Two Typos in the Thomas Nelson KJV with Apocrypha
A brief video showing two surprising typographical errors in the recently published King James Version (KJV) with Apocrypha from Thomas Nelson (ISBN 9781400332113, Style 9746BK). Thanks go to Darrell for discovering these errors.
At Wisdom 5.14 the word 'ungodly' has been replaced by 'Godly.' So where the original KJV read, 'For the hope of the ungodly is like dust that is blown away with the wind,' this edition has, 'For the hope of the Godly is like dust that is blown away with the wind.'
A similar error occurs at Ecclesiasticus 11.17. Where the original KJV reads, 'The gift of the Lord remaineth with the godly,' the recent Nelson edition has, 'The gift of the Lord remaineth with the ungodly.'
I checked the all occurrences of 'godly' and 'ungodly' in the Apocrypha and the 66 books of the Protestant canon, and I found no other errors.
My full review of this edition may be viewed here: • The Nelson KJV with Ap...
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My full review of this Bible may be viewed here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4FprNGJkqm0mpM.html .
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
11 ай бұрын
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". .
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
11 ай бұрын
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 .
A whole new "Wicked Bible" for a whole new generation.
@njiomonansichristianfreder6374
Жыл бұрын
You said it all ❗️
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
11 ай бұрын
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". . .
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
11 ай бұрын
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
11 ай бұрын
@@njiomonansichristianfreder6374☕️
I think we all know how these errors crept in and thank you for your ever wonderful reviews and to Darrell for his watchful eye. God bless!
I emailed Harper Collins about this. Initially they didn't believe me and asked for photos of the problems and the ISBN. I provided them and got nothing but silence for over a month. I sent another email to push things forward. Today they sent me an email saying that "these changes to the apocrypha were deliberate translation updates and are not a misprint".
@mehmeh217
10 ай бұрын
WHAT?!?!
@ColinV03
2 ай бұрын
Just 10 minutes of looking up the verses in the Douay Rheims, NRSV catholic edition, WEB bible and ASV byzantine text edition all clearly have the verses the same as the 1611. Whoever sent the email was grosly misinformed.
@justafrog5641
2 ай бұрын
@@ColinV03 It's not an issue with the translation, it's a printing error in one run. If you want it, I can send you a copy of the Bible that contains the errors. I have no use for it.
@ColinV03
2 ай бұрын
@@justafrog5641 I have no need of it either, thank you though. The response you received just baffles me.
Greetings, I called about the errors, however it seems as if they didn't really look into it, I was told that they're NOT TYPOS, BUT VARIATION IN TRANSLATION... if others would call them they'll investigate more and maybe they would correct the errors if they should do a reprinting. Thanks again Grant for your videos.
I fully accept that these are typos, but what I find interesting is that the typo in Wisdom 5:14 can actually relate to John 3:8 in a positive context. The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit. John 3:8 The typo in Ecclesiasticus 11:17 can be viewed in a similar light as well in the context of the previous verse: Error and darkness had their beginning together with sinners: and evil shall wax old with them that glory therein. Ecclesiasticus 11:16 The "gift" of the Lord being error and darkness for sinners and waxing old alongside them, which is a juxtaposition to his "favor" which brings prosperity. It's referred to as a "gift" as the sinner walking in their ways, their "gift" continues them onto damnation, while God's "favor" brings true prosperity. This correlates to Psalm 73: 1 Surely God is good to Israel, To those who are pure in heart! 2 But as for me, my feet came close to stumbling, My steps had almost slipped. 3 For I was envious of the arrogant As I saw the prosperity of the wicked. 4 For there are no pains in their death, And their body is fat. 5 They are not in trouble as other men, Nor are they plagued like mankind. 6 Therefore pride is their necklace; The garment of violence covers them. 7 Their eye bulges from fatness; The imaginations of their heart run riot. Psalm 73
Goodness. At best an unfortunate mistyping. That it should happen twice with the same word/words is a notable coincidence.
