The distant signals for Cove interlocking (the signals located just west of Ruggles station) now will ALWAYS show Approach Medium. This requires trains approaching Back Bay to slow down to 45MPH as soon as they pass these signals. ACSES (the Positive Train Control solution in place) will enforce the proper speeds on the curve itself (30mph for Amtrak). This should never happen again. Oh, and cheers for using the route I created in the video. The TSW version of this route I will make is going to warrant a remake of this video at some point.

Seeing no one was killed is truly the good news to see after this life event for everyone aboard. Someone was truly watching over them all that tragic day.

Engine sound is right on the money. I can almost smell the exhaust.

I blame Copeland but I mostly blame Amtrak for rehiring Copeland in 1983

@ashleybritton5335

Жыл бұрын

But it wasn’t his fault

@AmtrakCitiesSprinter64

11 ай бұрын

Blame both

@AmtrakCitiesSprinter64

11 ай бұрын

@@ashleybritton5335also, what do you mean it wasn’t his fault? Copeland caused an entire train crash and you said he is not responsible for the crash.

@ashleybritton5335

8 ай бұрын

It’s because he did nothing because it’s the brakeman’s fault for not breaking as they entered back bay

@colamations5066

5 ай бұрын

@@ashleybritton5335 because Copeland DID NOT properly supervised Abramson

it is good THAT there were no FATALITIES in this bad accident

My mom went into work that day on the train just before the commuter train that got hit. She'd assumed it wasn't a serious accident throughout the day (before social media, digital news, etc.), so when she was coming home and they told her her Providence train was being rerouted over the Fairmount Line, she asked the conductor why they were doing this inconvenient rerouting. He simply responded with "we're lucky no one was killed." It's a good thing she wasn't on that earlier train, or I may not be typing this right now.

@penncentral6706

5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting! Glad she’s okay and thanks for sharing your perspective.

@BulletTrainProductions

5 жыл бұрын

Facts man glad to hear this

@xaviervargas4641

5 жыл бұрын

Providence train, you say? We might live near each other. You live in like South Massachusetts?

@nebulouspranks

5 жыл бұрын

Omg my mom was on the mbta

@milestone_achiever4634

5 жыл бұрын

Deep. Very deep. Makes you think for a while.

I just happened upon this video. Very interesting and well put together. At the time of this accident I worked for the engineering firm that did the station and tunnel. Several of us were in the tunnel the evening following the accident to assist the responders, as we were very familiar with the tunnel. The destruction was amazing, even more so that no one was killed. I have some photos that I took that night, and from time to time I look at them as a reminder of the role of luck in life.

This is just like the Allec Joshua Ibay of train disasters...

@K-Riz314

3 жыл бұрын

Lol spot on 👍

I'm not saying you're wrong about the consist for #66, but I was a Washington-based LSA in that era, and worked that train as a cafe LSA about a year before that accident, and in that era that train always had an Amfleet I coach-cafe, and carried a Heritage 10-6 Sleeper for Boston on the rear. Now because of the holiday season, it is possible that a regular food service car was not available, and it's always possible the sleeper was bad ordered at the last minute and blanked for the trip. This is about the time that the FDA came down hard on Amtrak over it's rodent and vermin problems with a consent decree and started shopping infested cars right and left for several months. But the consist you describe would have been very unusual for the old "Fright Owl".

@bitrexgm

4 жыл бұрын

I have a lot of fond memories of taking the Night Owl from Boston to Washington to visit my grandmother as a boy in the mid 1980s. My mother was divorced and single at the time but even the double-bedroom sleeping car accommodations in the 10-6 were pretty cheap then, I recall you sometimes got a basket of nice snacks too that I'd dig into while Mom got wicked ripped on nips of Irish Mist (lol!) The 10-6 sleeper cars were pretty comfortable as I remember and quite an experience for that little kid, now a man just old enough to have actually experienced a bit of a different era. Incidentally the last time I recall riding in a Heritage coach on the Night Owl was around 1998 I believe, I recall thinking it was unusual to see on that train.

its very lucky cuz all passengers survived!

