Twilight Saga: ECLIPSE is the WORST - Team Jacob is cancelled

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  • @AmandaTheJedi
    @AmandaTheJedi3 жыл бұрын

    Even if this one's the worst... I still love it😎

  • @trinaq

    @trinaq

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too, it serves as a guilty pleasure of mine! 😉

  • @seraphim-kpopdreamcorpsear5255

    @seraphim-kpopdreamcorpsear5255

    3 жыл бұрын

    Every thirteen year old White girl likes Twilight.

  • @murrenkelly3866

    @murrenkelly3866

    3 жыл бұрын

    Twilight will always be the best background movies for painting nails or cleaning the house

  • @Aalisrocklist

    @Aalisrocklist

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wish there was something like Audible, but with people reading the books in a sarcastically dramatic way

  • @slianyong7550

    @slianyong7550

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Aalisrocklist I might listen to that

  • @AmorJonatico1
    @AmorJonatico13 жыл бұрын

    "How was ANYONE Team Jacob" Because I was 12 and Taylor Lautner had abs and wasn't pale... that's it.

  • @AmandaTheJedi

    @AmandaTheJedi

    3 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the honesty

  • @georginalouise95

    @georginalouise95

    3 жыл бұрын

    Now nearly 30 and I’ve realised I’m team Charlie... not for Bella (obvs)... for me

  • @greenunicorn9908

    @greenunicorn9908

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t remember anything about that movie except for those abs

  • @kennedyblanchard6637

    @kennedyblanchard6637

    3 жыл бұрын

    Literally Robert's sideburns made me team jacob

  • @cheeseisherelive753

    @cheeseisherelive753

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@georginalouise95 not me being closeted Team Carlisle 😂

  • @senpaijecho
    @senpaijecho3 жыл бұрын

    stephenie meyer really went ahead and wrote bella's mom as horrible mother just bc she got a divorce, but thought that jacob imprinting on a baby was completely fine, yikes

  • @26349

    @26349

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mormons be mormons. Grooming is a normal thing in their circles while a divorce is "you'll go to hell for that" type of thing.

  • @idontneedaname318

    @idontneedaname318

    3 жыл бұрын

    mormons gotta mormon

  • @dreamiinotdream730

    @dreamiinotdream730

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how much better Twilight would’ve been if Stephanie wasn’t a mormon

  • @lafkalaf6374

    @lafkalaf6374

    3 жыл бұрын

    I actually didn't know Stephenie was a mormon, it explains A LOT ! 😱

  • @fangirldreamer748

    @fangirldreamer748

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dreamiinotdream730 Bella would’ve been. In a polyamory relationship, with Alice and Jasper. Or a lesbian, relationship with Alice.

  • @katarinamonkova114
    @katarinamonkova1143 жыл бұрын

    I read somewhere that Rosalie intentionally created this "bland" persona and would always think about superficial things around him so Edward doesn't actually read her mind and leaves her alone and I love this idea.

  • @jenniferwilson9650

    @jenniferwilson9650

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hate to admit that I read the books but, my sister was obsessed and I'll read whatever I can get my hands on when I'm bored. So, I totally agree. I do think Rosalie actually hung onto her humanity more than the others. That's why she was such a raging bitch. She wanted what they had so, shut herself down. She knew, as a vampire that her anger could lead to destruction. I feel like whole stories could have been written about the better characters in these series. I was also 90% sure Stephanie Meyer was a 12yr old girl who had no clue how to write. Tbh, the books are terrible.

  • @evelynharber6077

    @evelynharber6077

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jenniferwilson9650 Okay you didn't like the books but an awful lot did and do! It was written from a teen girls perspective so that is why it is as it is. Robert Pattinson has said that to him the books are actually Stephanie Meyers dream sexual fantasy and reading them one can understand that. At least someone somewhere thought them worth printing and then filming so they can't be that bad, wouldn't you agree?!

  • @misstweetypie1

    @misstweetypie1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@evelynharber6077 yes, someone did think them worth it, from a monetary perspective, but not from a quality perspective.

  • @AK-fr5zv

    @AK-fr5zv

    Жыл бұрын

    @@evelynharber6077 A potential for income is not the same as quality.

  • @evelynharber6077

    @evelynharber6077

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AK-fr5zv I do not think the readers are concerned about the literary standards as much as an enjoyable story. As said this book fulfills the requirements needed to entice young teens to read and mature women to enjoy. I truly believe authors write because of a need to tell a story more than for financial gain! Stephanie Meyer wrote because she had a story, a dream, that needed to be put to paper never seeing its earning potential. What she obtained is a very rare gift rarely seen in the literary world so don't squash this rare gift given to so few. J.K. Rowlings also had the need and look what it gave to her. Both ladies are unique and what happened was unique in the literary world I believe.

  • @VictoreFloris
    @VictoreFloris3 жыл бұрын

    My father, who read the books when they came out, when he was in his 30s, because his little sister, my aunt who was around 16 at the time said she read them and thought they where bad has always said that he’s “Team everyone gets therapy”

  • @rachaelknudsen8801

    @rachaelknudsen8801

    2 жыл бұрын

    I read them all as they were released and love them. And by love them, I mean I think all the characters need intensive therapy.

  • @qwizzler

    @qwizzler

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marieavril9470 true its best girls don't read at all so they aren't exposed to anything that might scare them.

  • @a.p907

    @a.p907

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am also team everyone gets therapy

  • @katburgess5926
    @katburgess59263 жыл бұрын

    No, please, keep talking about Alice she's the best part.

  • @trinaq

    @trinaq

    3 жыл бұрын

    Totally, Alice is the BEST part of this entire franchise, and she's FAR more compelling than Bella EVER was!

  • @thomasraines1396

    @thomasraines1396

    3 жыл бұрын

    It reminds of the trailer for “Legend of The Guardians: The Owls of Ga’Hoole” where one of the characters proclaims “No keep going this is the best part!”

  • @thomasraines1396

    @thomasraines1396

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@trinaq a slab of drying cement is more compelling then Bella ever will be.

  • @Dreigonix

    @Dreigonix

    3 жыл бұрын

    Alice unironically best girl.

  • @precious2060

    @precious2060

    3 жыл бұрын

    She's the only reason why I even bother reading through all of the books.

  • @zelamorre1126
    @zelamorre11263 жыл бұрын

    "I saw this thing about abusive teenage relationships, and I thought I'd like to try that out with you!" - Jacob in Eclipse.

  • @Mieczyslaw_Mason

    @Mieczyslaw_Mason

    3 жыл бұрын

    you my dude(dudette)? deserve a medal.

  • @saanasalonen8684

    @saanasalonen8684

    3 жыл бұрын

    lmao good comment!

  • @unlimon6382

    @unlimon6382

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Mieczyslaw_Mason dudette is my new favourite English word

  • @Mieczyslaw_Mason

    @Mieczyslaw_Mason

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@unlimon6382 glad to hear that! :D

  • @justastudent1423

    @justastudent1423

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Mieczyslaw_Mason dudette has been added to my vocabulary

  • @inasaira8380
    @inasaira83803 жыл бұрын

    i loved that edward emphasizes “against her will”. Hes not concerned about her cheating on him he just wants jacob to respect her wishes even if that means him getting cheated on. This is the same guy who broke into her room to watch her sleep in the first book. Do you know what that is? GROWTH.😂😂 we stan a consent king 👑

  • @rizahawkeyepierce1380

    @rizahawkeyepierce1380

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, he still disables her car to prevent her going anywhere without his permission, so I don't know about growth...but at least he does the bare minimum in not wanting her to be assaulted. Hooray...

  • @inasaira8380

    @inasaira8380

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rizahawkeyepierce1380 lol its a joke. the standards in twilight are so comically low that edward defending bella's right to cheat on him as long as its consensual, is the height of romance in this series.

  • @rizahawkeyepierce1380

    @rizahawkeyepierce1380

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@inasaira8380 lol yeah. And if it weren't for his other actions, it'd be a pretty good line, but alas...

  • @Dreigonix

    @Dreigonix

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ah, if only this one moment was the standard for his character throughout the series...

  • @inasaira8380

    @inasaira8380

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Dreigonix shhh we dont talk about the other stuff.😂😂😂😂

  • @elderlybrunch4169
    @elderlybrunch41692 жыл бұрын

    *Jacob and Edward arguing* Bella: can you just be Jacob, and you just be Edward, and I'm Bella? Jacob: but I AM a werewolf, and he IS a vampire. Bella: And I'M a Virgo! The best line in Eclipse

  • @morgueish

    @morgueish

    10 ай бұрын

    It's been so long since I've read the books I have no idea if this is real or not

  • @elderlybrunch4169

    @elderlybrunch4169

    10 ай бұрын

    @morgueish it's 100% real I promise 🤣🤣 Bella was waaay more witty in the books

  • @morgueish

    @morgueish

    10 ай бұрын

    @@elderlybrunch4169 queen shit honestly she was sick of it

  • @Sly-Moose

    @Sly-Moose

    8 ай бұрын

    As a Virgo, we don't claim her 😂

  • @Sly-Moose

    @Sly-Moose

    8 ай бұрын

    Ah yes, let's just have Jacob pee on a baby, because that's TOTALLY NOT S'XUAL ASSAULT AS WELL 🤮🤮🤮

  • @a2-2b-9s
    @a2-2b-9s3 жыл бұрын

    "You're 18, sweety! Life goes on and *ALICE* IS RIGHT THERE!" Amanda, we need your Bella x Alice fanfiction, NOW!!!

  • @oli_kate

    @oli_kate

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right now please

  • @user-pi3hd2bt3f

    @user-pi3hd2bt3f

    3 жыл бұрын

    Isnt Alice married?

  • @MrNorker77

    @MrNorker77

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-pi3hd2bt3f Shhh, don't ruin this for us

  • @coralrose5754

    @coralrose5754

    3 жыл бұрын

    We need itttt

  • @Ashandonyx

    @Ashandonyx

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-pi3hd2bt3f polyamory

  • @briarwolf0501
    @briarwolf05013 жыл бұрын

    "If you ever kiss her against her will again..." I'm Team Alice, but if we must go the hetero route, then Edward is far superior to Jacob...for doing literally the bare fucking minimum.

  • @notamy5432

    @notamy5432

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right? How is he the only one in a scene that includes Bella’s father and town sherif to actually take Bella’s side on this?

  • @TheFourthWinchester

    @TheFourthWinchester

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@notamy5432 Have u gone to any college in the US? Most sexual assaults are pushed aside like this.

  • @queencleopatra007

    @queencleopatra007

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheFourthWinchester not usually by the victims own parents though, especially overprotective parents, like Charlie is towards Bella.

  • @repulsethemonkey1396

    @repulsethemonkey1396

    3 жыл бұрын

    Watching that scene always makes me go "Yeah! Get him, edward!"