@LNR65
Жыл бұрын
I find a bit unsettling considering that another of Thomas Nelson's more recent releases: The Sovereign Collection KJV in Purple, literally has the number 666 on the cover.
@njiomonansichristianfreder6374
Жыл бұрын
No such thing as 'coincidence'.
@DavidWilson-hd6iz
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's curious. Perhaps not as bad an error as the "Wicked Bible" of 1631, which left the "not" out of the seventh commandment. The case was commented on by Peter Heylyn in 1668: "His Majesties Printers, at or about this time [1632], had committed a scandalous mistake in our English Bibles, by leaving out the word Not in the Seventh Commandment. His Majesty being made acquainted with it by the Bishop of London, Order was given for calling the Printers into the High-Commission where upon the Evidence of the Fact, the whole Impression was called in, and the Printers deeply fined, as they justly merited". Thomas Nelson take heed!
@njiomonansichristianfreder6374
Жыл бұрын
@@DavidWilson-hd6iz 💯🎯 No such thing as 'coincidence', indeed.
From Thomas Nelson: "There are no mistranslations or errors in this edition of the Apocrypha. It is a more modern translation done in the 20th century rather than the one that accompanied the 17th century edition with the 1611 KJV. However, we are looking at it again and considering a change to an older edition of the Apocrypha for future publications." That is not cool. They should admit that they messed up when the errors are that bad. They should post a PSA about their translation, discontinue it, reprint it w/o those errors, or do literally anything other than what they did. Source: On Nov 9, 2023, someone left a bad review on this Bible on the KJV Store, citing this. On Nov 11, 2023, KJV Store replied that they contacted Thomas Nelson and received that response.
@RGrantJones
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for passing that along, Catfinity!
It is funny how these errors seem to always occur in the deutercanonical books. Thomas Nelson is not the only publisher to have errors there. Another publisher , after they were made aware of many errors, did not even bother to correct them. Funny.
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
11 ай бұрын
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". . .
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
11 ай бұрын
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 .
@oececawolf
Ай бұрын
The thing is, for Thomas Nelson specifically, their whole reference Bible is like that. My Bible from ages 6 to 19 was a Thomas Nelson KJV Reference Edition WITHOUT the apocrypha, and it was riddled with typos. What most sticks out to me is that the text from Genesis to Revelation was filled with extra apostrophes: for example, the text often had the words "theirs" and "hers" spelled as "their's" and "her's," which any sixth-grader or even younger should know is not allowed in English. The text overall seemed to have been assembled very un-professionally. When I read aloud for family worship, a passage was pointed out to me where my Bible said "will" where everyone else's used "shall."
@oececawolf
Ай бұрын
I have noticed that the apocrypha of most kjvs online also have typos, but not these ones. I think someone in Thomas Nelson has to be doing this intentionally.
I have the Thomas Nelson king James study Bible (not with the apocrypha). Multiple chapters from the book of Ezekiel are missing. I don’t know if it’s a printing error or what, but now that I found this video I’m starting to wonder. I’m going to reach out to the publisher and give them a chance to make this right.
I think a snake has snuck into the house at Thomas Nelson.
@njiomonansichristianfreder6374
Жыл бұрын
💯
@oececawolf
Ай бұрын
My Bible from age 6 to 19 was a Thomas Nelson KJV Reference Edition WITHOUT the apocrypha, and it was riddled with typos. What most sticks out to me is that the text from Genesis to Revelation was filled with extra apostrophes: for example, the text often had the words "theirs" and "hers" spelled as "their's" and "her's," which any sixth-grader or even younger should know is not allowed in English. The text overall seemed to have been assembled very un-professionally. When I read aloud for family worship, a passage was pointed out to me where my Bible said "will" where everyone else's used "shall." Because of this, I have been advising people not buy Thomas Nelson Bibles for around 5 years now. It doesn't surprise me that their deuterocanon is even more warped than their protocanon. The two typos mentioned in this video are not the only ones: I found a review of the Thomas Nelson with Apocrypha on christianbook.com that lists many more of such egregious, meaning-changing errors.
