My husband and I are going through this also alienated from 2 Grandchildren that we spent many hours with. Adult children are never going to let you continue to see your Grandchildren if you are estranged from them they are used as weapons! We have created our boundaries we are not items in a cupboard to be used at their discretion. We Love and miss our Grandchildren everyday but we realise now that our lives must continue! Everyone out there you have a right to not tolerate abuse and a right to live your life the way in which you choose. We write every month and send cards every birthday/occasion to our Grandchildren we dont know if they get them but i photograph everything as a record for the future if our Grandchildren come looking for us and hopefully they will based on their memories of us. Best wishes and hugs to all going through this.

@KittyCuties33

10 ай бұрын

I can understand you are in pain. I hope you find healing. While sometimes there is actual abuse happening, please consider that often, adult children are trying to protect their children from the pain they have gone through with their parents, especially if it's still continuing without parents owning or changing it. Out of protection and for emotional and mental health for themselves and their children, it is not using their own children as weapons. Many adult children do not want to be used by parents to get to grandchildren without trying to fix the relationship and show mutual respect to them and rebuild trust both ways for causing damage. It's disrespectful and very painful to go around adult children like that. While this can be very hard to hear, many adult children are trying to get very important messages across to their parents and need to be respected and understand too, and we would be wise as parents to listen with open minds and hearts and make healthy changes to heal the relationships. We are all worthy of compassion, respect, understanding, and encouragement. I hope you all find healing in your relationships. :)

@CharlotteCrummMarketing

4 ай бұрын

@@KittyCuties33 this. All of this.

You had me in tears. After having been out in the cold, and alone in the darkness for 10 years, I haven't cried for a while, but the minute Jeff, and Elaine starting speaking, and I could hear their pain, my own pain came to the surface again. Oh Dear! what's become of our children? Why all this heartbreak. I thought I will never get through a day, and yet, here I am, still breathing. Gardening, and other projects keeps me busy, and most of all reading helps me through the many lonely hours. Thanks for this video. May things soon change for the better, for all of us broken-hearted parents, and grand-parents.

@FamiliesDividedTV

11 ай бұрын

So very glad it was helpful. So sorry for your situation. I do hope other of our videos help you.

@johntuohy1867

10 ай бұрын

TheSybil47: Fair play to you. Keep intact and guard your peace at all costs. Best wishes

Don't fight at all. Walk away and pray. Look after yourself, and have a fabbo life. They will come to respect you in time if you do not appear needy and weak. Show them your power and strength. If they come and find you with a repentant heart then there may be hope, if not, it was never going to work anyway. You saved yourself a lot of pain and drama.

@sportsman4545

9 ай бұрын

As hard as it is, this is the best advice. You can't make an anorexic eat, you can't make a child lost to a cult, leave. It's not your fault. You are not wrong. Their behaviour is wrong but narcs will not even consider their role.

@ddhqj2023

8 ай бұрын

And what if you've done nothing to repent of? What if it really is that adult child and a twisted personality? Why do you people always accuse the parents and never accept that maybe the 'kid' is at fault? You think you're doing it all right and this will never happen to you with your kids and I can tell you from personal experience, you can do it all right and they could still turn on you. And if you've demonstrated that kind of willingness to banish people (your own parents?), then your kids have even more potential to dump you in turn. Children learn as much and maybe more, from your actions then from the words you speak. What are you demonstrating? In our case, we moved across the country to be close to my aging mother, and that's when our daughter kicked us to the curb. Everything seemed great until then.

@georgiamiles5644

5 ай бұрын

If they come and find you and THEY have a repentant heart. I hope that’s what you meant. Because even though I’ve forgiven her for the hurt that she’s caused me and the vile things that she’s said to me, it would be nice to see that she at least sees , in her mind, what’s real and what was made up. I don’t hold my breath.