  • @dawnmayflower4422

    @dawnmayflower4422

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@repulsethemonkey1396 Same, and I don’t even like Edward.

  • @hannahh2977
    @hannahh29773 жыл бұрын

    It also sucks that Charlie asks if Jacob wants to charge Bella for assault but not the other way around.

  • @multifandomperson8703

    @multifandomperson8703

    2 жыл бұрын

    He is a literal cop whose daughter got assaulted but "boys will be boys"

  • @noelbernabe8704

    @noelbernabe8704

    2 жыл бұрын

    At least Charlie had the self control not to haul Bella off to jail for daring to assault Charlie's precious Jacob. Yeah, Charlie is a jerk.

  • @omqvin

    @omqvin

    Жыл бұрын

    fr

  • @AnikMonette

    @AnikMonette

    Жыл бұрын

    Not surprised her side of the story isn't heard. Also sadly realistic.

  • @Lithiel
    @Lithiel3 жыл бұрын

    Clarification: There IS no Team Jacob, there is only " Team Before Jacob was written to suck~" Because the writer realized he was getting too popularXD

  • @incelrevolution69

    @incelrevolution69

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, he was really cool are first and then became super mean

  • @annadrozdz3040

    @annadrozdz3040

    3 жыл бұрын

    The words of wisdom

  • @taysyre6155

    @taysyre6155

    3 жыл бұрын

    same, I actually liked his character and was able to understand him sometimes. Jacob's life wasn't sweet and I got that. I just wish Stephanie wrote how dangerous his wolf anger was differently...I definitely think Stephanie wanted to do a Jacob pov early on but decided against it.

  • @taysyre6155

    @taysyre6155

    3 жыл бұрын

    made me hate his character he's disgusting

  • @PassionPno

    @PassionPno

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm on Team Hot Daddy Carlisle Cullen.

  • @christinaify
    @christinaify3 жыл бұрын

    One of the most baffling bits of the Twilight series is that basically every vampire, every single one, has a much more interesting potential story than Bella and Edward.

  • @onelovelylilidiot4959

    @onelovelylilidiot4959

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have a theory that because so little time was put into properly fleshing out the other characters’ stories that Stephanie didn’t have the chance to wreck them the same way she did with the main plot. Though ive never read Twilight so I may be entirely wrong on that

  • @excessivelyfangirlingbookw3339

    @excessivelyfangirlingbookw3339

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@onelovelylilidiot4959 I read them and... yeah, that’s about it. There are several characters introduced that get little to no development and some like Alice, Jasper or Rosalie have little more than a glimpse into their backstory. So there’s much implication without actual facts - the perfect base for hundreds of thousands of fanfics ^^

  • @catfan913

    @catfan913

    3 жыл бұрын

    probably because edward is too perfect to have any complexity

  • @cultureandhistorynerd6739

    @cultureandhistorynerd6739

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Booper Dooper ngl true-- his backstory basically involved him as a teenager that nearly died of the Spanish Flu and was turned into a vampire to save his life, some time after that he began killing those he deemed to be "monsters" and fed on their blood instead of any "innocents". He still felt like total crap after taking so many lives in order to sustain himself and tries to justify his actions, though he still ends up labelling himself as a "monster" too.

  • @Hollyberrystreats

    @Hollyberrystreats

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or how those backstories make it even more implausible that they'd just willingly be high school students forever. I get trying to stay incognito, but I think boredom would win over self-preservation eventually.

  • @somestrangecircus5505
    @somestrangecircus55053 жыл бұрын

    The Cullens: We had a birthday party for one person and it almost ended with that person getting killed! Also the Cullens: Let's have a graduation party for a very large crowd of teenagers, it'll probably be fine

  • @greeneyelove2003

    @greeneyelove2003

    3 жыл бұрын

    LOL. I know, right? Made no sense.

  • @_LunaTheBlackCat_

    @_LunaTheBlackCat_

    3 жыл бұрын

    Alice was probably like: but party is fun! :o

  • @UchihaKat

    @UchihaKat

    3 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, Bella is apparently like. Extra-tasty to all vampires, so her alone is worse... I guess?

  • @rue8638
    @rue86383 жыл бұрын

    “I’ll break your jaw if you ever touch her against her will again.” Edward said, calmly.

  • @maricampelo7754

    @maricampelo7754

    Жыл бұрын

    This gives "Harry, did you put your name in the Goblet of fire?". Dumbledore asked, calmly.

  • @TheMidnightwolf15
    @TheMidnightwolf153 жыл бұрын

    I honestly wished Leah was the main character instead of Bella after reading this. Her backstory is far more interesting than Bella's (then again, every other character in this story has a more interesting story than our main leads). She was dating Sam, who then disappeared on her, transforms into a wolf, imprints on her cousin, then Leah herself transforms into the only she-wolf which leads her to not only having to share a hivemind with her ex who's probably constantly sharing images of his time with her cousin but to also wonder if she's perhaps broken in some way because she fears that she'll be unable to have children because she's a wolf (with the blokes essentially calling her a genetic dead-end) and none of her pack is sympathetic to her in any way, she can't talk to anyone else about it outside the pack, and I can't recall if it actually happened in the book but I think it's heavily implied that the shock of her transforming in front of him after an argument caused her dad Harry to have a heart attack and die....like, yikes! And she gets so heavily sidelined like every other interesting character. I kinda wished she was able to overthrow Sam and become alpha of the pack instead of having to join Jacobs mini-pack that he forms in the next book, which she only joins because it gives her a chance to escape Sam and the hivemind they share!

  • @inkynewt
    @inkynewt3 жыл бұрын

    "Jasper can be gay too" gives me life, I've been wanting him to be since like the first book.

  • @michealfleury1226

    @michealfleury1226

    3 жыл бұрын

    There are fan fictions for that. (There are fan fictions for everything)

  • @inkynewt

    @inkynewt

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michealfleury1226 I spent enough time reading those books, putting videos about em on in the background is one thing but searching for good, non-female written mlm Twilight fanfiction would take an eternity. I'll stick to my ownvoices novels and well rec'd fanfiction I know isn't by a "fujoshi". (You're not wrong though)

  • @fizzycolapop362

    @fizzycolapop362

    3 жыл бұрын

    The only thing it’s that Alice/Jasper was one of two decent canon relationships

  • @zed4643

    @zed4643

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michealfleury1226 do you know where I can find a very well written gay twilight fanfic that wasn’t written by a 12 year old on wattpad? Asking for a friend.

  • @sophiesantosE

    @sophiesantosE

    3 жыл бұрын

    I kinda remember thinking that, too xD Like, he always felt a little gay to me, because he never seemed happy with his life. And the contacts-problem in the movies didn't help with him seeming less unhappy. So...

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq3 жыл бұрын

    Jacob: Claims to NEVER take anyone's free will away from them. Also Jacob: Sexually abuses a girl, and tricks her into kissing him, without her consent.

  • @lauriecondamin796

    @lauriecondamin796

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly ! I got so mad when Bella told her dad about it and he still thought that Jacob was a good guy 😑

  • @fabiomoreira5820

    @fabiomoreira5820

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lauriecondamin796 good girl Bella juggling 2 guys

  • @my_cousin_mose9782

    @my_cousin_mose9782

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not defending Jacob at all but labeling this as sexual abuse is kind of a slap in the face to actual victims of abuse.

  • @amandamiller7728

    @amandamiller7728

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lauriecondamin796 and he high fived him. Even though his daughter said she might have broken her hand from punching him....

  • @ailtonsilva3314

    @ailtonsilva3314

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@my_cousin_mose9782 not, is not.

  • @theotherghostgirl337
    @theotherghostgirl3373 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I don’t care if Edward and Bella are technically the same age mentally, if you don’t see your partner as your equal in the relationship, you probably shouldn’t be dating

  • @SonicMegaKing

    @SonicMegaKing

    3 жыл бұрын

    To be fair to Edward, he's from a time when partners weren't equals and such a concept was more at the whim of the husband than a required consideration.

  • @RobertMorgan

    @RobertMorgan

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's problematic. I want a partner who is not my equal, that has something to offer I can't do myself. For example, man and a woman date, they're not equal, because he can't get pregnant. It really does come down to being as simple as that. I guess a man dating a man would be equals lol. Don't worry, they're making advancements in the synthetic womb all the time. Before long men will be able to have children without women and we'll have real, true equality. Not so great for women though to lose their advantage.

  • @ghostnebula8805

    @ghostnebula8805

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RobertMorgan ?!

  • @TheEmmakathryn

    @TheEmmakathryn

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RobertMorgan equality doesn't mean.. able to do all the same things....

  • @KCDay-eu1iq

    @KCDay-eu1iq

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RobertMorgan she means that see each other as equals, meaning one is not considered better than the other. Bella puts Edward on a pedestal and thinks she is inferior, that is not how a good relationship works.

  • @alexblanchard8559
    @alexblanchard85593 жыл бұрын

    teenage me seeing Jacob kiss Bella without her consent for the first time: finds it romantic adult me watching a video that reminds me that scene existed: oh no...i supported this???

  • @johannesseyfried7933

    @johannesseyfried7933

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't blame yourself. We were all young and a bit stupid once.

  • @piaragaaa

    @piaragaaa

    3 жыл бұрын

    same. I also thought that edward breaking into bella's room to watch her sleep was romantic 😀 I cringe everytime I remember it

  • @drfifteenmd7561

    @drfifteenmd7561

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean, I don’t get how because she literally punched him in the face.

  • @alexblanchard8559

    @alexblanchard8559

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t either, I was team Jacob as a young child. I watched Eclipse for the first time when I was like 11 and I didn’t know what romance was. I’m much healthier now with relationships

  • @m.s9972

    @m.s9972

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alexblanchard8559 Growth!

  • @feferis
    @feferis3 жыл бұрын

    Let's just talk about alice more. Can we just do that?

  • @rx500android

    @rx500android

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @AmandaTheJedi

    @AmandaTheJedi

    3 жыл бұрын

    I will make my complete video tallying the Alice and Bella subtext some time this year I promise

  • @trinaq

    @trinaq

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, this franchise would be MUCH more interesting if they focused on the more badass women, such as Alice, Rosalie or Leah!

  • @maya-gv6ms

    @maya-gv6ms

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AmandaTheJedi Y E S! Team Alice all the way

  • @oli_kate

    @oli_kate

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AmandaTheJedi Yesssss! I'm so excited for this

  • @toxicsugarart2103
    @toxicsugarart21033 жыл бұрын

    Rip in pieces @ Jacob’s character development 🙏

  • @rx500android

    @rx500android

    3 жыл бұрын

    So true😭😭

  • @mikasadeh4063

    @mikasadeh4063

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rest in pieces in pieces 😔💔

  • @mikasadeh4063

    @mikasadeh4063

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wait

  • @mikasadeh4063

    @mikasadeh4063

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rest In Peace in pieces*

  • @AmandaTheJedi

    @AmandaTheJedi

    3 жыл бұрын

    It died in New Moon and was nuked in Eclipse

  • @MariaJoseRangelUwU
    @MariaJoseRangelUwU3 жыл бұрын

    Ok so apparently all that Team Edward or Team Jacob wasn’t about who you felt Bella should end up with but about who you thought was more handsome.

