You have a right to protest but that doesn't give you a right to block, harass or interfere with people's daily business.

@somkeshav4143

29 күн бұрын

Isn’t the point of protesting to disrupt people’s daily lives so as to bring awareness to the issue itself?

@jacobhuff3748

29 күн бұрын

@@somkeshav4143 there's a difference between disrupting & interfering. Disruption is being in public without being an obstacle or hindrance to people's business. Interference is when you choose to stop them from doing anything. Disruption is fine but interference causes problems for everyone.

@somkeshav4143

29 күн бұрын

@@jacobhuff3748 that may be true, but that depends on how much it interferes. Someone blocking the roads or protesting at an airport for example causes some inconvenience, but at the end of the day, the issue may be so important that some inconvenience could shed light on the issue depending on how bad it is. I can always take the long road around or catch a different flight, but Palestinians in this context won’t be able to get over the inconvenience of moving elsewhere from their bombed location because Israel blocked travel from land, air, and sea and it’s been described as an open air prison.

@jacobhuff3748

29 күн бұрын

@@somkeshav4143 This isn't about the Palestinians in Gaza. This is about how some of the protestor are behaving. To be blunt some of the things that they're demanding is something the Universities can't do or affect. It's just them trying to get the University to echo their beliefs rather than allowing the University to be what it should be, a place of learning and development. I have sympathy for the Palestinians in Gaza since they're effectively hostages in a conflict between Israel & Hamas but the behavior displayed in some cases isn't helping or worse.

@somkeshav4143

29 күн бұрын

@@jacobhuff3748 so far I have seen some tent encampments and peaceful protests, I didn’t see anything violent until the police and military were called in by the university. But the demands are not hard to do, stop sending money to Israel and its weapons manufacturing. Divestment isn’t hard for a university to do and I think it’s completely what the protestors want from them especially given the fact it’s their money they’re sending overseas.

Stop the riots and not the protests.

@zufalllx

29 күн бұрын

Stop the riots, not the protests

Kudos to all the young people speaking out against the ongoing genocide!

There is a big difference between today's protests and the Veitnam protests of the sixties. That being we as a nation were prosecuting a war, today we are not prosecuting this war. The protesters should be protesting in front of Israeli embassies not hardcore protest at US college campuses.

Has ReasonTV already forgotten the non-aggression principle? There's a reason that the rights enumerated in the First Amendment are the right to free speech and the right to peaceably assemble, not a blanket right to protest however you see fit. The student occupiers of the universities are violating their fellow students' rights to go about their business and get their education.

@johnnyrocker7495

29 күн бұрын

What are you like on the genocide of over 34,000 Palestinians?

@Derna1804

29 күн бұрын

@@johnnyrocker7495 Why is it a genocide?

@ryansarkinian7196

29 күн бұрын

They're not interfering with any student's right to go to class. They are being suppressed because Bibi Netanyahu wants them to and has ordered the American government accordingly.

@johnnyrocker7495

29 күн бұрын

@@Derna1804 I'd tell you but clearly you're too dumb to understand.

@matthewjohnston1400

29 күн бұрын

Exactly right.

protesting is fine. peacefully!. rioting is not acceptable. reguardless of what it is.

@johnnyrocker7495

29 күн бұрын

Sometimes its not only @ccept@ble but m@ndatory.

@ryansarkinian7196

29 күн бұрын

Nope, no riots involved. The recent campus protests have been overwhelmingly peaceful.

@somkeshav4143

29 күн бұрын

There were no riots to begin with regardless in regard to the college protests thus far, but I don’t understand what people have against rioting. After all, that’s just the next step once peaceful protests fail anyways. “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK

This video is idiotic. Used to follow ReasonTV a lot but they need to touch grass

They should be allowed to protest but it should not interfere with people going about their business, nor should it intimidate or harass specific groups of people.

The whole situation seems impossibly difficulty. Why not organize a couple days on campus to debate and to discuss it all.

@Kye9842

Ай бұрын

that's usually what happens prior to the encampments- discussions with the universities to meet demands then setting up protests when they don't follow

@somkeshav4143

29 күн бұрын

They already tried that and the university wouldn’t listen so protesting makes sense when peaceful negotiations fail

Where’d they find this goof?

Its not constitutional to wreck property and disrupt day to day operations.

@BDnevernind

Ай бұрын

So you really think ALL of the protesters are engaged in that? If ever anyone commits bad acts at a protest the whole thing should be clamped down on? That's your stance? No matter who is protesting and what the issue is?

@BrentJ4Liberty

Ай бұрын

@texan190 I can think of a time where the right ALLEGEDLY wrecked property and disrupted day to day operations. I said allegedly, because I don’t totally agree with the allegations.

