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@kaidenspapaw

3 жыл бұрын

Plug wires crossed

@rickdickens4786

3 жыл бұрын

My guess and it’s educated because I’m 63 and have worked on the old cars. The timing is off and yes points but the timing chains over time stretch and can jump time a lot if it’s old and worn out like me. Lol. I wish you’d checked the timing when you had water pump off because I believe the chain is behind the water pump. Good luck !

@pb-pw4lw

3 жыл бұрын

Check with a timing light

@donselke9487

3 жыл бұрын

,Randy check the nada classic car values

@donselke9487

3 жыл бұрын

180 is correct thermostat temp

Sounds like the timing has changed or possible plug wires crossed

@TwentytenS4B8

3 жыл бұрын

Engine is running hot AF and he mentioned a backfire on decel. The timing is off. Bet you the distributor is shot.

@neilmurphy845

3 жыл бұрын

Ya sounds like that to me to

@rockstarltu

3 жыл бұрын

checking the fireing order

Cylinders 1 and 2 have leaking intake valve guide seals. Replace them all as I suspect what you stated as running rich on some plugs is probably oil fouling.

I don't see a fan shroud. The cooling escapes without it.

@MRZ1234ify

3 жыл бұрын

Ape Gorrillo we’ll also it looks like the cooler was replaced that cooler is shiny

@awhs-uc3ng

3 жыл бұрын

@@ApeGorrillo I had three poly 318's, all with 180F thermostats, none with a shroud. no cooling issues. When you test drove it, I didn't see the temp gauge move, so maybe the sender or its wire need checking.

@ronalddaub7965

3 жыл бұрын

@@awhs-uc3ng absolutely not all old engines needed or had shrouds

You must get the service manual for the car. The manual will have all the information you need to do the job correctly.

@kruleworld

3 жыл бұрын

Next tell us we should read the manual... :-)

@stiltner1972

3 жыл бұрын

Evil Ash RTFM!!! 😂😂🤷🏻‍♂️

Randy , you should have painted the value cover it would make it look tidy under the hood .

Old-school cars need to have the dwell set for the points and the timing must be set with a timing light. Those cars also have timing chains. Bad timing chains or gears can also create problems with timing.

It’s pretty easy to convert that to a electronic ignition, the kit comes with a ballast resistor, distributor (with magnetic pickup) and a orange ignition box.

Check timing and make sure plug wires are on right. Just had a guy in with a Chevelle running bad like that and found plug wires were on wrong. Switched them around to the right firing order and the car smoked like hell when first started but smoothed out and runs great. Maybe that's why plugs weren't looking the same ?

your belt's loose... plus leaving the ignition on all night overheats and kills the coil ... i bet that was your problem

I’d say the temp sensor is faulty and telling u bs on the gauge Or the timing is out U may also have air in the cooling system too. Put electronic points in it

Here's som.old school do not leave key on a points system it burns contacts and messes up condenser for sure. Where's fan should that will definetly run hot without one.

@danvetor1365

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Probably not the thermostat. No shroud may be more of an issue.

Hello from Prince George BC Canada What have done in the past older vehicles after sitting I put 1 can of Sea Foam in the tank and 1 can in the oil and drive. You see a large difference in a short time. I have done this about 30 times works wonders. SWEET LOOKING 66 Fury

Convert to electronic ignition system with centrifugal advance dizzy it will give you a better spark and fuel economy.....

Randy, see the oil laying on bottom of the head,drain back holes are getting plugged, use a striaghtened wire coat hanger to rod them out.

Never wanna leave the key on with points ignition sometimes it can stick the contacts together. Food for thought !

Great Video Randy! My parents had one! Looking around and talking to a friend, he recommends a 180d thermostat for the 318. Keep us informed how things go with the continued tune up!

3:06 Man I love this Fury II. Reminds me of my 4 door '65 Ford Galaxie I used to have back in the early 90s. Love it man, just love it!

Like someone else mentioned. Ck the firing order. You have two plug wires crossed. The backfire was due to the unburned gas from the crossed wires. 195 t stat is a little high. A lot of those older cars ran closer to a 160 degree.

Check the spark plug wires, one may be bad. We had a 1967 in 1971 that we really beat on, towing a 1500lb trailer between Baltimore and Ocean City every weekend for my band. I loved that car- it never left me walking. Same powertrain.

As I mentioned before the car needs a 180 thermostat. A 195 is too high especially with no fan shroud.

i would NEVER admitted the I forgot the rotor......You are an honest Man and found humor in your mistake! Way to go!

But u also need a shroud around fan blades

on those oldies tune up required points, plugs., cap rotor. timing and sometimes carb minor adjustment every 30,000 miles

Hey, Randy, two little tips for the auto-focus... first is your camera [picture quality] is very good, so really no need to hold parts quite so close to the camera, second is the wide angle and depth of field is what causes the auto-focus to struggle sometimes, so pop your other hand behind the part to give more foreground subject for the sensor to pick up and focus on.

