For the sister i meant to say Half-Sister, as they are related by the same Father, sorry if it caused any confusion!

@nebulochaotic5925

2 жыл бұрын

Im shocked that me and 2 other people got an ad for this game whilst you were talking about it

@Mr.Galaxia

2 жыл бұрын

I got another suggestion how about saiko no sutoka?

@Mr.Galaxia

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry if I’m bothering but these are good suggestions

@ZoeRR

2 жыл бұрын

I love your way of narrate in the videos Please explain rusty lake games next

@gamersault

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mr.Galaxia it's actually on my list, i'll do it at some point, i have some other games i wanna do first!

I really like the father's hypocrisy, mainly for how realistic it is. Blame the main character all you want, but if YOU had been able to keep it in your pants none of this would've happened, dude. Ultimately, YOU are the cause of all the messes around you.

@jknifgijdfui

2 жыл бұрын

Which you cause the game when you highlight over the guy it says you tho in the files his name is aaron i forgot the wifes name and the cop and father dont have names

@IamJacksColon4

2 жыл бұрын

when toxic feminism enters the chat...its just a story relax.

@JaneDoe_123

2 жыл бұрын

@@IamJacksColon4 Are you sure YOU realise this was just a comment/analisys of a game? Because you sound preeettyy offended by me pointing out a cheating spouse's affair was the first domino in a tragic chain of events... Maybe you should relax a little, you're clearly letting all your emotions steer the wheel.

@Alphabetuser123

2 жыл бұрын

@@IamJacksColon4 what?? it's literally just the consequences of him cheating... maybe you're the one who needs to relax

@IamJacksColon4

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alphabetuser123 your comments are just cringe

it's kinda sad that everyone blamed the main character for the death of the wife's mother. Calling him a monster when really he was just an an innocent baby and the product of his own father's infidelity. If anyone was the monster, it was the father for having an affair and then hiding his second child from his daughter.

@vanshr.sachan264

2 жыл бұрын

The story isn't clear though is it? I mean It could that the main character is just experiencing all this in his mind... ( Tbh devs like these always want to fuck with your mind ) But anyway... If it was what happened... Then the game of shifting blame will eventually lead to his father... It was him who started the damn shit show

@drummerboy0262

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@tt_teevy7295

Жыл бұрын

@@j0ellyfish no they are half siblings lol, they have the same dad and different mothers so yes they have shared DNA. Yes it’s incest, yes their baby gon come out mutated af

@tt_teevy7295

Жыл бұрын

That was actually the protagonist in his head. He Deemed himself the monster in his fantasy, and made himself the victim. Now the reasons why, idk there could be a multitude of reasons, it could be the slight morality he has left in his mind getting at him, or because he has an extreme victim complex he thinks everyone thinks he is a bad person

There is a separate ending where you don’t choose. He tells you to imagine a flower which may be the painting in the beginning. Also, the doors could symbolize the choices. The left is if he raises the child, and the right is if he leaves. If he doesn’t choose, the loop restarts again (middle door).

@andrewmckiernan4361

2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t even think of that! The symbolism in this game is mind blowing!

@lukky6648

2 жыл бұрын

Also there so many clues that point out that this all in his head. There is no doorbell to his appartment but the cop always rings it once he arrives. Characters point out clues themselves or even help the player protagonist in such an Obvious way to do things right in the next loop. Such as the cop saying he only listens to his daughter , making you call his daughter next time. The wife's reactions to the thunder , light switch are also unnecessary but she still does it. Before dying by getting strangled the wife finally is about to tell where the watch is but it cuts out because you die just before. Non-canon endings include the husband either saving the day or getting his wife killed.

@blightviolin7322

2 жыл бұрын

Thx

@picrustyumyumethan5792

2 жыл бұрын

wow I didn't even think of it like that great comment!!

@Chadek_T

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder how the left door would play out in the game

Moral of the story: You can forgive a murder, but you can't forgive an incest.

@Comopub

2 жыл бұрын

ost name at 7:02

@davidarvingumazon5024

2 жыл бұрын

Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei

@Comopub

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidarvingumazon5024 that's an animae I guess?

@davidarvingumazon5024

2 жыл бұрын

@@Comopub yes

@CoolJoshido212

2 жыл бұрын

hmm

I honestly do not see how it was the child’s fault for being born. The one who is at fault is the father.

@cjume6001

2 жыл бұрын

Not the mother?

@potatochip4467

2 жыл бұрын

@@cjume6001 Obviously both are at fault but the farther was the one who was married he should’ve known better

@thefireman17492

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is, all of that probably isn't true. The protagonist probably already knew he was her brother, and the father didn't even die in the first place. The loop is just a reality invented by the protagonist where he happily lives with his wife, a reality where his problems don't exist. And all the stuff about the nany and the father is just an excuse invented by him to remind him of the fact that he's her brother, since he forgot thanks to the father's hypnosis.