So Copeland Intentionally passed a signal at Danger gaurding an open drawbridge, in fact HE HAD A POOR PERFORMANCE RECORD. The MBTA Engineer was unlucky, there was nothing he could’ve done.

Boy, it sure takes a long time for the sun to come up in that area.

@wolfythewolf4457

5 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too...

@rapman5363

5 жыл бұрын

The crash happened underground in a tunnel heading into Back Bay Station. It was light outside the station.

That was blessing nobody was killed in the train crash thanks God amen

The fact nobody died in this wreck is nothing short of a miracle

@The_SEWI_Railfanner

6 жыл бұрын

metraking192 was this really 1990

@shanemyoutubeshit

5 жыл бұрын

metraking192 the fact that the Amtrak train crashed into the MBTA locomotive, and not directly the cars, is what caused the miracle. Had the Amtrak train hit the cats directly, the numbers of injuries and fatalities would rise greatly.

@ThePaulv12

5 жыл бұрын

The fact i didn't reach through my phone screen and strangle the video author for not leaving up the text long enough is a miracle.

@ThePaulv12

5 жыл бұрын

@Joshua ErvinI ask how can a figment of your imagination change anything?

@dakkarnemo1094

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThePaulv12 And how can insulting someone improve the situation?

R.I.P Amtrak 272, 366 and MBTA 1073.

@elsienovesteras4302

4 жыл бұрын

?!

@blue9multimediagroup

3 жыл бұрын

@@elsienovesteras4302 those are the locomotives involved

When this happened, I've been 7 months old. It's always great to hear nobody died in a crash like this.

Good Lord almighty. That's just asking for trouble. A engineer that was rehired. Too fast through a corridor... I'm shocked no one died.

@skeleguns10oooooo10

2 жыл бұрын

Besides the engineer of the commuter couldn’t believe that Amtrak engineer was too fast.

Suggest anyone who has seen this video read the entire original NTSB report (RAR-92-01) which placed blame for the wreck on the student engineer alone and the rare reconsideration report that was released later after Abramson contested the conclusion of the original report. The follow-up report cleared him and placed blame on Copeland and the NRPC. When you read the two reports in conjunction, you will find that there are some factual differences between the fact pattern presented there and the interpretation of the accident in the video.

@whorton4

4 жыл бұрын

The report is here: www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/RAR9201.pdf According to the report there were 2 serious injuries on 66. It is reasonable to assume who that was. I think it is fair to say, Copeland was spanked and sent to bed without supper.

Why don’t you have 1 million subscribers!? This was fricken amazing!

@penncentral6706

5 жыл бұрын

Lol I wish tbh. I beleive it's how KZread promotes their content uploaded by promoting the less skilled creators.

Bad year for Amtrak. The EB CZ wrecked in Batavia, Iowa that April, too. I was on it!

You make a good series!

That was really cool video, i would've started the video in New York just to make it longer, LOL. Plus, your showing Amfleet IIs they weren't used on the Night Owl or North of New York. Amfleet II's were used New York Southbound. Funny thing, with me growing up in RI I graduated High School in 1990 and i was a serious Amtrak fan and never heard about this accident. I went to Southern Connecticut State at the time and frequently took Amtrak from New Haven back to RI. 830AM was too early for me i don't think i was on this one.

this music is similiar music from radio non stop pop in GTA v

Great visuals. Thanks

I can't believe a track speed of 108mph is allowed, in that busy area. They should have had warning lights, to warn, far enough away, to either slow or stop, then creep to the station. As soon as I saw the 108mph, I knew something bad was going to happen, without reading the title of this video.

@bitrexgm

4 жыл бұрын

108 mph is an insane speed for passing through Ruggles!

