I have that same pedal and I love it, I play worship music and I love the fact I can still use hi-hat and get a quick gallop type sound then back to single pedal and not loose time,nor have extra pedal in the way.. I try the double bass pedal with 2 pedals and I threw it too the side and went back to this pedal.. the type of shoe you wear is a big factor too, I use a sneaker with good padding at the heel, it allows for less movement on the heel part of the pedal and it just feels better with more power and this is well made..

Like a Dualist pedal without the redonkulous price!

@justinnaramor6050

Жыл бұрын

It's actually better than the dualist because it requires you to step on the pedal with your heel to trigger the other beater. It means that triplets, for instance, will feel more natural to play because either the heel or toe comes down on any one of the downbeats in the triplet rhythm. On the other hand, the dualist works by triggering the second beater when the pedal is lifted completely up. You can see how problematic that becomes for triplets, because at some point a downbeat happens on the upward motion of the pedal, which is pretty unnatural. Plus it means you're always gonna have the second beater hitting the drum when your foot is lifted even if that's not what you wanted, and you have to hit another freaking lever on the device to keep the second beater from hitting the drum so you can avoid those unintended double hits, or else try to use your foot to balance the pedal in its center position such that the second beater never hits the drum. Do you see how stupid that is? Do you see how this is problematic? It's simply unnatural technique. I'm all for having 2 beaters in a single pedal, but the Sonor Twin Effect pedal shown in this video performs the task in a way that's simply much better than the dualist because it works on an entirely different mechanical principle. You don't need to hit another lever to keep the second beater from hitting the drum, because the pedal is already in its center position by default, requiring you to hit the pedal with either your toe or your heel to trigger either of the 2 beaters. And, as a single pedal (I.E where you want to play it without doing double bass stuff), you have the option of triggering the drum using either your toe or your heel, rather than using only one or the other. Traditional bass drum pedals do not have the ability to oscillate in both directions; you hit them near the toe or heel end and they're stopped at the other end, so when you try to push the other end of the pedal downwards, you don't get anything.

@justinnaramor6050

Жыл бұрын

@@bobbymurray9015 It's actually better than the dualist because it requires you to step on the pedal with your heel to trigger the other beater. It means that triplets, for instance, will feel more natural to play because either the heel or toe comes down on any one of the downbeats in the triplet rhythm. On the other hand, the dualist works by triggering the second beater when the pedal is lifted completely up. You can see how problematic that becomes for triplets, because at some point a downbeat happens on the upward motion of the pedal, which is pretty unnatural. Plus it means you're always gonna have the second beater hitting the drum when your foot is lifted even if that's not what you wanted, and you have to hit another freaking lever on the device to keep the second beater from hitting the drum so you can avoid those unintended double hits, or else try to use your foot to balance the pedal in its center position such that the second beater never hits the drum. Do you see how stupid that is? Do you see how this is problematic? It's simply unnatural technique. I'm all for having 2 beaters in a single pedal, but the Sonor Twin Effect pedal shown in this video performs the task in a way that's simply much better than the dualist because it works on an entirely different mechanical principle. You don't need to hit another lever to keep the second beater from hitting the drum, because the pedal is already in its center position by default, requiring you to hit the pedal with either your toe or your heel to trigger either of the 2 beaters. And, as a single pedal (I.E where you want to play it without doing double bass stuff), you have the option of triggering the drum using either your toe or your heel, rather than using only one or the other. Traditional bass drum pedals do not have the ability to oscillate in both directions; you hit them near the toe or heel end and they're stopped at the other end, so when you try to push the other end of the pedal downwards, you don't get anything.

@justinnaramor6050

Жыл бұрын

@@bobbymurray9015 Ah! OK then. Guess I didn't catch that or something :)))

@theysayisagorilla

4 ай бұрын

Not like a dualist. And its not better. The dualist allows u to play heel up. And the second note is played on the upstroke.

Thanks brother man for doing such a great job explaining this pedal! I just saw an ad on Facebook for this battle and was curious and it looks really cool! ROCK ON & G💖D BLESS BROTHERMAN! 🤟😎🥁🥁💕🎵🎵🎶💕🎵🎶

My only issue is it wld seem this pedal may b uncomfortable for a player like myself who always has my heel up. It seems id have completely redesign my play style for my foot.