I’d like to see TN pull this one from the shelves. What a car crash of an edition.
Seems like they didn't take the time to proof read the text. Didn't even bother to add the 1611 references to the apocrypha. Pure laziness. These editions are disappointments. No excuse for that.
@oececawolf
Ай бұрын
My Bible from age 6 to 19 was a Thomas Nelson KJV Reference Edition WITHOUT the apocrypha, and it was riddled with typos. What most sticks out to me is that the text from Genesis to Revelation was filled with extra apostrophes: for example, the text often had the words "theirs" and "hers" spelled as "their's" and "her's," which any sixth-grader or even younger should know is not allowed in English. The text overall seemed to have been assembled very un-professionally. When I read aloud for family worship, a passage was pointed out to me where my Bible said "will" where everyone else's used "shall." Because of this, I have been advising people not buy Thomas Nelson Bibles for around 5 years now. It doesn't surprise me that their deuterocanon is even more warped than their protocanon. The two typos mentioned in this video are not the only ones: I found a review of the Thomas Nelson with Apocrypha on christianbook.com that lists many more of such egregious, meaning-changing errors.
Blessed be the ones with eyes to see
This is alarming I spotted one of these before and commented on the original video. Hopefully it was just error and by mistake. Tampering with God's word is definitely a no no. Glad I have older copies to refer back. However for a babe this can bring doubt.
Love your videos and thanks for bringing attention to these typos. I've been looking for a good 1611 KJV facsimile or reprint, which one are you using in this video? The gothic font is gorgeous.
@RGrantJones
Жыл бұрын
Greatsite.com used to sell the facsimile that appears in this video. I reviewed it here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dJeTvLWvea67j8Y.html . Unhappily, they've gone out of the business of selling facsimiles, and I don't know where you could find one today, except perhaps at eBay or Etsy.
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
11 ай бұрын
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". . .
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
11 ай бұрын
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
11 ай бұрын
@@RGrantJones☕️
I have the anniversary 1611 quasi facsimile, and am looking for a nice edition that I wouldn't be afraid to make minor side notes in. Thinking of the Cameo Reference but the print is small. Is there anything comparable larger either leather or simple trad looking hardcover?
How unfortunate, I absolutely love this Bible as it contained the Apocrypha with 3 Maccabees. I find a bit unsettling considering that another of Thomas Nelson's more recent releases: The Sovereign Collection KJV in Purple, literally has the numbers 666 on the cover.
@jimmu2008
Жыл бұрын
I saw the cover on Christian Book Distributors' website. I don't think those marks are intended to be sixes
@jimmu2008
Жыл бұрын
@@bourbon_sketcher I'm not buying it. It's far more like that the mind sees what's not actually there. It's been suggested that they are sixes, so you see sixes. On closer examination, they are just looping branches - or vines.
@jimmu2008
Жыл бұрын
@@bourbon_sketcher it's just a hunch, but I suspect that this design motif is older than the figure 6
@njiomonansichristianfreder6374
Жыл бұрын
@@jimmu2008 🚨If you want to keep on deceiving yourself, have at it to your heart's content, BUT ABSTAIN from deceiving others, especially those who can see farther than their nose. 🎯"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them."Jésus-ChrisT i.e. GOD i.e. Adonaï{Authorized Holy King James 1611}
@jimmu2008
Жыл бұрын
@@njiomonansichristianfreder6374Your condemnation is null and void as I am neither deceived nor deceiving others.
I recently got Thomas Nelson's NKJV Word Study Reference Bible and found a misprint where Revelation 22 verses 12, 13, 16, and part of 20 were all missing - the red letter text just wasn't printed on that page. I've seen one review that shows that page ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/lKud18qSZ7SnepM.html ), but theirs was printed just fine, so I'm not sure how many copies might be affected.