Great video, I can't believe anyone survived, but that music felt like 1992 and the girl from CBS music. :)

I'm no expert by any means, but I'm willing to bet that the fact that they were in a tunnel played a part in no one dying. The curve and walls surrounding them likely helped contain the locomotive's movement while reducing the speed at impact, instead of the train flying off the rails and crashing into something as it could have done out in the open, as was the case in the Eschede disaster. And while the emergency brakes didn't slow the Night Owl enough to avoid the collision and get through the curve unscathed, it at least reduced the speed at the point of impact. Don't take my word for it though. Copeland made a wise decision in the end when he hit the emergency brake. They were right to fire him and Abramson, but his actions likely mitigated the damage and saved a lot of people that would have died had the train been traveling at full speed. This could have been far worse than it was.

@Bugm-kn9sv

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with ur theory but I just think Bostonians are one of the hardest people to kill that isn’t a Direct hit to them

@F4ncySu1tan

3 жыл бұрын

You are somewhat right, excuse the late reply BTW. However, I still believe the sole reason of no fatalities was where the Amtrak hit. Not only did it not hit any cars, it hit the rear locomotive which was not where the operator was. Had it hit the cars, those 453 injured people would've likely been dead. Being in a tunnel like that is both a blessing and a curse. For example, the Malbone Street Wreck in NYC. I believe that if the Amtrak derailed into the tunnel wall, not the MBTA, the tunnel may have caved in.

@silentsteph2689

2 жыл бұрын

If you’ve seen that curve in real life you’d be amazed it wasn’t worse .. ( Bostonian Speaking on that tunnel .. )

@Shinyarc

Жыл бұрын

Also the modern cars and their sturdy construction prevented death as well. A similar crash happened in the 1910’s near Coney Island in the subway, and it killed dozens because the wood cars basically exploded

Congrats to 10K views! Look like people are loving this video than I thought.

@feitraspace4801

5 жыл бұрын

its very neat and straight forward and great quality lots

Tell you what, I found this video while watching air disaster videos in FS2004. Now that I see other simulators I am in love with the idea of replicating disasters and such, but not in a sadist way. Anyways, the video is fine, I subscribed as well, hope your channel can succeed. :D

Fired twice by same employer.

The F40PH’s worst day

@NAME-uq7hv

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickhill934 yep

The commuter rail has never had doors in the middle of the coaches. It would be nice but that's a long ways away, if ever!

This is probably the worst non-fatal railroad accident in American History. I’m surprised Thunderbolt didn’t cover this crash already.

I have taken Boston's rail system before......took the Haverhill line (Boston to Lawrence)

To me feels like a parody from Allec Joshua's flight disasters

Really good documentary I loved it

the f40s in train simulator really sound like a plane

What is the music here? Tried going through the description, but can't find it that way. Thank you.

"NO FATALITIES!". I'm calling total bs on this deceptive report.

It's a miracle.

There were no overhead electric lines in Boston in 1990.

@penncentral6706

5 жыл бұрын

I'm aware, the route used was set in the modern era. (Not by me of course)

I worked with both of these guys, a real shame. Willis had a lot of hard luck in his career.....

@robertgift

5 жыл бұрын

Did Willis not make his own "hard luck"? Did he not knowhat was ahead and to begin braking earlier? Or did he lose awareness of where the train was? So glad that no one was killed. This easily could have been multiple fatalities. What is wrong with Copeland? Trying to better arrival times? How can you misseveral red signals and almost drop into water at a draw bridge but for an automatic derailer? My great uncle often tried to beatimes, but never athe risk of derailment.

@K-Riz314

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertgift Absolutely! Copeland was a dangerously incompetent prick who NEVER should have been at the controls of a train again after his first termination. The person(s) responsible for his rehire were just as criminally negligent as him, really. I hope heads rolled in a big way on this.

@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975

2 жыл бұрын

I worked 12 years with the railway. They allow some of the most worthless people to hang on and keep working. I am not surprised he was rehired. Nothing on the railway is logical.

Most awesome vid!!!!!

What’s bugging me is why would they hire dude back after being fired

@junkiexl86

5 жыл бұрын

He was re-hired yet again in 97 lol

@b43xoit

4 жыл бұрын

And especially then letting him supervise someone else.

