Tuba vs Contrabass Trombone - Gabriel's Oboe
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In this video I compare the Bb Tuba (Besson Sovereign BE994) with a Contrabass Trombone. I play a few scales, an excerpt from Gabriel's Oboe, and then empty my slide. How thrilling.
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And then, you dropped the bass...
@mlefeb
7 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@crushingrocks
7 жыл бұрын
w
@isetta4083
5 жыл бұрын
too soon
@jakesizer6483
4 жыл бұрын
F
@maxleavemealone5649
4 жыл бұрын
Hyperoctosubcontrabassoon ok...
RIP Contrabass Trombone. You will be missed.
@gentiletenero7751
6 жыл бұрын
John Stephenson Even the tuba is gone .. Together with the trombone ... We will miss them both .. Rest in peace
@Aduysvmncmkouyf
2 жыл бұрын
@@gentiletenero7751 no low brass besides euphonium
@RammerSTi
2 жыл бұрын
The contrabass trombone was repaired.
@LordComradeAnarchoCapitalus
2 жыл бұрын
@@Aduysvmncmkouyf Euphonium is now the only brass instrument at all... :(
@Aduysvmncmkouyf
2 жыл бұрын
@@LordComradeAnarchoCapitalus LMAO
Good last video for the contrabass trombone.
@yizharamir5915
7 жыл бұрын
RIP
@destiny6027
7 жыл бұрын
rip contrabass trombone, you were useless anyway
@matt_b.84
6 жыл бұрын
wwemario12345 i
@LolLol-wk3js
6 жыл бұрын
Not really He said he will get it fixed
@Zenix_Drache
6 жыл бұрын
Amen
Rest in peace cb trombone
@shiningarmor2838
6 жыл бұрын
I read that as "C-flat" at first and I was going to be really mad at you for that
@MultiEpicGamingTime
6 жыл бұрын
Lol same here
@MissionCow1
6 жыл бұрын
Shining Armor same
@Sasha-sd8ne
6 жыл бұрын
FMondragon rip cb/scb t-bone
@asston712
4 жыл бұрын
Cbb
You could make a brass band made entirely of trombones and it could cover the playing ranges of all of the instruments you would normally have in a band
@timothytikker1147
4 ай бұрын
The Moravian Church's traditional music makes use of trombone choirs, which I understand range from bass to soprano.
I never knew that you could play the contra bass trombone with a tuba mouthpiece that's so good! Now I can play it in jazz band.
@BigDogCountry
4 жыл бұрын
My 79 Holton Double Trigger Bass Trombone used the very smallest of Tuba Mouthpieces (Eb)
Nice to see videos like these. I'm a composer and I am curious about how certain instruments like the contrabass trombone sound on their own. It reminds me of the time I attended a live performance of Schoenberg's Gurrelieder in the 1970's and the sight of the brass section alone was stunning. 10 horns (4 doubling on Wagner tubas), 6 trumpets, bass trumpet, alto trombone, 4 tenor-bass trombones, bass trombone, contrabass trombone, contrabass tuba. And the chord at the end of Part I -- wow what a sound.
@StonesGames8146
Жыл бұрын
I am 12 yo and i am also a composer + i play piano, drums and a flugelhorn and I have the perfect pitch talent
@mooron394
Жыл бұрын
@@StonesGames8146 yeah so
Contrabass will be missed
@spoilerzado
7 жыл бұрын
i think is other contrabass trombone
@skylerhester6220
7 жыл бұрын
it's the same one, the accident happened right after this video
@spoilerzado
6 жыл бұрын
SgZ Vapor lol
@SammyBoe
5 жыл бұрын
He got it fixed
@oliverdiamond6594
Жыл бұрын
@@skylerhester6220 then why did he record it happening?
I much prefer the tuba, but I think in particular pieces the contrabass trombone would be better. The tuba can make a really clean, soft, rich sound, but can also be a fun instrument, like in a polka. The trombone however seems to make a less clean sound, sort of in between a tuba and a contrabass bassoon. Therefore I think in certain pieces that could be very very cool. Nevertheless, they both are beautiful instruments; gotta love contrabass...