These will get moved to Ollie's soon. Unfortunate circumstance.
oh no I bought that bible lol. welp time to get correcting!
Thanks for pointing the errors out! Could you please tell me what is the other version of KJV with apocrypha you are using in video, because I think I changed my mind about buying the Nelson version.
@RGrantJones
Жыл бұрын
In this video, I showed a facsimile KJV from GreatSite.com. While they no longer sell that Bible, I believe this is the same edition: www.thekjvstore.com/1611-king-james-bible-regular-facsimile-edition/ . Another option is the Cambridge Cameo with Apocrypha. If you don't mind archaic spellings, you might like the Oxford Quatercentenary edition, but it's somewhat large. Hendrickson publishes a 1611 KJV with the apocrypha. It also uses the older spellings, but it's more portable.
@theresa8558
Жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones thanks so much!
Why? When will they come out with one with no errors!
Another connection this typo makes with the New Testament now exists with Ecclesiasticus 11:17 and Matthew 15:5-6: 5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; 6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. Matthew 15:5-6
What manuscripts did the kjva use for the deutercanonicals? Interestingly in brentons Septuagint and hendricksons septeginta remove Ecclessiasticus 11:15 and 11:16. Could depend on the source in many instances. Let us see what other error will be discovered. Hopefully that was all.
Not sure how else to contact you. I’d like to request that you review the New Catholic Bible published by Catholic Book Publishing. It’s not to be confused with the CTS (Catholic Truth Society) New Catholic Bible. The NCB is now probably the most readily available Bible in Catholic stores, due to the distribution power of CBP, yet because it’s relatively new it has received scant attention. But it’s fabulous! imho. Very faithful, occasionally creatively clarifying, and nearly always the most readable of the many reputable English language Bibles I’ve looked over. Please consider doing Catholics a great service by reviewing it.
@RGrantJones
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation, Robert! Would this edition do? www.christianbook.com/joseph-catholic-large-print-hardcover-black/9781953152275/pd/15227X?event=Catholic-Resources|1015540 It seems to have a font large enough for old folks like me. Unfortunately, the words of Christ are in red.
@RobertFallon
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I wish I had the large print edition. But my personal size edition feels marvelous in my hand and imparts a sense of devotion, even if it sometimes challenges my eyes! Thanks for being receptive! A word of caution (or challenge!): CBP seems to acknowledge that the translation is essentially a project intended to create a house version of the Bible in order, partly, to avoid copyright royalty fees. They cite a certain Franciscan friar as the director of the translation, and claim to aim for a literal and readable translation, but don’t otherwise specify the other members of the translation team or the sources that guided this new translation. I’d love to see where you rank it on your literal-to-dynamic equivalence scale, and how you regard the quality of the translation. Just when my research brought me to the ESV as being my favorite translation, I stumbled on the NCB, which supplanted it according to my main criteria of having normal, well-written English.
@RGrantJones
Жыл бұрын
@@RobertFallon - Thanks for that background information. It takes me quite a while to score a translation for 'literalness,' so I may not have that done by the time I post a review.
@njiomonansichristianfreder6374
Жыл бұрын
🚨Get out and utterly forsake the synagogue of Satan that (roman)catholicism is. Otherwise, if you want to keep on deceiving yourself, have at it to your heart's content on your way to HeLL, BUT ABSTAIN from deceiving others. 🎯"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."CHAPTER 1, HOLY GALATIANS{Authorized Holy King James 1611}
I was going to get this bible. Which is the bible you were using with the correct scripture?
@RGrantJones
9 ай бұрын
I haven't watched this video in some time, so it may have been the Cameo with Apocrypha ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/gqZ2uqqBaJnVYps.html )or a facsimile of the original ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/dJeTvLWvea67j8Y.html ).