@hieuvantrung148

2 жыл бұрын

nah,i dont really think anyone i wrong.The wrong one was her and his father for making an affair.Overall,if he knew that she was his siister then maybe they never dated,there's nothing,the marriage,the loop,...

@laurentiusmcmxcv

2 жыл бұрын

@@thefireman17492 I'm still surprised that the father didn't actually die and actually tried to enact his revenge haha

What I love about this game is how there is no one way to do everything. I watched Manly's Let's Play of this game and he found out all the information and endings but with different methods shown in this video. An example is he found out about the Husband's mother's name AFTER peacefully speaking with the cop and giving him the watch without drugging the wife

@livgeneral6487

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking when I saw the husband's break down in this video. I prefer how manlys playthrough showed the truth of him being the brother. It was so devastating and right b4 that we had a sense that oh no don't tell me he's....and then we find out the truth and after everything got fixed! It was such a powerful way to find out in my opinion. Much more interesting and devastating then when he finds out from handcuffing the hit man.

@yuyuyuribong

2 жыл бұрын

@@livgeneral6487 the way hos playthrough worled out hit so good, and manlys theories at the end of the video is so well thought out. genuinely admire how critical manly is of stories, smart guy

@L16htW4rr10r

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I applaud Manly for figuring out how to use the polaroid photo.

@SamiTheAnxiousBean

2 жыл бұрын

I found out about this game due to manly, he is how I find out about many indie games OneShot Omori and Your turn to die were also games I found out about die to him, great guy

@SamiTheAnxiousBean

2 жыл бұрын

@@livgeneral6487 there are so many different ways to get to different situations

Father: has affair and baby with the nanny that leads to wife's death and hits daughter also Father: It's all your fault

@themeinge

2 жыл бұрын

The game is very open to interpretation. The protagonist and the father could be the same person. i.e. when he says: 'it's all your fault' he's speaking to a projection of himself. The bizarre and terrible situation he's imagining may be a manifestation of his own guilt, and this journey is about ending his affair OR saying the hell with it and forgetting his past.

That carpet looks like the carpet in the hotel for the Shining. Also you keep saying step-sister, but she's his half sister. They share a father genetically, which is why it's incest, instead of a step sister which he wouldn't share any DNA with.

@redtalisman8056

2 жыл бұрын

I know that’s the first thing I noticed. I was surprised there wasn’t some Shining reference, or at least not that I noticed.

@qingakabenji9876

2 жыл бұрын

My mind instantly went to the shining a second after seeing the carpet

@chase_h.01

2 жыл бұрын

The moment I saw that carpet pattern I was like, "Yup some fucked shit is about to go down." and indeed it did.

@Forristicat

2 жыл бұрын

I read somewhere that the people involved with the game said it was Shining inspired.

@Potatoesop

2 жыл бұрын

Yo this was brought up in another comment thread claiming that half siblings shared the same father, are step siblings when they share a mother. That commenter was so stupid. Claimed they researched it in google.

Went from trying to survive against green goblin as a hitman to "sweet home Alabama" real quick

Cool game but hard as hell. Whoever succeeded this game without cheating is a real one.

@jackroyaltea5034

2 жыл бұрын

The game didn’t take intelligence. It just too patience. Most people will get frustrated and “cheat” but what they’re really cheating is themselves because this game allows you to explore an amazing concept. I killed my wife once to see what happens. And his freak out was awesome. My dudes a killer now.

@benman92

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackroyaltea5034 just the phrasing,”i killed my wife just to see what happens”, is funny

@Luxliry

2 жыл бұрын

I did and it took 5 hours and 50 mins man I have a headache

@peregrine3400

2 жыл бұрын

It was fun. Honestly, I got stuck for a bit in certain sections. I didn't really know how to proceed when I learnt about the "monster", but then I started thinking about flowers and babies and it led me back to the wife's present. I think it's so much more fun when you discover it yourself because of the connections that your brain makes and cause you to go "Oh, I get it!"

@batguy39

Жыл бұрын

I did 💪🏽🗿

24:29 theres even a baby that cries in one of those apartments this game is so packed with tiny appreciable things and foreshadowing

I like how the watch doesn't have an origin story , yet everything else in the game has.

@EtherealRoninERProductions

2 жыл бұрын

It sort of has this ominous presence, there's no history revealing where it came from, no references, only as if the universe is just portraying his ways through a watch. It's basically if you could go back in time to undo what you did, would you? Pretty much the morale of the game imo You're given all these options which leads to choices that change the future

@blendedmusic7190

2 жыл бұрын

I personally think the watch is just there as a reminder if the room where he was talking to the father. he was facing towards the clock on the wall that had a striking similarity to the pocket watch which opened back up the memory of his conversation with who was presented as the father but as seen later it was not the father but it was the cop which is why the father and the cop have the same voice. He was presented as the father because when he was speaking in the true ending he said something along the lines of "if you do, remember this only in this way" which is an indication that he had hypnotized him to only remember him as the father instead of the cop.

