Seth, I just wanted to say how helpful your podcasts were to my transition from Catholicism to Atheism. Of course, such a transition is a personal struggle, but listening to like-minded people on your podcasts helped me immensely. I don't listen as much as I once did, but I'll always be grateful for your show. Thank you, Josh

@johnfargher99

10 жыл бұрын

Snap I am an Atheist & former Catholic.

If creationist want to "Teach the CONtroversy" by putting creation "science" in the science classroom of public schools, Why don't the atheist start a campaign to put Evolution in sunday school?

@realitythumper9655

10 жыл бұрын

Great idea! lol!

@michaelallen1154

Жыл бұрын

9 years later... but ... Because everyone pays taxes to school districts. Only members of religious groups pay tithes. Religious people have a claim on schools (right or wrong) because they are forced to pay taxes to a government school.

I went to a pentecostle church one time. I was very confused when they started speaking in tongues, I thought it looked fun so I started imitating Donnie from the Wild Thornberrys and everyone thought God had entered me LOL. These people are so deluded. I was 10 mind you.

"He's a man of faith." That's something that scares the shit out of me when it comes to politicians, riding on that phrase like it's a good thing. How do I know that your faith isn't just schizophrenia? How can I be sure that the voices in your head are actually the voices of a higher power, and not just mental illness or personal arrogance? You have your thumb on the button...and I can't hear the voices in YOUR head...how do I know for SURE that you're not just a greedy sumbitch who wants nothing better than to see the world burn? The faithful really make my nervous.

@Bayhuntr

10 жыл бұрын

Religion in Politics is nothing more than a vote getter playing to the right, or in Obama's case, who is probably an atheist, preventing the on slot if hate, well more gate at least.

Regarding the statements made at 21:26 This is why, as an African American male, I agree with fundamentalist evangelicals when they say _”America was founded as a Christian nation.”_ *Founded on Hypocrisy and double standards* _”We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness…”_ 41 of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were slave owners. Some of them became president, owning slaves while sitting in the white house. Though somebody’s plan backfired, that whole _”freedom, liberty, rights and happiness”_ thing *was not originally meant for black people.* Looks like Christianity to me.

It's easy to show why "speaking in tongues" is rubbish. Because nothing ever came out of it. If a god would speak "in tongues" and convey a message, then the knowledge would be absolute astounding, and we would see those Christians be the most perfect human beings, with absolute wisdom and knowledge. But instead we get Ken Hem with his "If Noah’s flood were true you would expect to find millions of dead things buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the earth, and what do we actually see in the fossil record? Millions of dead things buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the earth!" - Except that the fossils are sorted by geologic layers exactly the way evolution have predicted.

@exodiathecoolone

10 жыл бұрын

No, the simplest way to debunk speaking in tongues is that it's gibberish. If someone wants to speak with me, he speaks in a language I understand, so as to get the message or point he's making across. If God really were making people speak in tongues, then he's a fucking idiot, because I don't understand a single syllable of what I'm hearing. If there is a message in there, I don't understand it.

It is common for intense study of the Bible and Christian history to leave the student no choice but to leave. I remember reading The History of Christianity and thinking that there is no way this is the history of the Church.

@ASMRyouVEGANyet

6 жыл бұрын

Jesse Toler this is so true. When I was doubting my faith, my Bishops kept telling me to pray and read my scriptures. Well, I prayed and I read my faith away.....

@BasileosHerodou

3 жыл бұрын

@@ASMRyouVEGANyet Because christianity does not work in the long rum

Whilst in Asia, I met someone who was once a former student of WLC, and aspires to be a Biblical apologist. The amount of indoctrination he had undergone was a tad frightening, being able to disassociate himself from reality so readily.

You really cracked me up on the tongues. I remember being 11 years old and laughing at everyone. I'd say, "Come on aunty Rose, you guys are just making that stuff up right?"

I like how the ad at the beginning of the podcast is for the movie, God's Not Dead... lol

@xXdArKcAnDiXx

4 жыл бұрын

I loved that movie as a teen lol

@ebenolivier5960

3 жыл бұрын

@@xXdArKcAnDiXx inn by BBC

When I get asked 'what evidence will it take to believe?' I have a simple answer: Find the Garden of Eden where the angel waits at the entrance with a spinning sword. I see that and I'll believe.