Fan shroud?

@montyholland3357

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely needs the fan shroud. That'll end the heating issues on the temperature

Of course you know obviously that the battery 'tie-down' needs secured. It helps avoid excessive vibrating which then as the battery ages shakes particles loose inside that will ground out the plates and actually internally short out cells and ultimately destroys and kills the battery. I also agree with the comment about the need for a radiator shroud, even if you have to JB weld the shroud if there isn't already a set up for adding a shroud. Good luck Randy as I think you are doing a great job. I have a 1972 Dodge Dart 4 door with the 318 and I haven't started it for about 5 years. I did use Sta-bil including some of the new Sta-bil 360 that 'vaporizes the entire fuel system to protect it.

Point gap and oil the distributor cam that the pouts ride so they don’t wear closing the point gap then set the timing to 10-12 BTDC then adjust the air/fuel screws and set the idle speed

Randy, you should install a winch on the other side of the shop.

160 degree F is the correct thermostat. 195 is too hot. In the summer with the 195'f, you will get pinging - pre-ignition / pre-combustion. Since you washed the engine, make sure there is no water in the distributor. Take the cap off and dry her out with an air hose. Same for the cap. I did the same thing to my Mom's 1964 Dodge Polara. Thought I was doing a good thing washing the engine. As for the points, you need a dwell meter to accurately set the point gap. You will know the gap is correct when she starts easily. Oh, dwell setting is 30 degrees.

This is why you never wash a Dodge Engine even the modern engine don’t like getting wet.

Randy when you do any type of tune up you have to check timing and carb adjustment. Now you changed the plugs did you do the wires? Cap and rotor and yes by all means points and condenser. Then after everything is done check timing the adjust the carb. Remember no computer on this old girl. It is all manual adjusting. Make sure you have a new vacuum hose connecting the advance make sure it is not leaking or it is so old it collapses when you accelerate. For the temp if it remains in the high normal range on these hot days that is ok winter is coming. When you get this car dialed in you will be surprised with the performance. I had a 69 dodge dart with the same 318 in it.

Check and make sure you have no plug wires crossed, replace the points and condenser, and check the the timing. I know they (who ever they are) make conversion kit so you can convert it from points to solid state, I would. The carburetor maybe fine but from the looks of it I would rebuild it. You could have a vacuum leak around the throttle shaft (old and wore out) through the carburetor and when you punch it the problem gets covered up. I had a carburetor with a problem like that. Bushing kits are made for carburetor throttle shafts. As far as the thermostat I do not know but I would bet a 180 degree one.

@fredmaxwell9619

3 жыл бұрын

@@jbncnow Yes I was thinking that later also.

Hi Randy you are so lucky to find these beautiful automobile in your location, I’m from Canada I love those old car from the past keep going.

With the corrosion in the distributor, the advance weights underneath the breaker plate may need attention - cleaning, inspection, and a little lube. Change the points, adjust them, then set the timing to factory specs. You may also have a carb issue and/or a vacuum leak causing the light throttle issue. I had a '66 Fury III hardtop in the late '80s/early '90s, and it was the best riding car of any of my collector cars, bar none. Put 100K miles on that car, loved it.

I had a very similar problem with my 1964 Buick 425 nailhead...Had new points ,plugs ,rotor, and wires as well as a new coil. Finally tested spark at each plug and found brand new ignition wire defective..must have been an internal break...A new set of wires had it running perfectly.

Check to make sure the firing order is right. By the looks of the plugs, you have some wires not in the correct order. It also could be timing and points and rotor.

Oh and one more thing all spark plugs have a number for a heat range make sure you get the right plugs for your engine

I'd love to have that car , it's just like the one my dad had when I was a little boy, rode and slept in the back window when I was little, traveling late at night

@montyholland3357

3 жыл бұрын

I did the same thing in our 72 Chrysler Newport custom

Ive had this problem before on an old pickup. What it was was the Excelerator pump has a pin hole in it & when it’s low rpm gas goes thru that hole & is flooding it out. Rebuild the carb & it will solve your problem.

The off idle circuit in the carburetor is causing the rough running. Depending on what type of carb it is you can try to spray carb cleaner through the internal passages right above the throttle blades or you will have to disassemble it to properly clean all the passages.

Those cars used 180 degree thermostats. A lot of people used 170 degree, and they made the engines run too cold.

Randy, I think it all comes back to leaving the ignition on. Normally if you leave the ignition on, it burns out both the points AND the condenser! I do think this is your problem. Hope this helps mate Cheers

This is a very nice car u have there. I would just tighten up the alternator belt, look like I had a little slop in it as in loose wise. Other than that it's a real sweet car!!!