@EtherealRoninERProductions

2 жыл бұрын

@@blendedmusic7190 that's a cool theory

@jsn.9769

2 жыл бұрын

? the game tells you it's an heirloom. it was passed onto the wife when her mother died

From what I recall, there is also a very important element of the husband having problems with his mind/memory. Remember how she put an extra set of keys outside for him? And how he's constantly forgetting things? It suggests that it is indeed just all in his head.

@anxiousseal556

2 ай бұрын

True ending: Husband is just schizophrenic

Man i hate the father here. He made our guy thinks it was his fault -- in fact he knew nothing that they're related by DNA -- when the father is the real source of this mess. Anyway the father REALLY HAS to go through hypnotizing type of stuff to convince the guy to leave his wife/sister instead of *sit down and peacefully talk this through*

@jacobdigby9822

2 жыл бұрын

The father was a piece of crap, but he lost his mistress in child birth, his wife to illness, then was shot by his daughter, and killed by his son. I think cheating is awful, but you are lucky to get even get a settlement in court with how often people cheat nowadays..... the dude got way more than he deserved as well. everyone lost in this story, and no one was innocent. pretty bad when the most sympathetic character is a brother trying to justify staying with his sister after he killed their father and let her bear the blame for 8 years and didn't tell her they were family.....

@yohann3825

2 жыл бұрын

The MC knew though. Like he knows he’s the product of the affair and the father explicitly said that now you want my daughter and at the end he even admits saying reveal that you are her brother.

@damianfigueroa2188

Жыл бұрын

@@yohann3825 I think he had some kind of mental breakdown that caused him to lose his memories of this by essentially altering his mind causing him remember things in such a way that he thinks that his wife and him are not related and he didn't kill his father. I guess he couldn't handle the guilt so his so his subconscious created these new memories so he doesn't go crazy because he does not show that he is healthy psychologically, (well other than being obsessed with his sister) in the game you can kill yourself with the knife and you can either kill your wife or let her be killed by the father.

Saw Manly's Let's Play and was completely confused, probably partially the fault of doing homework at the same time. Thanks for the walk through and explanation.

@vickylarrs8536

2 жыл бұрын

are we the same person wth

@tazunafrom2020

2 жыл бұрын

I also saw Manly's video lmao

@akraman7274

2 жыл бұрын

go to berleezys video where he watches all the endings and he explains it perfectly

I feel this story is very applicable to real life for a lot of people. Having such a traumatic experience in your past (be it family, (dad hating daughter, mum hating son) relationship, (wife/husband) death, (daughter having cancer) poverty (motive for watch). Everyone has gone through something in their past which they are constantly running away from to keep “sane”, the husband having had all these problems (growing up with no family, financial issues, no relationship) is constantly trying to imagine a world where he has each of these things in all the endings - good relationship with his father, a wife whom is partly his sister because he wish he had a family growing up and his soon to be daughter and being there for her (the role his mother didn’t have as she passed away during childbirth). No matter what world is imagined eventually it all comes crashing down by either leaving our safe place (home), waking up (killing ourself) or by someone intervening and crashing down our world (cop). The cop at the end is seen to be the therapist at the end of the game which in this scenario is someone crashing down each imaginary world as WE (the husband) are faced with the realisation that this isn’t real. Ultimately the only way to actually beat the game and achieve the final ending is by accepting the past which we had and by no longer running away from it but confronting it (the husband remembers his past and every event and finally comes to terms with it) and letting go. We end it by hugging our father, entering our safe space which is now cleared of all our false narratives we try to live by (empty apartment) except for one last thing, a watch which symbolises time. However it’s broken once we’ve let everything go which is to represent ourself and mental state when we let all go; all that we are left with is a broken watch with lost time essentially a useless item, but if you try and think back to the past events where the time on the watch is shown we can fix this broken watch and proceed to move on with our life (end game cutscene) which is symbolising how we can actually use our past and all the time we’ve spent thinking about these false narratives and use it as a lesson to help us progress in our own story. In short, don’t let your past problems way you down, don’t run away from it face it and use it to help yourself become the person you’re truly meant to be.

@ScarFaceDom_

Жыл бұрын

as a sapiosexual i was turned on reading that💀 but ty fo explaining

@TheBoboSamurai

Жыл бұрын

So many people (myself included) are indeed trapped in cycles of running from trauma to stay "sane". Allowing the annihilation of our illusions leaves space for the authentic self 🙏 it's a shame so many people never feel safe enough to allow themselves to be born into their eternal selves (cracking of the egg)... A perennial quest 🤔

@kianna4415

Жыл бұрын

@@ScarFaceDom_ as someone suffering from PTSD, I really needed that. Thank you.