@brycekoperski5579

4 жыл бұрын

They would probably say "it was destroyed at the flood" or some stupid bullshit like that

@leoanim8s838

3 жыл бұрын

Many things arent mentioned in the bible because of there none importance to the point of the story the bible doesnt mention where the bed jesus slept on is rn

Anywhere i can buy a shirt with the large red A then in regular black letters theist t-shirt? ive been looking for awhile

Come visit Silverman territory, where the debris meets the sea (and vice versa); New Jersey! I made it down to the Reason Rally, but I just can't swing NC. Thanks all the same for all you guys do :-)

Try the YMCA summer camps. It's three fucking months of God. You start the day with prayer, you sing lots of trite God worship songs, then they finally let you out to have fun and play with other kids, but everything is so oppressively monitored and controlled to the extent that you can't even talk to other kids about your own interests, like Pokemon. As a child of the 90's, this seemed so ridiculous to me. I just wanted to share with my peers what my interests were, but apparently secular interests weren't on the docket. And it was expensive. Such a waste of the best times of my childhood.

Great show..really enjoyed it (Y)

It is odd that any believer would even try to dodge the "extraordinary" label being put on their god claims since they are amazed themselves and think we should also be amazed at the awesome and very not average/mundane/ordinary things that their alleged god can do. Why the heck worship a being that can't outperform the average human being anyway? So, when theists ask, I define "extraordinary" as that which is above average/mundane/ordinary. Gods are claimed to do things that are as extraordinary it gets. Otherwise, why call it a god in the first place? Defining "extraordinary" this way, I find that I don't have any problem in getting theists to admit that resurrections, and virgin births are claims of extraordinary properties, because otherwise their god is just ordinary, not impressive or worshipable in any way, and they do so desperately want us to be impressed with their alleged god's alleged abilities.

It's time for me to move on from God now. I no longer believe.

@ppharaoh5421

3 жыл бұрын

How’s life going for you now?

Excellent - thanks you two!!

It is amazing the incredible number of hardcore believers who keep becoming atheists! I even know so many now and am meeting more

@anadiaz469

7 жыл бұрын

do you remember how much people become atheist?

@anadiaz469

7 жыл бұрын

the exactly number?

I'm surprised this only has 29 views! Anyways, lets get the tape rolling!

@matthewlane

10 жыл бұрын

views are not measured immediately they are measured every couple of hours. Its why you sometimes get a video with 100 views & 1,000 likes.

Was a good video but it didn't feel like they got much debunking done.

Great video debunking Christianity. Religion is a poison

@kengilliland727

9 жыл бұрын

Dig !

Riverside! I want to attend this!

Yay... I want a camp quest in OKLAHOMA... (Okie here, We live in Howe... border of Ok/Ar) I'd love for my niece to get to go to something like that.

WHAT? I had no idea that the Unholy Trinity Tour had a stop at West Texas A&M (my choice college that I will be attending this falll!) Man! I wish you come again to that because I would have loved to see that. I guess I was just born too late haha

How about coming to Toronto.

@BaalBuster

10 жыл бұрын

That would be sweeeet. I'll bug Seth in Kamloops about that.

@cobaltxsnake

10 жыл бұрын

I would totally get Seth a beer.

Come to Victoria B.C please please

I've never attended Christian Summer Camp when I was a boy. I've heard of that sort of thing, but I've never attended. If there were Camp Quest camps in Washington state where I'm from, I'd have attended.

Yes!!! COME TO ANCHORAGE!!!

Anchorage Alaska!!! hurry up and confirm this so I can get the day off!!!

@John W. Loftus A number of times you have heard this claim. Look up Richard Madsen Skylar Fiction / Modern Day Debate / The Raging Atheist and you will find the beginnings of descriptions of why I do not have to deny any of the following; Science, secular morality, philosophy, personal and group experience, other ancient religions validity nor any part of provable reality.... and I can express why.

After decades in the church, when I first had the realization that I didn't believe in bible god; I downloaded a book by John Loftus to my kindle and devoured it. That was an amazing experience for me. It was every bit as powerful as when I got "saved." And to the "you don't understand the bible" crowd - I challenge you to a test of knowledge of the bible. I taught Sunday school and other bible studies. I used to play bible knowledge games with ordained ministers and seminary students and always finished at or near the top. It's my deep knowledge of the bible that was instrumental in my leaving Christianity.