@Cubbie410

4 жыл бұрын

B. Xoit right!!!!

@pashon4percushon

3 жыл бұрын

@@junkiexl86 your joking

@pashon4percushon

3 жыл бұрын

needed experience, happens at every job. easier to hire someone back than train a greeny. back then engineers were hard to come by especially in New England. Nowadays it seems its easier to be an engineer especially throughout the country. I remember Brandon Bostian collecting my ticket coming back from New York in 2011 because he was unique looking and i was a rare Amtrak day trip.

I knew Rick Abramson.

@davidjames8613

5 жыл бұрын

@Larry Brennan u mean Willis Copeland

@davidjames8613

5 жыл бұрын

@SHERMAN YOUNG Willis Copeland was the senior engineer when he was supervising an apprentice engineer and now he's banned from operating New York Trains

@larrybrennan1463

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidjames8613 Nope. Abramson.

I subbed.

Did you use gmod for the simulation if you did then CAN I PLEASE HAVE TH LINK FOR THE ADDON THE TRAIN LOOKES SO REAL! OwO

@mbkeeler

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my God, you're literally such an idiot

@NAME-uq7hv

2 жыл бұрын

It's train simulator 2017 T_T

So I can see how much it would be for me

What music is that at the final?

@GodfatherDaeDae9987

4 жыл бұрын

I was gonna ask the same question

Wish you'd shown the accurate consist of the train.

Its been about 28 years since this crash.

5:45 What’s this Music 🎵

Good recreation. What was the name of the music at the end?

@mgk2600

2 жыл бұрын

I'd like to know too...and what the voices are saying.

Well done video! Thank you. What is wrong with Copeland??

@AJsBusVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Robert Gift Copeland was fired twice by Amtrak, and, to add insult to injury, he was banned from operating in Metro-North territory

This is why you should never speed in a tunnel

How did no one die? Holy cow!

Speed Train Amtrak Crash MBTA

Luckily no one was killed, but Mr. Amtrak was very cross.

I love your video

Was is this really 1990 when the wreck happened

@penncentral6706

6 жыл бұрын

Yes

sand patch grade csx river line subdivision and northeast corridor

Nice shoreliner cab car and

@anhkietduongdo

5 жыл бұрын

and?

He got banned from Metro-North :(

the cause of the accident was $14 million not $12 million

You know all about trains

Episode 2 speed in downtown

The opening scene shows a fellow on the platform using what looks like a cell phone. Not likely in 1990. Otherwise, well done.

@rossbryan6102

4 жыл бұрын

Dunc M PROBABLY REPRESENTS AN RR WALKY TALKY 2 WAY RADIO! THEY WERE BECOMING A SMALLRE SIZE THOSE DAYS!

@roadweary5252

4 жыл бұрын

The simulation software isn’t from 1990. It’s a minor detail considering all he’s doing is reconstructing the accident.

Where were the houses at 2:07 located?

@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975

3 жыл бұрын

Hyde park. We used to throw rocks at the trains from there as kids.

Wait 1071 was scrapped, i think it was only the Amtrak Locomotive

@superbaddy4

5 жыл бұрын

It wasn't 1071, it was 1073. And yes, it was a total goner. It took the full force of the Amtrak slamming into it and was ripped into about 3 segments and was shoved through 4 support columns. From the pictures, it looked like just a pile of twisted metal. You couldn't even tell it was an engine. It was scrapped on site.

What program is this?

@junkiexl86

5 жыл бұрын

Train Simulator 2017 running on what appears to be a low end laptop.

inspiration from alec joshua bay ? on the air disaster videos

@penncentral6706

5 жыл бұрын

Yert

@muhammadfadhiil3430

5 жыл бұрын

@@penncentral6706 is that a yes

@penncentral6706

5 жыл бұрын

Yea

when TS2017 had to ruin the video by slapping electric on the top of the rails

Luckily No One was Hurt...

