Truth be told. I bought the launch edition about 3 years ago. I got it for msrp. So i called last week and my dealer got back to me. They said 100k over. I have it in text.I was waiting to get last. After having 4 raptors in the past i got my hands on a Raptor R . It will hold its value better. Also it handles better in all ways to me.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Wow man. 100k markup is insane. Your not the first guy that has said that about the TRX. I’ve heard from a few that they were disappointed with how the TRX handled offroad. They waited for the aftermarket to catch up, and it has not happened yet. So they got out and either went back to a gen2 or went for the Gen3.

@greenrush4313

10 ай бұрын

Look i have had all of them and its TRUE. Im not gonna say im a ford fan but i have to be real here. The raptor are all around better , especially the raptor r.@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

@Mursedave

10 ай бұрын

Got my TRX for MSRP, custom ordered.

I got my low mileage 21 TRX for 72K and also got rid of my problematic Gen 2 Raptor in the process. As for me, I couldn’t care less about off-roading my TRX but to each his own. I still love your off-road videos and vlogs though. Keep up the great content.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

6 ай бұрын

Thanks man. You should try and offroad it though. It would surprise you what that truck can do. And it’s a ton of fun. But I get it too. Not everyone wants to risk their truck. Sometimes you just want to enjoy it and keep it pristine. I have that same mindset with my e39 M5.

You could not pay me to get a TRX! No thanks!

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

🤣🤣

The MSRP for my 2022 TRX is 97k fully loaded except for the Sun Roof. I paid 81k searching for a dealership offering 10% off the MSRP at the time I ordered and price protected against the rise in MSRP from 92k to the 97k. I am very happy that I got lucky to pay what I did for mine. I cant believe manufacturers, dealerships as well as customers paying these absurd prices.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

You definitely got lucky man. With the $6k bump in 2023 and now a 13k bump for a final edition, the price of a TRX went sky high. And that don’t account for dealer markups.

Loving these shorter format videos Helio, keep em coming! 👍🏻💯👏🏼

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Thanks man. Glad your liking them. They are a little easier to produce and edit so I will definitely be doing more as we get more truck or offroad type news come out

Buy an used Ram 1500. $35.000-40.000 Buy a supercharger kit $5000-$9000 Buy a bolt on mid travel suspension. $10.000-$20.000

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Is there a mid travel kit for the RAM? I honestly have not searched yet to see if anyone makes it. If there was Baja kits or dirt king would have one.

@BlueNose49

10 ай бұрын

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad Dirt King has one

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Ok, I looked it up and their race kit is impressive. 17 in of travel up front and both shocks are inboard of the arms so it’s a lot like the HM race kits. Will definitely add some capability and track much better. But their “long travel kit” is a total joke. The stock TRX has better travel number stock and comes with a factory warranty. And it’s almost the same cost as the race kit. Yeah it’s cheaper overall than a TRX, but not worth it IMO. Just get the race kit and go wild

2023 is the best option to buy now if you want RAM TRX because it’s the same technology with 2024 but it’s cheaper about 10k.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

If you have to have new yes. But a used 2021-2022 is your best option. Same exact truck

The 2025 TRX will have Hurricane engine turbocharged like the Ecoboost.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Yep, we talk about it in the video. But early reviews of the engine in the wagoneer were not kind. I need to drive one myself to really have an opinion on that engine

I am currently trying to buy one..Its crazy. Some have taken off 5k, but then add bull crap that you don't want.Its really nuts

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

8 ай бұрын

Totally agree. Dealer scams are rampant. But it’s also coming back to bite them. Ram did some of the worst markups and now the whole Stellantis brands are having a hard time selling any of their regular cars. People are tired of paying too much for these cars and the greedy dealers.

@EagleDRZ

8 ай бұрын

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad yea but here in Ohio, they are not budging anymore.Ive walked out of 3 dealers so far.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

8 ай бұрын

Yeah. It like that everywhere right now. Dealers are not budging from 30k makeups on Raptors Rs. And that’s with a dealer full of inventory and very few customers buying. I have a dealer near me with 2 Raptor Rs both used both willing for 6 months and they will not budge on the price. Makes no sense because values are taking a nose dive.

When I ordered my 22 back in Sept 2022 my base MSRP was 72,390. When I received the truck in April 2023 it 76,780. Thankfully I got price locked at 72.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Your one of the few lucky ones. Most dealers just increased the cost to those that ordered.