@Aduysvmncmkouyf
Жыл бұрын
I think in the low register the tuba sounds a bit more dirtier
@The_Samurai_Emperor
7 ай бұрын
*contrabassoon not contra bass bassoon
@mason11198
7 ай бұрын
This was five years ago lol give some credit to a random 15 year old kid@@The_Samurai_Emperor
You playing the contrabass hurts my throat, as it makes me feel as if I was going an octave too low on my baritone
@rosamei5325
7 жыл бұрын
i can play an octave lower on euphonium with ease
@sage9938
7 жыл бұрын
Cory Hatcher yaaaaaaaas euphs and baris unite!
@zache197
6 жыл бұрын
Really? It made me feel as if I was playing an octave to high on my baritone
@rufinomedado3184
6 жыл бұрын
Low Brass Class, UNITE!!!
@ChoppedCarrots1
6 жыл бұрын
I'm just chillin here with my trumpet
I love those low notes, they really give a warm feeling!!
finaly you hold both instruments safely
@andymayeuxproductions
7 жыл бұрын
it's an old video
@nerdwords1607
5 жыл бұрын
EchoSpark 267 yes
His tuba vibrato is very very satisfying coming from a tuba player
I thought you did a masterful job of playing that piece on those two monstrous instruments - You have a most amazing and versatile embouchure playing the entire range of brass instruments as nicely as you do. Thanks for all your informative and enjoyable videos. Keep up the great work!
The trombone is a little farty - the small bore probably does it.
@doniedodo5690
7 жыл бұрын
LOL!!!!! FARTS!
@JackalSniperSnipez
5 жыл бұрын
This is just immature, do you even play in a band?
@MaestroTJS
4 жыл бұрын
All brass sound like a bunch of farts, honestly. But then, that's really all that's happening anyway.
@loganr7108
4 жыл бұрын
Jackalsnipahz vonvonseven immature but true
@Qermaq
3 жыл бұрын
In the hands of a pro, it's a lot more heroic and pointy.
That tuba is beautiful.
@owensmith7530
3 жыл бұрын
It's rare to see a silver plated one these days, because lacquered is a) cheaper and b) many people think they sound better. I don't agree, the lacquered ones are too bright sounding for my taste.
@johnheywoodtrombone
2 жыл бұрын
Sovereign instruments are beautiful, sound n appearance. Much as I love my 4 year old Chinese made Wessex bass bone my 30 years old Sovereign tenor is still a toy of beauty!
The quality of the videos are skyrocketing! Fantastic job!
i'm a saxophonist and this looks so hard
@mr_beezlebub3985
7 жыл бұрын
I'm also a saxophonist, and I agree with you
@yizharamir5915
7 жыл бұрын
high five saxophonists club!
@Saxplayer_11
7 жыл бұрын
Woo hoo!!! Saxophones!!!!
@jlshao
7 жыл бұрын
I dont belong here I play the clarinet
@toastboy6484
7 жыл бұрын
As a trombonist I find your instrument hard
I played Bb tuba once and was wowed with its majesty
Completely aside from sound issues, that tuba is a gorgeous instrument. I'd like to have one if it was just to look at. Makes me want to clean up that old Eb tuba in my garage.
One of my favorite videos even 8 years later
On mobile the low sounds get lost. (Without headphones that is) then the warmth of the tuba wins big time over the farty sound of the trombone. I think in order for the tuba to really excel, you need to play fnugg.
@frittatasTV
5 жыл бұрын
Or you just use some god damn headphones
@veilleux931
5 жыл бұрын
Fnugg is frikin incredible
@TheodoreBrown314
5 жыл бұрын
?
@nyksfunhouse3835
4 жыл бұрын
Willem Kossen it really has more to do with the experience of the player I have heard tubas that sounds like bass trombones trombones that sound like tubas. It’s really all about the ability of the player above all and Trent was clearly more talented with the tuba in this case
Drops Tuba at end * XD
@TrentHamilton
7 жыл бұрын
I'd be in serious trouble if I dropped a $20k tuba.