I have one, they are great, it took 15-20 min to get it set up to how i play or what was comfortable for me and didn't have an extra pedal in the way and I could also keep hi-hat closed and still get double bass sound when I needed it for the jazzy stuff I play and very well built.. take your time with it to get used to it

I have a question for anyone that might have encountered a similar issue about this pedal. I play with two of these on two kick drums. I adjust the back pedal high enough for my heel toe technique to come more natural. However, when I do this, the base of the pedal comes upward, which tilts the kick drum upward as well. This is problematic for me not so much for my drum hoops (although I worry about those as well) but some times my pedal won't hit the drum because of it. The drum screws that are meant to dig into the drum rug don't really dig in very well either. Any insight on how to fix this is much appreciated.

Where can I get this and what is it called?

Very cool!

Are these pedals still available? Where are you located?

This pedal reminds me of my giant step pedal.

where can I buy this ? The website looks like its down.

@kbaweshumvideos7454

5 жыл бұрын

They went out of business. BUT there could be a few floating around Amazon will or eBay.

how much are they pounds sterling?

Is it possible to replace two direct drives on this pedal?

Where do you get it

Where can i get this

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Check out the Duallist. Better pedal better quality

@justinnaramor6050

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, but I think you're missing something that's very important. In a way this pedal is actually better than the dualist for a very important reason: because it requires you to step on the pedal with your heel to trigger the other beater. It means that triplets, for instance, will feel more natural to play because either the heel or toe comes down on any one of the downbeats in the triplet rhythm. On the other hand, the dualist works by triggering the second beater when the pedal is lifted completely up. You can see how problematic that becomes for triplets, because at some point a downbeat happens on the upward motion of the pedal, which is pretty unnatural. Plus it means you're always gonna have the second beater hitting the drum when your foot is lifted even if that's not what you wanted, and you have to hit another freaking lever on the device to keep the second beater from hitting the drum so you can avoid those unintended double hits, or else try to use your foot to balance the pedal in its center position such that the second beater never hits the drum. Do you see how stupid that is? Do you see how this is problematic? It's simply unnatural technique. I'm all for having 2 beaters in a single pedal, but the Sonor Twin Effect pedal shown in this video performs the task in a way that's simply much better than the dualist because it works on an entirely different mechanical principle. You don't need to hit another lever to keep the second beater from hitting the drum, because the pedal is already in its center position by default, requiring you to hit the pedal with either your toe or your heel to trigger either of the 2 beaters. And, as a single pedal (I.E where you want to play it without doing double bass stuff), you have the option of triggering the drum using either your toe or your heel, rather than using only one or the other. Traditional bass drum pedals do not have the ability to oscillate in both directions; you hit them near the toe or heel end and they're stopped at the other end, so when you try to push the other end of the pedal downwards, you don't get anything.

Sorry, but the Duallist made this obsolete.

Duuuuuude!

You would think a drummer would know that saying "it's like 4 notes hitting at the same time" isn't what's happening and then WTF was that hand roll thing!!!!!

This bloke doesn’t sound like he works in a drum shop for some reason lol

Lol..

Cost?

@justme.8880

5 жыл бұрын

@@rexracer7718 thank you gd . Very cool pedal. Any idea why discontinued? Thanks again super informative!

@GaryPiazza

5 жыл бұрын

$64 bucks sounded good but the shipping was $100+ Wow!

@JoshWood1000

4 жыл бұрын

made by drum tec?

From the looks of things, its prrtty crappy, the slave pedal has a smaller range of motion compared to the main pedal, so youll never get even hits, also, it clearly has unwanted wobble.

How you make a paradiddle with this pedal? Just for make brrrrr? Mewww

@hannes1734

3 жыл бұрын

Why would you want ro do a paradiddle with one foot? Can you do a paradiddle with one hand?

@luismiguelgarcia4074

3 жыл бұрын

@@hannes1734 Because with my hands I can make some dinamics and accents achieving some musicality, not a roll with nothing but noise, very fast? Sure, but I just heard one simple roll

@hannes1734

3 жыл бұрын

@@luismiguelgarcia4074 If you want to play paradiddles, you use a regular double pedal. This pedal is for playing single stroke rolls with one foot so the other one is free to deal with the hihat or other foot percussion.