This is a very interesting and confusing story so thank for summarizing 12 Minutes GamerSault

@Comopub

2 жыл бұрын

ost name: 7:02 ?

When you really stop and think about it, this story makes absolutely no sense

@itsmedarneezey

2 жыл бұрын

I thought I was the only one who thought that...

@datboy038

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a fever dream. This is not a joke im dead serious im convinced it’s a fever dream

@Azurald55

2 жыл бұрын

@@datboy038 it's all the main character's imagination.

I feel bad for the main character, that's literally all I can say.

@TheDayiDie

2 жыл бұрын

He did bad things but still nobody is innocent in this story

@Tues48

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDayiDie id argue the wife of the father is the most innocent of the story

@Anto-xh5vn

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tues48 Woman

@Tues48

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anto-xh5vn what about women?

@xo0ox508

Жыл бұрын

@@Tues48 he is talking about that are you talking about the woman's father

The whole thing is actually in the Husband's mind. I did not get that ending, but if you continue you get another ending where the father says he has an amazing imagination and power of creating these fantasies and needs to let the Wife go as she was just in his head. The first time you meet the father he has hair and he asks the Husband to leave his daughter which ultimately causes the father's death. But if you pay attention, the second time the Husband sees the Father, he is bald and he says his sister is pregnant with his baby. But that only happened 8 years after the Father's death which further tells us the Husband was imagining it all. Thats the shock the Father was talking about too. That is also the reason Willem Dafoe voiced both the Father and the Cop.

There is a theory that the cop isn't actually a cop nor the father, but a Psychologist whose patient is the husband. Which is why he is recurring and is at times inquisitive and scary, but overall he is friendly and genuinely want to help the Husband out of his horrible relationship.

This kinda reminds me of Happy Death Day with the fact that the character you're playing experiences pain even after the loop and then using info from previous loop to figure out what's happening.

@steph_lopez

2 жыл бұрын

Before that there was Before I fall.

@mellowmallow4855

2 жыл бұрын

@@steph_lopez I loved that book

@EtherealRoninERProductions

2 жыл бұрын

@@mellowmallow4855 how about shutter Island, a movie was made about it too, has the same theme of living in a loop except he doesn't notice it

@mellowmallow4855

2 жыл бұрын

@@EtherealRoninERProductions I haven't seen the movie or read the book. Is that the one where the wife kills the kids by drowning them in a bathtub.

@steph_lopez

2 жыл бұрын

@@mellowmallow4855 It was also made into a movie. It’s actually quite well made.

This game maybe short But it was an experience

@soaringbullet

2 жыл бұрын

Awful experience

@lukky6648

2 жыл бұрын

@@soaringbullet Saddening expirence*

@soaringbullet

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukky6648 no straight up awful, fun for the first little bit and then its just miserable

@riri_2reckless504

2 жыл бұрын

@@soaringbullet I personally don’t think it makes it a bad experience, I think the creator has an excellent mind, with perception of time and definitely unfortunate events, and a really shocking twist in finding out they were related it must have taken the creator a lot of time thinking on how he wanted his game to turn out even though it is sad, the story was definitely compelling I liked all the different endings and if the game makes u sad I think the creator did a good job if he’s able to make us feel such strong emotion behind this twisted story🙃

@soaringbullet

2 жыл бұрын

@@riri_2reckless504 nah i meant the gameplay loop, it was cool for a bit and then it just became tedious and annoying

Damn, the entire game is in his head

MC didn't just hold an L he was fed L's his whole fucking life

Also I'm pissed at the literal plot holes. Why does he have amnesia and how is the watch so OP 🗿

Fun fact: the voice actors for this game are James Mcavoy (the husband), Daisy Ridley (the wife), and William Dafoe (the cop) Edit; y’all chill out, this comment ain’t that deep

@lukky6648

2 жыл бұрын

@Tristan Lane It mignt be a short game but its quality is better than most Triple A games , Those 3 actors have done a remarkable job in some of their movies which was needed for a deep game like this. As for why the father and cop sounds the same , its because they are the same person. Everything in the apartment is in the protag's head , which is why he imagines his father to be wall standing between his relationship as a cop

@kaeyakisser

2 жыл бұрын

@Tristan Lane the dad and the cop are the same person, the loop is in his head

@samw2670

2 жыл бұрын

Wow would never of known that……. Its in the credits

@mobious01

2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: you find the names during the credits and intro

@user-mj3ty9nd9i

2 жыл бұрын

It's William DaFRIEND NOT william dafoe :(

That's actually kind of sad.

