*Timestamps:* 00:00 - Introduction 00:28 - Background of Dr. Ali Ataie 00:39 - Today's Topic 01:24 - Introduction to the Topic 02:06 - The Claim of the Christian Polemicist & Modern Atheist 05:48 - No Copy and Paste Job! 08:15 - Important Preliminary Questions 17:04 - New Testament Authorship as per the Christian tradition 17:44 - Authorship as per the General Consensus of Critical Scholars 19:06 - Facts about the New Testament Canon 29:30 - Matthew and Paul 40:33 - Papias & "Mark:" Was Papias actually describing ’The Gospel of Mark?’ 46:20 - In Reality, It's All Apocrypha 47:20 - Historicity of the Christian Texts & Beliefs 49:41 - What's a Christian? 54:22 - Hadith vs The New Testament 56:14 - ’Many’ were Writing ’Stories’ about Jesus 59:46 - There is ’Gospel Truth’ outside the New Testament! 1:01:25 - The Truth about Christian Beliefs & Texts 1:05:01 - Polemicist Double Standards 1:06:49 - Canonical NT Writers quoting or referencing noncanonical writings 1:15:55 - Multiple Attestation & Social Coherence 1:29:30 - Method of Paul & the Gospel Writers 1:35:48 - The Qur'anic view of Jesus: Is it historically plausible? 2:07:46 - OT Apocryphal/Deuterocanonical References by the Gospel Writers 2:17:46 - The Proto-Gospel of James vs the Qur'an 2:28:29 - The Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew (aka Infancy Gospel of Matthew) vs the Qur'an 2:40:41 - The Infancy Gospel of Thomas vs the Qur'an 2:53:00 - The Arabic Gospel of the Infancy of the Saviour/Syriac Infancy Gospel vs the Qur'an 2:57:05 - Summary of the Presentation 2:57:19 - Book Recommendations 2:58:30 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up SubhanAllah ❤️💛💙 Marvelous Presentation & Discussion 👍🏻👌🏻 _May Allah ﷻ bless you both and reward you for your efforts._ 🤲🏻

@BloggingTheology

11 ай бұрын

@asadullahsaaid3794 thank you!

@asadullahsaaid3794

11 ай бұрын

@@BloggingTheology *You're Most Welcome Sir* 😊☺️

@laputa4825

11 ай бұрын

@@BloggingTheology An excellent video, Ali Ataie is one of the forefront scholars in comparative religious studies and this video shows his expertise.

@FBI-fm6dm

11 ай бұрын

Bless you brother

@asadullahsaaid3794

11 ай бұрын

@@FBI-fm6dm بارك الله فيك أخي 🤍

As a Revert to Islam, this account of my former religion of Christianity makes so much sense. Thank you, Brothers.

I read Bible a long time ago, and I am happy to learn that Dr Ataie validated what I had concluded back then. In summary, the catholic Bible was first published in 1609 and the protestant Bible in 1611. There was no Bible before that. There were scattered sources in various languages written long after the actual events and Bible authors used those sources. Some actual words of God from Torah, Psalms or Gospel might have been included but it’s all mixed up with writers’ own account and is more of a commentary or a narrative review of all sources and interpretations combined. Thus, Quran which was published in 632 CE could not have copied from a book that got published 1000 years later. On the other hand, Quran lays down the principles of a wide range of subjects including ethics, religious beliefs, governance, economics, archeology, astronomy, biology and medicine. There is not much Arabic literature prior to Quran. How can one explain that the prophet of Islam peace be upon him managed to compile all the data in his head, edited it in his head and started orally disseminating it over a period of 23 years to complete a product, that has it own unique form. It is not in a standard book form - prose, poetry or drama. It is like a dream in which you jump from one scene to another with a running commentary in the background, but unlike dream, which often makes no sense, it is all connected to a core message and internally and externally consistent while remaining eloquent. That's what the challenge is about to produce a book like that. The miracles of Moses or Jesus were witnessed by people of that time and who knows what they saw. Quran is available for all learned people to examine. So the question is how was it produced if not by revelation?

