Thank you to the camera operator for holding the telephone horizontally, not screaming and not taking a picture of his shoes while the ship sank.

@hmjmh7

5 жыл бұрын

Yes very rare that

@tommypetraglia4688

5 жыл бұрын

Troll Is that all you have to offer is your ignorance and nothing else

@wcolby

5 жыл бұрын

Tommy Petraglia are you in the right thread?

@aus5405

5 жыл бұрын

Tommy Petraglia you okay fam?

@tellmesomething2go

5 жыл бұрын

Sometimes, there are miracles! I thought we were going to miss it. Was terrified. Goes to show you, what stupid, loser, dumbo`s are doing behind camera`s.

All four crewmembers survived.

@uhsepevaldez8470

5 жыл бұрын

R Leslie thank god it always turns my stomach whenever i hear a mayday over the radio or watch one of these videos cause i know 4 humans are in peril and helpless

@patrickmcleod111

5 жыл бұрын

**What are you thinking??? You are ruining the vibe of confusion and frustration essential to these videos by having the audacity to offer helpful follow-up information!** Now people WONT have to go and do all sorts of further digging and searching in a fruitless attempt at learning what the hell happened before, during and after the half minute of vague video. You sir, have partially cleared things up, and for that, you should be ashamed!

@patrickmcleod111

5 жыл бұрын

@Chris Wood I don't know any more than anyone else who watched this, AND I posted a comment that's right before yours, where I sarcastically criticized the complete lack of perspective and information pertaining to this tragedy. But it's possible that the original poster left his comment about all 4 crew members surviving, because he searched for additional information, but was misled by inaccurate online sources. For that reason, I don't think he necessarily deserves condemnation. There have been PLENTY of instances where I'll watch a video that ends in some sort of tragedy, but with little to no useful information as to what occured before or after the events in the video, I'll have to do some internet digging. Unfortunately, what may seem like a legitimate source for information involving the tragedy, may in fact end up being inaccurate. But assuming it's true, I'll post some of the info it in the messages under the original video. Later I'll be told that the info I posted wasn't 100% accurate. But it wasn't my fault, and all I was doing was trying to provide some useful closure info for other folks who watch the video later. So it's not like either I or the guy who posted that "all 4 crew members survived" were intentionally trying to mislead anyone. In fact, all I was doing was trying to be helpful. I would bet that's all that this guy was trying to do. He probably wasn't seeking to mislead viewers or disrespect the victims.

@83alpinab9

5 жыл бұрын

@Chris Wood I think your good friend was on another boat or Transportation safety board of Canada and the local newspaper "The Province" forgot to mention someone dying in this incident. A simple Google search relates no deaths with the tugboat North Arm Venture capsize. I did however see some sort of 4 legged critter fall down the man door just after 0:12 and cant imagine it survived. If your friend was crew member #5 then this would be truly a great conspiracy to investigate.

@83alpinab9

5 жыл бұрын

@Chris Wood Dont understand your enjoyment, but to each his/her own.... looking again it was not a 4 legged critter but a back-pack.

Stone cold camera man, robust diesel still turning, and pans back for wide establishing shot again.

@s0nnyburnett

3 жыл бұрын

Not the hero we deserve.

@deeplyclosetedindividual

3 жыл бұрын

Solid A+

@EATSLEEPDRIVE2002

3 жыл бұрын

theres another video that shows the props stopped after about 30 second. Its no surprise the engines kept running, either until they sucked in water or some safety system shut them down

Im no expert but I believe the propellers need to be in the water to have any effect

@tactical_sandwich_

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong. It was in airplane mode

@bolski-uitlaatstore9130

3 жыл бұрын

Never seen a hovercraft?

@Texas240

3 жыл бұрын

Not if your in the swamps... Airboat!

@joebloe1401

3 жыл бұрын

UR A MORON!!

@Jan_Heckmann

3 жыл бұрын

@@joebloe1401 Good choise! Simply shoud at random Peoples in the Comment- Section!