@Jugivadi

5 жыл бұрын

I remember how dumb I felt when finding out that the apostles were not the authors of the gospels. Not only are they anonymous, but they were demonstrably not eye witnesses to what they are reporting notwithstanding who they might be. Really, the beginning of the end for me.

Still no Peoria Illinois for these atheist/freethinker events? Gee maybe if I pray...

@timmyr6506

10 жыл бұрын

In Peoria? Me too.....lol No shocker there with all these churches around

Hopefully i remember about late june.

To John W. Lofton As a believer my life does meaning. I do inquire and question. My views have radically changed in the 30 plus years since I became a Christian. Unlike some of the fundamentalists I sometimes argue with I do not consider the Bible as the Literal inerrant Word of God. I recognize the "bad" parts of the Bible and don't try to gloss over them. I do and have had a fulfilling life , and unlike the portrait some atheists like to paint when presented with evidence we do change our views( I no longer believe in Hades. I no longer believe the Bible comndemmes the LGBT community, the age of accountability, and have doubts about the Rapture.) Had I not accepted Christ, I have no doubt that I would be dead or in a very bad place now. Even after a major crisis of faith, I have no regrets. However if there was a real life "Davinchi Code" event, I would take a long hard look at my relationship with God. Keep watching!

@Truekeks085

8 жыл бұрын

but thats the problem tho, you dont have a personal relationship with some god or other. and yes, christianity is a scam. a succesful scam, but a scam nevertheless.

Is this even necessary? I mean, Christianity practically debunks itself!

@blackmesa232323

10 жыл бұрын

Well not to ignorant people.... Religion is stupid and anyone with a basic understanding of science, evolution, and physics can not be gullible

@User3rror

10 жыл бұрын

blackmesa232323 I know, rhetorical question, lol

@Lewa500

10 жыл бұрын

blackmesa232323 Mind telling that to religious scientists? These are very simplistic notions you're purporting.

@Lewa500

10 жыл бұрын

***** Religion is rooted in ritual and doctrine, not necessarily in "faith" (a very broad term in itself, too). Some religions are rooted in faith, but that is not a prerequisite for religion in general. There are certain metaphysical ideas that have some merit to them in a logical sense, like the idea of a deistic God or some kind of "force". It's not intellectually honest to say "religious scientist" is an oxymoron. History disproves that notion. Also, try not to argue that in the mindset of a scientist, religion and science are separate, because that is demonstrably not true. They are constantly in flux - see one Charles Darwin and one Newton for examples on different results.

@Lewa500

10 жыл бұрын

***** You're making assumptions you can only potentially justify case by case. Are you going to say Francis Collins is lying out of social pressure? Why and how can you justify that? Equally, Newton was considered a heretic for some of his religious beliefs. It seems he had no qualms about opposing the church on certain doctrines, going so far as to dabble in the occult. Your mindset is too dualistic to consider this reality that religion and science have a close relationship - not necessarily a non-hostile one, and not precisely on the validity of claims but rather on the influence they have on people and on themselves as systems. This is why I gave Charles Darwin as an example - he lost faith in his religious doctrines and rituals due to his scientific discoveries. If, in the mind of a scientist, religion and science had no connection, then one would not be able to influence or inform the other. The fact of the matter is that both religion and science are different takes on the same reality of our existence, and while some may use one to counter or suppress the other, they are both types of social and intellectual mentalities that are unlikely to be walled out from each other or to ever be rooted out of our psyche. In case you are wondering, I am an atheist and I oppose the adversity of religion. However, I don't support the notion that science and religion cannot co-exist.

Great interview. Thanks for posting it.

Clarice Starling: You see a lot, Doctor. But are you strong enough to point that high-powered perception at yourself?

You'd think by now the bible wouldn't need any debunking.

With theists I may not agree with you but I will defend you to the death to believe in what ever you wish to believe in weather that be a spaghetti monster or a floating grappa in a cloud

@teufeldritch

10 жыл бұрын

***** As long as they keep such f'ed beliefs to themselves & not force them on everyone else, either thru law or by social pressure or whatever then I too will fight for their right to believe whatever they want. It's when they try to force their beliefs on everyone that I have a prob. Do I think the world would be better off without such f'ed up beliefs? Hell yes! But ppl have the right to be stupid.