  • @koushikibhattacharya7305

    @koushikibhattacharya7305

    3 жыл бұрын

    Underrated comment 😅😅

  • @techiepartoriza43

    @techiepartoriza43

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes you're right.

  • @annadaiglead

    @annadaiglead

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well duh

  • @noelbernabe8704

    @noelbernabe8704

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe for the movies. For the book fans, it was probably hard to tell who was better looking (though based on Bellas descriptions Edward was basically the best looking guy in human history).

  • @aditigulati7841
    @aditigulati78413 жыл бұрын

    "It's what I expect from teenagers, because I, too, was a teenager." Legendary line.

  • @Pollo2711
    @Pollo27113 жыл бұрын

    I honestly felt the Emily bit was darker. Like the only reason she accepted Sam was because he disfigured her and then showered her with attention like "I am only man that would love you as you are now". Kinda like those abusive partners that disfigure their partner's faces so they can't leave them because "no one else would want you" situations. Great video, thanks for bringing up Leah, I always felt bad for her.

  • @Gelime_

    @Gelime_

    3 жыл бұрын

    But she also talks about imprinting as being what happens to both people. So it's like bizzare that it's not consistent.

  • @hayleybartek8643

    @hayleybartek8643

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think you’re reading too much into that. There’s no indication he attacked her intentionally or that she resented him over it, or that she was once loved by someone else but lost it after her disfigurement.

  • @Pollo2711

    @Pollo2711

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Gelime_ I get what you mean, but to what I remember when Jacob is talking about his friend who imprinted on a toddler it says the imprintee actually gets to choose whether it will become romantic and that the care and devotion from the shapeshifter will of course lead to that in jacob's pov. This disregards that with someone that young it would be grooming and that with adults it may be societal pressure or fear that leads to this (like that guy everyone tells you give a chance because he does so much for you even though you find him creepy). But I do agree that the world is just very inconsistent the way it was written and becomes very problematic. She may have loved Sam eventually but before he scarred her she was not willing to be with him because of what he did to her cousin Leah. This was just my interpretation, its totally fine to have a completely different opinion. Thank you for the different perspective.

  • @Pollo2711

    @Pollo2711

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hayleybartek8643 You may be right, I felt that way because of how I read it but its totally fine to see it differently. I do remember that they describe what happened to Emily as Sam being angry at her rejections and then totally wolfing out of control and scarring her, his subsequent devotion leading to her acceptance. I guess because they never said he hurt her anywhere besides her face that I took it as a more intentional act of disfigurement. We never get to know Emily's thoughts so we don't know if she resented him but I was just analogizing it to the real life situations where victims sometimes do stay with the one who scarred them because they feel like they can't be loved by another. Emily might not have had a lover but it is true that anyone who gets permanently disfigured would feel very insecure and especially for a young woman like Emily without a partner it may feel like she can never find one because she is no longer considered beautiful by society. Again, I have probably read to much into it, but its my opinion and I just wanted to share my thoughts and I accept that I could be totally wrong. Thanks for commenting, Its interesting to engage in the youtube comments.

  • @BajanNeko

    @BajanNeko

    3 жыл бұрын

    I didn't read/watch but didn't he flip out at her rejection and accidentally scar her? At least that's what I heard.

  • @greeneyelove2003
    @greeneyelove20033 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one who felt bad for Leah. Her boyfriend drops her for her cousin that he ends up disfiguring and he's an ass to Leah, because she can't just turn her feelings off like a light switch.

  • @Author.Noelle.Alexandria

    @Author.Noelle.Alexandria

    3 жыл бұрын

    The musical The Book of Mormon has a song called “Turn It Off” because, yeah, Mormons do believe that feelings can be turned off like that. Mormons love the hell out of the Musical since they do identity with a lot of it, which is sad. They aren’t appalled by it because it’s true stuff. In my area, the musical is so popular that, a few years ago, after the traveling Broadway show stopped here, the Mormon community in my area pushed so hard for it to come back that the traveling Broadway show spent what was to be a three-week break in traveling coming back here to do more shows. This isn’t even Utah.

  • @TheNicolevertone

    @TheNicolevertone

    3 жыл бұрын

    And Leah is treated like she's a terrible person for being upset, by her entire community. She has no support in her group, and she has no mental privacy due to the pack lino, nor does she have any defence from their thoughts or their disgust at her "female issues" because they are deemed inconvenient

  • @Author.Noelle.Alexandria

    @Author.Noelle.Alexandria

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNicolevertone They harass her for being heartbroken. When she tries to encourage Jacob about Bella, she's treated like shit. I bet the book she's doing from Leah's POV will try to handwave it.

  • @greeneyelove2003

    @greeneyelove2003

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNicolevertone Leah couldn't win, no matter what. She deserved better. Can you imagine having a mental connection with so many people? Never being able to have a private thought? That would be a nightmare for anyone.

  • @saddlerrye6725

    @saddlerrye6725

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention that she's literally the only wolf with health issues due to the wolf gene. For the boys, it's just being always young and hot, for Leah, it's literally BECOMING INFERTILE. She's scared out of her wits because there's some weird shit hapening with her body, and her pack is just like 'Ewwww, it's that uncomfortable girly stuff....'

  • @AmaliaP_15
    @AmaliaP_153 жыл бұрын

    We went to watch eclipse at the cinema and people were literally laughing. When Edward gave Bella that awful ring and they did a close up to it with like, the romantic music, someone yelled out “that’s hideous” and the whole room laughed

  • @kaisofine

    @kaisofine

    10 ай бұрын

    I do the same lol

  • @ghostguru9156
    @ghostguru9156 Жыл бұрын

    “Doesn’t he own a shirt?“ Iconic also Rosalie’s revenge was such an amazing scene 😩and the scene where Alice drops from the trees onto Jasper’s shoulders is just 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

  • @SammyWinchester
    @SammyWinchester3 жыл бұрын

    I had forgotten that the Eclipse movie made Edward look more controlling than the books, while also softening some of Jacob's harsher qualities except for the double sexual assault, which still got played off as being romantic. If there's one thing I'm glad they changed, it was Charlie's reaction to Jacob assaulting Bella the first time. Him looking dumbfounded, while bad, was still better than him brushing of his daughter being in physical pain to congratulate a teen boy for assaulting his daughter.

  • @athenajaxon2397

    @athenajaxon2397

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly Edward is worse in the books because he basically has Bella kidnapped

  • @TheFourthWinchester

    @TheFourthWinchester

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is why I like Edward. He is a very decent and noble character in the books. This is why I always shipped Ed-Bella. Bella is too precious for anyone else.

  • @elizabethashley42

    @elizabethashley42

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheFourthWinchester Ah yes, creeping into a teenage girl's bedroom to watch her sleep, disabling her truck, tons of other controlling and gaslighting actions throughout the novel, very noble.

  • @TheFourthWinchester

    @TheFourthWinchester

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@elizabethashley42 As if you're an immortal, ultra strong being who will ever understand what goes through his mind or how much he has seen through the decades.

  • @elizabethashley42

    @elizabethashley42

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheFourthWinchester This is such an out-of-left-field response that I burst out laughing, you do you bro. No kinkshaming (shipshaming?) from me.

  • @sassysnape3738
    @sassysnape37383 жыл бұрын

    I will never get over the fact that Leah had a more interesting plot than Bella but instead either gets trashed or stays in the background

  • @morganyoung3557

    @morganyoung3557

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, Leah, Alice, and Rosalie are just more interesting than Bella could ever dream of being.

  • @TheFourthWinchester

    @TheFourthWinchester

    3 жыл бұрын

    Let me tell you from the perspective of straight guys. Literally every guy who watched Twilight ADORED Bella. They wanted a Bella of their own. Mainly cuz Kristen Stewart is freaking hot. This was before the fangirls and toxic people made it lame for anyone else to love Twilight movies.

  • @hawkins347

    @hawkins347

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheFourthWinchester So what you're saying is... guys like chicks that are all looks and no personality. All right.

  • @TheFourthWinchester

    @TheFourthWinchester

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hawkins347 Should have given a toxic alert.

  • @Author.Noelle.Alexandria

    @Author.Noelle.Alexandria

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fret not! Meyer is working in two more Twilight retellings, from Renesme’s POV...and Leah’s. How badly will she butcher the tribe this time?

  • @alisha1087
    @alisha10873 жыл бұрын

    I remember being in the theater watching this movie. The audience exploded with excitement when Jacob said "I'm hotter than you are." It was hilarious

  • @arielruby13

    @arielruby13

    8 ай бұрын

    he did not lie tho, he was very hot. he was not at all respectful to bella and quite pushy, and for me that made me dislike the character and stop shipping them together. i still think he looks hot, but like trash personality kills the look.

  • @heatherduke5410
    @heatherduke54103 жыл бұрын

    Mainly, the reason people were Team Jacob was because he had abs. lmao. I really loved Rosalie. Her story of how she became a vampire was so tragic. Emmett was really kind of a himbo.

  • @Holytitmouse

    @Holytitmouse

    2 жыл бұрын

    And we love Emmett for it!

  • @heatherduke5410

    @heatherduke5410

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Holytitmouse We do. He seemed mostly harmless and a rather good guy. Especially compared to a lot of the other guys in the books and movies.

  • @multifandomperson8703

    @multifandomperson8703

    2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly Jasper and Emmett are great people. They don't suck, Emmett is very nice to Bella and accepts her right away while Jasper protects her in the first book extensively with Alice even though he struggles to be around humans. They are in loving relationships and treat their partners well. Maybe the two best male characters, along with Marcus from the Volturi?

  • @heatherduke5410

    @heatherduke5410

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@multifandomperson8703 Agreed! Jasper wasn't bad either. He had struggles of course, but I don't feel like excuses were made for him like they were for Jacob and Edward. And he loved Alice a lot. And Emmett was great to Bella. He seemed to be a very chill, accepting dude.

  • @multifandomperson8703

    @multifandomperson8703

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@heatherduke5410 Why are most side characters more interesting than the main characters pls😂

  • @caraalicelouise
    @caraalicelouise3 жыл бұрын

    War flashbacks of 12 year old me trying to explain to my movie-only friends how terrible Jacob was 😭

  • @stephanierosado1299

    @stephanierosado1299

    3 жыл бұрын

    Literally same lmaooo

  • @H.Z.C.

    @H.Z.C.

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same😂

  • @3minutes374
    @3minutes3743 жыл бұрын

    My favorite part of this movie is when Jasper develops a southern accent for 2 minutes.

  • @lordfreerealestate8302

    @lordfreerealestate8302

    3 жыл бұрын

    In the books, he was a former Confederate soldier.