At this point I’m buying used if I ever get a TRX and you know I’m a ram guy buuuuuut even I have to say I’m starting to lean towards buying the raptor r……… used lol 5 years from now.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

You’ll come to the dark side sure enough🤣. All it takes is one ride in a Raptor and your hooked. Next time you back in the area you should be my co pilot and see what a real truck can do

Damn that’s a lot money for this truck

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Too much. MSRP was already too much

Nice video, short and sweet but at the same time you have covered all the points. I think you should do a video on ryan gaumer raptor which is on sale and talk about the modification which is been done on the vehicle

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

That’s an impressive raptor. I’ve only seen it once. I need to get a closer look to do a deep dive man. Trucks in Reno so not sure that’s possible. Would love to though. It’s a killer build

@bharathbhushansirige9228

10 ай бұрын

That will be a killer video with your expert knowledge. If that happens @@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

Hellcats overall are selling over msrp doesn't matter on the platform its in. When it comes out with a hybrid twin turbo I6, no one will want them, so might aswell pad the market when you can. But stellantus raised the prices across the board when they aquired FCA, it completely ruined rams market share in the segment, Let alone just the TRX

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I read a lot about the sales slump they saw at the beginning of 2023 when all other manufacturers were getting back to normal. But Stellantis brought a lot of instability to the future of RaM and with the current platform already aging, you had a lot of buyers looking elsewhere. For me the Ram trucks were not even on my radar till the TRX because of last experience with RAM. And I agree in the I6, drag car based on it came out last week and it was a huge disappointment on the track.

@fazedumb1982

10 ай бұрын

I got mine at sticker and 4% discount off the msrp so the deals are out there u just need to look

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Yeah for sure. But 2024 models are going to see the markups come back strong again

I always felt that the trx is a great truck for the street but would not out do a raptor on the dirt. And honestly I think a gen1 MIGHT give the trx a run for it’s money on the dirt but I’m probably wrong

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Your not wrong. Even with the heavy 6.2, I think the Gen1 would be on par. But it’s hard to fine a bone stock gen1 these days that is not all clapped out to compare

@greenrush4313

10 ай бұрын

Your not wrong at all.

@1st_Gen_Life

10 ай бұрын

I have a bone stock gen1 that I’m thinking of getting out in the dirt next year and I’m in socal

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Why wait till next year? Raptors are very capable stock offroad. I’m fact the stock trucks have the least issues. Get out there now. Why wait.

on point

Chevy owners be like: mY zR2mIlioN w/elranchooo suspension can whoop yo butt 😂

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

I think it sucks. They don’t have any suspect you upgrade other King I would just buy the expensive I want the shark upgrade. I want a bigger shark is trying to usage.

TRX Final Edition price is about right compared to Raptor R price RAM taking advantage of Ford tactics and Regular Level two TRX is about 111K MSRP at about same MSRP of Raptor R.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Too much over a regular TRX for what you get.

So i traded in my TRX last week on the Raptor R. There was no way i was going to pay 100 k over for the last trx.NONE!!! of these trucks will keep going up in price. The Raptor R is one bad mabajamba tho to me compared to my old trx. Both great trucks and i am lucky i got my hands on the raptor r.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

That’s great feedback man. Very few have experience behind the wheel of both. Would love to hear your insights on the differences between the 2.

@greenrush4313

10 ай бұрын

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad While both are great trucks , one will always be are favorite. Mine is hands down the Raptor r. It just feels right.The handling on and off road. Not super loud but you know and others know when you step on it is a V8.The trx whine is fine but for over all performance the Raptor R is best.I really do alot of offroading . I can also say with all 12 plus jeeps i have had our bronco raptor hands down performs better then even the 392. Check out my videos of cj fat truck theres a few of them.My fat truck is also totaly amphoibouis and no jeep trx or raptor will go where it can.

Id buy a final edition TRX just so i could resell it to the highest bidder and make money on it lol

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

I doubt anyone is getting a final edition at MRSP. Already hearing dealers asking for agreement to a $100k markup just to place an order.

@raulgallardo5140

10 ай бұрын

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad yup! I say that assuming id get one at sticker which i know won’t happen lol

I say buy a low mileage Gen1! It has limited tech that will fail and also has a six speed transmission that isn’t notorious for weird clunky shifts like the Gen 3 Raptor.