@danielgreen2975
9 ай бұрын
Funny enough, I've was just watching your review on the kjv Cameo. I'm in two minds of purchasing that kjv Cameo or the cepher.
Have any typos been found in the canonical section? Thinking of buying this as a gift & want to make sure that at least the canon is not corrupted. Love your reviews-they’ve been extremely helpful! God Bless!
@RGrantJones
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind comment! No, as far as I know, the 66 books are free from typos.
@factcheckthesehands364
8 ай бұрын
@@RGrantJones Thank you!
@oececawolf
Ай бұрын
My Bible from ages 6 to 19 was a Thomas Nelson KJV Reference Edition WITHOUT the apocrypha, and it was riddled with typos. What most sticks out to me is that the text from Genesis to Revelation was filled with extra apostrophes: for example, the text often had the words "theirs" and "hers" spelled as "their's" and "her's," which any sixth-grader or even younger should know is not allowed in English. The text overall seemed to have been assembled very un-professionally. When I read aloud for family worship, a passage was pointed out to me where my Bible said "will" where everyone else's used "shall." I didn't compare it word-for-word all the way through with other KJVs, but what I did notice I consider bad enough that I wouldn't even give that Bible as a gift if I could help it.
I found that the second typo is only that way in the 1611 version you are looking at, every other version of Ecclesiasticus has "ungodly". That first one is definitely a good find. Thank you for your diligence.
@RGrantJones
2 ай бұрын
The Cambridge Cameo with Apocrypha has "The gift of the Lord remaineth with the godly" at Ecclesiasticus 11.17, disagreeing with this Nelson edition.
@xXxevilgoatxXx
2 ай бұрын
@@RGrantJones The Septuagint has "The gift of the Lord remaineth with the ungodly" not only is this what everyone agreed with for the first 1500 years of Christianity, but it just makes sense. Godly doesn't make any sense there
@RGrantJones
2 ай бұрын
@@xXxevilgoatxXx - NETS has "The Lord's gift remains with the pious." Brenton has, "The gift of the Lord remaineth with the godly." The Lexham English Septuagint has, "The gift of the Lord remains with the godly." Rahlfs' Greek text reads, "δόσις κυρίου παραμένει εὐσεβέσιν [godly]." Which Septuagint translation are you reading?
@xXxevilgoatxXx
2 ай бұрын
@@RGrantJones SIR LANCELOT C.L. BRENTON Origionally published by Samuel Bagster & Sons, Ltd., London 1851. I think you might be right though. Thank you
Typo in one of the most quoted parts of the Apocrypha? Others say "for" but this says "...far he hath delivered us from hell..." The Three Holy Children 1:66
@70_X_7
2 ай бұрын
Far is also used instead of for in Judith 12:15.
Will it be fair to say that NRSV more accurate than RSV? And if one has to read a classical Bible translation then why not read KJV (greatest book of English language), as RSV has been replaced by NRSV? Does it makes sense to read RSV now, or is it defunct like RV and ASV?
@RGrantJones
Жыл бұрын
You ask some good questions, Hassan; but I don't have good answers. I still use the RV, ASV, and RSV, so they're not defunct as far as I'm concerned. Many people still use the RSV, particularly Catholics. The RSV2CE is a very lightly modified version of the RSV. I'm not sure about accuracy. I haven't come up with an objective way to measure it yet. But my sense is that, although literal translations are sometimes misleading, in general, more literal translations are more accurate than less literal ones. That suggests to me that the RSV is more accurate than the NRSV. I read the KJV every day during morning and evening prayer, but it does use outdated words and words that have changed meaning. So a more modern translation like the RSV (or ESV, NKJV, LSB, NASB, etc.) can be a useful supplement.
@hassanmirza2392
Жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones Thanks for the comprehensive answer. I personally think that no English translation can ever surpass KJV when it comes to beauty and poetry. So, RSV will be more accurate than KJV but probably NRSV will be even more accurate according to English speaking academia. So, RSV has to be somewhere in the middle of poetry and more accuracy. I think not many people use RV and ASV now, but some specialists might? Maybe RSV might go towards obscurity too.