  • @lothcatskilledthesith6903

    @lothcatskilledthesith6903

    3 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, my mom was from Georgia but lived up north for 50 odd years. She only had a southern accent when she drank or got really mad.

  • @taylord3918

    @taylord3918

    3 жыл бұрын

    “Battle scars”

  • @Author.Noelle.Alexandria

    @Author.Noelle.Alexandria

    3 жыл бұрын

    Funny thing is, in real life, the guy who plays him is the son of a southern billionaire. With a B.

  • @alexmooney7474

    @alexmooney7474

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lothcatskilledthesith6903 I love accidental accent appearances. My mom and I visited her aunt, and her aunt had a VERY strong southern accent. My mom has kind of a tiny lilt of one that's barely noticeable now. But as soon as she started talking with her aunt, my mom's accent just exploded and they sounded exactly alike. I asked about it afterwards, and my mom claims she didn't even notice the change in her own voice!

  • @amukhoza857
    @amukhoza8573 жыл бұрын

    Me remembering a book I read 12 years ago: “Jacob wasn’t that bad!!!!!!!” Amanda gives us a run down Me: “ 😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶” how was anyone team Edward or Jacob!!!!! Run Bella run 🏃‍♀️!!!

  • @MinisDunyasi5

    @MinisDunyasi5

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m Team Alice

  • @desaririaz1302

    @desaririaz1302

    11 ай бұрын

    @@MinisDunyasi5Alice is really a bad friend though Alice can be just a manipulative as Edward she doesn’t care about Bella’s wishes or wants or even her well being beyond when it benefits her or Edward I think a good descriptor of their relationship as a whole is Alice is not Bella’s best friend she’s Edwards best friend From the very beginning Alice is integral in orchestrating Edward and Bella’s relationship which in itself is a very selfish thing to do in my opinion it’s quite clear that was for their benefit certainly not Bella’s it was for Edward yes and Alice wanted something to play with and Alice treats Bella like an accessory purse dog and as Bella says herself her guinea pig Barbie and Bella hates it She’s constantly forcing her to do things she doesn’t want to do and wear things she doesn’t want to wear she doesn’t pay attention to the things Bella likes or doesn’t care for Her and Edward force Bella to go to prom and I do mean force and trick her because they didn’t tell her that’s what they were doing She dressed Bella up and makes a mannequin out of her and Bella expresses that she doesn’t want to do that and she doesn’t want to be her guinea pig Barbie and Alice tells her to be quiet she says I don’t remember my human life so I’m living through you so you’ll deal with it and then the outtake she’s like are gonna stay still or do I have to get jasper to hold you down When Bella realizes realizes there making her go to prom which she very adamantly didn’t want she’s so upset she starts crying and edwards like why are crying And this wasn’t like a one time thing this is just what Alice does and continues to do for the rest of the series like her birthday party that she she specifically said she did not want that and Alice was like oh you have to let us have some fun I would think that Bella’s “best friend” would be considerate of she wanted on her birthday but not on the Cullens watch and there’s multiple times where Alice where Alice makes Bella wear something she doesn’t want to wear or do something she doesn’t want to do Not least of all the wedding Bella didn’t even want to get married as Edward manipulated her into getting married and yes that is what he did at his old age something she specifically did not want and she certainly doesn’t want to have a big production wedding and Alice guilts her into it and says if you really love me you’ll let me do this Bella and so Alice does the whole thing despite the fact that it makes Bella uncomfortable and she has nothing to do with her own wedding It’s emphasized to the point to where when Jacob receives that condescending wedding invite that Bella specifically noted she didn’t want sent but Edward sent it anyways Jacob knows right away that Bella had nothing to do with it because it’s so not her style and that she probably doesn’t even like it Of course Alice is also notorious for not just enabling but quite literally aiding and helping Edward is his manipulative controlling schemes Like when when Edward forbids Bella from seeing Jacob and her friends at la push and disables her car so she can’t go there he also goes so far as to have Alice help him to baby sit Bella and kidnap her as Alice happily goes along with it because Edward bribed her with a Porsche And not least of all but if Alice is supposed to be Bella’s “best friend” she is just as guilty as abandoning Bella without a trace in new moon as leaving her completely unprotected but that’s the thing she’s not Bella’s best friend but the really troublesome part is she claims rights to that title after doing absolutely nothing to earn it or demonstrate that she cares about Bella Like in new moon when she had the audacity to come back to forks quite literally acts like she owns the place and starts hurtling stuff at Jacob without ever speaking a word to him is not only vile in that regard but is completely dismissive of Bella and her feelings and her friend and has the nerve to be like Bella werewolves are not company to keep I can’t see past you and your pack of mutts when Jacob literally had just fished Bella out of the ocean and had been protecting and caring about her that whole time all the whole her and her awesome family including her confederate husband who tried to eat Bella at the birthday party she didn’t even want to have and her very safe brother who rectified the situation by throwing Bella into a table of glass taking her outside lying to her face destroying her self esteem ad abandoning her where nowhere to be found And I’d Bella hadn’t been keeping company with werewolves she would have been long since dead because of the problems that you created and Alice chose to take this opportunity to to be like ugh dogs you smell bad Does that sound like a real friend???

  • @Sly-Moose

    @Sly-Moose

    8 ай бұрын

    Honestly? She should have just dated a human who was her age 😂

  • @space_pollution
    @space_pollution3 жыл бұрын

    “Why did they give Emmett this haircut?” I’m crYing it looks so ridiculous

  • @notaccessible3741
    @notaccessible37413 жыл бұрын

    I’m rewriting Twilight. They ruined Charlie, that’s the final straw. - Y’all are getting therapy, so much therapy - Jacob you asshole - Team Alice let’s go - Edward you asshole - Bella shall no longer be like a plain half cooked pasta - That imprinting thing, that’s gotta go - I wish you all a very happy therapy Yahoo let’s do this

  • @naluzoniro

    @naluzoniro

    3 жыл бұрын

    alternatively, you could get rid of Bella altogether, make Edward and Jacob better characters and better people, and give them a tragic Romeo-and-Juliet-style forbidden gay love story x) And yeah, therapy, SO MUCH THERAPY

  • @skylarjohnson7779

    @skylarjohnson7779

    3 жыл бұрын

    or keep the imprinting but explore it's horror movie potential.

  • @opiateutopia

    @opiateutopia

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great idea. I'll go write the tragic horror version inspired by Dominic Noble's review where love isn't actually love and Bella gets eaten at the end

  • @notaccessible3741

    @notaccessible3741

    3 жыл бұрын

    If there’s no Bella there’s no Charlie and I simply refuse to let that happen

  • @StoryGirl83

    @StoryGirl83

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or imprinting on someone under age means that you have to stay out of their life until they out of their life and if you don’t, you will be executed as a predator. And even once they are an adult, it is 100% their choice. Or you know you just straight up cannot imprint until both parties are adults.

  • @GhostIsMe
    @GhostIsMe3 жыл бұрын

    Jacob went from "let's be friends!" to "WhY wOnT yOu KiSs Me!"

  • @Xehanort10

    @Xehanort10

    3 жыл бұрын

    He went to Severus Snape and Kylo Ren levels of obsession really quick.

  • @empi2597

    @empi2597

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@buuny2233 that is so accurate, first they are "nice", and when its clear they are not gettring any hilarious insults and flipping out follow. its really funny.

  • @saltyteenager5865
    @saltyteenager58653 жыл бұрын

    Honestly the only person I feel even a grain of sympathy for in this entire book series is probably Charlie. He has to go through so much throughout the series and in the end just ends up being kept in the dark by his own daughter. All of the other characters in the series are either too manipulative or stupid to root for. Except for Alice. Alice is freaking great.

  • @noelbernabe8704

    @noelbernabe8704

    2 жыл бұрын

    I jumped off the Charlie bandwagon in Eclipse. If that poor excuse for a father/law enforcement officer will side with the guy who sexually assaulted his daughter, he deserves to be kept in the dark.

  • @mewow3556

    @mewow3556

    2 жыл бұрын

    i love your pfp

  • @AnikMonette

    @AnikMonette

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't disagree but how do you break out to your dad that not only his daughter is dating a vampire, but the world is also full of them? Oh by the way werewolves are a thing, too! All good? Nice! Don't worry about me daddy all is fine!😂

  • @desaririaz1302

    @desaririaz1302

    11 ай бұрын

    Ngl Alice is kinda a terrible friend Alice can be just a manipulative as Edward she doesn’t care about Bella’s wishes or wants or even her well being beyond when it benefits her or Edward I think a good descriptor of their relationship as a whole is Alice is not Bella’s best friend she’s Edwards best friend From the very beginning Alice is integral in orchestrating Edward and Bella’s relationship which in itself is a very selfish thing to do in my opinion it’s quite clear that was for their benefit certainly not Bella’s it was for Edward yes and Alice wanted something to play with and Alice treats Bella like an accessory purse dog and as Bella says herself her guinea pig Barbie and Bella hates it She’s constantly forcing her to do things she doesn’t want to do and wear things she doesn’t want to wear she doesn’t pay attention to the things Bella likes or doesn’t care for Her and Edward force Bella to go to prom and I do mean force and trick her because they didn’t tell her that’s what they were doing She dressed Bella up and makes a mannequin out of her and Bella expresses that she doesn’t want to do that and she doesn’t want to be her guinea pig Barbie and Alice tells her to be quiet she says I don’t remember my human life so I’m living through you so you’ll deal with it and then the outtake she’s like are gonna stay still or do I have to get jasper to hold you down When Bella realizes realizes there making her go to prom which she very adamantly didn’t want she’s so upset she starts crying and edwards like why are crying And this wasn’t like a one time thing this is just what Alice does and continues to do for the rest of the series like her birthday party that she she specifically said she did not want that and Alice was like oh you have to let us have some fun I would think that Bella’s “best friend” would be considerate of she wanted on her birthday but not on the Cullens watch and there’s multiple times where Alice where Alice makes Bella wear something she doesn’t want to wear or do something she doesn’t want to do Not least of all the wedding Bella didn’t even want to get married as Edward manipulated her into getting married and yes that is what he did at his old age something she specifically did not want and she certainly doesn’t want to have a big production wedding and Alice guilts her into it and says if you really love me you’ll let me do this Bella and so Alice does the whole thing despite the fact that it makes Bella uncomfortable and she has nothing to do with her own wedding It’s emphasized to the point to where when Jacob receives that condescending wedding invite that Bella specifically noted she didn’t want sent but Edward sent it anyways Jacob knows right away that Bella had nothing to do with it because it’s so not her style and that she probably doesn’t even like it Of course Alice is also notorious for not just enabling but quite literally aiding and helping Edward is his manipulative controlling schemes Like when when Edward forbids Bella from seeing Jacob and her friends at la push and disables her car so she can’t go there he also goes so far as to have Alice help him to baby sit Bella and kidnap her as Alice happily goes along with it because Edward bribed her with a Porsche And not least of all but if Alice is supposed to be Bella’s “best friend” she is just as guilty as abandoning Bella without a trace in new moon as leaving her completely unprotected but that’s the thing she’s not Bella’s best friend but the really troublesome part is she claims rights to that title after doing absolutely nothing to earn it or demonstrate that she cares about Bella Like in new moon when she had the audacity to come back to forks quite literally acts like she owns the place and starts hurtling stuff at Jacob without ever speaking a word to him is not only vile in that regard but is completely dismissive of Bella and her feelings and her friend and has the nerve to be like Bella werewolves are not company to keep I can’t see past you and your pack of mutts when Jacob literally had just fished Bella out of the ocean and had been protecting and caring about her that whole time all the whole her and her awesome family including her confederate husband who tried to eat Bella at the birthday party she didn’t even want to have and her very safe brother who rectified the situation by throwing Bella into a table of glass taking her outside lying to her face destroying her self esteem ad abandoning her where nowhere to be found And I’d Bella hadn’t been keeping company with werewolves she would have been long since dead because of the problems that you created and Alice chose to take this opportunity to to be like ugh dogs you smell bad Does that sound like a real friend???