One of the ways our teachers say to defend the Qurān is to memorise the Qurān and send our kids to the Masjid to memorise the Qurān. Allāh give me and us all the ability to memorise, act upon and teach the Qurān Āmīn!

@hikmah_bersama2049

11 ай бұрын

Indonesian Christian kid loves the call to prayer kzread.info/dash/bejne/mGmJ1qdmYZiopsY.html

@user-cg4nc8lb3j

11 ай бұрын

understanding the quran and its sciences is just as important:if not more By undertsanding its content that helps the memorisation memorisation in and of itself shudnt be goal and objective Allah knows best

@samkb6374

11 ай бұрын

@@rebasingh258 Please apply the noble price elections and the Olympics to 2000 years back and we will see a very different picture. Don’t forget that modern science and technology is based on works of classical giants. You should broaden up your historical horizon.

@naijamuslim8364

11 ай бұрын

Ameen

@MohamedShou

11 ай бұрын

Not just memorising but actually understanding it fully as well. To many Muslims nowadays have become like parrots unfortunately and I know so many Muslims that don’t even know the basic translations of Surah Fatiha 🤦🏾‍♂️. This is why many non Muslims mock us unlike centuries before when Muslims would memorise the Quran and understand the Arabic fully. But nowadays our Sheikhs that teach us the Quran in madrasas don’t even understand the Quran themselves. In the non Arabic speaking countries we need to teach the children how to learn Arabic, teach them how to read Arabic, write Arabic and speak Arabic in conversation while memorising the Quran. There are millions of Muslims walking around not knowing the basic translation of even Fatiha but are just parroting the Quran. The Quran did not come down to just be a parroting book subhanallah 🤦🏾‍♂️

I am a follower of Jesus and I absolutely learn more about "Christianity"and Islam from Dr Ali Ataie than from any other human alive today by listening to Blogging Theology as I work. May the Lord be magnified. Assalamualaikum. Shalom Aleichem.

@joyphillips1821

11 ай бұрын

WHO IS THE MESSENGER in this Quranic verse? surah 4: 64-65 We only sent messengers to be obeyed by Allah’s Will. If only those ˹hypocrites˺ came to you ˹O Prophet˺-after wronging themselves-seeking Allah’s forgiveness and the Messenger prayed for their forgiveness, they would have certainly found Allah ever Accepting of Repentance, Most Merciful. But no! By your Lord, they will never be ˹true˺ believers until they accept you ˹O Prophet˺ as the judge in their disputes, and find no resistance within themselves against your decision and submit wholeheartedly. Is this messenger JESUS? Where you have to ask Jesus to pray on behalf of you for your SINS? John 14: 6 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

@johnbrzykcy3076

11 ай бұрын

@@joyphillips1821 I've never read the Quran but I'm a Christian believer. Indeed I believe Jesus is the "messenger" and beloved Son of God who offers us forgiveness of sins. I appreciate your comments. Peace of God to you from Florida

@condorianonegdiffsgoku

11 ай бұрын

​@@joyphillips1821no its not jesus. The hypocrites were called to come to Muhammad pbuh. But seek forgiveness from Allah not from him as is crystal clear in the verse.

@Sanjurocha

11 ай бұрын

Peace be upon you 🤲

@beth1979

11 ай бұрын

God bless you Benjamin.

I could listen to Dr. Ataie for hours, and I do. Allah bless and reward you both for spreading such valuable knowledge.

May Allah Bless and Reward Both of you in this Life and in the Hereafter.

Always looking forward for Dr Ali’s appearances on BT 🙏🏻👏🏻 it always means precious, insightful information

Another 3 hour banger and with Dr Ali Atai no less 😁 May Allah bless you for all your work sir

Dr. Ali Ataie is always a pearl on BT. His are always loàded presentations. May Allah protect him and reward him

We are lucky to have the Quran. Alhamdulillah, Allah is indeed merciful. Thank you Paul for inviting Dr Ali with this great knowledge. May Allah reward you brother Paul for your work on your channel. ❤❤❤

@pietrredyell409

11 ай бұрын

I don't understand how is it the Koran punishes apostates with Hell.. As one can't force oneself to believe what one dosen't believe, why would he do that? Makes no sense to me...