@EdwardHowton

10 жыл бұрын

***** Beliefs inform actions. Stupid beliefs engender stupid actions. Fucktarded primitive backwards bigoted psychopathic beliefs result in, well, the history of religion. People shouldn't have the right to be stupid. Not publicly. Not without consequence. Not without mass ridicule and children egging their homes every day and forcing them to board up their windows and stay out of the sunlight lest their neighbors whack them with whatever convenient objects are at hand for being such shameless shit-heads. You shouldn't be allowed to declare that 2+2=5 without regretting it. Ken Ham shouldn't be allowed to be the fucking dumb asshole he is and have *ANYONE* treat him with kid gloves. Boxing gloves, maybe.

@Lewa500

10 жыл бұрын

What's a grappa?

@armortech2154

10 жыл бұрын

Lewa500 i ment grandpa

@armortech2154

10 жыл бұрын

Jacob Suiter sorry

DEFINITIONAL APOLOGETICS IS WHEN YOU HAVE TO BE DEAF TO ALL THE COHERENT ARGUMENTS AGAINST YOUR APOLOGETICS !

Wow! So many christians watching these podcasts!

@Wildcard120

8 жыл бұрын

Yes. It's always good to see what the other side is saying. Keep watching!

Okay so, as much as I am against Christianity, particularly the fundamentalist strains, and as much as I understand the frustration, isn't it somewhat hypocritical to say that women "shouldn't" believe in Christianity/the bible? They have a choice to make for themselves and of that choice happens to be to be a devout Christian, it shouldn't be up to anyone else to tell them that they "shouldn't" make that choice.

@cameronyu2413

10 жыл бұрын

Sure women can believe in Christianity all they want but it wouldn't make sense because biblical Christianity treats women horribly. There's modern day inequalities as well even though they aren't as terrible as biblical Christianity. No one is choosing for them, it's just that we're pointing out why should women believe in something that treats them terribly?

SO SHWEEEETTT...much love Tee with LIONS NAMED LEO.[the music worldwide} ,,,....so fun.....

Love this show!

Hey, most of us are at the buckle of that bible belt. Help yes.

Tell me something of beauty and I will believe.

@marciasyme4586

5 жыл бұрын

Please Complete All Fields "Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

47:30

Yay

ATHEISTS BE LIKE THIS MY UNCLE JERRY 🐒

@cameron yu (can't reply on my phone, sorry) Sure, I get the point being made, of course, but literally anyone, of they want to believe the bible, has to pick and chose and to gloss over parts they find repellent. Even the WBBC aren't going out stoning people for working on Sundays, even Ken Ham et al aren't killing disrespectful children. Everyone has to pick and chose or interpret parts of the bible in more favourable lights, why should it be surprising that women are able to pick and chose a little bit more? That position is no less contradictory than that of the average bible-believing Christian- it's a quantitative difference not a qualitative one. And of course I recognise that he doesn't actually want to force women not to believe in the bible, but the manner in which he was talking about women specifically oh were Christians seemed somewhat condescending to me. I don't understand really why *anyone* would want to be a Christian, but that incredulity is no greater for women than it is for men.

@cameronyu2413

10 жыл бұрын

The very fact that you have to try hard to find the better parts about the bible might mean that there are more worse things than good things. History is certainly bloody. You can't simply ignore parts of the bible's history you don't like. Some of it probably did happen whether we like it or not. It's probable and nearly certain than it was worse for women than it was for men. Women trying to find good things in the bible are like how some women today try to find good things in their asshole husbands or boyfriends because they have low self-esteem.

"Everyone wins by donating" Wrong, one party benefits the other loses. I will not donate my money to a cause that I personally wont benefit from for no good reason.

@TheThinkingAtheist

10 жыл бұрын

Well...aren't you enlightened.

@ademetal

10 жыл бұрын

***** I think Everyone will benefit long term, it's like Bill Nye getting kids to love science, creating scientists and engineers. These are the people who will help us so much and it starts with teaching young minds correct ways to think, not forcing them to learn about myths and monsters.

@sammypuro9392

10 жыл бұрын

How selfish! Pathetic!