  • @DeepikaGinger

    @DeepikaGinger

    10 ай бұрын

    @@desaririaz1302I agree with all of this. Alice’s behaviour and attitude has always bothered me. It’s like they have to be friends because they’re both girls and love Edward, but, you’re right, Alice is Edward’s best friend.

  • @riakun
    @riakun2 жыл бұрын

    Amanda's casual simping over Alice and talking about her otp Alice/Bella is honestly hilarious and adorable. Never considered it before I watched her twilight videos, but now I'm also AliceXBella all the way

  • @alliecat84
    @alliecat843 жыл бұрын

    What I really hated about this book, is that Stephanie introduced such a rich background of characters, lore (vampire and wolves) and history, but still decided she should definitely follow the girl stuck between a whinny nice guy and a control freak. Like, I wanna know what Alice did for 28 years while she waited for Jasper, I wanna know about Jasper’s recollections of the war, I wanna see the “creature in Siberia” that James hunted down! Like, you could make a really decent series based in the twilightverse and I feel like it’s a lot of wasted potential to only limit the story to the Bella/Edward romance. Alright rant over xD

  • @mariannmarmal6665

    @mariannmarmal6665

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also Carlisle’s whole story about how his father was this priest of something and they used to hunt down vampire and that’s how he was turned also his time with the voluturi is also something that interest me

  • @saddlerrye6725

    @saddlerrye6725

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, Eclipse is actually my favourite of the series because of all the interesting bacground stuff. I just chose to ignore the love triangle in the middle XD Also, thankfully, we have the magnificent thing that is fanfiction. If there is potential in a story or a world, there will be people who write about it.

  • @Hi-dx5jt

    @Hi-dx5jt

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@saddlerrye6725 same I really like that it has action and introduces new characters and actually pays attention to their backgrounds while still developing older characters and their backgrounds

  • @user-rr3yw9dn1l

    @user-rr3yw9dn1l

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. She has so many more books here.

  • @Bee-oe1vi

    @Bee-oe1vi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mariannmarmal6665 just realized he was once part of the Volturi yet never killed anyone.. ?

  • @haku8135
    @haku81353 жыл бұрын

    He can shapeshift into a GIANT FUR COVERED WOLF! It's LITERALLY just spite he's cuddling with her in front of Edward as a shirtless human.

  • @isadora6092

    @isadora6092

    3 жыл бұрын

    to be fair, they were inside a smol tent so having a giant fur wolf wouldnt work out...

  • @haku8135

    @haku8135

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@isadora6092 giant furry wolf is superior to a human.

  • @mali___4673
    @mali___46733 жыл бұрын

    Every time you say “Stephenie why?” my soul moves. I mean seriously Stephanie .. why??

  • @danielaa.330
    @danielaa.3303 жыл бұрын

    I feel very sorry for Leah. Almost everyone got some sort of happy ending but her. Not being able to become pregnant, the Sam story..

  • @tiffprendergast

    @tiffprendergast

    3 жыл бұрын

    She should have adopted a kid then

  • @Sabrina-sc1db
    @Sabrina-sc1db3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly Couldn't Meyer just... make up a name for a new tribe? And said she took inspiration from a real tribe, give credit when admiting to altering it, and donate a bit of profit to the actual tribe Is... is that hard?

  • @Author.Noelle.Alexandria

    @Author.Noelle.Alexandria

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is when your religion tells you that whiteness is a gift from god and that other skin colors are dirty because of sin. Sadly, I’m not making that up. Her church didn’t even allow black people until about 40 years ago.

  • @victoriatortilla

    @victoriatortilla

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or how hard would it be to make a community of wolf shapeshifters that AREN’T connected to the irl Quileute tribe. Doesn’t even have to be Native American; just group of people who shift into wolves to protect that area of Washington state.

  • @agarotaestatueta2811

    @agarotaestatueta2811

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Author.Noelle.Alexandria Oh my God! This is horrible... I hate this so much.

  • @voluntaryismistheanswer

    @voluntaryismistheanswer

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's a pretty weird dynamic in the PNW with interlopers and the locals, I can remember a rather progressive associate from the area recommending 'The Egg and I' (the Ma and Pa Kettle movies were based on that book), and when Betty McDonald called the Suquamish 'mud people', I had to pause and reflect, I was that shocked and upset- and it didn't phase my liberal book club chums a bit. I can see them using and abusing tribal mythos without a qualm for their 'art'.

  • @voluntaryismistheanswer

    @voluntaryismistheanswer

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Author.Noelle.Alexandria yeah and remember, in THEIR mythos the indigenous people here are lost tribes, etc, too, just minor characters in their script, not people that are part of the land with their own stories and history. It's rather wicked.

  • @breezy3392
    @breezy33923 жыл бұрын

    One thing (out of many) that really gets me in this is that after Rosalie pours her heart out about why she thinks Bella shouldn't choose to be a vampire, Bella doesn't take one single second to think through anything Rosalie has said. I'm not even saying that she should change her mind, but just...think about it a little. The only thing Bella takes from that conversation is that Tanya was into Edward. That is the only detail that has any impact on her

  • @Author.Noelle.Alexandria

    @Author.Noelle.Alexandria

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because it means another woman is “competition,” and Bella only cares about one thing: Bella.

  • @eveelima1

    @eveelima1

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean, I get Bella. I would understand Rosalie's point of view but would never be able to relate to it because I never ever ever want children and really all I want is to be with the love of my life forever, that's pretty much how Bella feels at that point. Having a family of her own and living a human life to its fullest was Rosalie's dream from the beginning, so obviously it's important to her. But Bella never cared for that (okay she changed her mind when she found herself pregnant, but back then it meant little to her). I would've just brushed it off too.

  • @Author.Noelle.Alexandria

    @Author.Noelle.Alexandria

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@eveelima1 Something Bella could have taken from that, and should have, is that a life in hiding, having to move all the time, prevents them from getting to have many of the experiences of life that come with getting older. Even though they are technically aging just because that’s how time works, they’ll never be able to fit in with the middle-aged or older experiences that even people without kids have.

  • @Xehanort10

    @Xehanort10

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bella: Women other than me fancied Edward? ARGHHHHHH I'm gonna kill them. HE'S MINE. That's how obsessed with him she is. She's shallow and doesn't care about being turned as long as she doesn't get old. Rosalie: I was turned against my will after already going through being raped and only because the vampire who turned me only wanted me to marry his adopted son. Bella: I just wanna be pretty forever.

  • @rituparnadebnath5850

    @rituparnadebnath5850

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Xehanort10 Did you even read the books?

  • @emeryrachelle224
    @emeryrachelle2243 жыл бұрын

    pretty sure they ramped up Edward's iffiness and played down Jacob's crappiness so they could push a more "even" Jacob vs. Edward fan rivalry and movie marketing to sell more tickets and merch

  • @simplykaity_7053
    @simplykaity_70533 жыл бұрын

    What makes me upset, it’s that Stephanie literally made two shifters imprint on babies, but she couldn’t make an lgbtq character?

  • @sofiashipilova3336

    @sofiashipilova3336

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean...she's a Mormon so...yeah :')

  • @strawberry_silk3364

    @strawberry_silk3364

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm a straight writer, I FUCKING AGREE

  • @Killroy007

    @Killroy007

    9 ай бұрын

    What makes me upset is thinking about the poor girl that was her inspiration for alice

  • @jasmin6380
    @jasmin63803 жыл бұрын

    I would unironically love it if they made an entire movie about Jaspers or Rosalies life before they met the Cullens their storys are insane

  • @oli_kate

    @oli_kate

    3 жыл бұрын

    But they would have to acknowledge the whole confederate thing which should definitely not be written by white people. But yes I would be very interested! Esme too. And Carlisle! Years of studying medicine at night and getting his thirst so under control. His fascination with new information and his morals and compassion and wish for family. So interesting! Alice's life too. I wish we could learn more about her before she became a vampire and then everything after.

  • @jasmin6380

    @jasmin6380

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@oli_kate ah yeah I agree with that. It would make for a really interesting mini series or something for Netflix

  • @mvn2106

    @mvn2106

    3 жыл бұрын

    All of the side characters in Twilight are fantastic and I wish the Cullens were the main characters instead of just Edward and Bella. Like you said, Jasper and Rosalie's backstories are insane and their relationships with Alice and Emmett respectively are a lot more endearing than the main romances 😝

  • @emilyb.8219

    @emilyb.8219

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@oli_kate I read a fanfic about Alice's life pre-Cullens. It was pretty interesting.

  • @morganyoung3557

    @morganyoung3557

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly what makes Twilight interesting to me are the side characters.

  • @leah_organa
    @leah_organa3 жыл бұрын

    Oh my god, I was always Team Jasper as a teen because Edward obviously wasn‘t depressed and brooding enough for me and I think I already got that Jacob was an abusive peace of shit, but back then, as a 14 year old girl from Europe, I did not know what it meant that Jasper was part of the mothereffing confederate army?!?! Why did Stephenie do that?

  • @briankaslewicz6130

    @briankaslewicz6130

    3 жыл бұрын

    Could've been an easy fix to be the Union army but no

  • @ErklaerMirDieWelt

    @ErklaerMirDieWelt

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tbf, it's not as if you chose your team in the civil war. It was pretty much tied to where you lived. So while you can criticize the Confederates as a whole, the individual soldiers either didn't have a choice or didn't know better.

  • @Melissa-sx9vh

    @Melissa-sx9vh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@briankaslewicz6130 Jasper could have fought in any other war, WWI, WWII, Cold War, a naval war (vampire pirates!)... Hell even for another country, to throw in some diversity!