😞I like mta /amtrak

Sorry if it's listed somewhere but what software is this? MSTS with mods?

@MSRTA_Productions

5 жыл бұрын

Railworks

What music is that?

@penncentral6706

5 жыл бұрын

Loverboy-13855 by Tear Ceremony

@backbayproductions9508

5 жыл бұрын

@@penncentral6706 Is the song copyrighted? Because I wanna use it in a video. Btw, I can't find the original video of the song, was it on soundcloud or something?

@penncentral6706

5 жыл бұрын

It is but just can’t make money off of it so you’re fine. If your channel is under 1000 subs as per the new stupid KZread policy then you should be fine

@mgk2600

3 жыл бұрын

i cant seem to find that title anywhere

is black bay a subway?

@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975

3 жыл бұрын

Subway and commuter rail.. slamtrack stops there too.

3:41 - That's 1001 not 1073.

@penncentral6706

6 жыл бұрын

I know. I couldn't change the numbers as it was part of the reskin.

@mmandmcb14

4 жыл бұрын

@@penncentral6706 1001 is playing the role of 1073.

Yep i know that little einstein in 2006 of gustavtime

Did the MBTA cab car get destroyed? Please tell me

@penncentral6706

6 жыл бұрын

No it wasn’t as it was up front.

Um....I’m pretty sure that both trains were on the same track. They made contact engine to engine and smashed through Dartmouth Street above.

What's the name of this game

@penncentral6706

5 жыл бұрын

If you read the title but it's Train Simulator 2019

@Aktion.808

5 жыл бұрын

@@penncentral6706 sorry brother

If it is possible to polish radium in railway track then many accidents can be prevent.

@blue9multimediagroup

3 жыл бұрын

What?

Did Copeland stay fired this time?

@penncentral6706

5 жыл бұрын

Yea of course after causing a big crash

@junkiexl86

5 жыл бұрын

He was re-hired yet again in 1997

Derailment

This crash is so old

Number of MBTA cabcar?

@penncentral6706

6 жыл бұрын

1614

@superbaddy4

4 жыл бұрын

There were actually two Cab Cars on the consist. 1614 was of course the leader, and 1525 was running as a coach right behind it. 1614 is still around today, although it has long since been deactivated and can be used only as a coach. Sadly, 1525 was scrapped for parts a while ago.

another fantastic job by the incompetent, their bosses should have been fired too

Yep Amtrak fire those guys they could have killed innocent people but there was a lot of injuries and no lives lost

There should be 2 sleeper cars.

Cabcars

Apply emergency brakes dude

Can I Borrows some clips from his videos

@penncentral6706

5 жыл бұрын

Sure as long as you give credit. Sorry for the delay

@RailfanKTrainProductions

4 жыл бұрын

PennCentral670 don’t worry 😉

Where are Copeland and Abramson malpracticing today? So lucky thathey did not kill anyone.

8:20am in the morning shouldn't they be more concerned as to where the sun may have disappeared to? I know it would be most on my mind if it maybe end of the world Ahahahahahahaahah!

@rapman5363

5 жыл бұрын

The crash happened in an underground tunnel heading into Back Bay Station. It was light outside.

@jenbill

5 жыл бұрын

Check the beginning of video train #66 leaves Westwood Massachusetts 8:14 am route 128 station clearly video showing night sky also night sky before entering tunnel at 8:20 am train #906 leaves Ruggles station in the dark once entering tunnel it gets darker but doesn't change fact video has night sky entire time.

Double Crash but why does the train crash on 1 another train. Not like the ro-scale train sim on Roblox. Gosh they are different.

@blue9multimediagroup

3 жыл бұрын

This isn't Roblox. This is a real crash reenactment

"Diving for the pope?"

& they want more people to use public transit...

What is the awesome music at the end? Artist?

@mgk2600

5 жыл бұрын

It's kind of eerie listening to it, especially with the voices.

What app is that?

@penncentral6706

5 жыл бұрын

Read the title