@MikedeVeltaMusic

5 ай бұрын

@@georgiamiles5644 Who knows the future, but like you I know our relationship will never be the same, I cried as if my daughter died. I grieved the same. They are alive, but dead. They have cursed the tree by which they came. Unless God open their eyes you will not imho have a fruitful, close relationship that you had hoped for. It’s all fantasy from here on in. I have accepted the loss. Whether she is here or not, there’s no one at home. The love is not reciprocated and I will never trust her again. Bitter pill indeed, but the truth will set you free. Live large, be happy and nurture those who truly love you instead.

@CharlotteCrummMarketing

4 ай бұрын

@@ddhqj2023 cuz you raised them.

I’m going through this now and I’m amazed it’s so prevalent. Simply heartbreaking.

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

Truly nothing worse. So sorry you are having to deal with this.

@christinediener2362

9 ай бұрын

I am going through the same things it's heart breaking my children have t been at my house for eight years my grandchildren have never been at my hous 7:11 e

@christinediener2362

9 ай бұрын

It's so so sad I breath pray and cope thank you for sharing I am not alone I just pray

@christinediener2362

9 ай бұрын

Yes Exactly miss communication it's sad and heart breaking it's difficult and I pray everyday that my grandchildren all 5 love me I'm in tears at times Yes the more yu take I agree gets worse. Thank you for this video I am not alone

@CharlotteCrummMarketing

4 ай бұрын

@@christinediener2362 none of your children? Not just one? Thats rough. How many kids do you have? Was there any single event that led to this or did they give you a reason?

I am now at the point where I am grateful that I had a chance to experience being a grandma. This is the only way I am able to get through it now.

Thank you. My husband and I are going through something similar where my daughter has become verbally abusive (confrontational), to us based on what my 11 yr old granddaughter tells her lies and is very manipulative.... so for 3 weeks now we've been trying to cope but from time to time it's hard. This is a new generation, very confrontational and disrespectful and it's true.... "in our bad we never could think of doing what they are doing to us." *tears. We will not tolerate disrespect and we set boundaries and try to move on day by day. I refuse to stay on the phone with her while she is verbally abusive so I chose enough is enough.

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

So sorry you are going through this

@johntuohy1867

Жыл бұрын

I hear you loud and clear. The magnitude of vindictiveness is stifling and unimaginable that such treatment would ever have been directed at our own parents.Regardless of their flaws foibles shortcomings or faults they are still human and did the best with what they had to give their children a decent upbringing.. These days the attitude of many N. adult children is " You owe me forever after failing as a parent". Keep your peace at all costs.. Stay intact. Ignore infuriating taunts.Your daughter , like mine, may have to learn for herself the hard way.All the more painful for a parent to witness. Best wishes to you and your husband.

@RhondasLovelySparks

Жыл бұрын

@@johntuohy1867 your words resonate like a beautiful diamond - thank you. A few months ago she called us and showered us with things she would love to do for us like take us out to dinner, or take me to the beauty shop... she's been taking me on a 25-mile road trip to get boba tea, she calls and talks to me for hours. I love the feeling; however, I can't help to feel that I will be let down again. What my husband and I have done is always put ourselves first and not allow outsiders (including family) inside our circle (setting boundaries). No matter what....... it's taxing and has affected our health. For the last few years I have been creating ASMR KZread videos (not whispers), and "creating" has helped us heal (while helping others) with anxiety and stress. It has helped me feel that I can find beauty in my creativity while dealing with the hurt so I can "SEE" works (evidence) that I'm still alive and that my heart is not as broken as it seems.. Again... thank you.❣❣

@RhondasLovelySparks

Жыл бұрын

@@FamiliesDividedTV 💞 thankyou.

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

@@RhondasLovelySparks so welcome

What you are all going through is horrendous, but I am convinced that one day the grandchildren will see what the truth is and what they missed out on. They will be devastated. I’ve seen this happen. The grandchildren will be filled with regrets, but they will learn from this. I am sorry that their learning experience will be at the grandparents’ expense.