@Texan190

Ай бұрын

@@BDnevernind Doesn't matter, needs to be disbursed after shit hits the fan.

@Hedgehobbit

29 күн бұрын

@@BDnevernind So a protest is only violent is EVERY person at the protest is engaging in violence? The constitution only gives people the right to peaceably assemble. Not "mostly peaceably".

@BDnevernind

29 күн бұрын

@@Hedgehobbit You don't think rights apply to individuals? It's not incubant upon the state to only curtail the rights of people who actually violate a law? You really think this and would argue it if you liked the protesters and their cause? So any one agent provocateur could get any protest completely shut down?

The students don't understand the dynamics of the Palestinian and Israel problem. They need to realize that the world doesn't care about their protests. Watching these protests is like watching Nascar and waiting for the accidents.

@johnnyrocker7495

29 күн бұрын

The world does care though and millions support them. Love from the UK.

@tabinekoman

29 күн бұрын

Yet they have right to do so. Nobody care about someone sing, but they have right to sing.

@somkeshav4143

29 күн бұрын

I disagree, the college protests against the Vietnam War did bring the U.S. to pull out of Vietnam way back when, just because it doesn’t bring immediate results doesn’t mean it’s not working

@gwenstefanirockx

29 күн бұрын

@@somkeshav4143 the Vietnam War protests are not a comparison. That was a conflict the US was in. We are not fighting in this multi-thousand year conflict.

@somkeshav4143

29 күн бұрын

@@gwenstefanirockx The US not directly fighting in it, but the U.S. and its universities are funding the puppet state of Israel by sending them billions of dollars and equipment that could help regular Americans or other meaningful ventures like NASA or anything else that would be useful for Americans. Why should America fund Israel’s military and subsidize their universal healthcare system when Americans suffer?

The GOP has an opportunity which they’ll miss once again to be the party of personal freedom and limited government.

@davidanalyst671

Ай бұрын

the GOP has an opportunity to stand up against genocide, and they will fail

@Justin_Beaver564

29 күн бұрын

Reagan talked the talk but were they ever really the party of limited government? You have two massive weak parties that have virtually no control of their nominee process. It's the perfect recipe for chaos and tribalism.

@spocko2181

28 күн бұрын

You don’t have the right to keep people from attending class.

"Wait, 18 year-olds at the most privileged institution of higher learning on the other side of the Earth are really upset with us? Well maybe we should unconditionally surrender to the terrorists." -Everyone in Israel

Both sides suck.

Doesn't Columbia own the land that these protestors are camping on? Don't they have the right to say who can and can't use that land? It would be insane if the "right to peaceably assemble" included the right to trespass on private property whenever you want.

@ryansarkinian7196

29 күн бұрын

Does that mean the protests taking place in public universities are kosher, since they are public property?

He has everything to lose doing that , he needs that falling on Biden popularity

This is not a protest its a violent occupation

@johnnyrocker7495

29 күн бұрын

Kinda like 15rael's occupation of P@1estine then. (I see ZioTube is deleting comments again.)

@zufalllx

29 күн бұрын

The actions of the police don't count

@zufalllx

29 күн бұрын

Are you talking about Israel?

@somkeshav4143

29 күн бұрын

Sounds like you’re talking about Israel

@beachboysandrew

29 күн бұрын

Hey somke, you said above you were ok with occupations. Vile hypocrite :)

Protestors tried to save a grove of trees on UC Berkeley's campus for 3 years. The trees are all gone. There is a distinction to be made between protests and effective protests. BLM protests probably did more harm than good to their cause. It's harsh but it's true. So far the college protests have probably helped the visibility of the plight if Palestine some, but I doubt the colleges or the government are going to make significant changes directly because of the protests.