Glad to hear there was no fatalities, but I noticed not one of the crewmen had a PFD on.

that happened to us while pulling a barge, we got hit head on from incoming vessel at the mouth of a river, we turned left and it hit the barge we were pulling and our Tug boat got pulled until we were ninety degrees leaning and luckily the tow rope broke and we came right back up because the engine is huge

I want to know what antifoul bottom paint they use - that’s the cleanest Hull I’ve ever seen!

@pineholo

3 жыл бұрын

the clean it every time they capsize lol

@kevaughnlindo545

3 жыл бұрын

@@pineholo 😂😂😂😂

@CP200S

3 жыл бұрын

They have just painted it, full boat restoration finished yesterday.

@Jack-tx2ve

3 жыл бұрын

Someone forgot to put the ballast back.

@craftpaint1644

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking same, damn that was a great looking tugboat. They let it get hulled on clear sunny day of all things.

Shout out to those diesels, keep on keeping on!

@19Tharg76

4 жыл бұрын

@Vend Master I do! I laughed out loud at Jason's comment :D

4 жыл бұрын

@Vend Master i do, you don't get it

@martinmcfred6758

3 жыл бұрын

@Vend Master me to. Why bother commenting, just move on . Like I should have done.

@paulthorwesten7377

3 жыл бұрын

The intake is usually inside the machine room itself. It takes some time until the oxygen is depleted.

@blakem9109

3 жыл бұрын

@Vend Master I care, it went from tug boat to air boat.

Very glad all on board survived to work another day.

@hugolafhugolaf

3 жыл бұрын

@Anzu Wyliei Perhaps they claimed PTSD and went on workers' comp. BC is a very socialist province.

@craftpaint1644

3 жыл бұрын

That wasn't work.

As an experienced and qualified youtube commenter I can indeed say that did not go as planned, and the problem is the boat went upside down.

@NathanChisholm041

3 жыл бұрын

Can confirm

@deanlawson6880

6 ай бұрын

Yeah - Second that! @@NathanChisholm041

I tow boated a few years on the Fraser River and the gulf. What would have possibly saved the tug in this situation is releasing (blowing) the hydraulic valve governing the brake on the winch drum allowing the tow line to run out. This would dump energy/momentum, and allow the skipper time to position the tug to gently come up on the tow line, and then increase power to keep steerage rather than being broadsided by a runaway force. I can't say with certainty this would have saved the tug. Who knows what the tide, currents, equipment failures, etc., were involved here. I only mention this maneuver for those who have never tow-boated. I learned this saying many years ago from my father, a fisherman: "It's a good day when everybody goes home."

@holmes1956O

5 жыл бұрын

Randy Brady I concur completely I would rather ground the barg than lose the boat and possibly the lives of the crew. Bad skipper

@blcouch

5 жыл бұрын

Keeping the watertight doors closed would have helped somewhat. About one boat per year is lost on the LMR due to watertight doors being left open and the vessel taking a hard list due to turning into the current.

@josephastier7421

5 жыл бұрын

Yep. "Letting go of the rope", so to speak.

@josephastier7421

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrJimboson Absolutely. The emergency hatchet is there for a reason.

@brucesannino6181

5 жыл бұрын

Jim M is right, in the "trade" the phrase is tripped. The wire crossed the tug and the tow hitch pulled her over. Very common towing accident. Most cable tow boats have a series of sockets, (holes) around the gunnel at the stern. Big hefty pipes are dropped in these sockets to keep the wire from getting athwart ships. Unlikely a current alone could have rolled over. Some one made a mistake, took a short cut, skipped a step or was working above their pay grade. Happens all the time. Whether you're the wiper or the master some simple arithmetic is absolutely essential. You have to return your ship the dock exactly the same number of times you left the dock.

