Two Step CHEATER CODE For Backing Vocals | Marc Daniel Nelson

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In this episode of MakeMineMusic, Marc Daniel Nelson shows a trick he came across by
accident many years ago that became a major influence to how he processes backing
vocals. In this two step cocktail, there are simple yet effective moves with two separate
plugins that enhance background vocals in a major way and put them right in the sweet
spot for the listener.
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  • @Producelikeapro
    @Producelikeapro Жыл бұрын

    What are your favourite plugins for mixing vocals?

  • @reddotrecording

    @reddotrecording

    Жыл бұрын

    Boz Digital Labs +10db compressor is step 1 for getting my vocals pinned in place. Quick question for you, Warren: Any updates on the prizes for the Feb 2023 Rate My Mix mix competition? I got 3rd place (you called my mix "dangerous") and the guy that was corresponding on it said "you'll hear from me this weekend" on May 1. Since then silence. Any updates?

  • @stevekudlacek

    @stevekudlacek

    Жыл бұрын

    A parallel MicroPitchSlap from the H3000 by Eventide allows me to musically thicken vocals. I adjust the tuning so it isn’t drastic (5-10 up and down) and decrease the delay slap to well under Haas (10-20ms) so the slap is unnoticeable…

  • @3dogrecordingstudio628

    @3dogrecordingstudio628

    Жыл бұрын

    Eq of choice is Cubase's stock Eq Frequency. It allows you to sidechain Frequencies out of the way of each other as well as being a dynamic eq. Then the lead vocal goes to my outboard gear, BLA Bluey Compressor into a BLA Seventeen compressor. They do something magical to a vocal. Then into a send chain of reverbs and delays.

  • @disappt

    @disappt

    Жыл бұрын

    Apogee’s EQP-1A emulation and Oeksound Soothe 2 for sure!

  • @adeofbass

    @adeofbass

    Жыл бұрын

    Not something a Pro would use but I really like the Chris Lord Alge plugin from Waves. Quick, easy and great sounding for a base line. Also use H Delay on two sends - one set to a regular delay, the other with a faster setting and pingpong.

  • @Singerville
    @Singerville Жыл бұрын

    Marc is such a class act. Thanks as always for featuring him!

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure!

  • @mixphantom0101
    @mixphantom0101 Жыл бұрын

    It's cool that you admit you discovered this by accident. It's actually quite similar to how the "Dolby A vocal trick" works - dynamically enhancing the top end to increase separation from the tape hiss.

  • @MoreMeRecording
    @MoreMeRecording Жыл бұрын

    I never miss a video from Marc. Always offers such great examples of his workflow.

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Great to hear!

  • @carlasker9285
    @carlasker92853 ай бұрын

    Lovely guy. He has really transformed the way I mix my own music, especially - to work the plugins with more subtlety but in more steps, to enhance the final product in a more calibrated tasteful way. Thanks Marc!

  • @clubbedtobreathe
    @clubbedtobreathe Жыл бұрын

    Combining this with whispering tracks might be a great combo

  • @bendavis268
    @bendavis268 Жыл бұрын

    Every single time, a practical, relatively easy to understand trick to get more from your mix. I'm so impressed with MDN. Thank you, again. I love the humbleness to admit "this was an accident that works". Can't wait for the next tip. 🦄

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @realraven2000
    @realraven2000 Жыл бұрын

    I love the reverse Jumper - mirroring the reverse expansion trick in fashion. MDN is just the most interesting Mixing Artist I know.

  • @craigligman
    @craigligman Жыл бұрын

    Love Marc's videos, I watch everyone! Marc always has such great in depth detailed explanation for what is doing, one of my favorite mixers, and I love all of the music he works on. Thanks PLP for putting the out!

  • @Rhuggins
    @Rhuggins Жыл бұрын

    Dan is the man- bought all of his courses. Elegant dude- he has a fabulous attention to detail and the headspace he taps into while he is mixing is really that of an artist at work. Lovely

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! Yes, his courses on Pro Mix Academy are incredible

  • @BlackenedNL
    @BlackenedNL Жыл бұрын

    WOWW! That is exactly that airy pop sound! Definitely will be trying this out on bgv's, thank you Marc!

  • @thetaylorcronkproject2473
    @thetaylorcronkproject2473 Жыл бұрын

    Funny you mention hearing “whispering” on certain vocal tracks. A friend of mine who’s done a lot of recording with some of the biggest names in blue grass, said they would sometimes actually record a track of whispered vocals to give the harmonies air. Great video.

