Two Civil War Percussion Revolvers: Colt vs. Remington

Evan discusses the advantages and disadvantages of these historic revolvers.

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  • @noahcount7132
    @noahcount71323 ай бұрын

    Enjoyed the side-by-side comparison of the Colt and Remington revolvers, Evan. For that matter, I find all of the videos you post featuring Wyoming State Museum artifacts enjoyable and informative. Keep up the good work. 👍

  • @evangreen3209

    @evangreen3209

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks, Noah. Next series of videos will feature firearms from the collection of the Cheyenne Frontier Days Old West Museum. They asked me to help catalog their collection, then allowed me to do six videos. The best was an Evans Repeating Rifle, circa 1872 or so. One of 300 of the first sporting model. Held 34 rounds when the military was using a single shot.

  • @NM-eb5ej
    @NM-eb5ej3 ай бұрын

    Thanks Evan, two nice examples of firearm history.

  • @user-pq1re5ey5n
    @user-pq1re5ey5n3 ай бұрын

    Hello Evan, two great revolvers there! I’ve heard you mention that you were a cowboy action shooter at one time. Me, too. I’ve shot both of those guns (reproductions) on the clock (Frontiersman category) and I have some personal observations and experiences that I’d like to share: While the Remington is believed to be a stronger frame than the 1860 army, the problem with the Remington‘s is they have such a small cylinder pin that the black powder fouling will quickly bind up between the cylinder and the frame and between the barrel and the cylinder, making it difficult to cock the hammer and rotate the cylinder. They would foul up and lock up sometimes within 10 rounds. On the other hand, the Colt’s cylinder rotates on a large grooved arbor. If you grease up that arbor before shooting, every time you cock the hammer and rotate the cylinder, more grease will be pushed out the front of the cylinder, softening the fouling, keeping it from binding up. However, the percussion caps are more likely to fall in between the hammer and frame gap on the 1860’s, locking up the gun. With Murphy as my guardian angel, if anything could go wrong with a black powder gun it’ll happen on the clock. I am looking forward to The Book and I’ll see if I have anything that would benefit your program and expertise. Thanks, Alias: Billy Brent

  • @chairzombie8378

    @chairzombie8378

    3 ай бұрын

    Would love to do some frontiersman - I really enjoy percussion revolvers and would love to do CAS sometime.

  • @453421abcdefg12345

    @453421abcdefg12345

    3 ай бұрын

    Spot on observations from a man that has done it! You will find that a major problem with modern repros is that the hammer spring is FAR weaker than on an original, an original main spring gives circa 12 Lbs hammer pull, this goes a long way to hold the cap on the nipple on ignition, many fit an even lighter mainspring which makes the cap jam even more likely. Chris B.

  • @evangreen3209

    @evangreen3209

    3 ай бұрын

    My competition days were a long time ago. Did some regional matches and Winter Range a couple of times when I could bunk with my kids in Phoenix. My arsenal was a pair of Ruger Vaqueros and a Uberti 1866 rifle in .45 Colt. Shotgun an inexpensive Stoeger double barrel. Seldom in the winner's column but it was a lot of fun and great people.

  • @453421abcdefg12345

    @453421abcdefg12345

    3 ай бұрын

    @@evangreen3209 The main thing is to enjoy yourself! Too many people have only winning in mind, and are bitterly disappointed when they do not win, they just give up at that point, so never experience the pleasure and fun of competing, I had not realised you were a volunteer, well done you! Chris B.

  • @evangreen3209

    @evangreen3209

    3 ай бұрын

    @@453421abcdefg12345 Chris, thank you for the comment. It was fun to watch the top level competitors do amazing things with firearms. I was on a couple of squads in USPA with Rob Leatham. Nice guy. I started volunteering with the museum as host on the welcome desk in 2015. Curator of Collections knew I was a gun person and stopped by the desk with a cart of firearms coming off exhibit. I could identify almost all of them. He later offered me the opportunity to re-catalog the entire collection of almost 400 firearms. Because of this experience, I was asked to do the same work at two other museums. It's been a great retirement gig. I do about 20 hours a week at the State Museum.

  • @jennifert6982
    @jennifert69823 ай бұрын

    I've seen a belt rig of Confederate officer "Col. F.S. Bass" for a colt 1851 with a box to carry two extra cylinders while I was looking for historical examples of carrying extra cylinders. Also colt patersons were issued with extra cylinders, even when carried in pairs. I don't know how common it was after the Paterson but it definitely happened. Thanks for the great videos!

  • @evangreen3209

    @evangreen3209

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for that information. I have seen examples in Rock Island Auction catalogs with boxed Colt percussion revolvers with additional cylinders. Are you willing to share your findings? evan(dot)green(at)wyo(dot)gov. (KZread doesn't like email addresses or links.) I would appreciate knowing more.