I just realized the carpet outside is a reference to the shining

The fact that James McAvoy (aka Young Professor X) and Daisy Ridley (aka Rey from star wars) voice the husband and wife is just amazing. Their American accents make them so unrecognizable that if I had played this game knowing nothing I wouldn't have guessed

@joshualeahy2162

2 жыл бұрын

@@whitewall5977 Heh heh bald man go *brrr.* 👁️👄👁️

@lionlickers6058

2 жыл бұрын

@@whitewall5977 you’re so mad about great voice acting in a game you dont like that you’re watching videos and leaving comments bitching about it. Get over it dude lmao

Imagine that the cop is the future husband and her daughter got cancer bcs her parents are half-sister (nah that's crazy man)

@vysharra

2 жыл бұрын

One generation of incest doesn’t cause that big of an issue. Most problems are caused by many generations of closely related people inter-marrying. If you came from a group like and then had a kid with your half-sibling, it might cause immediate problems but cancer isn’t likely.

@JDM-is-my-name

2 жыл бұрын

@@vysharra it depends on the genes you have. If two people, who just happen to be siblings, both carry a sub-gene which could heighten your chances of cancer or any other diseases, then as they procreate, there is a higher likelihood had there will be no dormant none-sick gene or a "cover up" gene Yes, it's more unlikely, but there is a chance, especially if there is cancer in the family line

@vysharra

2 жыл бұрын

@@JDM-is-my-name you would need both parents to be carriers of a faulty gene and then it would be at best a 25% chance they would have a child where the faulty gene is activated. But honestly, I don’t know of any cancer caused by inbreeding. Even people with confirmation of carrying genes for things like breast cancer or stomach cancer aren’t *guaranteed* to get that specific cancer. Just more likely.

@defaulted9485

2 жыл бұрын

@@vysharra Even so... most diseases in medical are rated by terms of 1 in x million of people due to how rare it is supposed to be. Like 1 in a million, thats 0.00001%. How about something common like Influenza, which have 9% annual infectivity rate. Compare that to 25% chance of faulty gene in an inbreeding. That 25% (at best) is a disastrous number of chances, which all doctors would agree to NOT even take. It's not guaranteed to lead to a deformity, but dear God it's monstrously risky. Even worse is that regular family have 2 childrens or more, which means it's a chance of 43% chance of a disaster to happen at least once. It's not something to be ignored and this is why we take inbreeding seriously even in the first lineage.

@JDM-is-my-name

2 жыл бұрын

@@vysharra as I said in my original reply, "it's more unlikely, but there is a chance" Normal people also get cancer and, imagine for a moment if you will, that a grandparent of the husband and wife had cancer, even if treated, it would still give their children a higher chance of cancer (this of course not something we have any prove of, just an idea presented) My own mother had cancer and my younger sister has a different dad, who also has had cancer in his family. My sister has a higher risk of getting cancer. We are not inbred. Now image, as I stated above, that the grandparent had cancer. Now, no matter what, both the people in the couple has cancer in the family and therefore, the chances of their children having cancer is heightened and since the baby Dahlia is a result of incest, the chances are 2x I hope it makes sense and I'm not trying to say anything bad about you, I'm just trying to explain my thought pattern on this matter :) When the gene poll is smaller and if there is any cancer is the shared bloodline (or even on one single side, like if grandma Dahlia had cancer) there is naturally a higher chance of cancer spreading and not having a "cover up" gene

Feel like so many people hated the twist In this timeline where slasher, xxx, and weird movies thrives, I guess incest is a bit too much for them ?

@Jezzikinz

2 жыл бұрын

I mean...yes? tbh i love this game but i did think that was kinda unnecessary...

@shadowarro9426

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jezzikinz Maybe

@CoolJoshido212

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jezzikinz does it matter

This game indeed seems very mysterious.... I love your vids and I can give you a few suggestions for the next game you can theorize next: 1) 2015 Steam Horror Game Wick 2) Tattletail 3) Bendy and the ink Machine 4) Gone Golfing 5) Unforgiving: A northern Hymn

@gamersault

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for the suggestions :)

@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583

2 жыл бұрын

Is bendy still going????? I thought it got cancelled after all the controversy, did it got bought or is it still the same crew?

@surajitsadhya

2 жыл бұрын

@@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583 no after that there was Boris and the dark survival and then there will be an upcoming game bendy and the dark revival

@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583

2 жыл бұрын

@@surajitsadhya same crew or new people?

@surajitsadhya

2 жыл бұрын

@@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583 a few new people will be added as there will be more characters:)

The trailer for the game literally appeared before I watched this video. Spooky, right? 👻

@alyssaedwards6938

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@aanylagrant8482

2 жыл бұрын

Same here

@chuubm

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@Peanut_person88

2 жыл бұрын

Thats because your ads are related to what you're watching. It's not a coincidence

@negative8music810

2 жыл бұрын

That's just Google showing you stuff based on what you watched

This doesn't cover the ending where the protagonist quotes the red book his wife was reading. He has the option of forgetting everything he learned

So that means by listening to the explanation wife's father got a heart when he first found out his daughter is pregnant and what actually already killed his happiness from shock and live with guilt is the truth when he found both half siblings ( his children ) having an affair and he wish he could turn back time to avoid such tragedy all reflect on the cop's finding the watch for his daughter cancer treatment

The ending was very underwhelming considering the amazing build up imo. Maybe it’s because I’m not a big fan of “ohhh it was all in your head” type of stories.