@luismiguelgarcia4074

3 жыл бұрын

@@hannes1734 Ok. I'm a big fan of less is more, but anyway, this pedal havent the precision of the human feet, is the only thing I said. Ive saw a lot of doubles played by Krupa, Rich, Roach or Tommy Igoe with primitive hardware but soul inside, with a lot of skills and feelings that this pedal never will do. Thats all, folk

@AnkothOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

To do paradiddle I guess you just play the parts that you would normally play, with your other foot, on a regular db pedal, with your heel on this pedal. So you essentially go toe - heel - toe -toe.

This contraption is a colossal failure

@justinnaramor6050

Жыл бұрын

Not if it allows you to play double strokes on the kick drum while leaving your other foot free to perform hi-hat footwork. But of course, stupid stuck-in-the-past traditionalists will happily talk shit about pedals like this :/! Pedals of this kind just show how fundamentally flawed traditional double bass drum pedals really are. If double bass pedals restrict your usage of the hi-hat, they are flawed by design. You'd think the 2-beaters-in-one-pedal concept for double bass drumming would've been the way to go decades ago, because it's just so logically obvious, but apparently that's not what happened :/! I swear, traditionalists are holding back progress. They will happily proclaim the traditional methods as the be-all end-all, "best" method... then they cry and scream and talk shit about you if you do it in a non-traditional way :/ :/ :/ :/ :/ :/ :/!

@mikedee5253

8 ай бұрын

​@@justinnaramor6050 people resist change and the market responds to people's wants . I love this pedal and have been thinking about a heel pedal for 40 years. It's way more natural to pivot your foot on your toe than on your heel and you have way more power pushing down on your heel. Just try standing up and and playing a conventional pedal then turn that pedal around so your heel is operating the beater, there's no comparison as to what is more natural and powerful.

@justinnaramor6050

8 ай бұрын

@@mikedee5253 Yeah, pivoting on your toe just makes sense; I can indeed confirm it feels more natural. You can confirm this even without any kind of pedal, bass drum or otherwise. Reminds me of an idea I have where I'd play piano + foot percussion at the same time; my idea is to anchor the front of my foot on the piano sustain pedal, using the front of foot as fulcrum, while my heel would come down onto a bass drum pedal (or a snare drum pedal, or a crash cymbal pedal for instance). I've tested this idea just on the floor, without a drum pedal, and it feels very natural.

This pedal looks cheap as hell

dualist is better

Cheating, lazy!!!!! Practice!!!!!

@AnkothOfficial

2 жыл бұрын

How's this cheating? Not everyone is Nico Mcbrain to accomplish intricate double bass patterns with a single pedal, and likewise, people may want some fast double bass (in the style of Slayer, Cannibal Corpse, Septicflesh etc.) Whilst being able to use the high hat pedal, which is impossible on a regular double bass pedal, unless you have like three feet or something.

@tzon6802

Жыл бұрын

@@AnkothOfficial You have no idea what you are talking about

@AnkothOfficial

Жыл бұрын

@@tzon6802 Really? Let's see you play high hats AND double bass drum AT THE SAME TIME then to a fast metal song, like Hammer Smashed Face by CC, using a regular double pedal, smart ass. The whole limitation of double bass vs hats, has been prevalent for many years, hence why things like this pedal, the drop clutch, X hats and other shenanigans exist, in an attempt to conquer this limitation. But no, I have "no idea what I'm talking about". It's not like there are quadruple pedal drummers put there, such as the guy from henker, who push these pedals to the limits by using two at once on two basses and achieving quadruple bass. As I've said, not everyone can pull off continuous torrents of semiquavers with one foot. I know what I'm talking about from personal experience - I've worked with drummers who have told me that they cannot play the parts that I've written as they are beyond their skill level to play, as they contain fast and continuous bass drum parts while opening and closing the high hat. But no "I have no idea what I'm talking about", says some funny guy from the internet, just because he wants to sound smart. 😄 gosh your response is hilarious 😂. You haven't even bothered to describe what makes you think so or call me out on anything in particular, you just straight up put down such a pointless response, just to have a little troll no doubt. You're funny, and I hope you have the satisfaction you were so dying to get when you get the reaction you craved when you get this reply.

@justinnaramor6050

Жыл бұрын

@@tzon6802 You are clearly the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. Shadow Von Nyx spoke the fucking truth, like it or not. If any pedal like this is cheating, that honor goes to the dualist. Lol! Even the dualist isn't really cheating though, because it still requires input from you, just as every fucking drum pedal ever made. Only difference is that the pedal shown here performs the 2-beaters-on-one-pedal task in a way that's much better than the dualist.