  • @emmaatkinson7379

    @emmaatkinson7379

    3 жыл бұрын

    Huh. Wonder why a white, conservative middle aged Mormon lady who scattered pro-life and abuse-as-love rhetoric through her novel that had no developed BIPOC characters (and disrespected the hell out of the native tribes she used purely for aesthetic).. may not have minded a Confederate soldier background. What could possibly have been the reason.

  • @naluzoniro

    @naluzoniro

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@emmaatkinson7379 hmmmmmmmmmmm interesting theory

  • @RedCaio
    @RedCaio3 жыл бұрын

    I was team Jacob - he was overall more warm and friendly etc. but I did _not_ remember the assault scene, wow. Yikes. Now I'm team not-Twilight lol

  • @MinisDunyasi5

    @MinisDunyasi5

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m Team Alice

  • @donnamitsuki281
    @donnamitsuki2813 жыл бұрын

    "How was ANYONE Team Jacob!?" I never got truly into the story but when classmates said "the vampire of the werewolf?" of course I'll choose the damn werewolf,they're cooler.

  • @noelbernabe8704

    @noelbernabe8704

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think Twilight shifters are pretty cool. But I don't agree about classic werewolves. They only can transform during the full moon and can't really control themselves. It's like having a wild animal every couple weeks... that's no fun. But a Twilight shifter is pretty cool. Full control and they can transform anytime.

  • @OctaBech
    @OctaBech3 жыл бұрын

    - Yes, how could any sane person ever be on team Ja... *Rips off shirt and reveal sweaty pumping abs* - Look at me, now look at your sparkling Edward, now back to me. I'm on a motorcycle... Anyway, I am team maniacally unstable redhead vampire

  • @kraziiXIII

    @kraziiXIII

    3 жыл бұрын

    You have presented compelling evidence for Team Victoria. We will reconvene after I have finished writing my "Victoria tries to murder Bella but falls in love instead" fic. Who she falls in love with is debatable; many options have presented themselves ( Charlie for the "I'm dating your dad so I can kill you but whoops I fell in love and am now your ex-murderous step-mom" angle, Bella for the genuinely star-crossed lovers trope, Alice for being the redeemer of all bad people, and also Leah, because she deserves love and attention! Also vampire/werewolf gfs!)

  • @_LunaTheBlackCat_

    @_LunaTheBlackCat_

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kraziiXIII drop a link when you are done please, that sounds better than the whole of eclipse 😄

  • @kraziiXIII

    @kraziiXIII

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@_LunaTheBlackCat_ smarter more talented people should write it. I've been "working" on a fic for six years and haven't even written the firat chapter. Anyone wants to run with the idea, go ahead! Also listen to "Immortals" by Reinary (sp) it's an orginal song about immortal gfs. That artist also has a vampire gf song too!

  • @ApequH

    @ApequH

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm strongly on team Nope!

  • @anniecenter

    @anniecenter

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kraziiXIII yes please drop a link. There isn’t a whole lot of Bella /Victoria stuff out there. Luminescence is pretty fire though

  • @deelo7179
    @deelo71793 жыл бұрын

    “Thats what we like to call in the real world, gROoMiNG!” 🤣

  • @kaimobley5324

    @kaimobley5324

    3 жыл бұрын

    Was it established that Jacob in the books was actually having thoughts and or doing acts in those ways to win the baby over time? I only watched the movies so when imprinting came up I took it as "Yes they are emotionally bound to this one person but it doesn't necessarily mean legit love/infatuation. It can be love or just the overwhelming need to protect"

  • @Melissa-sx9vh

    @Melissa-sx9vh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kaimobley5324 In the books every imprinter/imprintee relationship between adluts is romantic and Jacob even asks Quil who imprinted on Claire (a 2yo) why he doesn't look for a gf while Claire is a child (meaning only until she is of age to pursue romantically) and he is confused by the question because to him there is only Claire and he will never be interested in another woman... I hope it will give you some insight on why it's weird even if Jacob does not (yet) have romantic feelings for Resume

  • @kaimobley5324

    @kaimobley5324

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Melissa-sx9vh Oh I completely understand why it's weird bcus even I was questioning why Jacob imprinted on the baby. But as long as he wasn't actually doing/thinking things to the imprintee that's good. In my opinion from the way you explained it and how I understand the word it's only grooming when your actively doing thing's to persuade the person into a more favorable position of your liking. Jacob from what you said never actually did or thought anything like that at all. It's just a weird set of events that happened without any type of control over. Like Yashahime when Sesshomaru ends up married to Rin. People said that he groomed her but in the manga and the show he never did or thought anything like that to Rin. He barely even acknowledged her existence. And even when the events at hand ended he's the one who told Rin to live with humans to understand herself. But if by chance when your older and you still feel the same way I'll think about it. But until then he completely stayed away and did nothing

  • @shayla106

    @shayla106

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kaimobley5324 It’s grooming with extra steps, there’s no way to hand wave it away. Especially since Alice had a vision that Jacob and Renesmee will end up together. And the fact that Sam had to break up with Lee because he could only love Emily.

  • @kaimobley5324

    @kaimobley5324

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shayla106 Sam getting with Emily has nothing to do with grooming. They're basically the same age. And yes Alice had the vision that they would be together but it doesn't mean all case's of imprinting are going to be a relationship with said person regardless of age range. And you can't really say extra steps when said person doesn't do anything to insure that in their favor in some way to begin with. Idk if Jacob in the books said anything to Belle when she woke up a New Born and she found out about it but I can say taking it with a grain of salt that in the movie Jacob himself said to Belle "It's not even like that. You think Edward would let me live if it was" and Edward saying "To be honest I'm still thinking about it" is a pretty clear sign on how Jacob feels despite imprinting and the fact Edward knew Jacob wouldn't do something like that even in the situation he's in but understandably still uncomfortable with it. In all honesty you can connect imprinting with real life people who meet kids and fall in love with them (not in a romantic way mind you) as a person. Like say when dating for instance. A man meeting a women or vice versa and they meet the kid and that man or woman has a connection with the kid and would be protective. You hear it all the time when women who date a man or is just around a man say their kid and this person have a great connection. Their kid has a Father/Older Brother figure to look up to. And vice versa. Its no different other then in the cases we know it can possibly turn into a relationship

  • @Megancamille
    @Megancamille3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Amanda I just wanted to let you know that the Twilight fandom just recently held an auction and raised 35k that is being donated directly to the Quiluete Tribes move to higher ground.

  • @AlyssaB1287
    @AlyssaB12873 жыл бұрын

    “...I guess he’s the stupid Cullen.” Had me literally dying with laughter!!! 🤣🤣🤣💀

  • @shortedhalo
    @shortedhalo3 жыл бұрын

    “Imprinting on children...in the real world that’s what we call GROOMING!” Absolutely! This needs to be said!

  • @thomasraines1396
    @thomasraines13963 жыл бұрын

    Alice always felt to me like the Twilight equivalent of Luna Lovegood: both are quirky and oddly adorable but they’re not afraid to defend themselves when challenged in some fashion but are overall nice.

  • @lycianempire

    @lycianempire

    3 жыл бұрын

    And my favorite character over the 'main' characters.

  • @morganyoung3557

    @morganyoung3557

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly hanging out with both Alice and Luna would probably make for a very awesome day.

  • @thomasraines1396

    @thomasraines1396

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@morganyoung3557 it would.

  • @TheFourthWinchester

    @TheFourthWinchester

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hanging out with Alice would be like hanging around love. Hanging out with Luna would be way more thrilling though. You never know what kind of shyt she will drag you into.

  • @Monie71793

    @Monie71793

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly 😩🥰

  • @sherilea01
    @sherilea013 жыл бұрын

    I've always been team Jacob or at least team his family. I was all for having a protagonist actually be a native American for once and then she completely killed his character all to have Edward win the girl. This was such sloppy writing

  • @dr37295
    @dr372953 жыл бұрын

    “Jasper can just be gay too” just perfect Amanda

  • @peachy9976
    @peachy99763 жыл бұрын

    dude ive been saying this for SO LONG! Eclipse is awful, Jacob is just an incel and they tried to act like sexual assault was hot or something

  • @quentindevlay3359

    @quentindevlay3359

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not even the worst thing they tried to pass off as hot, either. And please understand the distress just writing this causes me. 😕

  • @veronikapop8161

    @veronikapop8161

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm actually one of those people who never realised until I saw this video 👀 I was so annoyed by Edward since 2nd book, because he always acts like he knows better for Bella and acts more like her father than a partner, but now I see that Jacob is actually way worse 😂 i like Rosalie the most, she seems most "real" to me 🤔

  • @peachy9976

    @peachy9976

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@veronikapop8161 edward high key annoys me in the book for that too. I like the movies and the books but the movies are more fun and edwards less toxic imo

  • @fundamentalstruggles9977

    @fundamentalstruggles9977

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was legitimately terrifying. I remember how like at one time Bella was afraid to be around Jacob because she feared he'd touch her.

  • @mariareis4327
    @mariareis43273 жыл бұрын

    "You're 18 sweetie, life goes on... And Alice is right there" 😂😂😂

  • @hemlock1881
    @hemlock18813 жыл бұрын

    8:43 “Because, I too was a teenager...” Oh dear god! 😱You were a teenager??? The horror!💃☠️

  • @QueenBoudicca125
    @QueenBoudicca1252 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for mentioning the Wuthering Heights effect on teen romance. I HATED that book. It's misrepresented as romance so often, that I worry for people and what they think a healthy relationship looks like.

  • @silverwolf28
    @silverwolf283 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, yeah. Jasper and Alice are one of the few relationships I remember being cute in the books lol. So while Alice and Bella is entirely the best ship that can possibly come out of this mess, I don't really want to break Jasper and Alice apart either

  • @kayhaven4710

    @kayhaven4710

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same honestly! I also did enjoy Emmett and Rosalie’s relationship as well!

  • @evanrigel954

    @evanrigel954

    3 жыл бұрын

    Clearly, the only solution here is polyamory

  • @bobbivotson2529

    @bobbivotson2529

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tis a thrupple@

  • @thomasraines1396

    @thomasraines1396

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@evanrigel954 there’s actually few fan fics about that.

  • @fangirldreamer748

    @fangirldreamer748

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thomasraines1396 what fanfic site, are they on just curious?

  • @JKerr97
    @JKerr973 жыл бұрын

    I really hope that we will have a "fantasy-vampire-Era" in the 20's with an non toxic relationships and much diversity.

  • @glimmerhutcherson139

    @glimmerhutcherson139

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm a sucker for non-white vampires so YES PLEASE

  • @crybabycasper

    @crybabycasper

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm actually planning on writing a vampire book with a lot of POC characters and two of my characters are gay and inlove and another is asexual. I love them all so much 😭

  • @bioticjedi3864

    @bioticjedi3864

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or proper fantasy/supernatural stuff where everyone isnt an oversexed Mary sue obsessed with love and not focusing on the supernatural elements

  • @morganyoung3557

    @morganyoung3557

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@crybabycasper I would actually read that, it sounds very interesting.