@MouseLookOnly

10 жыл бұрын

You're unquestionably following and defending the *magical* voice on the podcast (for no good reason). I'm logical, not selfish. Charity is not compatible within a capitalist framework. Did you first question your position before labeling me pathetic? The critical thinking community continues to disappoint me.

@MouseLookOnly

10 жыл бұрын

***** enlightenment aint pretty. sory

Sorry Seth I'm a Texan! :-P

mark 9:42,

Just watched an ad for Reformation Bible College on the lead in. Girl worried about becoming an athiest but was saved by going there LMAO

He sounds like Heisenberg.

@captscurlock

10 жыл бұрын

I'M the one who debunks!

I'm not a pure atheist but I appreciate your debunking of Christianity because, to me, it doesn't mean debunking God. Thanks for putting this out there. ✌

@nikkicampbell22

4 ай бұрын

AMEN BROTHER KEEP YOUR FAITH!!

@nikkicampbell22

4 ай бұрын

*in God and Jesus*

Jesus sinned he broke one of the ten commandments

@pana376

8 жыл бұрын

+Melissa Welch not to work on sabbath

@Wildcard120

8 жыл бұрын

+pana376 "Which one of you would leave a calf stuck in a ditch for an entire day? The Son of Man is lord even on the Sabbeth". Paraphrased of course. Keep watching.

@iamvickie9145

5 жыл бұрын

@@Wildcard120 So, in other words, "Do as I say and not as I do". So the whole "pattern yourself after Jesus" thing just won't work because he is authorized to do shit that we can't. That's some great phuckin leadership! LOL!

@bakedbeans5494

Жыл бұрын

@@iamvickie9145 No.

I want to buy this guy book. He great

There is an extremely rare condition where a virgin can give birth. I don't think this was the case with Jesus but it is theoretically possible

Thank you for the show. I was a Christian. After reading the Bible, I became a proud Atheist and have been completely content. Freedom is a beautiful gift.

Joe Walsh or preacher? lol!

Imma be honest with you, I don't care for the podcasts, when are you making some funny animations like you used to ?

@TheEnfadel

10 жыл бұрын

Probably because you don't drive long distance or have a desk job. To someone who does, the mild thoughtful pace is very relaxing.

@theclipreaper

10 жыл бұрын

I don't mean stop making the podcasts, I mean give us some funny stuff, after all, that's why I subscribed

@BrumelyKris

10 жыл бұрын

***** Watch non-stamp collector or Darkmatter2525.

@koltirasrip5775

10 жыл бұрын

***** You should look for a different source of entertainment then. The podcast is the flagship of the Thinking Atheist. The funny animations are a side project, and only done when Seth feels the inspiration or drive. If that's all you're here for, you're here for the wrong reasons.

@brendaschouten-beckett6448

10 жыл бұрын

No, I have to agree with #theclipreaper because I don't have a lot of time to be on this laptop. I do not mind admitting I am a visual person and shorter, visual presentations are more effective for sharing also. I am not on here for entertainment and that was a bitchy comment, #koltrasrip.

Too many plugs. Good luck

One of my favorite personal stories, was a man I was visiting quite often, mainly because he was a scientist / biologist and never believed in God. We talked often about Science, and often about religion. He told me he was never afraid to die, and by science, everything has a lifespan in which it returns to the earth from which it came, and thus is the process of the circle of life. Understandable, he had devoted 50 years of his life to his research, and although I would talk about Jesus and God randomly with him, he always shrugged away from the topic. I came back to the hospital a month later to investigate another patient, when I was told by a nurse that the Scientist wanted to speak with me. I went into his room, and when he saw me, his eyes flared up in desperation. He went on to tell me that two weeks ago, he had a stroke, and was dying. When he was dying he had a vision, in which he could see his own mother and father smiling at him, and behind them, and older man with a warm smile. He told me he recongnized the old man, to which I responded..... Uncle ?, Grandfather ?. He just looked at me, shook his head, and reponded with, Jesus, that he had a picture when he was just a boy in his room of Jesus, and it looked exactly similar to that picture I couldn't believe it. Since this man was not religious in any sense, and devoted his life to science, but for the first time he told me he was actually afraid of dying, and confront an entity which he spent his life trying to de-bunk. And it was the first time he asked me, still very hesitant, about the Bible, and the exact teachings of Jesus.