  • @m.o.n.d.e.g.r.e.e.n

    @m.o.n.d.e.g.r.e.e.n

    Жыл бұрын

    i double track whispers a lot and hard pan them under the lead vox - can be a nightmare on the sibilance but if you produce it right it's really cool.

  • @leopoldbluesky

    @leopoldbluesky

    Жыл бұрын

    I started doing this a while back after I realised that's how Jim Morrison did the lead vocal on Riders on the Storm

  • @marylewis3311

    @marylewis3311

    11 ай бұрын

    A whispering take and a shouting take.

  • @Joey-rp5vg
    @Joey-rp5vg Жыл бұрын

    Lovely video Marc with great tips. Thanks very much for sharing your knowledge. Big thanks to the PLAP team

  • @adamwollins7201
    @adamwollins7201 Жыл бұрын

    Marc's likely forgotten more about mixing than I know. Truly inspiring. Thank you sir.

  • @mathieugarcia5762
    @mathieugarcia57627 ай бұрын

    You're a gold mine sir, no BS with you, just pure love of teaching and sharing, because you know that your experience and behaviour will always get you the gigs first anyway. Pure class, thank you!

  • @timmsky
    @timmsky Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful, subtle, genius. Marc, you are an inspiration, thanks man.

  • @3dogrecordingstudio628
    @3dogrecordingstudio628 Жыл бұрын

    You're reading my mind Marc, this is perfect time for a song I'm finishing recording and mixing. Thank you....

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Great! Enjoy implementing the tip!

  • @user-hk3hf9ok9d
    @user-hk3hf9ok9d Жыл бұрын

    Marc is a musical treasure and should be protected at all cost

  • @josegabrielmendezreyes805
    @josegabrielmendezreyes805 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mark and Warren. I am very grateful that they share different techniques and tricks with us to continue growing. Big hugs to all!

  • @willb1157
    @willb1157 Жыл бұрын

    What a GREAT WAY TO START THE DAY! Thank you Marc, thank you Warren.

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure! Thanks for watching!

  • @michael_maurus
    @michael_maurus Жыл бұрын

    Wow what an amazing track and sound! Thank you Marc for your time and energy showing the real magic of music engineering.

  • @disappt
    @disappt Жыл бұрын

    Yes! Always tried to get that whispery background vocal sound and this looks like a great way to nail that. Absolutely gonna try it out, thank you Marc!

  • @mixinthecloud3338
    @mixinthecloud3338 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Mark. Very timely. Very timely.

  • @kevinkappelman6227
    @kevinkappelman6227 Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff Marc. I make it a point to listen when you speak. Thank you sir!

  • @jacobclare58
    @jacobclare58 Жыл бұрын

    another good advice video share with Marc Daniel Nelson, highly respect his wisdom and experience, thank you to this channel for providing videos with Marc Daniel Nelson (this is the sole reason I subscribe to this channel)

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure! Be sure to join the Academy for exclusive Academy content and live streams with Marc each month too!

  • @andreirlmeier
    @andreirlmeier Жыл бұрын

    short but to the point

  • @sgfdancecompany
    @sgfdancecompany Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much Marc to reveal and share your great approach in music

  • @mixinthecloud3338
    @mixinthecloud3338 Жыл бұрын

    There are no mistakes, only happy accidents. 😊

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    :)

  • @rickdeaguiar-musicreflecti7692
    @rickdeaguiar-musicreflecti7692 Жыл бұрын

    Love it! Great approach. Will be implementing this :)

  • @davebops2478
    @davebops2478 Жыл бұрын

    Oh that is wonderful! Thankyou so much.

  • @CedricPytelRagtimeStudioUk
    @CedricPytelRagtimeStudioUk Жыл бұрын

    Great Stuff Marc! Your videos are always inspiring

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @DanielGlenTimms
    @DanielGlenTimms Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tips!

  • @SmilusMusic
    @SmilusMusic Жыл бұрын

    Great tip, and what an amazing song!!!!!! Great mix!

  • @tutubeos
    @tutubeos11 ай бұрын

    Wow! Everything sounds amazing. Congrats! 💙

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks ever so much!

  • @nathanieljohnsonjr775
    @nathanieljohnsonjr775 Жыл бұрын

    This is why I love this man!! Thanks for another banger!!

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoy it!

  • @equivocator7727
    @equivocator7727 Жыл бұрын

    Just wondering what the benefit of using an expander for the top-end is over just boosting those frequencies?