@newyardleysinclair9960

2 жыл бұрын

Because they are cheap. You can take a story anywhere and then end it with "it was all in your head" That takes no skill. It's so lazy to me

This is excellent! You picked up on details that I didn't even notice, like the little, third tree in the painting, and the figures on the key matching the ones on the clock. I feel like I've finally got an answer to what happened to the baby at least (As I was dying to know) - If the tree paintings are truly a metaphor for the husband, wife, and child, like you say - Which I think they are - The wife had an abortion.

7:38 I know it’s just the mans mind but did he have to think of a detail where the “cop” stages her death as a suicide.

@Comopub

2 жыл бұрын

ost name at 7:02?

love how u explained this whole thing yet i’m still confused 😻

im so glad you covered the game I love it so much and it's incredibly underrated for how good it is the story and writting so so realistic aswell Like that panic attack he had once finding out or the fact that he doesn't immidiatly die after shooting himself in the head the fathers hypocrisy aswell

4:34 "... Resembles more of a hitman rather than an actual cup"

There are alot of stories where the persons consciousness gets erased by every loop. Just knowing he remembers every loop and knows hes going to do it again is terrifying to think of.

@trainwreck7125

2 жыл бұрын

How would that even be a loop for them then if their memory is erased? Like wouldn’t that just be like their experiencing it for the first time every time?

@elenabrusturan

Жыл бұрын

@@trainwreck7125 it is a loop for the person playing the game.

@wolfeevi

8 ай бұрын

@@elenabrusturani dont understand

@elenabrusturan

8 ай бұрын

@@wolfeevi you, the player, are put in a loop. The character you play as forgets everything. It's up to you to remember what you've done in past loops and the result you got

@wolfeevi

8 ай бұрын

@@elenabrusturan ohhh that’s interesting!

Taking “what are you doing step bro” to a whole new level😂

WHAT ARE YOU DOING STEP BRO

Dude ended up having a whole relationship with his half sister. Oh that's messed up

@TheNinjaNiky

2 жыл бұрын

If I remember right, they didn't know they were related when they first started dating. The MC didn't know until he was told, but already in love with her. Not great, but better than starting a relationship with knowing it's your sibling😂

@OnyxeBlade

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheNinjaNiky I know the husband didn't know that his wife was his sister when they first dated. However I know the revelation would had messed me up if I was him lol

@TheNinjaNiky

2 жыл бұрын

@@OnyxeBlade me too, but I would also understand how someone would not want to stop. It's a double edged sword really. No right answer or scenario

Dude, as I clicked on the video, I got an ad that talked about this game xD

Hm, I was under the impression that the wife and husband met and really hit it off after she ran away thinking she killed her father. Then the husband decided to tell the father about the woman he wanted to date.

I really did wish this was a short series on netflix

I think we're looking at a character that wishes he could take his mistakes back, I think we are looking at him from the library of prison/psyche ward, after he was unable to deal with his inability of foresight to change the future, he looks back and chooses to forget and continue. I think he goes through all these struggles and is put through a time loop as his hypnosis tries to make sense of his struggle to have family and the motif of trauma block to forget that he is the monster is a common get away for people who can't take responsibility for their actions. I think that he never made it home that night and blames himself for not being able to stop her from being killed and turns himself in after he forces himself to face the truth.

@Comopub

2 жыл бұрын

ost name 7:02?

Hey! I suggest you should uncover the story of the "Mother" psychological horror game. (( Love your videos btw))

The actions of the parents fall heavily on the children. If they had grown up together, none of this would have happened.

@ryanchurchill5081

Жыл бұрын

I believe there was a Greek story similar to this but it is the mother he falls for and kills his father.

Great game and good video. I wonder if there is a hidden ending somewhere yet to be found. That would be sweet.

oh great father... go blame your children for you not controlling your thing 🙄🙄🙄

This is such a cool game what, also you definetely have some experience explaining time loops considering your vids on Little Nightmares 2 lol

Thanks for the explanation man, I was really confused

I was so gung-ho on figuring out how to finish the game that when I reached the ending, I didn't clue in to the meaning. I had a different ending altogether though. At the end, I didn't want to give up on the relationship and you fight the father to which the red book fell. I clued into that so the next loop, I clicked the red book on the bookshelf and quoted that special passage and the father went on with a monologue to which I wanted to gain information but it also lead to the credits. Seeing this video's ending honestly made me even more confused and I'm no longer further forward in my quest of gaining meaning. Lmao. I actually never clued into the painting's changing so that was neat to see.