@Mursedave

10 ай бұрын

Limited tech that will NOT fail*

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Best options BY far. 🙏 But biggest problem with the gen1 transmission is cooling. They tend to overheat with spirited driving. The cooling lines are known to fail. But both are easy fixes with plenty of options out there.

GET A RAPTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Trust me

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

🤣🤣👍👍

@Mursedave

10 ай бұрын

The gen3 looks and feels so dang cheap.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

I would have to agree. The interior of the TRX feels nicer. BUT you don’t get a Raptor for the interior. You get it for the capability.

@Mursedave

10 ай бұрын

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad most people get them for the status or to have a nice truck. Let’s be honest. How many people actually Baja their trucks. A very small percentage of people that own Raptors or TRX’s live anywhere near to where they can truly max out their trucks. Most people just like driving a nice vehicle that is comfy, fast, and probably looks appealing to them. And let’s not forget about sound. No one likes gay ecoboosts 😂

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, there is a lot of that status symbol BS for sure. But you would be surprised how many raptor owners actually do hit the trails man.

Im in the market for a Raptor... Not a 100 % whether a G1 or G3. Id of looked into a TRX if I didnt use RAMs with 6.2s for worktrucks.... Both are absolutely garbage and Id never even considering any RAM to buy with my paychecka, let alone a TRX for almost 100k... Theres a reason why they say RAMs make great engine swap crates for their Hemis, because you can roll them around.

I'll just keep buying these trucks second hand, let some other poor sucker take the depreciation hit. Owned my last truck, Ram Rebel, for 5 years and sold it for only 7k less than I paid 5 years ago. 99% of the depreciation had already happened before bought the truck. Why be the one that takes the loss?

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

That’s a good way to get these trucks. I will never pay markup so if I want an R or a TRX, I will be getting them used

I think it’s hilarious how ram “introduces” something new when it’s really just different badging and a lot number they made up to have an excuse to say they somehow did something different lol 😂

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Amen!! It’s just color changes that come with a $30k premium. (Or $13k over a fully loaded TRX)

The best kit aftermarket for the Trx is Kibbetech they replace the rear arms, upper and lower A arms in the front and go to king shocks. 😁

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ your still at stock travel though. We talked about this in the video. For the price you pay ($19k) it’s not worth it because your only bringing the truck up to Gen3 raptor capability. Just shy actually. Upgraded arms that maintain stock travel does not improve performance. Shocks size going up can with the right tune. But again your at the stock suspension travel. And the Gen3 raptor has more suspension travel from the factory. A ecoboost Gen3 will still perform better offroad than an upgraded TRX with the Kibbitech kit.

It’s actually easier to get a TRX, than a Raptor R, that’s where Ford messed up. A lot of people who didn’t want to put up with Fords drama, went the easier route, and Ford lost a lot of money and customers, why make your life harder, the TRX is just as good, and has a higher top speed, and a better looking interior, better sound system, it’s an easy choice.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

None of that matters offroad 🤷‍♂️. Ecoboost raptors outperform the TRX offroad. TRX is a good street truck. The Raptor is a great off-roader. So you need to pick your poison. Plenty raptor Rs are available. Problem is markups. They are much, much higher on the R because of its capabilities. But I agree with you. The TRX looks better and has a better interior. The current raptor is ugly to me. But when you compare performance, specially offroad performance, the TRX is behind the curve and barely as capable as a Gen2 Raptor.

@kujonyanthawa594

10 ай бұрын

what "ford drama"? they havent lost any customers, guys that offroad the TRX, regret selling their raptors. its not as good of a offroad truck. period.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

There is a TON of Ford drama man. From markups, to poor dealer support, cam phaser, not supporting off-roaders after Covid. The list goes on and on man. Where you been?

@erikracz4162

10 ай бұрын

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I traded my Raptor for the TRX, I never really go off Road, it just wasn’t exciting having a V6, got tired of waiting for the Raptor R, only to find out the prices are ridiculous, no stock truck is worth 180K.