@pietrredyell409

11 ай бұрын

@@DisasterGuy2142 I see... According to you I am free to chose to believe that 1+1 =3?

@adamaourara2942

6 күн бұрын

Christianity has jesus punishing people with hell for not professing with theyre tongue! Which means hell for rejection and apostasy! Judasim has the death penalty for apostasy, ​islams death penalty is for the apsotate that makes it public and tries to sow discird amongst the muslims, plenty apostates walking around kiving breathing, there are rukes in death penalty for apostasy! You don't want to try to understand @pietrredyell409

Alhamdullilah, I'm glad you live in England for my sake because you are uploading before 5am my time in the US and I work at 6am so I will get to listen to this during the morning's work. 😊 Thank you brother Paul and Dr. Ali Ataie for your work.

@mikaelfarro

11 ай бұрын

Salam, may I ask for a favour after your permission

This is an extremely important lecture for muslims to benefit from. Especially in our discussions with christians.

@hassanmuhammad2799

3 ай бұрын

🙄 ohhh yes. The Jesus of the Bible is "100% man and 100% God." For me as a Muslim, it's like hearing someone scratch a chalkboard 😖. May Allah guide them!

Amazing lecture! I could listen to Dr. Ataie all day every day

Always a pleasure, please have Dr. Ataie on more often!

Magisterial is indeed right. This felt more like an epic journey than an academic lecture. Amazing stuff. Alhamdou Lillah for blessing us with Islam, and for people like Brother Paul and Professor Ali Ataie. Thank you all for this incredibly informative, faith-affirming engagement.

Finally, more of Dr. ALI

Thank you so much brother Paul, for finally hosting our favourite Sheikh (Professor Ali Ataie) what a deep and scholarly presentation. May ALLAH (SWT) rewards both of you.

Another great lecture 👍🏼. May Allah bless both of you brothers and reward you for sharing the truth. May Allah forgive all of our sins.

@sabriya7647

11 ай бұрын

​@@rebasingh258Fake News

@alifiamd9963

11 ай бұрын

​​@@rebasingh258ow do you justify Church and Pope sanctioned Inquisition of Europe where genocide and ethnic cleansing of Jews and Muslims was committed by Christians? See the difference here?

@omarsaeed3753

11 ай бұрын

Ameen

@cumar9875

11 ай бұрын

​@@rebasingh258their upbringing was secular liberal not islamic at all so that's why their action is an un-islamic

@sarahhopeful6683

9 ай бұрын

​@@rebasingh258those are french citizens, educated in french schools. By the way, when would descendants of immigrants stop being considered immigrants? We are talking about third and fourth generation immigrants here in France.

One of the best Biblical podcasts on KZread so far.

wonderful lecture . many thanks to Dr Ali Ataie and to many thanks to you Paul for such great content, May Allah bless and protect you

Hope you recover from the cough soon Paul. Appreciate your effort to go through with this podcast despite it. May Allah reward you!

Long awaited lecture. I suggest tgat those who haven't listened to the part one to fo that before this or at least after.

an absolute banger of an episode! Please do more with Dr. Ali Ataie

A great lecture by your esteemed and knowledgeable guest Dr Ali Ataie , Thank you so much Brother Paul for this upload & Jazakoum Allah khayran for your fantastic channel .

I always get so many knowledge just by watching one video of Dr Ataie, thanks for this Paul!

Thank you again Dr. Ali Ataie and Paul. May Allah bless both of you.

Thank you for this Paul. Dr. Ataie is my favorite guest on you channel. Can’t wait to sit back and drink from the fire-hose of knowledge.

Can't get enough of Dr. Ataie! :)

So many things I need to do, yet I could not tear myself away from Dr. Ali Ataie's presentation. He's knowledge is so expansive and well documented I feel compelled to take notes to assist in retaining it all. As well as benefiting from it. It obliterates all doubts about the validity of the faith. Masha Allah. Thanks to Brother Paul's successful platform. Insha Allah.