For context, I grew up playing video games, beginning with the Atari 2600, and they have been a passion of mine my entire life. When I heard about this game, it registered on my radar (especially since Annapurna was involved) and I recognized that it looked interesting, but not enough to make me rush out and get it day one. Although I believe Game Pass is an amazing service (and deal), I just do not have the time to make it worth it. Last week (November 2022) I happened to catch that 12 Minutes was on sale and thought I would give it a try, which is why I am coming at this over a year after release. I did not read any reviews or watch any analysis videos before my first play through; however, I went deep into that arena after I was done with the game (i.e., experienced all the endings). Even though I have a strong stomach, I will admit that there were things about the game that initially disturbed me - things I did and things I learned that certainly did not make me feel good. Although I found some very interesting and insightful theories (yours included!), it never quite sat well with me and I found myself replaying and going over every little detail (the rings of the clock, whether the Father has hair or not in the library, when the paintings change, etc.) to try and definitively answer the question: Why did the developer, who has a reputation for producing fascinating experiences, craft this game in the way they did? Despite all the high concept theories, I still felt like something was missing. The theory I am about to propose finally donned on me as I was contemplating the absurdity of the situation where the only way to get the final twist is to show the Cop the onesie at the precisely correct moment. We as the player already know Husband's mother's name was Dahlia, and we know that Husband knows his own mother's name. Why the hell couldn’t he have just said that in that moment: "Wait, was her name Dahlia?" Why make us go through the trouble to figure out such an obtuse way of presenting this information? And then it hit me…. what if that was the developer's intent all along? What if the purpose of the experience was to develop a construct that would test how far YOU as the player, the one who is ultimately controlling the actions of the game character, would go to “finish the game”? We as gamers have been conditioned for decades to believe that games include a beginning ("Press Start") and a predetermined end - it is our job to figure out how to get there, and we typically enjoy doing so, which is ultimately why we love playing. Over and over and over again, this is what playing a video game boils down to. If my theory is correct, the brilliance of this game experience is that the plot and the disturbing twists and the horrific violence has nothing to do with the game world itself, but has all been crafted to see how far you are willing to go, how deep are you willing to dig, to do the one thing you think you are supposed to do in every game you play - finish the game. Think about all the awful things YOU did (drug your pregnant wife, torture and kill a man, use a man's cancer stricken daughter as a pawn, etc.); think about the horrific things you witnessed because of the actions YOU took (watching your pregnant wife be murdered and framed for suicide while you hide in a closet, watch your father die at your hand, etc.) ; think about how hard YOU had to work to figure out the obtuse puzzles to advance the plot (the light switch, the onesie, calling Bumblebee, etc.). And all for what? Only to discover that the climax of the plot is that your character killed his father and married and impregnated his sister? [borderline Oedipus complex, right?] All your trial and error, all the trauma you put yourself through, only to uncover an unquestionably disturbing revelation. It’s difficult to imagine a more horrific scenario, which I believe is the point. The whole thing is set up to challenge and punish you for your preconceived notions about what a video game is. Only by YOU choosing to advance the plot (and working extremely hard to do so) do you experience the atrocities and reveal the final abomination. Everybody seems to want to come down on the developers for trying to be "shocking" and that the puzzles were too obtuse and that the whole thing "doesn't pay off", but what they are forgetting is that THEY are the ones who chose to continue to go down that path. THEY are the ones who tried every crazy possibility and committed unspeakable atrocities to advance the plot. The developer did not force us to do these things - we chose to do them because we cannot help ourselves and we will do whatever it takes to “finish the game”. Don’t believe me? See what happens if YOU don’t touch the controller/mouse on your first loop...

@DeuceGenius

6 ай бұрын

What happens?

Shits really went from murder mystery to sweet home alabama in 12 minutes

I’m very interested in what a speedrun looks like considering all the different paths you can take.

I am so confused, so if anything the main character is not the one at fault here right? Because he didnt know anything.

@paulbrown9328

2 жыл бұрын

That’s what I’m saying. The only thing he did wrong was not tell the wife after he found out. But the whole situation is the father fault as he caused the whole situation. If he hadn’t kept them apart it wouldn’t have happened. He also got himself killed he pulled the gun on the husband.

He is the half brother not step brother which makes it more disgusting because the husband and wife are blood siblings

So Glad I sub to you, I have no idea what this game is about XD

How does a 12 minute game turn into a half an hour deconstruction

Great video, keep it up! :)

Lemme see if i got this right. There exists 2 timelines in this story. Man knocks up his half sister then after this multiple timelines exist depending on player choice. Once in the library we can choose to forget the wife, in which the murder doesnt happen and we get a good ending OR choose to continue with incest and the loop perpetuates because the father gets shot leading to the apartment and eventually back to the dad again. So lesson is: Dont make f*cked up choices and learn to forget your past.

the reflecion of the carpet ( 24:05 ), thats the carpet from the movie "the Shinning" I Have Ascended .