@gflgaming8003
7 жыл бұрын
those compensating tubas suck to hold... so heavy
@unknownuser3373
7 жыл бұрын
talk about drop the bass
@stubbsie1015
7 жыл бұрын
Nah, you'll be all good, tuba are a special breed of players. unless you are my music teacher you can play every single brass instrument known to man. And can you answe this plz. My Question. What is the big big instrument that you see in marching band the the players is in the middle of the instrument, the one with the massive bell. i forget what its called.
@stubbsie1015
7 жыл бұрын
Nermind its a sousaphone. Can you play a suosaphone?
the tube was more of a constant sound, the trombone's sound was like it was pulsing kinda. I play the basic starter trombone and its flute's higher then that Contrabass trombone.
I love The Mission soundtrack - so glad to see Gabriel's Oboe being played!
I like the tone of the tuba a lot better, but all instruments serve their own purpose in the orchestra.
That's an interesting valve placement on that particular tuba! The ones I've seen have a valves usually on the side and not on top like that
@mrpickle6290
7 жыл бұрын
Their right-handed. Valves on the side are for left-handed players. Both variations are common, so I'm surprised you haven't encountered one before.
@Jack-ot9vq
3 жыл бұрын
@@mrpickle6290 yea no..? Both are for right handed players
just listening to this is making me lightheaded.
Bravo, Trent Hamilton. I was looking for confirmation that tuba and contrabass trombone (and cimbasso) have the same range, and you confirmed it. All lovers of super deep brass thunder should listen to "The Rains of Castamere". It's on Utube. Features over 40 top rate professionals from NYC: trombones, bass trombones, contrabass trombones, and tubas. It took five years to assemble the group for the recording, which may have only been possible in NY. OMG!
Not gonna lie that is the most beautiful tuba sound I’ve ever heard!
come on, I can hit that most of those notes on tuba, in the octave! jk, that sounded beautiful and I know you would curb-stomp me in any brass battle.
I"d say your pretty good playing that song with the tuba. you were making my kenwood subwoofer vibrate what ever was on top.
Tuba for life
Yet adore that tone in the contrabass \m/ even in the lowest of notes !
sounds very beautiful on both instruments ! also bass clef SLAYYYY
@olivergreenwood2210
Жыл бұрын
Middle school band 💀💀💀💀💀
@phoebe3127
Жыл бұрын
@@olivergreenwood2210 bruh
@udexity2090
Жыл бұрын
middle school band 💀
Gabriel' oboe was played down the octave right? Either way, great playing.
I like the BBb subcontrabass trombone because of how it sounds.
I play tuba and that was amazing, and I definitely want to play that song
I must say, I didn't realize a tuba could play a G above the staff
@loudplanetlive5080
7 жыл бұрын
A good player will have four to six octaves.
@gametheus1306
7 жыл бұрын
You should see the cadenza of the Vaughan Williams Concerto prelude, I'm having serious trouble getting the Ab above the staff that most players elect to play XD
@MaxRamos8
7 жыл бұрын
irishfox94 when i was in high school playing tuba my band director handed me a trombone 1 sheet music and i was like how do i play a ledger line g above the staff and he said just try your best. ohh so many wierd noises came out that day. at least i could play it
@kevinsolis7862
6 жыл бұрын
It’s possible to play it just takes time to learn how to. And it sounds like he did it an octave down. But the g is totally in range of a good player.
@nonviablemoon3721
6 жыл бұрын
No matter what brass instrument you can play really high for the deep brass it’s weird sounding though and difficult
Hello Trent! Could you make in the future a Contrabass trombone - Cimbasso comparsion? It could be interesting to hear the difference between the wagnerian and the verdian low-brass instrument!
IT HAS RETURNED!!
parabens otimo trabalho
I want to see you try the Yamaha YBB-102 tuba because it is designed differently from common tubas.