@FamiliesDividedTV

9 ай бұрын

Sadly, it could be too late. All of the time lost and memories not made.

It’s been horrible! I can’t describe the pain I carry every moment, every minute ect… I’ve been alienated not by my wrong doing but by my voicing my concerns regarding my grandsons well being!! It was decided by my sil I shouldn’t be involved in his life! It’s very complicated to say the least. My grandson loved his time with us he was with us once a week sometimes for almost the whole week. I’m the one who was there when no one else would step up to the plate! I wanted to show my grandson a normal loving family life, something I’ve never experienced when growing up or even my daughters growing up for that matter so I’ve tried to change the family dysfunction. I’m so confused and devastated, my daughter or her husband won’t even talk to me in any way! I’m sitting here in a living hell not knowing nor not allowed to know anything about my grandson! It feels like a part of my soul has died literally. I feel like I have been abused. This whole ordeal has left me paralyzed and void. I fear what they say regarding me and my husband to justify our abscence!! Omg how sad it is that narcissism personality and personality disorder can destroy something that’s good and loving!

@FamiliesDividedTV

2 жыл бұрын

I am so very sorry for what you are going through. I hope our you tube channel, website, webinars and conferences can be of help to you. xoxo

@kfj333

2 жыл бұрын

Same experience here. My granddaughter needed medical attention for a problem I found. He overheard me telling my mother and he assaulted me two days later. They went zero contact with us( her parents) , her brother, sister and her young children, and my mother who is on hospice and begging her to stop this. It’s demonic.

@FamiliesDividedTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@kfj333 So very sorry!

@julieannhalverson-perez3583

Жыл бұрын

@@kfj333 are things better Kathy I sure hope so. Now with it getting colder it only means the holidays!

@legalfictionnaturalfact3969

Жыл бұрын

"I feel like I have been abused".. well abused is not a feeling; it's a real status. specifically what happened? who said what? when and where?

This is my life. My first grandchild was born 16 months ago and have not been allowed in his life. I knew this was what would happen prior to this baby’s birth. My son and daughter have both been manipulated into believing that I am a narcissist, passive aggressive, toxic and abusive. This is so far from the truth. Losing my children this way has totally broken me. Also, by taking us from his life, he has taken his entire family from his life. He doesn’t see any of us. My last conversation via FB messenger because he won’t speak to me in person, I told him he was making the choice not to have me in his life but my door would always be open to him. I am now trying to find myself again to gain my self confidence and know I am not the person they have made me out to be. This whole situation has been devastating.

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

I am truly sorry. I do hope our videos help you.

@beaglerescue5281

10 ай бұрын

The Internet and social media is full of parent bashing information. It’s so tempting for our children to blame us for their failures.

@Tonnie31

3 ай бұрын

Social media is influencing kids to think all parents are horrible and narcissistic that’s all you hear nowadays everybody’s a narcissist

TY.. 1 grandbaby has been estranged for 20 months _ the other has been 7 months! I cannot keep dying on the inside for my ungrateful kids- whom I raised +pretty much+ Alone! And this happened because I did not approve of the ' new men' they placed in my babies lives... For their own damn selfish needs! Bless you & thanks again!

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

So very sorry for your situation. I do hope some of our other videos help you as well. God bless.

@sportsman4545

9 ай бұрын

Spend their inheritance.

So glad I found this. It is a heartbreaking issue and after struggling with this for 5 years I finally got my daughter to tell me what her problem was with me. I realized after reading and learning more about this new alienation phenomenon, that the real issue was with her struggles and not about me. I remained silent as she spewed out hateful lies and anger at me , shouting and calling me names, I just listened and felt so sad and sorry for her. I have tried to stay in contact with my Grandchildren, but it seems they also have been programed to ignore me. It is interesting to know that there are others out there who are going through this as well. Thank you for sharing and God bless.

@FamiliesDividedTV

10 ай бұрын

So glad it was helpful. I do hope other of our videos are helpful too.