My 58 318 had the same symptoms, cruising it would miss, heavy acceleration it would run great, couldn't believe it but it was the points and condenser.

Checkout the fan belt appears to be loose around the alternator. Temp fix might be spray electrical cleaner around the bottom of the distributor. A very good cleaning was something we did in the sixties on Chevy and Mopar cars. Worked back then.

I just replaced a thermostat in a '67 Phoenix last weekend and put a 71°c or 160°f in it and the temp is a needle width under half. It did go up to 2/3rds on the drive before coming back down. Probably due to an air pocket. Part number TT2-160.

Burp the radiator to get the air out. Check the float on the carb to make sure it is clean and not sticking.

I agree with other commenters. Check for a crossed wire and then I would check timing. I would also rebuild the carb and replace the choke. Cheap parts.

Check for vacuum leaks first...then you got a hundred possibilities after that. Keep the hood closed..can't continue to look upon those valve covers and intake manifold and 2 barrel carb.

I like the Fury, but LOVE the Coronet. Keep restoring the Coroner. She's full of character

Check the spark plug wires, 2 may be wrong. The thermostat 195 is for winter use, the 180 would be much better. You need to get out the timing gun and set the timing. New coil and new plugs mean the spark fires quicker and hotter than before.

First plug appeared to be oil fouled. The others looked lean. Adjust carb and check timing. Timing can affect running temp as well.

You need a fan shroud on your radiator. That will help with temps. I would also check the timing.

195 is to high also you don’t have a shroud on the radiator. It really needs that. Go with 185.

@gmcjimmy3580

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely it will run hot with out the shroud, totally agree.

New wires in the correct order. It ran better at the beginning of the episode. I bet wires are switched. And as someone else, get the electronic ignition. You don’t need to be messing with points.

That radiator cap could fall onto the fan when left on the radiator while the engine is running. Always check for items of this type before starting a car you are working on.

The look like they have normal carbon on them. 2 are oil fouled. It the oil foul from ring wear or from valve guide seal being dry out. You will need to do a compression check to see if the oil fouled ones are worn out rings or valve guide seals causing oil fouling problems? valve guide seals can be replaced with the heads on its a neat trick you air up the cylinder and then remove the valve spring the air keeps the valve from falling down into the cylinder. then you can remove the valve guide seals and replace them. One by one with each valve closed.

Randy, I believe your problems are with the carb. I would run a timing light just to be sure the timing is correct. But, I would take the carb apart and clean it and replace the accelerator pump. Those have been known to cause a stumble upon acceleration when failing.

180 is correct thermostat but I don't think 195 would almost peg the temp gauge like that. But there's only one way to find out, change thermostat to 180. I love love love that car Mr. Shear, it's appealing in it's originality!

Good Lord Randy DONT SELL THIS CAR!! Please :-( I love this Car. Saddly it cost to much to send it over to Germany. I would buy this Car in a Heartbeat.

It almost sounds like timing or a crossed plugwire

With engine running slacken the distributor hold down bolts and turn distributor body clockwise or anti clockwise until engine runs smooth then retighten bolts.

You should ditch the points on this one and put the electronic Petronix in the distributor. It’s backfiring too because it needs the air cleaner bolted on.

Set your points at. 014-.016, check for vaccum leaks adjust the carb

just a few tips for next time you do your oil on one of these old gals, use diesel oil ...they contain more zinc and detergents that these old gals need, and as a bonus, they tend to be cheap use a oil flush...it can't hurt and gets more of the crud out , do the change while the old gal is warm to hot ...use an old rag on the plug if need be ... while warm the crud gets suspended in the oil and you get more of it out ... I've seen more than one old engine die due to crud blocking up the galleries due to doing the oil change while cold ... if you don't believe me go watch junkyard digs or vgg ...those guys specialize in reviving old gals that sit for years

Definitely a poly head motor. The later LA 318 has the valves in line on one side of the rocker shaft and has wedge shaped combustion chambers.

Sell the jeep and Hell cat and keep the 2 classic cars

@kruleworld

3 жыл бұрын

so he should trade in his reliable dailys and keep his two weekender-only cars? Question: have you ever lived with an old car?

@rickeaton5288

3 жыл бұрын

@@kruleworld yes but if you follow his videos he said the same thing as he's always driving the truck the Jeep and Hellcat are play toys. This is his own words.

@rickeaton5288

3 жыл бұрын

@@kruleworld I told you he was going to get rid of the Hellcat.

Thermostat for that car should not be over 180 degree's.

double check the plug wireing (firing order) replace those old points with generic points from auto zone or advance and condensor too,check vacum line to the spark advance then throw a timing light on it ,dial it in to factory and put the breather back on there.