  • @skylar7720

    @skylar7720

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just need more vampire content. I am starving

  • @AnnaAmber6
    @AnnaAmber63 жыл бұрын

    I always thought that it was incredibly selfish of Jacob to keep pursuing Bella once imprinting was introduced. He admits that he hasn't imprinted on her, which meant that his soulmate was still out there somewhere. He has no idea that it will be Bella's future child. So who's to say that even if she did choose him over Edward, that Jacob wouldn't then imprint on another person somewhere down the line. He's seen the hurt that that exact situation caused Leah, why would he want to inflict that on Bella?

  • @desaririaz1302

    @desaririaz1302

    11 ай бұрын

    I personally don’t agree with this take because I really don’t think it’s fair to call Jacob selfish for pursuing the relationship because they thought imprinting was a rare it doesn’t happen to all werewolves just some so why should Jacob have to put his feelings on hold and never ever pursue anyone or any relationship just for the possibility that he MIGHT imprint in the future like it’s not a sure thing so to never pursue or have a relationship for something that might not even happen is just kinda messed up to say that’s selfish of him but also if demon spawn was never born then Jacob never would have imprinted

  • @Sly-Moose

    @Sly-Moose

    8 ай бұрын

    Dude just wanted to smash and dash 🙄

  • @divinelangene6813

    @divinelangene6813

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@Sly-Moose😂😂😂😂

  • @rebekahwhitney2726
    @rebekahwhitney27263 жыл бұрын

    I’ve always been team jasper because his arc most closely follows that of the hero’s journey through hades. Being misaligned/in the confederate army; then becoming a vampire; the karmic hell of feeling the emotions of those he turned/fed from; the redemption moment of protecting Peter/Charlotte (not sure I remember their names right); killing Maria and living in Limbo; the message of hope from the maiden figure (Alice); the acceptance and healing from a righteous man (Carlisle); and the final battle which he wins not with the violence that led him to becoming a vampire, but the friends he has gathered over the years by becoming a redeemed man. I also hold him as the root of all my good hearted villain crushing. Wouldn’t it be amazing if I could be the Alice to Loki’s Jasper, etc. but their relationship actually works because he began to take responsibility for himself and choose good deeds and a righteous heart on his own 💜💜💜💜 This is the end of my essay on why Jacob sucks, Edward needs to act like he’s a hundred and not 17 and Alice is the Goddess figure in jaspers heart the end.

  • @santaclara6112

    @santaclara6112

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love this! A lot of people recoil at the fact that Jasper was a Confederate soldier, but I think it could make for a beautiful story about redemption. You pretty much outlined what I was thinking!

  • @kraziiXIII
    @kraziiXIII3 жыл бұрын

    I fucking choked on my food when Amanda said " Apparently, Jasper is the stupid Cullen". I am so lucky that I don't have spicy noodles up my nose right now! Cause that is what was gonna happen if I didn't keep that laugh in control!

  • @tom-tom2905
    @tom-tom29053 жыл бұрын

    To quote Adum from YMS: “This guy’s a dumb dog”

  • @carter_lovejoy

    @carter_lovejoy

    3 жыл бұрын

    To also quote Adum from YMS: “WOW DUDE PRIDE ROCK!”

  • @briankaslewicz6130

    @briankaslewicz6130

    3 жыл бұрын

    The call outs against Jacob in those YMS commentaries are valid, but Adam's probably the biggest hypocrite to constantly chew out Meyer for having bizarre fantasies while he showcases on his alt Twitter rule 34 of his horsesona getting buttfucked by Scoot's fursona or Garrus Vakarian. (This is coming from a guy who's been a YMS fan since 2012, btw)

  • @blueripper1558

    @blueripper1558

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@briankaslewicz6130 it's less hypocritical when one is about him getting it in the butt by his friends when the other has abuse and pedophilia

  • @briankaslewicz6130

    @briankaslewicz6130

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@blueripper1558 hmmmm you definitely have a point there

  • @Xehanort10

    @Xehanort10

    3 жыл бұрын

    And Bella treats him as such.

  • @amandalopes3048
    @amandalopes30483 жыл бұрын

    It always baffle me how Stephanie thought about the whole concept of imprinting, stopped, and said "yeah, this is a good solution"

  • @Ashstar4
    @Ashstar43 жыл бұрын

    I have a very big issue with Jacob because he has an imprint out there so technically a fiancé somewhere so he can never actually offer her a loving future, can't offer her a long happy marriage and if he did convince Bella somehow to be with him when the imprint shows up Jacob will dump Bella faster than a hot potato. So Jacob knows this knows that his imprint is out there somewhere but he doesn't care he just cares about breaking Bella and Edward up he doesn't care that he can't actually offer a true future for Bella but is setting her up for heartbreak and abandonment just so he can lord it over Edward he got his girl. Yeah he is a massive a**hole of the 10th degree and so is his father and the other members of the pack and the tribe for allowing him continue this pursuit just because they hate the vampire's. I also have a major issue with Bella's mother I am willing to bet when Bella was really young she unintentially instilled the notion she had to make other people happy and put other people's needs/feelings first by that when Bella was really young Bella would ask why they had to move, due to Renee forgetting to pay rent 1 to many times, and that she wanted to stay, or about not wanting to go somewhere her mother wanted to or something her mother wanted and Renee would whine at her asking her "But don't you want me to be happy." and probably when other people asked her if she could do a favor for them her mother would say the same thing but it would be "Don't you want them to be happy." basically forcing Bella to grow up thinking she had to make other people happy and put there feels first not to mention having to take care of her scatter brained mother who had to be reminded to pay the bills, rent and go grocery shopping. Willing to bet she stopped visiting her dad and made him visit her not just because she missed the sun but because she was worried about her mother the entire time she was visiting wondering if mother remembered to pay the rent therefore thinking would she have a home to go back to, pay bills and grocery shop therefore was she going hungry. I mean in the first book Bella describes her mother as scatter brained and needing to remind her to do things, makes you wonder how many times that had to move (before Renee saved enough to buy a house then it was possibly mortgage payments unless it was really cheap then no mortgage) because Renee kept forgetting to pay rent or how many times they had their power cut off for the same thing or how many times there was no food in the house because Renee forgot to grocery shop before Bella started to remind her. So Bella was forced at a very young age to be a parent to her own mother basically parentification but instead of towards to a younger sibling but to an adult, also putting her mother's feelings and happiness first (probably was not happy her mother kept switching jobs but her mother would just wine about needing to be happy so kept quiet) also her mother wanted to go on adventures on the weekend so Bella never joined any clubs so she could keep the weekends open so her mother would be happy, so technically her mother was emotionally abusive/manipulative. Also got a problem with Charlie in that Charlie left Bella in that situation as did her maternal grandparents who knew how flighty and stupidly irresponsible their daughter was so all the adults in Bella's life failed her by leaving her in that situation were she basically as a young child became the parent to her mother.

  • @fightingmedialounge519

    @fightingmedialounge519

    3 жыл бұрын

    He may never have met his imprintee.

  • @megannicolefoster

    @megannicolefoster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Each wolf doesn’t automatically have an imprintee. It’s rare so he was assuming he just didn’t have one which is a fair assumption.

  • @saddlerrye6725

    @saddlerrye6725

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@megannicolefoster Yeah, but it also comes with the horrific nature of imprinting. The wolfs think it's rare, but you can't say for sure it won't happen with you. You basically can't start a long-term relationship, because what if? Imprinting is forcing you to care the most about the imprintee, it's not a mid-life crisis when you can just choose to tough it out without cheating. I always wonder why noone is talking about the negative effect imprinting may have on the wolves themselves. Think about it. You may have hated this girl before 'cause she's a b*tch, but after you activate your wolf gene, BOOM, you're ready to change into anything she wants. Not cool... :S

  • @techiepartoriza43

    @techiepartoriza43

    3 жыл бұрын

    If Bella ends up with Jacob. Resume will never happen. Then there's no way Jacob will be imprinted. Because Resume is Bella and Edward's baby.

  • @Genezaret

    @Genezaret

    2 жыл бұрын

    We don't know if it's just with Reneesmee. In fact, it is implied that the imprint is with her because she has the same chromosomes, and the imprint has to do with genetics and looking for the best woman biologically to have the best descendants, and practically Reneesmee is the perfect woman in the universe. So yes, imprinting implies SEX. If Jacob hadn't met Reneesmee, he would have imprinted himself as the second fittest woman in the world and so on.

  • @Ivosferatus
    @Ivosferatus3 жыл бұрын

    And this whole "Twilight" thing started with a (wet) dream...

  • @maralantschner

    @maralantschner

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love ur pb:)

  • @m.4645

    @m.4645

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually that explains A LOT

  • @thomasraines1396

    @thomasraines1396

    3 жыл бұрын

    In the words of a demon from Little Nicky “Gross!”

  • @mercedesbenz6657

    @mercedesbenz6657

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really?, what the Fuck!...

  • @firefly5934

    @firefly5934

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mercedesbenz6657 Yeah, Twilight did come a dream that showed the meadow scene in the first book.

  • @yesimsureienteredmynamecorrect
    @yesimsureienteredmynamecorrect3 жыл бұрын

    The character assassination of Jacob was bad but the way the movies did it to Rosalie is not mentioned enough. I loved her in the books.

  • @Melissa-sx9vh

    @Melissa-sx9vh

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes! In the movies her entire personality is "I hate Bella and I'm pretty" what a way to ruin an interesting character...

  • @athenarocks7657

    @athenarocks7657

    3 жыл бұрын

    Characters like Rosalie and Leah make me so confused. Like, they’re so interesting that idk if Stephanie is good at writing sometimes and gets distracted or bad at writing and stumbles her way into a few gems.

  • @Melissa-sx9vh

    @Melissa-sx9vh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@athenarocks7657 Same! And the birth scene is some good horror too! So idk if she is a good writer or an accidental one.

  • @elizabethashley42

    @elizabethashley42

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@athenarocks7657 I think she's a bad writer with good ideas that she doesn't know how to flesh out. So she writes a boring romance with flat characters and has ideas about interesting characters, but doesn't do more than an aside or backstory for them, and then when she does try to write more about them she wrecks them with bad writing and a failure to understand how people work.

  • @ericas858
    @ericas8583 жыл бұрын

    Bella: "I don't like you" Jacob: "I don't believe you!!"

  • @LePetitDoll
    @LePetitDoll3 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to mention that in the movie (i can't remember if it happens in the book) Bella kept coming on to Edward even though him telling her no more than once.

  • @SamIsWatchingU

    @SamIsWatchingU

    3 жыл бұрын

    Omg good point. I never realized that

  • @SuperWolfman9
    @SuperWolfman93 жыл бұрын

    One of the hypothetically greatest things ever would be Kristen Stewart re-writing the Twilight Saga herself - Bella would be a badass, and she'd have slept with pretty much every hot female character.