@skr8674

8 ай бұрын

Threaten to take her out of the will!

I am terribly sorry for these grandparents. The Bible states in the end times adult children are going to turn away and narcissism is taking over these kids. They twist every thing around. All respect has been thrown out with the “baby and bathwater”.

@FamiliesDividedTV

Ай бұрын

So true.

Great show ! My mom is very alienated

@FamiliesDividedTV

2 жыл бұрын

So very sorry. Please let her know about our you tube channel, website and webinars. Also please share the videos and subscribe to our you tube channel. God bless. xoxo

It gets worse because thats their power. Its intentional. Kind of like losing a child to a cult. You can no sooner pull them out of a cult.

Heart is broken for all.

16 months and I'm still alive. But I wasn't sure I would make it this far. I'm mother and this is the hardest thing I have ever had to endure and it has profoundly changed me forever. But i will NEVER give up ❤❤❤

@FamiliesDividedTV

Ай бұрын

So sorry for your situation. No we must never give up. Stay strong and trust God. I do hope our videos help as well.

My granddaughters are being alienated from me. It began when I learned my 15 year old had earned a new position as a level seven gymnast. I told her the expectations will be more difficult, coaches will be different, accepting new challenges will be there for her to meet and conquer. This was said in front of her mom, sister and Papa. Next thing, Papa comes in and said they (mother) banned me from seeing the girls. I’ve never been confronted either by a phone call or text. We aren’t the victims, our granddaughters are the victims. We had a very close relationship with these girls. I just hope the oldest knows we love them and support each of them in their endeavors.

@FamiliesDividedTV

2 ай бұрын

So sorry for your situation. I hope our videos help you.

I notice the psychotherapist /social services community and the government seem to foster alienation. I was told to go no-contact by a therapist many years ago. I did not. I chose to learn to set boundaries. I moved over 1 hour away to limit contact to create a physical boundary but I still saw my family.

As an adult child, I forgave my mother when she apologized for her selfish behavior and poor choices when raising me. Her heart-felt apology made a difference. If she wouldve continued to made excuses, we wouldve never mended our relation. Nor would I have allowed her in our lives.

@FamiliesDividedTV

11 ай бұрын

So very glad for you both that you reunified.

@FamiliesDividedTV

10 ай бұрын

@@MJ-hope yes

@KittyCuties33

10 ай бұрын

@MJ-hope....Please understand that your statement was invalidating and disrespectful to the adult child above, who has also clearly been in pain and had real harm in family relationships. Adult children often feel deep pain and grief with these decisions too. I invite you to choose compassion over defensiveness. Forgiveness does not mean trust is rebuilt without the offender taking responsibility and changing harmful behaviors (either side in any relationship). We are all worthy of and need respect, compassion, understanding, and for each to own and change their part in the conflicts to be healthier together, whatever age we are. Adult children and parents both are allowed healthy boundaries and to have a voice to share what has hurt us and ask for healthy changes from the other. This is showing mutual respect and accountability and treating it as an adult relationship. Unfortunately, this hasn't been the case or still isn't for many. It's very sad. Trust takes time and consistent effort and change to rebuild, especially after deep wounds, even if it wasn't intentional. Pain is real for all of us, and that's okay.

@KittyCuties33

10 ай бұрын

@BLACK-antiLeft.....I'm so glad it's better with your mother now. I hope you both continue to find healing and growth. You are worthy of respect, encouragement, and warmth too. :)

@ddhqj2023

8 ай бұрын

Please understand that your comment is completely invalidating of the grandparent's experience and comes from a place of total ignorance about what the adult child in that instance was like. You assume that adult children are balanced, kind people but that is not always the case. Maybe you should MYOB. No, not maybe, you definitely should MYOB.@@KittyCuties33

One can heal without reunification, and go on to live a thriving, productive life. I feel that reality gets lost in these videos

I never wanted my daughter to have a child. Cause I knew she’d use the child as leverage. Went no contact with the hook that she might be in touch later. The only saving grace is that she went no contact when he was 5 months. Better that he has no idea who I am. As long as he doesn’t suffer. That’s all that matters.