May Allah bless and reward brother Paul and Dr.Ali Ataie ❤

He is one of the few for whom I'd spend hours to listen

Alhamdulillah. Thank you for sharing this for us. Brother Paul and Dr ali. I learn so many new words today. Love it. 👍

Jazaakumullaahu khairan brother Paul for the wonderful discussion

First time coming back to KZread and blogging theology and already the best video ever is up MashaAllah keep it up brother Paul ❤

Thanks brother paul williams and may Allah give you good health and thanks to brother ali attai for this academic presentation

Thank you Dr Ali and Blogging Theology.

Great job my teacher I wish you success.Thank so much You and your guest

Great guest with amazing knowledge , i enjoy listening to him .

Thank you Paul thank you for being so informative , May Allah grant you and your guest amongst the highest levels of Jannah

34 mins into the video and I've jotted a page long. Wow! Loads of information here. Jazakumulahu khair.

Bravo ! Je vous suis de France; j'apprends beaucoup de choses en matière de théologie et en même temps j'améliore mon anglais !

@karimb972

11 ай бұрын

Je suis du Québec et je confirme que les ressources islamiques en anglais sont plus nombreuses et supérieures en anglais. BT est unique au monde et absolument fantastique. salam aleykoum

@sahibalhut

11 ай бұрын

Mdrrr je savais pas qu'il y avait des français ici 🤣

Much anticipated ❤

I am a Muslim and an Arab, but I find that Muslims have a problem in understanding the universality of Islam... when European and American Muslims change their names to Arabic names, and this is something that is neither binding nor necessary, and at the same time they preserve the Arabic word (Allah) as if God is a proper name, like Muhammad, other than It is translatable, although (Allah) is God in English, and Dieu in French, and Dio in Spanish, but the West intended to preserve the name of Allah in the Arabic pronunciation in order to say that Islam is a local Arab religion and not a global religion, and the Islamic Allah becomes like Jehovah, the God of the Jews, and this is a Western trick.

May Allah guide and reward the presenter and the host. Very informative and fantastic MashaAllah

Thank you both for this great content.

The only reason Ali Ataie is not as well known as Erhman is because Erhman has managed to write many books. In my opinion dr Ataie is far more knowledgeable though. He just needs to write some more books

Many thanks both for this informative program.

Jazakallah khair uncle Paul I requested for this video if I'm not wrong not sure if you saw my request and made it anyways Allah humma bariq.

Salam alaykoum. What a wonderful discussion wow... Thank you so much !

It's disheartening that you don't have a million or two subscribers yet Mr Paul, your channel is marvelous

Excellent presentation by Dr. Ali Ataie. It's always a pleasure listening and learning from Dr. Ali. A ocean of knowledge. Really enjoyed this. Learned a lot and make me hungry to learn and inquire more. Thanks Sir Paul for hosting Dr. Ali. May Allah bless both of you. Can't wait to see Dr. Ali Ataie discussing many more topics.

@johnbrzykcy3076

11 ай бұрын

I'm a Christian believer and I also appreciate Dr. Ali Ataie because of his scholarly views. However although I respect him, that doesn't mean I accept everything he says. Peace of God to you....

JazakAllahu khairan Brother Paul and Dr Ali Ataie. May Allah protect you both, Ameen ya Rab.

Fantastic !!! Cant wait to listen inshallah ☺️☺️👌👌

How do we not have an Ataie and Ehrman stream yet Paul?! Make it happen, please 🙏 bring them together