Could be old gas, or water in gas which caused engine to run to hot. But when you change gas filter bump gas in tank and check for problems with gas

I would check the timing chain and the cars timing. Check the vacuum advance and the vacuum hoses. I recommend you should eliminate the points, etc. and replace the distributor with a Mallory Distributor. In the day, Mallory made a great transistor distributor (Mallory also had a high performance transistor distributor). Please do transmission service by dropping the pan and replacing the filter, pan gasket, and fluid. This is my two cents worth.

You can jump 12 volts directly to the coil just for a second to check yes you can use an ohmmeter but just saying

Ya its says 195f thermostat I would put a 160f to be safe also missing the fan shroud makes a big difference make sure to put the air filter for dirt an it helps it run better love ur videos 😬

Definitely requires a 180 thermostat. The 195 deg. is what us old-timers called a winter thermostat and got installed every fall for better heater operation.

Hey Randy! Love the vids buddy. Thank you so much for putting the time and effort for our entertainment. I know YT does pay you, but still, thank you! I do have one question though: Will you bump the frames of the vids to 60 any time soon? I have a 144hz monitor and on these, if the video is below 60, it's all choppy. It's still very much watchable, don't get me wrong, but i'd love to see them in smooth 60 frames :). Stay safe out there buddy!

Thermostat I used was 180 on the old mopar. I would check the sending unit giving the age of the car. I would swap out the points for an electronic conversion. I remember my Dad cussing over gap and dwell of the points

Brought back old memories when you hit passing gear. Have you checked the timing?

Yeah man. In the winter cold the 195 would be great, but in the summer maybe a 160//165

I’d wail until the Points & Condenser arrives. Then fit them both & do the ignition Timing. Any problems after that, you can look into. 👍🏻 Edit: it’s got some power, for such a small carby!

Put an electronic dizzy in.. check your plug wires are in the right spot... Also plug gap...

Double check the firing order and trace each plug wire respectively and then put a timing light on it and set the timing. Definitely replace that points and condenser and if you didn't already, install a new rotor.

The good old 5.2L 318 CID V-8 and the Torque-Flite 727 3 speed automatic bullet proof

God bless the previous owner of this car to take great care of a 4 door Plymouth of all things. Sure it’s not a convertible or a hemi , but still a thing of beauty to a car guy.

@SpockvsMcCoy

3 жыл бұрын

This car was probably owned by an elderly driver and then passed onto a younger family member. The last family member to inherit it does not want to keep it or trades it in at a car dealership. Then the dealership sends it to auction. Few 1966 Plymouths made it through the 1970s and especially the 1980s.

Here's an old tip to see if you have any bad spark plug leads... wait until it's dark with no lighting, start the engine and look at all of the leads, if you see any light shooting along any of the leads, that means they are in need of replacing.

clean and lube the weights in the distributor and check for vacuum leaks

When you install he new points set the dwell angle and check the timing. Make sure you have the plug wires in the right firing order.

Specifications from a 1966 dodge service manual for 318 CI with automatic transmission. Thermostat 180 degrees Radiator cap 14 PSI Points .014" to .019" Dwell angle 28 deg. To 32 deg. Firing order 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 Timing, Without clean air package 10 deg. BTC With clean air package 5 deg. ATC Valve Lash (hot) Intake .013" Exhaust .021" Bore .391" Stroke 3.31" 9 to 1 compression (125 to 155 PSI)

Randy, when you want to focus on a close object, put your hand behind it. That will stop the camera from trying to focus on the background

And you are so correct laying in bed thinking about your engines is the best way to solve anything it's actually fun also

Check the timing and the thermostat I believe is 170 good luck randy keep up the good work

Looking at the plugs and not really the whole system, I would suspect that the plug wires might be causing the problems!!

Love to see the old girl brought back to life. Should sell it at an old car auction

Randy , try the timing.

@kaisanhworrell9386

3 жыл бұрын

That was my thinking also

I know this is an old video but timing can cause a car to run hotter than it should. Since you have been messing with the distributor, I bet the timing is off. Plus I do think your thermostat is too hot. I think a 180 would be better. She is a pretty car. Love that interior. It is in such great shape.

Looks like the two front plugs were fouled. From my experience with Mopars that is an indication of burnt valves or bad oil seals. I'm willing to bet burnt valves. Pull those two plugs see what they look like and do a leak down compression test should tell you a lot. Good luck.

Wooden golf tees are great for plugging fuel lines and fuel filter inlet and outlet so it doesn’t spill or spraying the engine bay.

Read the plugs put new ones in run it for a few then pull them out and see which ones on the ground strap are firing fully or half way not all cylinders fire the same some run hot some colder reading the plug will tell you alot

According o Google the correct temp thermostat is 160 degree. Sell the Fury, keep the coronet!

Hi i have the same car here in Sydney ozzy 1966 dodge phoenix basically the same car with a Small block 360 Little bit of rust but can't wait to get it Finnish