In memory of my uncle Dick, a Chief Engineer for the Red Star Line towing company. I do not remember the name of his last vessel, the one in this anecdote, but his berth before that was as Chief Engineer on the Saratoga, same company. Tossed into the East River, NYC one frigid winter night when the tow sank and stood his tug on its beam ends. The helmsman took a hard knock to the head that dazed him. Incredibly, the tow line parted or was released, the vessel righted itself, and steamed on leaving my uncle behind in the icy drink. Lucky for us all, the helmsman cut through the fog and throttled down and Dick was rescued. Later, he told me how he and some of the crew had gone ashore earlier for dinner that night, and that was why he couldn’t kick off his shoes, which he normally left loose and untied while aboard.

@leehaelters6182

8 ай бұрын

@@JackFromWyoming, could you explain a little what you are talking about, please? I am not following it. as a response to the story about my Uncle Dick Seeley.

Oh dear. Someone screwed that up. An expensive day at the office. Glad all survived.

@briane173

3 жыл бұрын

"Welp -- that's the end of _this_ shirt...

I'll just bet this was Relic's fault. And to those who get this reference, you're old just like me.

@krissfemmpaws1029

3 жыл бұрын

Yes in deed I understand the reference to Relic... and I'm not Canadian... I enjoyed Beachcombers as a kid. We had better Canadian television reception then we did American. The fun of growing up in Blaine Washington in the 60s and 70s.

@Itsme-mx5tl

3 жыл бұрын

It was Trumps fault said Nancy

@4cooey

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully Nick and Jessie can get salvage rights and pull it up with the Persephone

@iseesea6517

3 жыл бұрын

I worked in log salvage for a few years off the north end of Vancouver island. The guy I worked for made relic look civilized! That clip is scary. Prolly started with some dumb mistake... maybe they played the tides wrong on got stuck in in a wicked currant or something

@morticiaaddams7866

3 жыл бұрын

@@krissfemmpaws1029 I grew up on CBC too. Port Angeles, WA

Sechelt Rapids has a very tight window to be used for ANY boat movement. There's a cement operation there running 24/7 on the non-road north side. I used to rent the fourth cabin on the north road side from a buddy. When the rapids start to run you do NOT have time to react; looks like the barge made that decision and it's all over fast.

My grandfather died on a foss boat a long time ago in BC. Lawrence Berg. RIP. It's amazing to me that my great grandfather was one of the founder's of this awesome company.

I've just seen this video for the first time, and I'm shocked at how quickly this incident happened. Beautiful day, swiftly flowing but calm water, what could possibly go wrong? Well, that was my first impression, but it appears that everything can go wrong!

Tugboats are both heavy & powerful. When under load they set very deep in the water. Their power, when delivered at certain angles...can capsize the craft easily. This is a kind of physics a tug captain always keeps in mind. Working on the water this way might be well paid...but it is frikken' dangerous.

@ianrutherford878

5 жыл бұрын

Really?Dangerous you say?How?

@douglasmachawk7436

10 ай бұрын

Not paid enough to make it worth dying for.😖

I have a friend who skippered for Westcoast Tug and Barge. The tow overtook them one night somewhere in Georgia Strait. They managed to swim ashore and spent a very cold and wet night on the beach. That was with the tow line out. Vigilance is everything. The tug was dangling from the tow line.

Findings as to causes and contributing factors The transit through Sechelt Rapids began prior to slack tide and, as a result, the barge came under the influence of the ebb tide, causing it to shear to starboard. The attempt to regain control of the barge was unsuccessful due to an insufficient reserve of power on the tug. The North Arm Venture capsized when the shortened towline pivoted athwartships; its force, then acting transversely, rapidly overcame the tug's righting ability. The absence of procedures or guidelines on girding left the master without important information to aid in his decision-making.

@12345fowler

2 жыл бұрын

How can you even be in a master position and not knowing the "girding" issues and how to get out of them, presto ? Even a rookie glider student pilot knows how to seperate from the tow cable in case of problems. It is literally his first lesson.

please note that none of the float free life saving apparatus appear to come free, most notably the inflatable life rafts. Previously tugs were not required to secure their float free inflatable life rafts with hydrostatic release. How quickly they capsize they trap their rafts in their cradles before the hydrostatics can release them.