  • @anaiytv2120
    @anaiytv2120 Жыл бұрын

    Wow what a wonderful video ,thanks for the trick 😊

  • @theslideguy4228
    @theslideguy4228 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent, MDN. Already checked it out on one of my mixes. Yep; it works. Thank you!

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Great to hear! Save that preset! ha!

  • @bigchiefcinema9654
    @bigchiefcinema96546 ай бұрын

    truly amazing and inspiring work.

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much 😀

  • @Stormsurf001
    @Stormsurf001 Жыл бұрын

    Great trick Marc! Thanks so much for sharing.

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @splashesin8
    @splashesin8 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Marc! 😊

  • @kenkrugger
    @kenkrugger Жыл бұрын

    This works like magic. Thank you so much!

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it helps.

  • @hv3485
    @hv34855 ай бұрын

    Love These Videos!

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks ever so much

  • @markotten1755
    @markotten1755 Жыл бұрын

    Love it! Thanks Marc :)

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @GeorgeAmodei21
    @GeorgeAmodei21 Жыл бұрын

    I'm doing a COVER rn and using this technique. I'm also looking for that SOUND :) Thx Marc

  • @DrGlu
    @DrGlu Жыл бұрын

    great trick thanks Marc

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @seebillasedran9130
    @seebillasedran9130 Жыл бұрын

    Sei un king marc, grande grande grande

  • @thesebarehands9082
    @thesebarehands9082 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant

  • @Luke-ot6mk
    @Luke-ot6mk Жыл бұрын

    MDN fantastic as always!

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely!

  • @Nikogigineishvili
    @Nikogigineishvili Жыл бұрын

    more Marc Daniel Nelson videos please!

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    More coming! But be sure to check out the PLAP Academy too where we have exclusive content from Marc (including live streams with the community) each month :) Marc will live stream today!

  • @Nikogigineishvili

    @Nikogigineishvili

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Producelikeapro Warren and Eric! you are amazing guys, thanks for this channel and Academy, but i have no free time to listen your live streams and others, because of my job, time zone difference and family :D but when i have some time to breathe, i always watch your small videos, reviews and other great youtuber`s content, so thanks again for your work and dedication to music!

  • @nayanmirza2507
    @nayanmirza2507 Жыл бұрын

    Great information... please make mixing on pop lead vocals

  • @QFXmusic
    @QFXmusic Жыл бұрын

    Very Nice

  • @DaneDavenport
    @DaneDavenport Жыл бұрын

    Sheesh, this is awesome!

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed! Thanks for watching!

  • @1loveMusic2003
    @1loveMusic2003 Жыл бұрын

    Really cool

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching :)

  • @Filipmarinchev72
    @Filipmarinchev728 ай бұрын

    Marc Daniel Nelson is a genius !!!

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    8 ай бұрын

    He is rather wonderful!

  • @paulEmotionalaudio
    @paulEmotionalaudio11 ай бұрын

    What I wouldn’t give to be able to be Marc’s assistant for a year. Masterclass perhaps???

  • @OriginalRaveParty
    @OriginalRaveParty Жыл бұрын

    Super wicked 😀

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Very!

  • @BLACKSYNTH
    @BLACKSYNTH Жыл бұрын

    On Vocals I like to EQ it early with a UAD hitsville EQ or similar because it's non sergical and sounds great for just balencing it first. sometimes that fixes 70% of bandwidth problems if I went in with a surgical Pro Q3 and started making cuts and things mearly on, I find oftern I inadvetantly damage the natural timbre of vocal takes. thats my tip..don't jump in and start agressivly fixing things, sure you may get rid of unwanted frequenceys but you can very quickly kill the sound. also Marcs jumper seems to be inside out.

  • @MrNicknayme
    @MrNicknayme Жыл бұрын

    Pretty cool

  • @brand_music_records
    @brand_music_records Жыл бұрын

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @StrikerBAY

    @StrikerBAY

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Marc 👍

  • @nashse7en
    @nashse7en3 ай бұрын

    Hi, i loved the video. Could you tell us where is a good place to HIpass the background vocals? like 250hz would be good?

  • @dagovevareberg
    @dagovevareberg Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for a very interesting video and for your generosity by sharing this trick! However I’m not quite sure I got the whole trick? You’re saying that the MJUC compressor on the BGV bus is controlling some of the pokey parts on the bgv and that it is side chained, but from which signal? Is it from the lead vocal to make sure that the compressor creates room for the LV, by ducking the bgv, or is the side chain signal coming from the dry bgv signal, but only the part of the signal above 400 Hz will trigger the compressor to react? Thanks!