@FamiliesDividedTV

9 ай бұрын

So very sorry. Stay strong and trust God! I do hope our videos help you.

When there is a true narcissist in the family who is causing damage to family members, no contact is advisable. But with every new psychological definition we learn there are casualties because some do their own diagnosis as an excuse to rule others. In this case it's really painful when grandparents who dearly love and cherish those little ones get cut off to satisfy a vindictive son or daughter trying to exercise control. This happened to me without my knowing why and i spent two years grinding my teeth at night not knowing what happened to my son or his kids. They at least owe you some reasonable explanation.

@FamiliesDividedTV

8 ай бұрын

So very true!

I raised my grandson from birth I assisted my daughter giving birth and I cut his cord and they both came home with me my daughter started running the streets doing drugs excetera so I took custody I'm located in Florida she took off to the Pennsylvanian the father went to prison when she was 4 months pregnant well he got out right before my grandson turns 6 a university Court battles and I was made to hand him over his father kept him away year I took him to court for visitation I was told I had no standing grandparents have no rights in the state of Florida I haven't seen him in 3 years it's a pain that does not go away the father was in prison for a violent home invasion when somebody got stabbed he was sentenced to 12 years but he only did 6 I just don't know how it go I feel like I just can't do it anymore

@1218kimber

Жыл бұрын

I’m so sorry you’re being treated this way.

Good discussion. In the THICK of it now. Thank you.

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

Praying it gets better. So glad the video helped.

It's heartbreaking to go through this. I watched him everyday for 5 yrs. Then my gson died and now can't see him.😭😭😭

@FamiliesDividedTV

2 жыл бұрын

Oh Christie, I am so very sorry. Please know you are in our prayers. God bless. xoxo

@elawilliam4777

2 жыл бұрын

How tragic, I'm so sorry for your loss.

@christieelliott4003

2 жыл бұрын

@@FamiliesDividedTV Thank you. It's not fair to him..

Oh my gosh, Elaine exactly! You are exactly correct. And mine is exactly like your experience.

Dear Elaine and Jeff, as long as we know in our conscience that we have not done anything wrong to in order to cause the alienation, then it is so vitally important to realise that the injustice, (in whatever form it takes place in our life), is really a blessing in disguise in order for us to be moulded (through suffering) and become Christ-like! And hence, to learn how to sacrificially love and pray for the ones that cause us pain and suffering! We urge you to engrave in your hearts the following bible verse, it will give you great comfort! (Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:10)

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for these wise words of wisdom.

I think the younger generation having kids are abusing there elderly parents using the grandkids as weapons thats what I see on this topic one day those adult children will be elderly how are they thinking they will handle this when its them going though this .

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

I guess sadly we will have to wait and see

@hiddenhand6973

5 күн бұрын

Honest question. How did you treat your elderly parents?

I feel that with these self centered adult children if they treat us with such contempt & disrespect let them go NOTHING you do is ever going to make them happy or like you , allot of these adult kids have so much anger & hatred for you , if that’s the case live your best life & let them go . Sad 😢 but necessary for your mental wellbeing.

My stepdaughter and her boyfriend do not allow my 13 year old granddaughter to speak to us. My granddaughter. Has been almost kidnapped she has no access to a phshe is at home with her abusive mother's boyfriend. Who doesn't work and is alone with him all day. He hates her he has told her she should have been aborted and then showed her a picture of an aborted baby baby. She thinks That's her father so she puts up with it. Her mother has lied to her whole life. And she believes her mother of course because she loves her very much. We are in such a terrible terrible situation we are so heartbroken. I am crying again as I write this because every time I think about it. I have to cry I can't do anything other than that. I have tried so many ways to call to contact her and it just doesn't work. I never thought in my entire life that's something so terrible could happen in the family.

