.rexes? There are ankylosaur relatives with slashing blades for osteoderms and ceratopsians with slashing horns may have been a thing, but certainly not with those two. Why? It wouldn't be effective enough on a densely muscled opponent like T.rex. Again, why? When something that powerful comes at you, your first shot needs to either kill instantly, or back it down. Triceratops and Ankylosaurus evolved for that purpose. Giganotosaurus bites certainly did not kill instantly unless the prey was smaller or it landed a neck bite. T.rex could unironically bite heads like jaguars and kill. There's even a triceratops specimen that showed that a T.rex bit its face. The trike got out alive, which even shows that it was a predatory bite, not scavenging. Giganotosaurus couldn't pull off instakills like that. Hell, T.rexes heal from vertebrae shattering bites from other rexes. Bone healing is so much harder than flesh wound healing. To cause enough blood loss, a giganotosaurus would need to land more bites. Also if you think vertebrae shattering bites from other T.rexes didn't cause outrageous blood loss, then you're not using your brain. And you're forgetting the most important thing about Theropod fights. They involve face biting. There's no way in hell a giganotosaurus, or indeed any Theropod tops a T.rex in such a situation.

Giganotosaurus would win high extreme diff

@rodrigopinto6676

4 ай бұрын

😂

@HeWhoMurksWithOneLeap

4 ай бұрын

Rex wins, low diff.

@IceG52

4 ай бұрын

@@HeWhoMurksWithOneLeap 🤡🤣

Argentinosaurus victims

@TheOverseerDebates

4 ай бұрын

Sauropods are overpowered

@Sha-walter_goated

4 ай бұрын

Every land animal is

@hafizurrahman1006

4 ай бұрын

Argentinasaurus is fodder at parity

@bkjeong4302

4 ай бұрын

Every theropod would lose to an Argentino, not a fair fight. Edit; I’m pretty sure that a combined team of 1 representative from every megatheropod ever would still lose to an adult Argentinosaurus.

@kilianteni7884

4 ай бұрын

@@hafizurrahman1006 parity is unrealistic

A good take Tyrannosaurus should win about 65% of the time due to superior agility mainly, but it would not be easy and no matter who won, they’d be walking away with some nasty wounds. I’m a giga fan but yeah it would lose more often than not to Rex.

@Shafi856

4 ай бұрын

55% of the time.

@zebgiganotosaurusgaming

4 ай бұрын

65% to Giganotosaurus after size buffed up to 11.3 tons

@zebgiganotosaurusgaming

4 ай бұрын

65% to Giganotosaurus after size buffed up to 11.3 tons

@zebgiganotosaurusgaming

4 ай бұрын

65% to Giganotosaurus after size buffed up to 11.3 tons

@zebgiganotosaurusgaming

4 ай бұрын

65% to Giganotosaurus after size buffed up to 11.3 tons

T-rex wins easily. T-rex was much more heavily built than any theropod and had a much stronger bite force that was designed to rip out bone, ligaments, muscle and organs with one bite, Giga's teeth and skull was much weaker than Rex's and were made to slice flesh. while Giga's skull was longer it was not as robust or as powerful. T-rex had a binocular vision like an eagle. Its eyes looked straight forward giving it great depth perception, while Giga's eyes were on the side of it's head like a Rhino's so T-rex had superior eyesight compared to Giga's. T-rex was also much smarter it's brain was much wider and thicker than Giga's. I do agree that we need more specimens of Giga because we only know of a few that weighed between 8 and 9 tonnes, while we have many different weights of rex, anywhere from 6.5 tonnes to 10 tonnes which they believe Scotty weighed and Sue weighed around 8 or 9 tonnes. While Giga was longer it clearly was not as heavily built as Rex just look at the skeletons Rex was built like a sherman tank and no doubt in my mind anyway that T-rex is still King!

It is not close, a T Rex might literally bite the giga and crush its skull, the is no world where a giga would win in a straight up brawl, and theres no way a giga gets close period without risking a skull, jaw, or neck bite. The only thing a Giga would win in is a race, meaning it could likely run away from a rex if it had to, thats its only "victory"