@barkYdarkATFB

4 жыл бұрын

I call BS🙄 File that under “didn’t happen”

@applesoranges8015

4 жыл бұрын

@@barkYdarkATFB kzread.info/dash/bejne/aWyHzbaum5vAlJc.html

@barkYdarkATFB

4 жыл бұрын

@Veda Slayton yes, that would be part of the aforementioned “didn’t happen” file. With your made up story sitting right on top.

@applesoranges8015

4 жыл бұрын

@@barkYdarkATFB My grandmother said that Jesus told her she was going home before she died. I've not only witnessed deathbed visions, but also family members that had premonitions of a loved one's death that happened shortly after their dream, and family that knew a loved one had died either telepathically or by seeing an apparition of the deceased before they were notified. No one knows what exactly happens until they die or transitions from this realm to the next. I prefer to believe that we came from something rather than nothing. The more science tries to figure out the universe the more complicated it becomes, and that is why they will never be able to disprove God. Our Creator meant to keep it that way.

@barkYdarkATFB

4 жыл бұрын

@Veda Slayton my grandmother thought birds were flying in the house. And, what you prefer to believe isn’t evidence of what is true. BTW, science doesn’t try to “disprove god”. It just so happens that with every discovery, every understanding of a fact, every breakthrough, the notion of a god diminishes. Again, your original story is completely made up.

:D

Bible has rules for abortion in the book of Numbers under test for the unfaithful wife

@GenerationX1984

7 жыл бұрын

That's true. I've read it too. It just shows how little the anti-abortion Christians know about the Bible. The Bible is a paperweight in most Christian homes gathering dust on the shelf, but the nonreligious have actually read it and understand it.

@dekuboidonut4552

6 жыл бұрын

It doesn't mention any baby dieng

@iamvickie9145

5 жыл бұрын

@@dekuboidonut4552 So what do you think happens to the embryo/fetus/baby when a woman miscarries? Don't be ignorant please.

As much as I have always HATED the religious pushing their faith on me I have HATED the lack of faith pushing god away from me.

@cameronyu2413

10 жыл бұрын

The problem with what you said is that a lack of faith implies that the god belief isn't there so there's no god to be pushed away from.

@JASCOBAR

10 жыл бұрын

Cameron Yu No Christmas - No wearing of crosses - no religious (preferably not Christian iconicity in public symbolism - no group prayer in the public realm and so on.

@JASCOBAR

10 жыл бұрын

JASCOBAR OBTW atheists are busy body brats.

@cameronyu2413

10 жыл бұрын

Many atheists celebrate Christmas because we enjoy family and friends as much as religious people do. The difference is we don't inject god and jesus into the equation. You can pray whenever you want to at home and be as loud as you want in church even though it doesn't work. Theists are busier than atheists as we aren't building churches and trying to influence every part of society with false promises.

@JASCOBAR

10 жыл бұрын

Cameron Yu ACLU is busy bodies. A bunch of dictators n such. I don't care if there is religious expression around me as long as it is not a deterrent to me for qualifying for anything in the public realm.

People forget or just don't realize... Christianity was always persecuted... Jesus clearly says.. This world hated him, and will hate those also who support him.. But This world will love those who are of this world.. Which is the prince of this world.. As a Christian I feel peace when I remind myself of Jesus words. One just has to read the gospels and focus on Jesus teachings and parables that's the most important thing.. Once you do you realise it all. Atheism, Judaism, Islam, is all the same.. They don't believe in Jesus the Christ in some way. Just look in that way how it aligns with what Jesus said about the narrow path of those who are saved and when people are taken up when it's time

@rhondah1587

8 жыл бұрын

+Herakles It is highly unlikely that the words you read in the gospels are in fact the words of jesus but it is far more likely that they are stories about a character that people talked about and embellished over the decades before the educated Greek writers wrote the gospels long long after the supposed events. Scholars know that the sermon on the mount could not have been words of jesus as it refers to the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. The first gospel the bishops later titled Mark ends in the oldest versions with the women being afraid at the tomb and running away, not telling anyone what they saw. If that were the case, no one would know anything about the event much less be able to write a story about it. Then the gospel titled Matthew embellishes Mark and Luke embellishes Matthew and finally John just goes wild with embellishment of the story. There are many contradictions and none are written in the first person. They are made up stories. BTW muslims do venerate jesus in the Koran. They thought he was a prophet, just not the last one. LOL

@stevomcneill

8 жыл бұрын

yeah, and jesus commande " eat my booty and drink my blood" Christian Cannibal Zombie Vampires

@KneedleKnees

5 жыл бұрын

So what about all the Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, and even atheists and agnostics, who are or have been persecuted in history? Persecution itself just isn't a good litmus test to prove its truth.

this is boring, bring the amazing atheist on!