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

I am so sorry your family is going through this. I pray these videos here help you. Perhaps seek counseling. Praying.

@caryschwencke2730

11 ай бұрын

I'm concerned also about my grandson s well being. I'm being isolated because I have tried to talk with them about that. I'm so worried but my hands are tied. I don't know how to mend this year.

@Yolduranduran

11 ай бұрын

@@caryschwencke2730 without knowing the details I would say make sure to stay close so that u can protect him and let him know how much u love him. God bless you

Absolutely broken hearted Am going through this at the moment Completely devasting Pray and put it in God's hands

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

I am so very sorry for your situation. Trusting God is the only way. I hope our you tube channel and website helps you. God bless.

@legalfictionnaturalfact3969

Жыл бұрын

what happened?

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 Who are you asking this?

@legalfictionnaturalfact3969

Жыл бұрын

@@FamiliesDividedTV when there is no name in front of the comment, it means the comment is for the oc.

My grandchildren were used as weapons against me at Christmas. They were not allowed to be near me. Who does that? Still haven't seen them, won't. I apologized, because it was a good example. The conversion I was held to account for in fact did include, we need to talk to your siblings first. That part forgotten, I was punished. Conclusion, my grandchildren are beautiful, I am constantly being lied to about why they can't make it, the rare times I see my son. It breaks my heart to know that 2 beautiful children are being raised by narcissistic, intellectually stunted parents. Closed off to the love not just I have, but also my ex. These children are being deprived. Someday, my son will live what it's like. Of course he will, he is teaching his own just how. I love my grandchildren, of course I know, unless I remove myself, they will be hurt more. Nope, I don't abuse children, or elderly for that matter. My heart is broken, fortunately my grandchildren are young, they don't know people are missing, at least so far. In time, they may.

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

I am truly sorry for all of this. I hope the videos we have here will help you. Reach out to a professional if you feel the need.

@johntuohy1867

10 ай бұрын

Fair play to you. All of your patience and tolerance and compassion and forbearance are all required all at once. It can be utterly exhausting and exasperating and soul crushing . Whatever brings you peace guard it at all costs.Stay intact .Your children will have to learn, perhaps the hard way, consequences of such cold heartedness. Thank you.

It still hurts!

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

I know. Please stay strong and trust God.

This is so heartbreaking. These same children who alienate their parents can forgive everyone else but keep a vendetta against their parents. My daughter is the same way she stopped talking to me recently and trying to keep my grandkids away since she’s been dating this horrible abusive man. My daughter forgives him for any and everything but holds a grudge against me for any and every thing.

@FamiliesDividedTV

2 ай бұрын

I truly understand. Makes no sense. So sorry for your situation. I do hope our videos help you.

@hiddenhand6973

5 күн бұрын

This is why we are estranged from our parents. Mom forgives and enables every bad behavior of dad so we went no contact. The abuser and enabler can have each other. There’s no conversation that ever changes behavior. You just have to walk away.

A list of books or articles would help. Thank u

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

We have on our website a web page for books to help alienated family members.

This is so sad. I don't know what's harder.. having a relationship taken away, or never having one at all. That's my boat. I have two grandchildren that I have not met.

@FamiliesDividedTV

22 күн бұрын

I truly understand. I am so sorry for your situation. I do hope our videos help you.

💔 unimaginable pain.

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

I do understand. xoxo

@michelletesta5864

Жыл бұрын

@@FamiliesDividedTV unfortunately so many do.

@michelletesta5864

Жыл бұрын

@@FamiliesDividedTV An horrific epidemic

I believe most alienation has to do with a jealousy. The fact that grandchildren adore their grandparents and one of the spouses feels insecure about it. Additionally, the adult child might have a jealousy that they felt their parent gave better love to the grandchild than to them.

@lauramobley2797

9 ай бұрын

I feel that way too, my daughter is jealous of her daughter, the excitement she gets when she comes around and the joy she brings to us, (She is 4). My daughter had her time when she was little of the grandparents bring excited about her being around.. It's my grandbabies turn to have the attention! We are just now starting down this long miserable road.