Trent: I'm not good at this Me: well this is going to sound like a fart Trent: plays well Me: 😱
Your trombone is still alive
I must say your tone quality on the tuba is still quite nice. I recall you saying you prefer the Eb bass over the Bb but I don't think I can recall what you're main instrument is. What do you normally play in a brass band or whatever ensemble you would happen to play in?
@TrentHamilton
7 жыл бұрын
Currently I conduct a brass band, but my main instruments are trombone (preferably bass trombone) and euphonium.
@SamuelPlaysBrass
7 жыл бұрын
What in the world were you doing playing solo cornet, then, Trent? ;)
@TrentHamilton
7 жыл бұрын
Before I started conducting I was playing solo cornet. Before that I was playing Eupho
@rosamei5325
7 жыл бұрын
isnt euph amazing
@clockWorks10
7 жыл бұрын
Trent Hamilton You mean euphomum?
Very Cool. Nice juxtaposition.
+trenthamilton what website did you get the contrabass trombone from
Have you ever had an E flat tuba? Does it sound like a euphonium or tuba? I'm a brass instrument player and wonder how you can keep a good lip on a trumpet and trombone.
@TrentHamilton
7 жыл бұрын
Yes - check out some of my other videos.
Also both names derived from the word trumpet. Tuba is latin for trumpet, and Trombone literally means "large trumpet" in Italian.
Mr. Hamilton, may I ask where you got that excerpt? I can't seem to find a proper bass clef part for it.
I may be a student with a trombone but always hold it with the slide closed and holding it firmly with both slide braces
I like the aggressive tone of the contrabass trombone.
I know that Roger Bobo had Miraphone make him a contra-bass trombone when he was playing in the L. A. Brass. He felt that in some of the music the trombone tone worked better with the trumpets and the tenor trombone. The tuba worked better in combination with groups that included the horn and the euphonium.
Key signature!!!!!!!! With that tuba!!!!!!!
Were the lower notes on the contrabass trombone sharp because the slide doesn't compensate
@derekdouglas6147
7 жыл бұрын
I think, on the low C scale at least, he didn't support the lowest note going down. He was probably about to pass out, notes that low suck.
@alexburton4113
7 жыл бұрын
I think it was because it was a Chinese made trombone that doesn't have that much care put into making it
@Xzyum00
5 жыл бұрын
With the F attachment engaged each position has to be pulled out a little further (besides first position) in order to stay in tune. That tuba has a compensating valve system so it does it for him but since he didn't compensate himself with the trombone the notes were sharp.
From the scales, I deduced that the tuba was cleaner overall, but the contra bone was cleaner on the lower end
Please tell me how you got those hight tuba notes out I am having trouble with a high Bb right above the staff
@ventarmadness9692
6 жыл бұрын
Jjenniferjade I know I'm a year late but long tones and slowly make your way up
@thattubaguy996
6 жыл бұрын
When I saw those notes I refused to believe that a tuba could go that high
Thank you!
You should do a video on a comparison between a sousaphone and a helicon!
I was dieing with laughter when "A comparison between this the Bb Contrabass Trombone- AAAUURRHHHHH and this the upside down Bb Tuba
Little did he know. The wild Contrabass trombone would leap away......
The tuba was amazing
I have a tuba for marching band where it's a concert tuba but if u change the main slide and put in a marching attachment it becomes a contra-like marching tuba but I don't know what to call it. any knowledge?
@MrShadowbquick
5 жыл бұрын
That's a Convertible Tuba :)
I cry every time
One of my most important instrumentation lessons occurred when I heard a student performance of Edgard Varèse's _Intégrales_, in which a tuba was substituted for the contrabass trombone. I was very familiar with the work, and so was quite alarmed at how the tuba didn't fit in at all. It wasn't just a question of the tuba being incapable of the trombone's slide glissandi so dear to Varèse. It was mostly in how dull, fat and unblending the tuba sounded in that context, and wound up sticking out like a sore thumb. Now, I don't at all mean this as a rejection of the tuba as an instrument. It is a beautiful and worthy instrument in its right. It just has a very particular -- and weighty -- role to play, which is very different from that of the contrabass trombone.