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:02 📜 Introduction to the discussion with Dr. Ali Ataie 01:22 🧐 What the Quran is doing with the Christian tradition 05:28 📖 Quranic criticism of Christian beliefs 08:03 📜 Historical context of the New Testament Canon 16:09 📚 What defines a Christian and the role of the Catholic Church 23:33 🕰️ Misconceptions about the Council of Nicaea and the Canon 23:48 📜 Origins of the New Testament Canon 26:21 🕰️ Canon Misconceptions 27:29 📖 Criteria for Canonical Books 34:10 📜 Matthew's Gospel and Pauline Christianity 43:12 📖 Attribution of Mark and Matthew 47:06 📜 Preservation of the Quran and Early Christian Canon 51:32 🕊️ Trinity and Early Christian Beliefs 56:56 📜 Quoting Apocryphal Texts and the Question of Truth 01:09:33 📜 Historical and literary analysis of biblical texts 01:13:01 📜 Janus and Jambres in early Christian writings 01:15:34 📜 Historical plausibility of stories about Jesus and Mary 01:21:21 📜 The uniqueness of John's Gospel 01:28:51 📜 Paul's references to pagan sources 01:30:56 📖 The Method of Incorporating Diverse Texts 01:32:09 📜 Plausibility of Statements Attributed to Jesus 01:33:45 📚 Authenticity of Statements About Jesus in the Quran 01:35:49 🌟 Plausibility of the Virgin Birth 01:50:04 📖 Mary's Defense and Plausible Origin of Virgin Birth Belief 01:53:09 🌟 Jesus and his birth 01:58:58 📜 Quranic view of Jesus 02:04:47 📜 Jesus' teachings in the Quran 02:07:23 📜 Old Testament Apocrypha and New Testament 02:14:52 🕍 Jesus and the Feast of Dedication Made with HARPA AI

Learning much from this thank both of you.

Salam Alaykum and Thank you very much for the very educational lecture.! Its always a blessing when I see Dr Ali Ataie with a new teaching

I would love to see Ali Ataie debating Bart Ehrman on this subject.

@Kuuzie1

11 ай бұрын

Can he when is not an expert in Biblical or Christian history? His sources of information are from the kind of scholars you are asking him to debate. His presentation materials are not of Muslim source.

@alifiamd9963

11 ай бұрын

​@@Kuuzie1who is this he you're referring to? Dr Ataie or Ehrman?

@condorianonegdiffsgoku

11 ай бұрын

​@@Kuuzie1ali ataie did masters and phd in related topics. And ali also has the knowledge of islam which bart totally lacks. So ali can look at it from a perspective bart simply can't. But bart would not accept ali's perspective because of his stubborn historian principles. It would lead no where.

@siddiquekatiya

10 ай бұрын

I suspect dr Ehrmam never agree to debate with dr. Ataie - Ehrman is an atheist and admit saying that he didn’t study the Quran. He will never agree to this for his scholarship reasons.

Nice. its Dr. Ali again🎉

salaam from Santa Fe, New Mexico

The thing with the Christians always bringing up the apocryphal gospels and things outside of the Torah is that they are ironically portraying the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh&f) to be probably the most knowledgable biblical scholar of all time.

Great interview.

Liking the vocal inflection when Hajji Paul said "AsalamuAlayKUM, Sir"... Upgrade from "you're most WELCOME, Sir" 🤔

MashaAllah brothers great work, may Allah Azzawajjal bless you both, ameen

This is such a good video. I can't even. I need to watch this 45 more times. I've already watched it 4 times. Insane amount of details

@snakejuce

9 ай бұрын

9/18416a 😔yesuwerehereyestanddaybefo

Thank you Blogging Theology for facilitating this. And thank you Dr Ali Ataie for sharing your knowledge. May Allah reward you in this life and after life. In part 1, there was a link to the slide. Mind sharing slide for this part too?

Surely this presentation was majesterial

Gotta love it when the guest is an Iranian non Shia, orthodox traditional Sunni Muslim.

I so appreciate these brothers. May Allah reward them both.

If any Christian watched this it would surely be eye opening and make them realise there is absolute Truth to be found in Islam

@pyellard3013

11 ай бұрын

Why when the Koran claims Allah punishes apostates with Hell. No one can force themslves to believe what they don't beleive. As such punishment for apostates is evil mad abuse of power... But Allah can't be evi and mad, right? Yep! So the Islam God is false... And that's just one proof that Islam is man made nonsense..