Glad everyone survived. Good to see the engines can run upside down. :)

@EATSLEEPDRIVE2002

3 жыл бұрын

any engine will run upside down...just not for very long haha

Legend has it those diesels are still running.

@joebloe1401

3 жыл бұрын

U MORON

@EATSLEEPDRIVE2002

3 жыл бұрын

nahh, there’s another video that shows the props stopped after about 30 seconds. either some safety system shut them down or they sucked in water and drowned. sad part is they were Detroit 2-strokes too😭but the boat was repaired

Superb camera work.well done sir.

Old Skukum Chuck Narrows up by Edgemont (Sunshine Coast) where (depending on tides) you can get some wicked currents when the Porpoise Bay empties into the sea and drops off a shelf ... the eddies and tidal currents there are nasty and should be avoided

Gotta hand to the captain (?) for going down with the ship in such an heroic manner.

I've had a close call with this once. This happens if you try to "hip up" while the barge is moving too fast, and it overtakes you.

Where are ya lifejackets lads.

@tristesskartoffel8677

3 жыл бұрын

In this case its much more Dangerous with a lifejacket.

@Primalxbeast

3 жыл бұрын

@@tristesskartoffel8677 That's what I was thinking. The guy who fell in the door would have had to swim down to get back out.

Let the speculating begin... I heard everyone stood on one side of the boat and down it went.

@operator0

3 жыл бұрын

I heard the same thing is going to happen to Guam. The military keeps putting more and more troops on that island and it's going to tip over any day now.

Skookumchuck Narrows, water changes direction with the tide. Very dangerous and sudden when it shifts, 16 knot currents, whirlpools, up to 9ft difference in water depth from either end of the narrows. These guys tried to hit it at low tide slack but sometimes the predicted time is off .

It appeared as though the tug was tied off far too close to the load. It also looked like the current was ripping.

@pauldailey4477

3 жыл бұрын

And some other stuff too. It was a massive f´ck up. I´d say there were some major variables out of spec involved...and I´d blame the captain.

@laughtoohard9655

3 жыл бұрын

@@pauldailey4477 I agree and the Captain is always responsible for his load and the people on board.

@o3941

3 жыл бұрын

@@pauldailey4477 I just finished reading the Invesitgation Report (IR). In it, they found the Master more or less blameless. Despite his years "at sea" he had never encountered this, nor did the company that operated the tug have guidelines/policy on how to handle a scenario like the Master encountered in the video.

@MrLeoYaus

3 жыл бұрын

@@o3941 Investigator justice

@Alex-uy7pc

3 жыл бұрын

@@o3941 what was the scenario?

My father and his crew lost their lives on The Gulfmaster tug. Glad to see that everyone was ok here.

That tugboat crew has met the basic criteria for a bad day!

That’s turtling, my dude!

Whew....Way to short a wire, that's for sure. I was mate on a Foss tug towing a ramp barge pretty much like this one, through Peril Straits in AK, we had shortened up to go through the Narrows (If one of the three bouys is towed under by the current, best turn donuts and wait for slack) though not nearly this short. On the way through the Narrows, the barge caught up with us and was doing it's best to pass.....the Capt. went to full bell right about then to keep in front, but for a bit there, we could see how we were doing without looking behind the tug. It'll get yer heart rate up a bit, A bit different from the ship work I was more familiar with.

So the diesels will run upsidedown, good to know

@EATSLEEPDRIVE2002

3 жыл бұрын

any engine will run for a bit upside down, until it seizes up from no oil circulation. Or with a carbureted engine, the carb will probably stop delivering fuel before that.

And that last guy was like “I’m going to jump ship now”.

@poulletkavuvi2227

3 жыл бұрын

He thought it was a dream, until he found that only his head was left above the water.

@sw6188

3 жыл бұрын

He was probably thinking that.

Kindly refer to the following perfect hindsight:

Excellent photography!

Is this a tug boat drivers worst nightmare? One minute you're pulling a load, the next minute you're treading water beside it.