  • @oli_kate

    @oli_kate

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yessss

  • @oli_kate

    @oli_kate

    3 жыл бұрын

    Except I feel like it would be more like Bella gets with and explores with characters who are interesting and badass. And Kristen would hopefully remove the racism.

  • @BabyGirlTiny

    @BabyGirlTiny

    3 жыл бұрын

    That wouldn't make the writing better though. It would just appeal to lesbians

  • @onelovelylilidiot4959

    @onelovelylilidiot4959

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BabyGirlTiny It would Kristen Stewart rewriting it ofc it would be sapphic wish fulfilment lmao

  • @wandanemer2630

    @wandanemer2630

    3 жыл бұрын

    Now I need that.

  • @rainpuppies
    @rainpuppies3 жыл бұрын

    Finding the super conservative believes scattered around twilight, specially about marriage/purity/nuclear family/divorce is evil, etc is like, wow Stephanie the mormon really jumped out in this one....

  • @Melissa-sx9vh

    @Melissa-sx9vh

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget the pro-life even if it LITERALLY kills the mother...

  • @Xehanort10

    @Xehanort10

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Melissa-sx9vh And also the "If you're an ethnicity other than white you'll turn white once you become a vampire." Even though there are plenty of black vampires in series who stayed the same race after they were turned.

  • @AllDaGoodUsernamesWereTaken

    @AllDaGoodUsernamesWereTaken

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Xehanort10 The WHAT?

  • @Xehanort10

    @Xehanort10

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AllDaGoodUsernamesWereTaken Meyer has characters of different races turn white after they've become vampires. Apparently Mormons have this really racist belief that black people were cursed with dark skin.

  • @huimang94

    @huimang94

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Cindy Tartt Even if it isn’t “conventional church attitude” it’s part of the doctrine so :/

  • @pixelapocrypha
    @pixelapocrypha3 жыл бұрын

    I remember being so mad at Charlie during the scene after the forced kiss. Like, I already have dad issues myself having two craps ones, and I actually was liking Charlie and then he was all down for assault just because he hates Edward. I choose to believe that scene doesn't exist. We just cut straight to Edward's reaction. Charlie was, uh, at work. Yeah. That's it.

  • @TheRealGSmith
    @TheRealGSmith3 жыл бұрын

    Also: I actually really liked The Short Second Life of Bree Tanner. She's the ONE main character in the entire saga who's not an idiot ^^

  • @jomnix

    @jomnix

    5 ай бұрын

    And she ended up dead, just when she had the possibility of a better life, adopted. Why, Stephanie?

  • @christinaify
    @christinaify3 жыл бұрын

    The makeup was worse in the sequels than in the first movie. The makeup in Twilight is actually pretty damn good! They were pale but not freakish. Their eyes were...off but not inhuman. They were beautiful but not Uncanny Valley beautiful. In later ones I was almost waiting for Edward to look over his becaped shoulder and go, "bleh!".

  • @nekusakura6748

    @nekusakura6748

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought that was more down to Washed out Filters in post production....

  • @taquitotacote3184
    @taquitotacote31843 жыл бұрын

    "Doesn't he own a shirt?" My god his smirk. He must've loved that line.

  • @joeytakemura3475
    @joeytakemura34753 жыл бұрын

    tbh the short life of bree tanner is my favorite of the books and i wish her life wasnt that short

  • @drawingkupfer6967
    @drawingkupfer69673 жыл бұрын

    I remember being with my mother when she watched the movie and, when Jacob kisses her against her will and she breaks her hand, thinking „wtf why is she fine with this why is no one screaming, is this supposed to be romance?!“ And this scene was my first interaction with the twilight saga.

  • @natseritt6252
    @natseritt62523 жыл бұрын

    My dad bought me the whole Twilight Saga and I’m debating whether or not I should lock them away or read through them.

  • @AmandaTheJedi

    @AmandaTheJedi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Read them!

  • @RobinNicoagain

    @RobinNicoagain

    3 жыл бұрын

    Read them. You can do it!

  • @AK-jb4oi

    @AK-jb4oi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Read them and then be angry that we got this story instead of any of the background character's stories which are 1000 times better

  • @imnothere6696

    @imnothere6696

    3 жыл бұрын

    BURN THEM.

  • @christopherhammond5142

    @christopherhammond5142

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd read. They're absolutely garbage, I could only trudge through the first one because the writing is so bad, but when you're young you can forgive terrible writing and at least you'll know what it's all about.

  • @ArturGlass.C
    @ArturGlass.C3 жыл бұрын

    To answer your question: "I was in the closet okay ?!! I figured if I chose the "hot one" people would leave me alone. And it WORKED." But seriously even tho I was team Jacob for that reason even as a teen Jacob's behavior in this movie made me extremely uncomfortable. Safe to say I didn't stan.

  • @agarotaestatueta2811

    @agarotaestatueta2811

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is relatable!

  • @idkmansoundskindagay2709

    @idkmansoundskindagay2709

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same! I always found Rosalie better than both men and didn't watch Twilight for the romance, just the women

  • @gorgannan5177
    @gorgannan51773 жыл бұрын

    "It's just weird to me that she completely altered tribal history." Guessing you don't know much about the Book of Mormon.

  • @DJGaming35744
    @DJGaming357443 жыл бұрын

    Twilight is one of those Franchises where the fan-created content is miles above anything that the source material or actual author have to offer. I would rather spend an hour reading something written by one of the fans that pokes holes into the more nasty bits of the original story, than spend 5 minutes actually reading Twilight.

  • @pompeiiunicorn
    @pompeiiunicorn3 жыл бұрын

    They could've just killed off Jacob... I mean, his story arc got destroyed in this movie, and book (not as if he wasn't already a "nice guy" in the previous book) just... the "I'll just kill myself" card, and then falling inlove with the baby in the next movie... that's definitely not a happy ending for him.

  • @Melissa-sx9vh

    @Melissa-sx9vh

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes that and the fact that in the books and in the movies Jacob says that the wolves who have imprinted on someone don't realise that they are not their own person anymore and that he doesn't envy them...

  • @taylorknight3577

    @taylorknight3577

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean he could have died a hero during the newborn battle

  • @taylorknight3577

    @taylorknight3577

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ok to be fair he probably died doing something stupid but would have been seen as a hero

  • @noelbernabe8704

    @noelbernabe8704

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think imprinting is POTENTIALLY a happy ending for Jacob, in that I think he and Nessie have a fair chance at getting more Twilight spin off books down the line. Because Nessie is a baby, they haven't really gotten a chance to tell their story. I think that's potentially someting for Meyers to mine in the future. Even though yes it's still very very weird.

  • @chuuu4610
    @chuuu46103 жыл бұрын

    I wasn’t a Twilight person when the movies came out since I was like barely 10. But these Twilight centric videos are just so oddly addictive.

  • @aliahwelch4064

    @aliahwelch4064

    3 жыл бұрын

    Literally though. I’ve still only seen the first one- and I’m probably just going to keep rewatching Amanda’s videos instead of the actual movies lol

  • @idontneedaname318

    @idontneedaname318

    3 жыл бұрын

    same man

  • @H.Z.C.

    @H.Z.C.

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same I was 4 when the last one came out

  • @BajanNeko

    @BajanNeko

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aliahwelch4064 I too only watched the first movie. Even before that based on what I was told by a friend (Who loved it) I realised the entire thing was trash but I was still Team Jacob. I regret that.

  • @aliahwelch4064

    @aliahwelch4064

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BajanNeko I’ll stick to being team Alice 🤣

  • @DarkLightHuntress
    @DarkLightHuntress3 жыл бұрын

    25:44 Thanks for the PSA, Amanda. Speaking from personal experience, that type of manipulation is quite scarring if done by someone you care for deeply. I fear the worst part about this series of books and films is that some girls would pursue people like Jacob or Edward and romanticize those kinds of relationships.

  • @realainsmcf
    @realainsmcf Жыл бұрын

    When my friend was showing me the Twilight films, she straight up forgot about Eclipse and we didn’t realize we’d missed anything until about ten minutes into Breaking Dawn pt1

  • @gavinhenderson7250
    @gavinhenderson72503 жыл бұрын

    Despite his flaws at least Edward never forced a kiss from Bella.

  • @Sophie-by9un

    @Sophie-by9un

    3 жыл бұрын

    You know teenage book relationships are problematic when not assaulting their partner is an outstanding positive character trait

  • @gavinhenderson7250

    @gavinhenderson7250

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Sophie-by9un yup that's a clear giveaway.

  • @thomasraines1396

    @thomasraines1396

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s like saying a turd with a little hat on it is better then a run of the mill turd: sure it’s true to an extent but you can’t ignore the glaring fact that it’s a turd.

  • @briannam916

    @briannam916

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ehhh, I mean he did try to force her to have an abortion.

  • @victoriabryer4710

    @victoriabryer4710

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@briannam916 That was to protect Bella from the baby killing her which it did.(not the baby's fault). I think aborting the baby wouldn't work and Bella ends up dying. Hear me out. During the delivery they couldn't get through the sack with a scalpel because the protective sack around the baby is too strong for doctor tools. When did the sack develop it's diamond like hardness? So how are they going to remove it. It's a supernatural being, to which they have no knowledge or experience to deal with it. From the moment she was conceived she was special. She grows at a rapid rate, by the time they get to Carlisle it could be too late. He goes up there and comes back out with a bent tool. The only way would be Edward tearing her out with his teeth killing and turning Bella. Also who's to say after getting the baby out, it would be dead dead, it could still keep half alive because of her human half and growing due to their vampiric powers.She would probably continue to grow outside the womb she will need Incubators with blood feeding tube since she not feeding off of Bella anymore and she can't be breastfed either. Well it's either that or blood bottle feedings in the dungeon, I mean basement, with mommy for a two weeks. Sorry I went off a bit.

  • @j445m1n3
    @j445m1n33 жыл бұрын

    Lemme say it again Team Alice

  • @AngelJuliet
    @AngelJuliet3 жыл бұрын

    Wasn’t it this book where Bella also thinks about how her life would be with Jacob and how she can imagine two boys with black hair and Jacob’s skin tone Running around?

  • @juliacollin98
    @juliacollin983 жыл бұрын

    ”The short life of bree tanner” is actually pretty good, very nice to discover other bits and pieces of the world without the melodrama 😊

  • @fernandamagnus
    @fernandamagnus3 жыл бұрын

    tell me you're LGBT without telling me you're LGBT * shows an alice cullen's t-shirt *

  • @rouju
    @rouju3 жыл бұрын

    That peculiar Amanda's "Aaaaaaah" is always highly appreciated ha ha

  • @maxrona137
    @maxrona1373 жыл бұрын

    "No isn't binding, but a ring is" hit me to my core

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