I believe there's an ending where the father hypnotizes the husband and makes him forget that the wife is his sister. I think that's the best ending. Cuz they already have a child and are madly in love. It'd just be such a damn shame to completely fuck that up. Yeah it's fucked up, but there's no turning back and it's better than traumatizing and also breaking the wife's heart

@snowflake6421

2 жыл бұрын

Nah the best ending is when he doesn't pursue her.

@Assass1n_KingOfTheSimps

2 жыл бұрын

@@snowflake6421 yeah but the others are nothing but heartbreak and a possible abortion

@SofiaAgnew

2 жыл бұрын

I would like to believe that but in reality it's still sick and the poor child could end up with a disability because two half siblings decided to fuck....

@demonwolf570

2 жыл бұрын

​@@snowflake6421 No it isn't! It's not his fault his father cheated and lied! Why should they give up their happy life because of what he did?

@snowflake6421

2 жыл бұрын

@@demonwolf570 Didn't said it was his fault. The reason is because he's her half-sister. They might as well ruin their lives if they have a baby that is a cyclops.

I just let the father bleed out then found out his daughter has cancer and he was begging for his life and saying "please please I'm gonna die" then he did now I'm sad because I thought he deserved it

PLEASE PLEASE DO THIS GAME IS FOR ANNA ! ITS VERY INTERESTING WITH A VIBE OF DARK WEB! It's like Anna is "missing" of course that's the point but my theory is. That Anna girl "died" or has been "murdered"

@CoolJoshido212

2 жыл бұрын

alright

Timing was perfect I just got an ad about 12 minutes and I'm watching this video about 12 minutes

I'm pretty sure in the beginning the reason why the time loop restarted after 10 minutes was because he got killed or died or passed out

I love the Shining reference!!

Watched xQc’s playthrough of this. he didn’t quite understand the ending enough to explain it so I had to find out. I like these kind of logic/time loop games. Great video!

This game is incredible. So much deeper than I thought when I first saw it.

I got an ad for this game while watching the video haha👌👌😂😂

@nebulochaotic5925

2 жыл бұрын

SAME THOUGH

@joshualeahy2162

2 жыл бұрын

Rad

I love your videos you make my day man keep going 🔥

@gamersault

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Will do :)

@qazisgone7292

2 жыл бұрын

@@gamersault Can you please do lost in vivo next cause I'm really confused about the story

Yo I just realized before you hear the cop you hear someone walking, when you look out of the peephole while this is happening you see no one in the hallway. My theory is that the person walking is on a higher floor and that is the future husband after he broke the thread of time. I know it seems like a odd theory but it might be true.

i feel bad for the main character and it hurt me with the wife's responses after the mc remembered and confessed to the wife the things he forgotten (or the things that the father wiped out by hypnotizing him I guess)

Half blood siblings, step is if siblings are married into the family but have no blood/genetic relation.

19:23 Shouldn't have bought that rug from the Overlook Hotel, that's for sure. (: Thanks for the videos!!!

This feels like shutter Island, keep out and the shining mixed into a game with a little touch of little nightmares

I got an ad for this game on this video

Anyone noticed that the carpet outside the door looks like the carpet from the shining?

the dad is william, the cop, is william, sooooo if she killed her dad, who is also his dad, who is also the cop. so yeah how does that work

I actually saw the commercial for the game as I'm watching the video

That ending had me NERVOUS LAUGHING

This wasnt a game for me it was a like a real thing for me experiencing and exploring new things its truly a masterpiece need a movie on this and need more games like this ❤️

It’s an infinite time loop. The husband learns of the events and realizes he is the stepbrother. Then is transported to the past and enacted the past events that cause the future events.

I think a really cool ending could have been the man going back so far to be born from another woman, meeting the wife and then having a happy ending with the girl (who would not be his half sister this time)

Weird how I got a 12 minutes ad while watching this, not really but yea

IRONIC THAT I GET AN AD FOR THIS GAME RIGHT BEFORE THE VIDEO STARTS

So when i went back to the father he was bald with a beard just like the cop. Also i quoted the book to him and it ended with him telling man he could make him forget. He then gave a speach about focusing on the bud of a flower...

dude is that carpet in the beginning from the shinning?

This game is a masterpiece.

1. How about the cop (actually not the cop, but the killer) being the father at the same time. 2. How does the woman thinks that she killed her father? What causes this? 3. As the protagonist, our guy gets the watch in the "alone" scenario but woman thinks that she gets the watch in all the other scenarios? I'm quite confused actually, if you could answer these clearly I'll be glad! Thanks for the painting information tho I haven't realised it until I watched your video.

HES BACK!!!!!

The floor pattern is from "Steven King's The Shing" cool little Easter Egg.

Something I like is that the floor kinda looks like the floor of the overlook hotel in the shining