Classic case on being in Irons. Loaded barge on a short wire can go wrong very quickly. Best to take brake off and let wire payout until you can stabilize situation. Glad everyone was ok.

my only geuss is they had a line on the stern of the tug to try and pull the bow in from mid ship, and the current was ripping so as soon as that barge came off the throttle the current fucking whipped their ass around. I know the water looks calm but even a 2 knot current broad side will slap the shit out of you.

As a boat and yacht construction person and a lifetime of fishing and boating experience off of Mexico and northern California I can clearly assess by this video that these people were not up to date with their vessel

@louisliu5638

Жыл бұрын

looked like kids to me. and there's in the water with college duds on. that Sechelt Rapids. surprised they even survived.

@smudgey1kenobey

10 ай бұрын

Read the report!

As someone with absolutely no expertize in this situation at all can surmise that someone fucked up.

Tugboats. Designed to have just enough boat to house the engines without sinking. It appears this boat had a little too much engine or a little too little boat to float.

I know this is a bit of a pisser for those concerned, but it couldn't have happened in a nicer setting, stunning views !!

That'll buff right out!😁👍😎

Dammit Carl!!

One of the tug crew interviewed remarked, "well, this certainly sucks."

A blue ribbon panel of highly-paid government bureaucrats will be convened to determine what, if anything, went wrong. Their draft report should be ready in two or three years.

I'm glad the guys made it off the boat.

Someone wasn’t using their safety stop switch lanyard

The guy steering back at the stern is going " What am I hearing?"

I don't think they are suppose to be upside down like that...

Went down quicker than a brides nightie.

We're going to need a bigger boat

Looks like the current took the barge for a ride and the boat wasn't in a good position to take the ride with it. Kind of like the tail wagging the dog.

@jimlane2961

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Thanks you Answered my Question

@PeterPatterson-vt2cx

3 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

That was cool how it transformed into a hovercraft...

@joebloe1401

3 жыл бұрын

U MORON

@theravedaddy

3 жыл бұрын

@@joebloe1401 really deep in depth comment there, you must have had at least 3 attempts to get that right... no wait! Its "you"....you moron.

holly shit 2 guys went under ship, and one who got out from inside boat just in time than water rushes in

This is called "tripping" and it happens! Fast!

@chrisn365

7 жыл бұрын

copperheadmarine lame

@stevecarlisle3323

3 жыл бұрын

And I thought it was called (girdled).

@LarJgrip

3 жыл бұрын

Girding.

From tugboat to airboat, in one flip.

Why was it jackknifed like that and so close to the barge?

Wow. A tugboat that converts to a hovercraft!

By not wearing Life Jackets whilst working on deck, the Crew stack the odds against themselves. Even if knocked unconscious a Life Jacket will keep the casualty's head clear of the water - but only if the person is wearing it! Likewise, by not securing watertight hatches and doors whilst underway the crew severely reduces the vessel's ability to right itself and ensures that it floods much faster! Complacency about the wearing of Life Jackets and the securing of all watertight hatches and doors whilst underway could have been fatal, thankfully there was only vessel and equipment damage, all of which is replaceable, albeit at some cost! This video makes for an excellent safety training aid.

Surprised how long the props spun. Engines running upside down.

You don't know how long I tried to find this video

@davidmihevc3990

3 жыл бұрын

Popped up in my recommended, not sure why but is interesting. Watched the one after it and learned about girting. Learn something new every day I guess. So does anyone know if they retrieved the tug, or is it still on the bottom?

Hope no one died. That looked terrifyingly dangerous

Looks like maybe too much forward momentum on the tow, and too much slack in the tow line. Helps to have another tug on the stern to use a little braking action. Tight maneuvers like that can obviously be dangerous. Glad the crew was saved.

So the propeller still going would scare the shit out of me I wonder if they could hear the blades moving

the ship must have an emergency dump of the tug

Glad to hear the crew survived. Bummer the barge blocked the view

We’re there ever any reports on how this turned out later? What happened to the barge? To the tug? I’m glad the people were all able to save themselves. I’m just curious about the rest.