Salam, Brother a suggestion make sure your Ali Ataie playlist is updated with all the videos of Ali Ataie. Thank you

Alhamdulillah for your lecture, both of you 😊 BTW, syafakallah brother Paul..

Could we get like a PDF for this. Would be amazing! Pretty please

@siddiquekatiya

10 ай бұрын

One can use transcript option and copy entire transcript ( show transcript) and save into a pdf file i do

May the almighty God bless you my brother

an truly fascinating session

Some of this part lecture is definitely deserve their own shorts clips

As salaamu ‘alaykum! Both Sheikh Hamza Yusuf Mark Hanson and Dr. Ali Ataie are the very best that the world has on these matters. Their approaches are extremely respectful; they are both deeply knowledgeable, unique and the very best I have ever heard! Thank you, Paul, for such remarkable interviews. God bless you! BAFS

Amazing work. Keep it up. Alhamdulillah! ♥♥♥

Phenomenal as always, mashallah. Paul, when can we anticipate part 2? Also, is there any update on when we can hope for Dr. Ataie's book to be released?

More of Dr. Atai please

Dr ali is the dude!!

Amazing beautiful .... great sharing 🇲🇾

All universities across the Globe need Prof. Ali Ataie lectures to deliver the World to the truth of Islam.

So Powerful!!!🙏🏾

MasyaAllah, Tabarak Allah.... this is PURE GOLD. Alhamdulillah

@johnbrzykcy3076

11 ай бұрын

But not everything that glitters is "Pure Gold". Respectfully.. I'm open minded to listen and learn from all kinds of scholars ( Muslim, Christian and atheist) but our priority should be listening to the quiet voice of God the Creator. Peace of God to you...

@AdnMoko

11 ай бұрын

@@johnbrzykcy3076 in the 1st wolrd Muslim Countries (UAE, KSA, Qatar ect). The glitters often is !!! Let that sink in my friend. may the peace of God be upon you too my Friend... 😁

Great as always

Fantastic!! Plus, I see Paul’s got the Hajj Flu. Allahu Yashfeehi

My favorite episodes, couldnt click any faster 😁

Longing for part 3 on Jewish scripture and Dhu'l-Qarnayn!

JazakumAllahu khayr brothers for this excellent presentation. Another important concept to point out would be the agrapha which are sayings of Jesus PBUH that are not found in the canonical gospels but are still accepted by Hellenistic Christians.

Fantastic talk.

I appreciate the amazing load of knowledge provided by Dr.Ali Ataie, may Allah preserve him and strengthen his Faith. And I also would like to call those who for example despise Sheikh Al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah because of ignorance to investigate him a little bit for he was a masterclass at calling out different sects. I noticed unfortunately a raise of a certain category of Muslims who spit in the face of many scholars such as Ibn Al Uthaymeen, Ibn Baz, Al Fawzan, Al Madkhali...etc while not knowing that they are as marvelous as the Doctor here or even more in term of their academical depth. With that being said I ask Allah to give us sincerity in the quest for knowledge and to give us success in the implementation of it. Assalam Alaikum.

SubhanAllah Alhamdulillah Allahuakbar

Wake up babe new blogging theology Ali Ataie video just dropped

Basic Energy function for the alphabet in the Al-Qur'ăn. A - activation B - chrominance D - deliver F - foto (photon) G - library H - hierarchy I - current {electric} J - various/vector K - enlightment L - link M - mechanic N - numerous Q - knowledge R - receptor S - signal T - memory {tantalum} U - utilize W - wavelength Y - system Z - book

Sheer brilliance!

excellent video

Jazakumullah khayran

The birth of Jesus (pbuh) is a sign for the children of Israel. In fact, the children of Israel had the law, and thought that they had reached the highest level of knowledge of God and his attributes, and were proud. God sends them a symbolic message, to say that I am sending you someone who will teach you spirituality, which is above the simple knowledge of the law, but which is the knowledge of the essence of the law, and his birth and his life symbolize the break with the common law of things (every child is born of a father and a mother), just as what he will teach you is a deeper vision of the law.