Ok

Not good form to find humor in a massacre or equate with promoting recognition but notoriety I'm sure would desire never happened. Kent State 1970, Columbus OH had erupted in riots that summer & conflict, everybody were or felt threatened, especially when troops responded, tanks treading over the street, curfew imposed, I was a youth then, & with two friends became witness to full-on riot along High Street, nearly immersed but had avoided by taking refuge on cellar steps of a building while our bikes were along sidewalk rails, our location along 9th Avenue was seemingly safe, calm, & south enough from the campus at that time while Lane Ave still considered center of tOSU, beside aware as invincible kids could understand when unfairly punished as parents impose a curfew & advised in school about situation, the impression provided serious extent & risk of circumstances about limited to Sesame Street & Johnny Quest, so after breaking out & biking around during a warm sunny early May, yet drinking soda pop in the shade still had some attention about noise noticed North from campus, then heard a roar, cracks & other sharp noise like explosions & gunfire, still affected by the tear gas, as we saw the rushing advance then a mass dispersal, through the tears & gas barely saw shoes & legs of masses of people running, was unsure whether running to or from, also crashing into our bikes during the melee, inhibited by the smoke, & near-blinded by the irritating gas. Later that week, I was red & flush from a sunburn incurred for that day's excursion & getting some cool air from my bedrrom windows as the tanks rolled over Summit Street. Treason, malfeasance, & other violations committed by conniving intrusive parastic NGOs, kleptocracy, complicit institutions, & systemic corruption indulge illegal alien invasion while chisel, heist, & impose soci-economic disparity, risk, harm, injure, & violate citizens, bias, discrimination, & racist-hate motivated crime, include human rights violations with atrocity happening in USA by outright evil amid Veteran Exploitation Industrial Complex.

Listening to anti-speech and pro-war libertarians never gets old.

lets go brandon!

"antisemitism" is just a slur.

@beachboysandrew

29 күн бұрын

Dumbest thing I’ve read all day

I have always said that while you have the right to protest in NYC, you don't have the right to protest in the middle of Times Square

Imagine if Vietnam protestors were called bigoted towards Americans because they didn’t approve of the Vietnam war. The antisemitism criticism is insane deflection.

@JackVz

29 күн бұрын

gods chosen

@somkeshav4143

29 күн бұрын

Surprisedly people talked shit about them even back then saying they were anti-American and this and that even though they were on the right side of history

As usual, Reason misses the mark. It's not about protected free speech. It's about the intimidation and the violence.

@johnnyrocker7495

29 күн бұрын

"intimidation and the violence"? Now you know how the Palestinians feel.... for 76 years!

@johnnyrocker7495

29 күн бұрын

intim1d@tion and the v1olence? Now you know how the P@1estin1@ns feel.

@ryansarkinian7196

29 күн бұрын

It is about free speech. Its about a foreign leader like Netanyahu ordering the US government to suppress the protests despite the First Amendment.

ReasonTV: Biden 2024...

@davidanalyst671

29 күн бұрын

Would trump be any better? The only thing trump is better at is tax cuts and border. Trump didn't fund his tax cuts, and they were'nt permanant, and trump didn't build the wall.... both parties are garbage.

Isn't saying, "Stop the protests!" practicing free sheech? Shouldn't we celebrate Trump as he practices free sheech, instead of attacking him!

@gmmakesmehurl

29 күн бұрын

nobody said he doesnt have the right to say it. Just means hes wrong and not respecting free speech. Come on. Think.

@johnnyrocker7495

29 күн бұрын

You sound confused. By all means, celebrate free speech. Celebrating Trump is however not a mandatory part of that. One thing does not equate to or beget the other.

@somkeshav4143

29 күн бұрын

Well being a former president and saying that is pretty egregious to say considering it’s possible he could get re-elected and he might try to diminish free speech given these protests. I still remember his actions at Lafayette Square, he will recreate that, but worse

@PersonWithFace

29 күн бұрын

Trump, as President, did a surprisingly great job of not violating civil liberties, while encouraging governors and states to do the same, which many ignored.

@somkeshav4143

29 күн бұрын

@@PersonWithFace no he didn’t, quite the opposite especially given his reaction to the BLM protests and the Lafayette Square protests.

I want the protest to keep going because they undermine AIPAC's influence

With all due respect, this is why libertarians and libertarian minded individuals has lost nearly every institution in this country. Libertarians will champion the rights of those they disagree with (a truly good faith position to hold) and in turn be silenced by those they were just championing. I'm sorry, you CANNOT play this game any more, I'm happy many of you are holding fast to your principles, but with each passing day I grow more and more weary of such a stance. The skyrocketing debt, draconian laws, anti-religious fervor, truly heinous ideology, and all the other evils (evil used deliberately in reference to the unconscionable policies which have been adopted) unleashed by the American left, are simply too great to justify allowing to be propagated on the basis of "moral principles". I mean no hate by this comment, but simply continuing down this path of defeatism for the sake of the maintenance of libertarian values is simply not a justifiable choice given the reality which has been made so plainly clear, at the minimum, in the last decade.

Wow, it's almost like Trump is already President.

@johnnyrocker7495

29 күн бұрын

I think you spelt Emperor wrong.

@WilliamSanderson-zh9dq

29 күн бұрын

Lol. The protests are right on time for the elections.🤦‍♂

@somkeshav4143

29 күн бұрын

@@WilliamSanderson-zh9dqtbf so was this war