@Zarrx

3 жыл бұрын

whole ass report in the description: www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/marine/2009/m09w0141/m09w0141.html

This looks like the tug was capsized by being pulled by the barge it was meant to be assisting?

Man overboard 1: What rotten luck. Man overboard 2: Could be worst. Man overboard 1: How could it possibly be worst? Man overboard 2: Could be sharks.

Tripped by the tow

Damn.... happened so quickly that the engines were still running upside down!! Wonder if eventually hydrolocked ? Glad all the crew made it through that scary ordeal though!

@stinger1982

3 жыл бұрын

The report’s language is vague but I think the motors were write off’s based on the following quote from the report. “Damage The vessel suffered no hull or structural damage. However, electronic navigation equipment, wiring, and engineering machinery were damaged beyond repair.”

@EATSLEEPDRIVE2002

3 жыл бұрын

@@stinger1982 yeah, i was wondering if “engineering equipment” meant engines or not. From the little I know, ships have lots of safety systems to shut down the engines quickly when it hits the fan

@JFrazer4303

2 жыл бұрын

If nothing else, lack of oil in the engine sump, and available to the pumps, would cause trouble, but fuel starvation should stop them when the injector pumps run dry.

Let's go through the Narrows it's rough through there big ships have went down

Quitte incredible that her PS engine remained running. Should have stopped automatically because of too low lub oil pressure

Бля, жалко! Хороший корабль был!

@Mihalysh

3 жыл бұрын

Хрен с ним,с кораблём,что с людьми стало,вода видимо холодная,так как горы кругом

I saw that one coming when I first saw the full video of it happening. Someone was going to fast and when things got out of hand didn't pay out cable to give himself room. I also know the waters where this happened

@chrisn365

7 жыл бұрын

Kriss Femmpaws professional right

Could anybody read the name of that tug, the orange and white colors are Dunlap towing colors Foss Maritime are green and white I work for both companies but I could not get the name it was too blurry to read

Why are they rigged to the stern? I have done barge moves related to marine construction & rarely would see a tug/barge set up like this.Maybe there is more to this incident not shown in the video?

How many KZread boater will have their precision inputs

"In this occurrence, although the tug master had several decades of experience, he lacked direction from the company in the form of procedures to deal with girding. He, therefore, had to analyze the situation as it was unfolding and choose an immediate course of action based on his own experience, which had never involved aborting a tow. By electing not to abort, he selected the option that allowed him the possibility of quickly regaining control of the tow, even though the severity of the possible consequences-girding and capsizing-were significantly greater than opting to abort. In the absence of procedures or guidelines, the master lacked important information that could have helped him decide how to respond to the girding situation."

This happends when the stability is like a bathtube...

Not a single one wearing a life jacket, major safety violation

Turned turtle,and the engines are still running!

Ужас! Все хоть живы остались???!

Huh....it transformed into a swamp boat. Pretty rad!

The problem with being 90% engine and 10% float.

3rd person barely got out.

That shouldn't have happened. You never power out of a gurt, it will continue to dig in and the end result is capsize.

Incompetence of everyone involved, as static considerations were allowed to exceed beyond normal working limits resulting in the centres of boyancy and gravity departing from stability envelopes. Speaking as a harpist, of course.

@morticiaaddams7866

3 жыл бұрын

As a Bassist, I agree!

@andyharpist2938

3 жыл бұрын

@@morticiaaddams7866 Come over and fly my plane Morticia. I think you will bring something new to the dull business of it all.

буксир короткий был или зацепился за что то? неужели нельзя было буксир отдать?

Respect the tide on the B.C. coast !!!!

What happens when you pull a barge through rapids. And it happens rapidly.

I wonder what the guy was thinking staying in a sinking tugboat instead of jumping ?

That was fast.

I think they were inspecting the hull to check for barnacles.... ;-)

I didn't think this was possible.