  • @skinnybreakfast
    @skinnybreakfast11 ай бұрын

    Jumper is inside out Marc :))

  • @Kharrari
    @Kharrari Жыл бұрын

    fire

  • @claudius3124
    @claudius3124 Жыл бұрын

    great tips! thank you very much sir! ;-)

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure!

  • @ordinarymonster1187
    @ordinarymonster1187 Жыл бұрын

    his charisma is coming out from my monitor.

  • @jeffess2571
    @jeffess257117 күн бұрын

    Still can’t get a grasp on sidechain and bus.Shed any light on it for me?Need to step my mixing game up.

  • @philippgrunert8776
    @philippgrunert8776 Жыл бұрын

    Wow. Thank you for this video and technique. I always wondered how people made the BGs tucked back but still being present. It is kind of contra intuitive for me though :-)

  • @iam-music
    @iam-music4 ай бұрын

    Brilliant! as usual BUT I dont get why the MJ is sidechained at such a low freq ie 400? EDIT: My mistake...after all the HF...the 400 is just the HP filter for the internal sidechain...quick look at the manual MJ

  • @Six2Nine
    @Six2Nine Жыл бұрын

    Juggler! I steal this! Thy Sir.

  • @AndyA1234
    @AndyA12343 ай бұрын

    This shows how important that the tracking is done to a high standard. Don't think you can fix badly recorded tracks & get it sounding like Marc.

  • @crawlingman7003
    @crawlingman7003 Жыл бұрын

    Nice. How were you EQing the vocal’s reverb?

  • @twinsprucestudios
    @twinsprucestudios Жыл бұрын

    When a mistake or accident becomes the biggest thing: In my circle, we call it the "Ooops... F***...WOAH!!! Factor".

  • @Producelikeapro

    @Producelikeapro

    Жыл бұрын

    hahaha! Indeed

  • @lawinter1949
    @lawinter1949 Жыл бұрын

    I’m confused. Is this expansion or upward compression of the high end. I have always not been sure which one Pro-MB is doing?

  • @Killadey
    @Killadey9 ай бұрын

    Is your sweater inside out?

  • @lastboxofsparklers
    @lastboxofsparklers Жыл бұрын

    That expander is effectively acting as a wide eq boost with a very basic envelope controlling it... I cannot think of any reason that would work any better than just a conventional eq. If the band had a narrower q I could see the point, but as is I think this is very close to snake oil territory...

  • @marcdanielnelson317

    @marcdanielnelson317

    Жыл бұрын

    Not correct. At all. It sounds nothing like boosting the top band of an eq.

  • @lastboxofsparklers

    @lastboxofsparklers

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marcdanielnelson317 what I wrote is technically correct, if you're hearing something else it is some sort of bias, or possibly the attack and release time (but I doubt the envelope would make any major difference). If the whole idea is that you're using the attack and release to shape the vocals you should have probably explained how you did that.

  • @lastboxofsparklers

    @lastboxofsparklers

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marcdanielnelson317 another thing it could potentially be you're hearing is the "smearing" at the ends of the curve, but that is usually not a thing people like, and again something you should have explained. As is, this "trick" is just too random to be used as a general thing.

  • @iam-music

    @iam-music

    4 ай бұрын

    Because its now time domain and the highest freq transients are proportionally louder so the tone memory of the brain 'sees' it differently. It is nothing like a static boost...its not the transmitter, its the receiver ;-)

  • @lastboxofsparklers

    @lastboxofsparklers

    4 ай бұрын

    @@iam-music did you miss the "envelope" part of my reply?

  • @ProgressiveHoschi
    @ProgressiveHoschi Жыл бұрын

    Hi, is Marc a son of Jude Law? 🤔

  • @oneammonday
    @oneammonday Жыл бұрын

    Marc, you're very talented and seem like one heck of a good guy, but no amount of work on this plastic, vanilla drivel of a song will restore my will to live. I'm concentrating hard to drop my razor blade. Wait, King Crimson video on the horizon. All good, now.

  • @chipgaasche4933
    @chipgaasche4933 Жыл бұрын

    Aren't choruses supposed to be catchy?

  • @jb-ki9xf
    @jb-ki9xf Жыл бұрын

    great first impression of Marc

  • @cefahprod
    @cefahprod Жыл бұрын

    I'm flabbergasted. It is night and day and yet there is so little move. Amazing.

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