@sportsman4545

8 ай бұрын

@lauramobley2797 sorry. It's a true evil on the part of the alienator. Somebody's orchestrated and it's not the one who is trying to fix it.

@danaendelaney4549

3 ай бұрын

I have heard this happens.

@Kwood10

5 күн бұрын

Yes my daughter told me as much she said you love him more than me!!

Sounds like what has happened to us😭😭😭

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

So very sorry. I understand.

Well my grandson was almost 13 and my granddaughter was 8.I went through hell for 4yrs.The kids knew all along how much i loved them .I cried for 4yrs and in and out the hospital. I have 0communication with my daughter. But my grandkids..They are in my life like they never left. I suffered. But she still tries with my grandson to say things about me.He got mad and told her.He doesn't want to hear it A social worker at the time the kidd will have a relationship with me.She was right I love my daughter but she's still cold and cruel. She doesn't feel empathy So I don't trust her anymore.There was a time she was my best friend. I got to sick .i can't ever take a chance. She did to much to me

@FamiliesDividedTV

7 ай бұрын

So terribly sad. I hope our videos help. Stay strong and trust God.

My sister and brother-in-law's young grown grandson met and married a young woman from a strict religious sect and thereafter rejected and went no contact with both his parents and grandparents. His mother managed to visit him once but was forbidden to meet her two grandchildren. Both my sister and her husband and her son and wife are warm, moral, upstanding people who contribute to the community and treat all their children and grandchildren with interest, gentility and express their love, appreciation and pride in them. I've never seen even a hint of anything related to narcissism or inappropriate behavior, yet the grandson has treated them like criminals for years, not even responding when his grandad died. Heartbreaking. The only clue is the religious beliefs being so different.

@FamiliesDividedTV

8 ай бұрын

So very sorry.They truly are nor following God's Word.

I will NEVER give up on you James ! I'm so sorry this happened to you! James please know that None of this is your fault!! Mimi has an army of loved ones who are helping me. Hold on tight my sweet guy.

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

Much love and many prayers for you both. xoxo

This sums it all up right here and unless abuse happened there is no reason for it. God sums it all up here: 2 Timothy 3:1-9 King James Bible ▾ Evil in the Last Days 1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

I am an estranged mother and grandmother. It has been a cycle over and over and always years using my 4 grandchildren and punish me with no contact . This time I said this is the last I can’t go through this unbearable pain anymore. One of the tactics my daughter uses when she says no contact don’t contact her or her husband or any of her children. She usually gets the children to call me and worms her way back into my life I have a very close bond with my grandchildren, especially my eldest granddaughter, who is nine years old. me and my husband have decided that they use their children as a resource to Weaponized me and when the want something or need some thing they use their children like puppets to pick up the phone and call and just form their way back into my life. What do I do when my granddaughter calls me and text me and tells me she misses me how do I cope with that? How do I break this pattern? I don’t wanna hurt her damage my grandchildren and cut them off, but they said no contact if I answer and talk to them and violating their boundaries what do I do? I’m so stuck.

@FamiliesDividedTV

8 ай бұрын

So very sorry for your situation. You may want counseling with this.

It takes a LOT for a child to cut their parents out of their life. I would like to hear the other side of the story. I don't hear any accountability from either of these parents and I would bet that lack of insight has a lot to do with their estrangement.

I am tired of waiting for them to be ready reconcile. I told my two estranged adult sons that I do not want to ever see them again. I cut them from my life forever. Maybe if these narcissistic self-absorbed adult children realized that there is no"do-over" button. No open-door policy. If they burn that bridge, there is no coming home.

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Жыл бұрын

Everyone must handle their own situation in the way they believe is best. If you have peace about this, then perhaps you move on and do not dwell on it.