@hassanmirza2392
Жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones Mainline NRSVue and the Reform & Conservative NJPS Hebrew Bible (rejected by Orthodox branch) translations have gone far-left. Both are too much gender inclusive now. Definitely not the best ones to get!
@njiomonansichristianfreder6374
Жыл бұрын
Stick to The Authorized King James 1611(1769.).
@hassanmirza2392
Жыл бұрын
@@njiomonansichristianfreder6374 For Christian Bible, I would prefer RSV/NRSV/ESV family of translations. For Hebrew Bible, NJPS (comparable to NRSV) and ArtScroll (comparable to ESV) translations are quite famous.
Nice catch! 👍🏻
Wow
I have an hypothesis: Sâṭân
Very interesting typos. Funny how they both coincide. It's going to make for good material for those believing there is a conspiracy on the loose. But, since they are in those spesific parts, maybe it's a conspiracy to... smuggle univeralist theology into the Bible🤫..or something like that. Nelson did bring it on themselves by having such an unlikely combo of typos. Maybe there is an angry atheist working the printing press🙂
@RGrantJones
Жыл бұрын
The work of a malicious employee seems more likely to me than, say, faulty optical character recognition. Thanks for commenting, Arthur.
@DarkWafflesOfDoom
Жыл бұрын
@@RGrantJones I don't think it's fair to say it was an intentional error. Hanlon's razor and all.
@mikelilley
Жыл бұрын
@@DarkWafflesOfDoom Had to look that up (Hanlon's Razor), and I actually agree with with you. What seems or is perceived to be intentional may be due to incompetence. Thank you for your comment.
@RGrantJones
Жыл бұрын
@@DarkWafflesOfDoom - I'm not saying it is intentional - just that that seems more likely to me than an OCR error.
Oh dear. What a dreadful pair of typos.
Is it true that Thomas Nelson knowingly changes words in their bible such as throughly and thoroughly in Genesis 11:3?
@RGrantJones
Жыл бұрын
This edition does read 'thoroughly' at Gen 11.3.
Has anybody brought this to the attention of Thomas Nelson publishers so they can correct it?
Uff da!
These are quite profound typos.
Have these been corrected yet?
@RGrantJones
10 ай бұрын
Not to my knowledge.
@mehmeh217
10 ай бұрын
@@RGrantJones Might be worth noting that Harper Collins also publishes the Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey
Revelation 12:18 (13:1)
@danivuk2036
Жыл бұрын
@Jesus Christ Is My Lord And Savior double negatives are wrong. 😉
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". :)
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
11 ай бұрын
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 .
🎯"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."Jésus-ChrisT i.e. GOD i.e. Adonaï{Authorized Holy King James 1611}🎯
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 .
@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
11 ай бұрын
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit. This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.". .
Probably just mistakes. The king james version was great for it's time, but even the latin vulgate is more accurate.
Good thing the typos are not in the Word of God.
@3ggshe11s
4 ай бұрын
You mean the books that were in all Bibles up till around the mid-19th century?
@oececawolf
Ай бұрын
My Bible from age 6 to 19 was a Thomas Nelson KJV Reference Edition WITHOUT the apocrypha, and it was riddled with typos. What most sticks out to me is that the text from Genesis to Revelation was filled with extra apostrophes: for example, the text often had the words "theirs" and "hers" spelled as "their's" and "her's," which any sixth-grader or even younger should know is not allowed in English. The text overall seemed to have been assembled very un-professionally. When I read aloud for family worship, a passage was pointed out to me where my Bible said "will" where everyone else's used "shall." I didn't actively search for or notice more egregious errors, but the ones I do remember are bad enough for me to recommend people not get Thomas Nelson Bibles 😕