  • @jeffryrichardson9105
    @jeffryrichardson91053 ай бұрын

    Very nice!👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸

  • @henrysara7716
    @henrysara77163 ай бұрын

    Great talking about two historical firearms

  • @evangreen3209

    @evangreen3209

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you. I appreciate your interest and support.

  • @453421abcdefg12345
    @453421abcdefg123453 ай бұрын

    For an "official" Museum the statement about the Colt 1860 wedge falling off and being lost is rather strange, the barrel wedge is ,(or should be on a new 1860), retained by the small screw that runs in a groove on the wedge, this groove has a stop on it which will not allow the wedge to come completely out until the screw is removed on the original, modern reproduction pistols often have this screw mis fitted, and the wedge can fall out, but we are comparing original pistols, the Remington has a very easily gummed up cylinder arbour, unlike the robust Colt item, and I am sure that in any extended action that would have been a problem, the cylinder is also a fiddly thing to replace, and it is difficult to cap up.

  • @evangreen3209

    @evangreen3209

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for that information. A couple of the old Colts in the collection are missing the wedge and the retaining screw. They were used hard and put up wet. A new gun, original or reproduction, would have a secure wedge. I don't have experience shooting either of these revolvers so I'm operating on research and hearsay. I have heard that the Colt was more prone to cap fragments tying up the action. Maybe that's modern reproductions?

  • @outdoorlife5396
    @outdoorlife53963 ай бұрын

    Is there anything you can do about the pitting?

  • @thebigone6071
    @thebigone60713 ай бұрын

    Yo y’all best listen up to my main man Evan here cause he knows guns better than anyone in yo hood!!!! He dropping dat knowledge left and right homies so educate yo self!!!! U goated Evan pow pow pow 👍🏿🐐🐐🙏🏿💥💥💥💯🔥

  • @evangreen3209

    @evangreen3209

    3 ай бұрын

    Yo Big One. Give my best to Stabby, Lil' Ricky, and Ricky C. Stay safe out there.

  • @thebigone6071

    @thebigone6071

    3 ай бұрын

    @@evangreen3209 yo u got it Evan u a real 1 my ninja no cap 🐐💯💯👍🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿👏🏿

  • @eulogio604
    @eulogio6043 ай бұрын

    Sin duda el Remington es muy superior al colt, pues si marco cerrado le confiere resistencia y mas precisión , yo desde hace muchos años compito en armas históricas y la diferencia entre el Remington y el colt es grande , saludos desde España 👍🤠

  • @chairzombie8378

    @chairzombie8378

    3 ай бұрын

    Tengo una Remington que se fabricó en la fábrica de Santa Bárbara, España, en los años 70. Es una arma maravillosa.

  • @eulogio604

    @eulogio604

    3 ай бұрын

    @@chairzombie8378 si yo lo tuve también muy buen material , aunque prefiero tirar con el f.pietta 👍🤠

  • @evangreen3209

    @evangreen3209

    3 ай бұрын

    Gracias por tus comentarios. Estoy de acuerdo en que la Remington es una pistola más fuerte y sería mi preferencia sobre la Colt. Cuénteme más sobre la competencia de armas históricas en su país, por favor. Me alegra mucho que comentes mis vídeos de España. Gracias

  • @evangreen3209

    @evangreen3209

    3 ай бұрын

    @@eulogio604 ¿Es tu Pietta una réplica de Remington? Pietta tiene una buena reputación por sus armas de fuego de calidad entre los tiradores de los Estados Unidos.

  • @eulogio604

    @eulogio604

    3 ай бұрын

    @@evangreen3209 si , la replica de pietta está muy bien

  • @user-zr6om8hm2c
    @user-zr6om8hm2c3 ай бұрын

    Old revolvers are interesting firearms.

  • @evangreen3209

    @evangreen3209

    3 ай бұрын

    They are some of my favorites along the early Winchesters.

  • @mikerobinson6606
    @mikerobinson66063 ай бұрын

    I find that the Remington models are not as ergonomic as well but they are built like tanks!

  • @evangreen3209

    @evangreen3209

    3 ай бұрын

    They were the Rugers of the day.

  • @mikerobinson6606

    @mikerobinson6606

    3 ай бұрын

    @evangreen3209 yes. I'm doubtful a person could break one.

  • @darreldwalton8763

    @darreldwalton8763

    3 ай бұрын

    GI's then weren't any different than today's crop. If it can be broken, a soldier, sailor, or even airmen (it might be argued by some, especially marines), it WILL be broken, and in the most unusual and unique way possible!

  • @evangreen3209

    @evangreen3209

    3 ай бұрын

    @@darreldwalton8763 My drill sergeant said a Marine could break a ball bearing with a toothpick. Some truth there.

  • @joecallahan3379

    @joecallahan3379

    3 ай бұрын

    Would be my choice, I have an old army Ruger, nice revolver.