We have been 8 years it is so hard

@FamiliesDividedTV

9 ай бұрын

I am sorry. I do understand. I hope our videos help.

I'm special too

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

We all are including our children and our grandchildren

My story is almost exactly like Elaine’s. I don’t have no clue why this is happening. My grandson is two years old. I got to see him two times after he was born for about 45 minutes. Every time I wanted to see him there was an excuse on why I could not. I was not invited to his baby shower, nor was my mother and the reasoning was that my daughter-in-law only wanted people there that loved her. I don’t understand that never did anything to her. I have never been invited to a birthday party. I have never seen him but in pictures that I get from other people from social media because I’m blocked. All the pictures in my house I have printed from friends Facebook pages. I have never been given any pictures of him. I have sent presents with my other son for birthdays and holidays and I never get a thank you or he liked it or a picture of him with it nothing. It’s sad, but I think it has a lot to do with the in-laws And that side of the family. They are the only ones allowed to be around the child and the church. I don’t know what kind of church does that and instills in peoples minds that it’s OK to not move on and not hold grudges and not be kind. I’m baffled. It is the hardest thing. I think of my son every single day I think of my grandson every single day and I love them both with all my heart, but I will never be able to get over what my son has been able to do when I was always a good mom to him.

@FamiliesDividedTV

10 ай бұрын

So sorry you are going through all of this. I do hope other of our videos help you as well.

@sportsman4545

9 ай бұрын

I've got "one of those". Interesting how one person, Christian no less, can cause so much damage. I pray for their happiness. I heard 1 in 7 grandparents are alienated.

@FamiliesDividedTV

9 ай бұрын

@@sportsman4545 Tragic for sure

Unless there is abuse grandparents need to understand, that being a grandparent is a privilege not a right.

If the daughter in law cannot speak up and communicate in the beginning, she sounds very immature.

I was listening to the gentleman talking about the church and how they don't know how to deal with this issue but I would like to add that sometimes religion is much to blame so they are apart of the problem. And most times the adult children go to church and process Christ but Christ never taught hate he taught love. So keeping grandchildren away from grandparents in no way is of Christ.

Grandparents don’t deserve rights! They should have been good parents to their children! Unless the children are being abused and neglected then maybe grandparent, can get visitation.

It happened to close friends, it's better not to say anything about their well being it causes rifts, I know that sounds terrible but that's just how it is nowadays... promise u will not interfere anymore, that might be the only way....sorry

Narcissist children.... make no mistake they only care about their selves... move on .....I went no contact .... my choice !!!

I would just leave them alone. Good riddance.

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

Each person has to decide what is best for them to give them peace.

@joelhoye1

Жыл бұрын

I am the person that went no contact. My parents are both great grandparents and have never been invited. My dil is from a very toxic and dysfunctional family. My parents have given up ever meeting my grandson. Who does this to family after being married?! Why has it already been five years of abuse? I will never trust my son again, he doesn't stand up for me anymore because he gets treated badly if he does. But, I will in no way say it is all her. My son was growing into a narcissist long before he met his first wife, who by the way, was also horrible to me. I never abused my son. I was raised by a drug addict and I took parenting classes and my son and I had a counselor it did no good. Because, most counselors don't understand the bullying and aggressive behaviors because I was too ashamed to admit my son was a big bully.

God made them wander in the desert for how many years? Moses never saw the promised land.

This is weird not my case

@FamiliesDividedTV

Жыл бұрын

It is quite like many others

You are not entitled access to the children of people whom you have harmed. A parents' job is to protect their children. If you are unable to acknowledge the harm you inflict on your own children, why would they trust you to not commit the same harm on their children.

Yes, this has been awful. I have grandchildren I haven't even held in my arms. My son and his wife have been brainwashed by a religious cult.

@FamiliesDividedTV

4 ай бұрын

I am sorry for your situation. I do hope more of our videos help you.

The man started off by denying.

@FamiliesDividedTV

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Your point?

Bad parent karma 😂😂