I'm not sure of others' experiences, but the music at 2:16 is written for trombone/baritone b.c. B-flat tuba music is written an octave lower. Some of those notes, as written, would require either a humming bird passing gas into the mouthpiece or your name is Dr. Charles Daellenbach. Also, as others have intimated, don't "Dizzy Gilespie" on the mouthpiece. Can do a lot of damage to your facial and neck muscles. Also, I played 3 years with a CB trombone mouthpiece for both sousaphone and tuba and I loved it so much better than the standard tuba mouthpiece.
The tuba sets the base upon which all the other instruments sit. Ya gotta love a tuba.
Gabriel's oboe sounds so much better from the tuba the tuba sounds so beautiful playing high notes
That's a huge bell for the trombone
Still want to see the reed trombone - and trumpet - with various mutes, especially harmon with stem...
Hey Trent I know that you have reviewed the tromba plastic trombone but I was wonder if you could review the tiger plastic trombone? This plastic trombone is a large bore w/f attachment
@TrentHamilton
7 жыл бұрын
I'd like to get it at some point to review.
This song is in my marching show
Dose he take these both down the octave it kinda sounds like it?
The song played was made in memory of a Salvation Army bandsman and military guard who lost in a fatal car crash on his way to rehearsal
Yes!!!
Im playing gabriels oboe for marching band. It would be fun to play this on trombone over the sax solo
On 4 valve tuba the correct fingerings for pedal D is 234 and for pedal C 1234.
you play Nice i have one question as usual is the Bb Tuba the same as the susaphone or what is the difference exsept for the design
@Leo-vr3bg
7 жыл бұрын
It has a different sound and a bit different embouchure, but other than that fingerings are the same.
My favorite brass instrument is the trombone. I like how it's played. But hated playing it back in middle school band. I was no good.
What software do you use for multi-tracking?
Will you ever get another contrabass trombone
A farewell salute to the Contrabass Trombone.
Trumpet or cornet for jazz?
Who else watching after the trombone's revival
I like how he called the tuba "this thing" and "that" and called the trombone by its name.
So this may be a really dumb question but is a tenor trombone mouthpiece the same size as a regular bass trombone mouthpiece?
@nickzakos271
7 жыл бұрын
That_one_guy602 For a good tone, you generally use a larger mouthpiece. The bass one is not nearly as large as a tuba mouthpiece, but it's larger nonetheless.
What is your first instrument or the one you feel plays the easiest for you
Can you make a video showing us a plastic tuba?
I wonder what happens next...
Trent where would a bass trombone be in range and notes compared to a tuba?
I prefer Tuba. But I enjoy both.
I thought you did really well on the Bb bass Tuba more than the Trombone to be honest. I haven't tried to blow a Bb but I play an Eb Tuba and I am a grade 5. Apparently it's more difficult to play the Bb than Eb?
I wonder if it is possible to play that tube holding it upside town. It would like trying play the double-bass with it tucked under your chin.
I think Gabriel's Oboe sounded very lovely on the Bb Tuba! Not so much on the contrabass trombone. I am very sorry about the loss of the trombone.
The last moment with the bass trombone
How do I get a contrabass trombone if I want one (I do want one)
@LittleGenevieve
4 жыл бұрын
china
Where can I get a contrabass trombone?
Poor contrabass trombone! Love the tuba, but I absolutely love that farty low vibe of the contrabass trombone! Good stuff! 😅😁👍🏻
I have a quick and unrelated question for you. Could you review Bob McChesney's music book, Technical Studies for Trombone. It seems to be a decent book. I'd like your opinion on it. Thanks!
@TrentHamilton
7 жыл бұрын
I don't have a copy unfortunately. Do you have a link?
@brianc.mcguire9263
7 жыл бұрын
www.bobmcchesney.com/cds---books-
@brianc.mcguire9263
7 жыл бұрын
I hate to bother you. But, have you decided whether to review Bob McChesney's book, Technical Studies for Trombone? I think you'd do a good job at reviewing his book. Thanks!