@erikracz4162

10 ай бұрын

@@kujonyanthawa594 who wants to pay 87K for a V6, that’s sounds terrible, and can’t do more than 107MPH? The TRX is way more fun than that! Most people don’t off road, what if some one challenges you to race, you gonna say you can’t? After paying all that money? Good luck, dude! 🤣

I’d like to see the guy that pays 180K for a Raptor R, and actually takes it off Road, what if you scratch it, or the tie rods break, I just blew Fords bullshit right out of the water! Ford says a lot of things that just don’t make any sense to any one! I’ve owned 4 different Raptors in the past, and I hated the V6, any real truck should have a V8, so it sounds like a real truck, and justifies the money spent on it.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

You are right, the yuppie that pays $180k for a raptor won’t offroad it. But a raptor is another animal and the TRX was not up to the same capabilities as a Gen3 raptor. It’s just on par with the ecoboost gen2. But your comment is funny to me. TRX will be a TTI6 in 2025. And shortly after GM will follow shortly after. V8s are dying man. I have a Gen1 with a 6.2 and while I love the torque in that thing, it’s the laziest V8 on the planet and the ecoboost was much peppier

@erikracz4162

10 ай бұрын

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad I had a 2012, and a 14’ Raptor, I know your engine. I saw your Gen. 1 at the dealership in Fairlawn, Ohio, 2 weeks before you bought it, as I had a service appointment on my 2020 Roush Raptor. I traded that in for the TRX, a lot of people don’t Realize, the TRX is similar to the Raptor in the off road segment, few people give it credit that it also has a racing side to it also, with performance pages and the timer, the flat bottom steering wheel, it’s like having a truck for both jobs, and because Ram was able to produce the amount of vehicles even through Covid, the price is not a ridiculous insult, like the way Ford treats its customers, I just feel like I should let folks know, Ford maybe not the leader they claim to be.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Once again I agree with you with the way ford treats their customers. I know first hand and been threatened by them for being too honest on this channel. That all being said, the only thing people talk about with the TRX is 1/4 mile times. Very few TRXs see the trails. Specially when compared with raptors. As an off-road truck it only has potential and it’s just on Par with the gen2 Raptor. But offroad the Gen3 is far superior by a lot. Yeah it’s an ugly truck with even more plastic. But the suspension and balance on the Gen3 outperforms the TRX and that’s a fact. Now, I know quite a few guys here on the west coast that beat up their trucks on the regular that got a TRX and after driving it a while on SoCal trails, they went back to a Raptor. Main complaints were lack of aftermarket offroad support AND the truck is not as stable or confidence enduring on the trails. I would love to run a TRX and had one on order. But stock she needs a lot of help to handle SoCal and Baja trails. And without decent aftermarket support and suspension upgrade options, it’s a platform that will always get left behind by the Raptor. I’m hoping the announcement of the TT-I6 will help get more shops into making parts for it to improve its offroad performance . But right now, it’s just guys that want to go fast.

@erikracz4162

10 ай бұрын

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad yeah, your an off roader, I’m not, but I like having an off road truck in the bad weather, like the snow and ice in winter. Plus, the good looks of it. Truthfully, out here in Ohio, I have yet to even see a Raptor R on the road, or even in a dealership lot, have not seen one yet. They made too few of them, and the dealers are trying to make all their profits on the few that they can get. You know, I would be interested in one, but not at that price point. People buy houses for that much money

I wouldn't even buy a regular raptor. None of them are worth the prices.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

🤣🤣 to each his own I guess. What do you offroad with?

@1FiftyOverland

10 ай бұрын

@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad 2015 f150 fx4

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Hmm, big difference between an FX4 and Raptor. What kind of off-roading do you do?

@kujonyanthawa594

10 ай бұрын

dude. hes a oVeRlAnDeR........ nuff said😆😆@@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

@kujonyanthawa594

10 ай бұрын

says the overlander. gtfo

Typical dodge/fiat or whateverthey are now. Who would have thought there would be more to an offroad truck than putting a big motor in it. They even had a truck to copy as well.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

Agreed it was a decent attempt but it was made obsolete as soon as the Gen3 came out. Gen3 raptor with the ecoboost could run circles around this truck offroad.

💖 "Promo SM"

Cj fat truck on you tube

the raptor r was in development well before the trx was announced.

@KeepItDirtyOffRoad

10 ай бұрын

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ seriously man. It’s very rare that manufacturers can keep new vehicle development a secret. Specially when trademark applications are public knowledge. And it takes at least 2 years to bring a product to market. Ford had no plans on a V8 raptor period. They only started to develop once they found out of the TRX was coming during its development BEFORE it was even announced. OTHERwise the R would have come out the same year as the regular raptor.