Lmao no one cares

Hah!! Watch this guy in a debate. The only thing he debunks is any credibility he might of had.

@stevomcneill

8 жыл бұрын

might of had? or might have had grammar school

@mr.mcbeavy1443

6 жыл бұрын

Bungalo Bill Says the guy who loses all credibility for using " might of had". "Might have had" or "might've had" are both correct. "Might of had" is gibberish.

@ASMRyouVEGANyet

6 жыл бұрын

Was going to comment on the bad grammar, you two already beat me to it.

Thank you Mr. Loftus. I have read all of your books (save one) . I just purchased your newest one and can say that my faith in Christ and the bible have been strengthened because of them. By researching scripture deeper and putting the bible to the test I appreciate His Word even more. I will say you do have a strong bias toward Christianity. You are very bitter. It is sad. I have been saved close to 40 years now and have seen my brothers and sisters in Christ doing great things in the Lord. You will always have a bad apple here or there no matter what group of people you are dealing with whether it is Hindu's, co- workers, neighbors, atheists, customers, Christians, etc.I agree completely with Dinesh D'Souza. You will not get an argument from me on some of the things that have been done in the name of Christ such as the Inquisition. But remember. Most of the people killed by the roman catholic church were bible believing Christians. As far as the Crusades go much of it was political and not doctrinal. Much of your fighting today can likewise be attributed to political differences and not theological ones (catholics/ protestants in Ireland).They are not attacking each other over transubstantiation and soteriological differences. The Jesus of the bible never tells any of His followers to attack people physically.When people have done so in the name of Christ they have done so by misrepresentation. The fault lies with the individual not the scriptures. Remember that atheistic leaders have killed far more .The immediate argument I get from atheists is that people like Lenin and Stalin didn't kill in the name of atheism which may very well be true but I will guarantee that had they been genuine Christians they would not have killed at all. The same can be said of the bad popes or any other person in Christendom that used Christ as their means to justify their sinful action. I agree with you that atheists can be moral. There are good atheists and bad atheists. The same can be said of all people. But if you are honest you must admit that atheistic ideas can lead a person to do deplorable acts since they could use their power to do evil and feel they don't have anyone to answer to in the next life (since atheists believe there is no God and no afterlife). Such was the case with Lenin and Stalin.

@Jace_C86

9 жыл бұрын

"been genuine Christians they would not have killed at all." No true Scotsman fallacy. Religion literally convinces people to do bad things and calls it just. "But if you are honest you must admit that atheistic ideas can lead a person to do deplorable acts since they could use their power to do evil and feel they don't have anyone to answer to" Yes, its called personal responsibility. If you are only being a good person because someone is telling you to be or your fear punishment, you are not a good person. If you, Randy are only being good because the bible tells you to be, than you are not a good person. Consider being responsible to yourself and your peers.

@randypacchioli2933

9 жыл бұрын

*****​ All of us are sinners. Only Jesus can save us from our sins. My statements are accurate. 

@johnfargher99

9 жыл бұрын

Randy Pacchioli Christianity is so bizarre now that I view at as a rational atheist. But when I was like you it all made sense. Self delusion is funny. Loftus is right. Its all gibberish. Especially as the Christian God sends out a different message to all the 30,000 different conflicting denominations.

@Jace_C86

9 жыл бұрын

Randy Pacchioli All of us are imperfect human beings. Look if you want to take a self deprecating view of yourself and put yourself down for things out of your control, you have every right to. I just don't accept that kind of cultist mindset that we are born broken. It is a sickness, and depressing view of life. The only person who can save you is yourself. Grow up and take responsibility for your own actions and stop using a scapegoat to free yourself from your personal obligations to be a decent human being.

@randypacchioli2933

9 жыл бұрын

***** You are misguided.

Sorry Seth I'm a Texan! :-P